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and "new day" continues right now. so the hearing the january 6th committee has been building up to tonight in primetime. i'm john berman, brianna is off, chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins is here. they really have been building up to this. >> we have a huge day ahead of us. people are waiting to see what are they going to say about that black hole of time of what happened on january 6th in the oval office. >> and they say they have new information. the focus is going to be the 187 minutes during which former president donald trump was at the white house and this mob of largely trump supporters storming the u.s. capitol. the committee will present a minute by minute account of what they call donald trump's dereliction of duty. what he did not do despite pleas from his aides, allies, his
family. you are going to hear that phrase dereliction of duty we expect quite a bit. >> tonight is also going to feature never before seen outtakes of this moment where former president donald trump reluctantly condemned what happened the day after the capitol attack. this video coming only after his efforts to overturn the election had failed and his staff members were warning him that members of his own cabinet were discussing invoking the 25th amendment to remove him from office. two white house aides sarah matthews and matthew pottinger who quit in the immediate aftermath of january 6th are both going to testify bubble blee in prime time. >> joining us now ellie honing. ellie, 187 minutes, this period from when donald trump told people to march to the capitol at the ellipse, between that moment and later on when he finally released the video. what do we know about that time? >> all focus on this crucial time frame.
our story today starts at 1:10 p.m. on january 6th when donald trump was finishing up his speech on the ellipse. donald trump made this famous statement, we might like hell and if you don't fight like hell you are not going to have a country anymore, we are going to walk down to the capitol. we know now thanks to the testimony of cassidy hutchinson that he knew that that crowd was armed. as to what happens next it is a bit of a black hole but there are some important things we do know. we do know that all manner of republican dignitaries were frantically texting mark meadows, the chief of staff, begging him to get donald trump to do everything. one example donald trump jr. the president's own son texted he's got to condemn this blank asap. also about one hour into this crucial 187-minute period donald trump sends this fateful tweet at 2:24 p.m. you're going to hear a lot of references to the 2:24 tweet, that is this tweet where donald trump verbally attacks mike pence.
we've seen the video of the crowd reading this tweet in realtime and breaking into chants of hang mike pence. finally the end of that 187-minute period is when donald trump finally releases this video calling on his supporters to go home. a little bit of a mixed message here. we love you, you're very special, but go home and go home in peace. so there is a lot we don't know. we do have a couple of fence posts, though. >> the witnesses we will hear from tonight to help fill in this gap. >> two live witnesses first of all sarah matthews, former deputy white house press secretary. she was in the white house on january 6th and, remember, she resigned that day and the main reason was that 2:24 tweet. sarah matthews testified in her deposition he was pouring gasoline on the fire by tweeting that. we also will hear live from matthew pottinger who was the deputy national security adviser at the time. he, too, was in the white house during the crucial times. he also resigned on january 6th. he said i read that tweet, again, the 2:24 tweet, and made a decision at that moment to
resign. also we will hear not live but we will see video of the white house counsel pat cipollone. remember, john, he testified for eight hours in front of the committee. we saw a couple snippets last hearing but that's only a minute or two. i think we will hear a lot from him. finally stephanie grisham who was working for the first lady at the time she told you, john berman on "new day" is a couple months ago about what she saw on january 6th. grisham said he, trump, was in the dining room gleefully watching tv, look at all these people fighting for me. hitting rewind, watching it again. >> pat cipollone there's a lot more we could be hearing from him tonight. what are the unknowns? >> there are certain known unknowns. remember, the white house call log, there is that seven-hour gap where we can't see who donald trump was calling. it will be interesting to see if the committee is able to piece that together through phone records from verizon and the like. video outtakes, this is the video of the next day, january 7th. we're going to see the earlier
cuts of this which could be revealing as to donald trump's state of mind. finally, we know we have missing secret service texts from january 5th and 6th, the explanations thus far about why they've been missing will be questionable we will say charitably. what did donald trump know about what was happening at the capitol and what did he do and not do? and just for perspective here are a few things that are shorter, less time than 187 minutes. "the godfather." "godfather ii" is longer but the original is shorter than that. the official world record for the marathon is about an hour shorter than that and a flight from philly to miami is also shorter than 187 minutes. so that's how much time donald trump had where he did not call off his followers. >> ellie, an interesting development from the u.s. senate, this bipartisan deal reached on a proposal to overhaul the electoral college, the electoral count act of 1887. why is this important and why is
it relevant to what's going on here at the hearings? >> this is the law that donald trump and his crooked lawyer john eastman who has taken the fifth and been searched tried to exploit to steal the election. the original act says that the vice president has two jobs, open and announce the votes, sounds straightforward, right? not according to trump and eastman. they argued that that meant mike pence could throw out votes if he doesn't like them. the new proposal would make entirely clear that the vice president has, quote, solely ministerial role and he cannot reject the votes. the plan was to gum up the works by having several members object. all that took is one representative and one senator. two could object to every state. the new proposal is one fifth, so exactly 20 senators and one fifth of the house, 87 house members. so it will be harder to do that. >> if i'm john eastman and i'm seeing the senate saying you have to change the language.
i'm saying it wasn't clear, that maybe i was right, that there was some room. >> that is a great legal argument and he may make that. >> thank you very much. >> it also shows where you want to overhaul that law. let's bring in former prosecutor rebecca roiphe, house judiciary special counsel nora mizen and rebecca. certainly a lot of anticipation about what this hearing is going to look like. we have two witnesses and they are people certainly matt pottinger very high profile, the former deputy national security adviser is quite a significant role. what does it say to you that they're coming forward and testifying publicly, norm? >> first it says that matthew had a crisis of conscience when he saw that tweet in the middle of an insurrection. we now know trump knew the mob was armed, he wanted to march
with them and trump targets his own vice president and we know that tweet was read on a megaphone to the crowd. that shows trump's murderous intent. pottinger reacted to that. the other thing it says to me, kaitlan, is pottinger was there, deputy national security adviser, very high ranking, he's going to have a lot of blockbuster testimony what was going on during this mysterious 187 minutes. >> and the committee is putting this hearing in primetime. before the cassidy hutchinson hearing this was really the one that they were building up to the most. why? why is this their finale at least for now? >> i think it makes complete sense that this is the prime time finale for now in part because we all witnessed it. we had witnessed it in real time and this is like behind the scenes. there is a lot of drama in that. learning what we didn't know while watching, having the literal outtakes for the speech
and all the outtakes for what was going on that whole time that we were watching the mob. >> that was a speech that he was reluctant to give according to his own staff. cassidy hutchinson testified that a lot of it had to do with talking about the 25th amendment. when he did eventually give the speech this is what part of the final product looked like. >> i would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack on the united states capitol. like all americans i am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem. >> how effective do you think it's going to be to have what people saw on january 7th versus what was actually happening behind the scenes in these outtakes. >> i think it's a great opportunity to highlight donald trump's character. there's been a lot of media coverage about who he is but then there is who he presents himself to be to his followers. and when you show the actions versus the impact, right, the fact that there was violence and that this was something that, you know, he was gleefully pouring that gasoline on, you
ask yourself is this the character of a president? a president is supposed to protect and defend the constitution and really donald trump protected and preserved himself in that moment. he preserved his own interest. i think that's really important for an audience that believes that donald trump is their protector, their defender, that he is somebody that advocates for them. when you see that he was willing to put them in harm's way for his own interest hopefully that highlights what a problem that is. >> it might be captivating, titillating to see these outtakes that no one has ever seen before but i am curious of the legal significance and i do understand this isn't just about the law. what's the legal significance of things he didn't say or a speech he didn't give? >> it's very important because the first part -- the first five hearings established these two crimes, that a federal judge in california found were likely as to trump. conspiracy to defraud the united
states and the obstruction of an official proceeding in congress. those then -- the second half of the hearings have pivoted to trump's intent, which you have to prove in any criminal prosecution. and these outtakes will show us his facial expressions, his gestures, what's going on in his mind. that's gold to trial lawyers to have that footage, so it goes to the intent that prosecutors are going to have to prove. >> and for what the committee is trying to prove is that he wanted the violence that happened that day, he was fine with it, not only did he not try to stop it he was fine with it. we were told at the time by sources on january 6th that he was borderline enthusiastic as he was watching what was happening on capitol hill. so i guess the point -- well, i know the point that the committee is trying to make is that he violated his oath of office. by using outtakes, by having this testimony is that going to be kind of what seals their argument today?
>> absolutely. i mean, i think one of the things that has been so well done about these hearings is showing the contrast between what he was told, what president trump was told, and how he reacted. because it goes to show he can't deny this whole notion i was just doing what i thought was lawful in terms of contesting a problematic election. increasingly we see that defense whittled away. now, of course, you know, if this ultimately were a criminal case it would look very different because we don't really have his side, however, they've done a very good job in terms of public presentation of shooting that and having that defense in part by doing just this, what did people tell him to do and what did he do in response? people in the outtakes might have been saying to him, look, you need to say this, you need to be more adamant. if he was refusing to do that, that's key and i do think really important both for what the january 6th committee is doing and ultimately if there were a
prosecution down the line for proof of his criminal intent. >> and i will be interested in these outtakes because cassidy hutchinson said that there were several lines that didn't make it in there about prosecuting the rioters or calling them violent. >> you have all convinced me that the outtakes will be really worth watching and potentially interesting with potential legal implications. now i really do want to see what they show. there may be two audiences here for the january 6th committee there's the american people, clearly all of us watching that's why they're putting it in primetime but they do seem to be focusing their arguments in a way that the justice department whether federal prosecutors or merrick garland can see and say, hey, this is a legal case we can or should be making. merrick garland has been pressed on this by people speaking out and by reporters speaking to him about where he is on the idea of potentially prosecuting a former president of the united states. listen to what he just said about this. >> no person is above the law in this country. nothing stops us -- >> even a former president.
>> i don't know how to -- maybe i will say that again. no person is above the law in this country. i can't say it any more clearly than that. >> almost as frustrated as i think we've seen merrick garland. what's going on here? >> well, you know, i will really fascinated in public opinion and the shift. it felt like there was so much coverage of january 6th that the public almost checked out, they felt like well, nothing is going to happen, right, what can we prove? and then we get to this point where the hearings build this case that this wasn't spontaneous, that there was a lot more planning to it and i think that hopefully that points to something being able to be done and poll results showing how independents have even shifted watching these hearings might indicate that we have a little bit more to be hopeful about. merrick garland is being careful about the way he responds because there might be something there. >> and it's working in the state prosecution that is moving forward, it seems, on the part of da fani willis in georgia.
we can't only talk about mpg. da willis has issued 16 target letters to the phoney electors who signed that fraudulent certificate that donald trump won and his electors. those target letters you start -- rebecca knows this well -- you start low down the food chain, you try to flip some of those individuals to work your way up. who is at the top of that pyramid? donald trump. >> who is still calling election officials in other states like wisconsin trying to get them to overturn the election. thank you all so much for being here. natasha, norm, rebecca, you guys have been so helpful. thank you for breaking this all down for us. >> thanks. >> thank you. tonight at 7:00 eastern this is when you can watch the live coverage, special coverage here on cnn of the primetime hearing as the january 6 committee is going to turn to his conduct in office during the capitol attack and what was or was not happening. so just hours from now the steve bannon trial. the defense will present its
case. the jury for all we know could begin deliberations as soon as this afternoon. this is for the contempt of congress trial the former trump adviser steve bannon faces, the prosecution has now rested its case. let's get straight to cnn political correspondent sara murray for the details on what has happened and what we're expecting today, sara. >> sure, john. the prosecution laid out its case and a pretty damning paper trial for steve bannon. yesterday they pointed out in letters from the committee to bannon they said if you don't comply you may get a criminal referral. at no point did bannon's team ask for the subpoena deadline to be extended. the one thing bannon had going for him yesterday, he doesn't have a lot of defenses but the judge did allow in recent letters between bannon's lawyers, bennie thompson and that letter from trump about the sort of hail mary offer to testify. his lawyers are trying to make the case that, look, the subpoena was not a hard and fast deadline, we are still in
negotiations and the house still wants information from bannon. the other thing that the defense tried to do on bannon's behalf was to argue that the prosecutors in this case, the witnesses in this case may have some kind of political bias. they pointed out one of the prosecutors in the case and the house staffer who was a witness yesterday were in the same book club. it turns out neither of the women have participated in that book club for over a year so we will see how the jury takes that. and of course this could go to the jury as soon as today. we don't have a sense of what kind of defense they will put on yet. >> this is moving very quickly. sara murray, thank you very much. extreme heat side lining pearl jam front man eddie vedder. why the band was forced to cancel a concert. also what cnn learned when we asked all 50 republican senators where they stand on legislation to protect same-sex marriage. and the biden administration is working on ways to protect the abortion rights of pregnant
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this morning potentially deadly weather affecting 275 million americans with temperatures of 90 degrees and above for the next several days. we're seeing record highs all over the country. 111 degrees in lauten, oklahoma, 110 degrees in abilene, texas, 103 in springfield, missouri, and albany, new york, tied its 1991 record at 97 degrees. in pennsylvania officials are asking elderly residents to take caution. the pittsburgh zoo said they are giving their animals frozen treats and access to air conditioning. in norfolk, virginia, one store clerk tells cnn affiliate wtkr he has sold 100 fans in the last week. cities including new york and boston are bracing for their highest temperatures over the weekend. cia director william burns says the global climate crisis is an important priority for the u.s. intelligence community.
speaking at the annual aspen security forum in colorado burns said we cannot afford to sleep on the threat and the potential consequences. >> if you assume, as i do, that, you know, the people's republic of china is the biggest geopolitical challenge that our country faces as far as in the 21st century as i can see the biggest existential threat in many ways is climate change. >> the heat also affecting rock. ♪ >> some disappointed fans after pearl jam canceled its vienna show after the lead singer eddie vedder's throat was damaged which he says happened after the band's outdoor concert in paris. fred, obviously people aren't happy about this but what happened? >> reporter: you're absolutely
right, they're really unhappy about this but it goes to show the big effect that these massive wildfires and this heat wave is having across europe and on rock and roll as well. apparently pearl jam was playing a gig outside of paris just outside of paris at an outdoor venue when heat, dust and smoke from nearby wildfire caused that damage to the vocal chords of eddie vedder. pearl jam said that he went to see a doctor, got medical attention but his vocal chords simply did not recover in time to be able to play the next gig which was supposed to be last night in austria in vienna. the statement that pearl jam put out, they said as a band we are deeply sorry and have tried to find options to still play and ed wants to play but there is no throat available at this time. no throat to be able to play a gig. now, the next gig on that pearl jam tour is supposed to be tomorrow night in prague in the czech republic we will see if that goes through. it is still scheduled to start
but we will wait and see whether or not that actually happens as of course europe remains really in the grip of that massive heat wave and especially france has been hit really hard by those wildfires. again, also affecting pearl jam as well, of course, one of the greatest bands of all time so we do wish eddie vedder a speedy and full recovery because we do need him. he's great. >> i feel like there's editorializing going on there. >> john is disputing your characterization. i should notes in the break he was playing pearl jam out loud on his laptop. >> fred pleitgen yearning for pearl jam there. we need him back. >> we do. we do need him back. >> fred pleitgen, thank you so much. >> fred by the way is a phenomenal guitarist. >> really? >> check out his social media feeds. he can play. >> i have seen him on multiple international trips, i have never seen him with a guitar. >> he sings to me. >> special. everyone saw this important development in the house of representatives where the house
passed with 47 republican votes a measure called the respect for marriage act which would basically codify federally the right for same-sex marriage. now, if it is going to get through the u.s. senate it would need all 50 senate democratic votes plus the support of ten republican senators. it would need that to get past a filibuster. cnn has reached out to all 50 senate republicans to find out where they stand. so joining us now cnn congressional correspondent jessica dean with some interesting numbers. jessica? >> good morning to you, john. yes, we did, my colleagues and i spent yesterday reaching out to all 50 gop senators to kind of test the waters, see where they are on this. you're looking at the numbers right now, this is what we've got so far, four likely to support, eight no, 16 told us they were undecided, a lot of people wanted to see the language first and wanted to take a look at the bill. 22 we are still waiting on to respond.
i want to say that they do expect on both sides that they will get the ten to overcome the senate filibuster, something we talk about a lot. they have to have 60 to get anything through. these are the four republicans who have said that they will support this measure and key to this, rob portman and susan collins both are going to be co-sponsors of this legislation. those are the four that we know are most likely a yes on this legislation. these are the eight that have told us that they are going to be a no on this legislation, some republicans really dismissing the need for this idea, democrats really pushing this legislation because supreme court justice clarence thomas in his opinion on overturning that constitutional right to an abortion noted contraception and same-sex marriage might need to be looked at again. some republicans saying they simply don't think that's going to happen. marco rubio saying he thinks this is a stupid waste of time. those are the eight that are so far a no. these are the undecided senators right now, again, as i
mentioned, a lot of people waiting to see the language on this before they proceed forward, but joni ernst telling us she's keeping an open mind, she just wants to take a look at things, for example. so we will continue to see these numbers evolve, but, again, people on both sides of the aisle believing that they will get to ten and this will likely pass. the question on this is going to be the timing because right now we are headed toward an august recess where all of these lawmakers, john, are going to go home for about a month, that's the schedule at this point. they have a lot of things on their plate they want to get done first. this is likely to slide until after august recess but politically for democrats the thing to keep an eye on is they like that timing because then they are getting closer to the midterm elections, they can be talk about this issue. >> it is notable that you're hearing from both sides they think they will get the ten republican votes because i don't think this was on anyone's radar a few weeks ago. this has all happened very quickly. >> it absolutely has.
you voted at the beginning of our segment 47 house republicans we talked to john thune yesterday, he is in leadership for senate republicans and he said he really thinks that that was a really strong show of support from house republicans that he expects to see a show of support from senate republicans as well. >> this would be a milestone. jessica dean, thank you very much. we have new cnn reporting this morning on the biden administration working to protect abortion rights for pregnant migrant minors who are in government custody. the effort comes as many states in the united states have banned or severely limited the right to abortion following that supreme court decision to overturn roe versus wade. let's bring in cnn's priscilla alvarez. what are you hearing this morning on this effort they are making? >> among those caught in the cross hairs after the supreme court decision are federal agencies trying to navigate the states that have banned or will ban abortion and one of those is the department of health and human services. that is a department that oversees the care of migrant minors who arrive to the united
states without a parent or guardian and some of those minors when they come into custody are pregnant. it makes it all the more challenging with the shifting abortion landscape and a source now tells me that the administration is working on guidance to ensure that their abortion rights are protected. now, hhs has previously released two separate memos, one in 2020 after litigation and another one in 2021 after the texas abortion law. both of those memos focused on pregnancy related medical services and it's the texas one that an advocate pointed to when i spoke to her about what to expect moving forward. that texas guidance provided direction to shelter providers when they have a pregnant minor who is in need of an abortion and it provides guidance in terms of transferring them to another shelter in another state should they need those services. so this is a pressing issue, one that the administration is working on and we should also note, kaitlan, that immigration and customs enforcement similarly reminded its workforce of guidance for pregnant
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in primetime tonight the january 6th committee will look into what former president trump did and did not do for the 187 minutes during the attack. cnn's pamela brown takes a minute by minute look back at the insurrection. >> reporter: one and a half years later the minute by minute horrors of the january 6th insurrection are becoming even clearer as the house select committee continues its public hearings, it is uncovering new details of that fateful day. including the heated phone call that morning with then president trump, pressuring vice president pence to prevent the certification of the election. >> i remember hearing the word
"wimp" either he called him a wimp, i don't remember if he said you are a wimp, you will be a wimp. >> it was a different tone than i had heard him take with the vice president before. >> do you remember what she said, her father called him? >> the "p" word. >> reporter: earlier that morning the white house had learned that people arriving at trump's rally were armed. >> they had glock-style pistols in their waist bands. >> reporter: chief of staff mark meadows' aide cassidy hutchinson testified tony ornato briefed the president and meadows separately about the weapons. the rally at the ellipse goes on as planned with many of trump's most loyal associates igniting the crowd. >> let's have trial by combat. >> reporter: trump watching from back stage and allows medical detectors to be removed to allow more of his supporters to attend. >> i overheard the president say something to the effect of i don't care if they have weapons,
they're not here to hurt me, taking. the effing mags away. >> reporter: at noon trump takes the stage. >> we're going to walk down to the capitol. you will never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength. >> reporter: while he speaks problepro trump rioters including the proud boys overrun the first set of barriers outside the capitol. at 1:10 trump's speech concludes and house minority leader kevin mccarthy warns hutchinson that trump should not come at the capitol. >> he just said it on stage, cassidy, figure it out. don't come up here. >> reporter: nine minutes later trump arrives at the white house, apparently enraged the secret service refused to take him to the capitol. >> the president reached up toward the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel, mr. engel grabbed him arm, said,
sir, you need to take your hand off of the steering wheel. we're going back to the west wing, we are not going to the capitol. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engel, when mr. or nat toe recounted this story he mentioned towards his clavicles. >> reporter: by 2:00 the capitol goes into lockdown, the senate abruptly adjourns soon after. back at the white house white house counsel pat cipollone tells meadows trump should intervene or people will die. >> mark had responded something to the effect of you heard it, pat, he thinks mike deserves it, he doesn't think they're doing something wrong. mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood will be on your effing hands. >> reporter: minutes later trump tweets, slamming pence for not overturning the election. >> the situation is already bad, so it felt like he was pouring gasoline on the fire by tweeting that. >> we need an area for the house members.
they are all walking over now through the tunnels. >> reporter: at 2:30 u.s. capitol police start evacuating lawmakers and the secret service removes pence from the senate floor. and shortly after trump sends another tweet for everyone to remain peaceful, but does not tell the rioters to leave the capitol. seconds later the first capitol windows are smashed by dominic piz la, an alleged proud boy who has leaded not guilty to seditious conspiracy. rioters flood into the capitol and are scaling the scaffolding outside. then another far right group the oath keepers are seen weaving through the crowd in a military-style formation and entering the capitol building. inside the capitol the violence is escalating. pro-trump rioter ashli babbitt is fatally shot by an officer when she attempts to climb through a window. a minute later rioters breach the senate floor and break into nancy pelosi's office. for more than an hour many close
allies and associates try to persuade trump to intervene by sending text messages to meadows. white house aides even draft a statement that was never sent. at 4:15 then president-elect biden speaks. >> this is not dissent, it's disorder. it's chaos. it borders on sedition. and it must end. now. >> reporter: minutes later trump tweeted out a video message for his supporters to go home and repeating the lie that the election was stolen. >> let's get back to work. >> reporter: around 8:00 p.m. the capitol police announced the capitol was secure and the senate and house reconvened to finish certifying the election. pamela brown, cnn, washington. >> it's remarkable to look at that. 187 minutes condensed into five minutes. >> it is. you know, everyone, the country lived through that day, saw so much of it, but there's still so much of it that we did not see
and some of that may be the focus tonight. >> and what's remarkable is i was in d.c. obviously covering the white house that day, we knew it was going to be some kind of significant day because they've been putting so much buildup. it just felt different. walking into the white house that morning, being in the environment, it just -- it just -- everything seemed different. >> there was a shadow over everything. >> yeah, so it will be a fascinating hearing tonight. meanwhile, at the current white house president biden is set to unveil a new plan as crime is rising across the united states. we ahead have the new white house adviser, keisha lance bottoms who is going to join us live to explain the new policies. all right. a potentially rare faberge egg, there are only a few dozen of these things on earth, recovered from a russian oligarch's yacht maybe. the story behind the seizure.
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today in pennsylvania president biden is going to ask congress for $37 billion for crime prevention programs as he works to address one of the biggest concerns that americans have ahead of the midterm elections in november. joining us now for her first interview on cnn since joining the white house is former atlanta mayor and former cnn political commentator keisha lance bottoms. mayor, thank you so much for joining us this morning. i just want to start with what president biden is going to be talking about today and how these policies and this funding that you're asking for would reduce crime in the united states. >> well, thank you for having me. what i am so happy about that president biden is doing today is that he's listened to mayors and governors across the country, and what mayors and governors have said repeatedly is that we need more resources in order to fight crime. so what you will see rolled out
today will be a comprehensive approach. it will be funding towards more law enforcement officers, but also the ability to hold law enforcement officers more accountable, also resources going into cities and states that will allow cities and states to take those actions that we know stop people from entering a life of crime, whether it's after school programming, mental health services, substance abuse counseling. these things that we know often local and state governments don't have the resources to support, and also the president is continuing to lean in on where we are with guns and making it more difficult for people to distribute ghost guns in this country. so he is taking a holistic approach to what we're dealing with crime and we will see it in what he will speak about later today. >> and i know as former mayor of atlanta you know all too well how communities deal with these issues and how much funding they
do need, but one thing about this is this is in the budget request that the administration is making to congress. it hasn't actually been approved yet and it does have to get approved. but one of the things that's in it, one of the provisions is about $13 billion over the next five years to hire another 100,000 police officers. why is that what's needed to make the difference? >> well, what we know is that law enforcement has taken a hit over the past few years. it has become increasingly difficult to attract people into law enforcement and increasingly difficult to retain people in law enforcement. so this will allow cities and states to hire for officers, but, again, the accountability piece is very important. we want to hire people who want to be involved in communities, people who want -- who believe in community policing and developing these proactive relationships with communities. so there are communities across america that are asking for more patrols in their communities, but they also want positive
interactions with law enforcement and that's what the president is taking a look at and that's what this funding will help support. >> yeah, it's been very clear that americans do consider crime one of the top challenges facing the country. and so on that front and based on what you're talking about that any concerns that the rhetoric you heard from the more progressive flank of the democratic party over the last several years has hurt democrats' credibility on this matter? >> well, what i can say is that i was mayor of one of the most progressive cities in america and there was a desire to have well-trained police officers in our communities, and so i don't think anyone disagrees with the fact that we need police protection in our communities. when there is no more crime, we can stop hiring police officers. but what people want and i believe the progressive wing of the party has also asked for is that we have officers who are well-trained, who respect our communities, and who are also held accountable. there are hundreds of thousands
of men and women who go into law enforcement and do a very honorable job. we want to make sure that we have the ability with funding that we will be sharing hopefully with cities and states across america to allow cities and states to hire those type people to continue to protect and serve our communities. >> and i know from the polling this has been very important. one of the most recent cnn polls shows that when voters were asked if they approve or disapprove of the president's handling when it comes to gun policy, 39% said they approve, but 60% said they disapproved. what do you make of that? >> well, we know that this president has done more than any president, as it relates to tackling gun violence in america. we know that he was responsible for the assault weapon ban that we had many years ago. he's taken every action that he can possibly take as president, but there is also a need for congress to take action. we know that the bipartisan bill that was signed just a couple of
weeks ago was an important first step, but it is just that, it is a first step. there is so much more that needs to be done and including banning assault weapons, and president is continuing to lean into that, and asking congress to support him in that effort. >> what happens if the congress doesn't approve the funding that the white house says they need for these fronts? >> well, of course, it is our hope that congress will approve this funding, and we will cross that bridge when we get to it. the president has made his position very clear. he has listened to mayors and governors. i was one of those mayors when i sat in the white house in -- as mayor of atlanta in march of '21, right after the president was inaugurated, and as we talked about covid, we could already see crime emerging in places like atlanta and georgia that were already open. so what the president will continue to do is to remind congress that this is about communities, this is about not
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u.s. officials have made a discovery that could be worth millions aboard a seized russian yacht. justice department officials are now revealing they found what appears to be a fabergeauthenti it one of the few remaining in the world. so, joining us now to discuss this is tony faber, author "faberge eggs." tony, at this point, i assume that all russian yachts come with faberge eggs, but i know they're actually indeed quite rare. how do they figure out if this is real or not? >> well, first of all, i think we all would love to see a picture of it, wouldn't we? i mean, the likelihood it is real is pretty small, i think, probably. that's to say there are 50 of these eggs made and they're fabulous. wonderful examples of creativity, of luxury as well,
these links to the decadent romanoffs and their court and there are only 50 of them and we know where 43 of them are. i don't think it is likely to be one of those 43, so we're down to 7 missing ones that have been basically missing since the revolution. >> beautiful symbols of decadence, though. right? how often does one just turn up? >> well, one did just turn up, about five years ago. in a midwest -- somewhere in the u.s. midwest, it was bought by a dealer in scrap metal, for scrap metal value. scrap metal value was $13,000, it was a lot of gold and things like that. and luckily for him he just slightly paid too much for it and he didn't make a return on his investment, i went online and googled, and it was a clock made by clockmaker philip vosero
no. enthusiasts knew this egg was missing and likely to be found. that's the last one that turned up and he's rumored to have turned his $13,000 into something well north of $30 million, but we don't know exactly what he sold it for. they do occasionally turn up. but generally there is some reason why we know they must be likely to turn up, like that one people were expecting. if it is one of the seven that haven't turned up yet, then it is going to have a very good -- a very good story for where it has been for the last 100 years because the truth is it is worth forging these things now. >> a huge question will be what does the justice department do with that, now that they have seized it? we would all like to see a picture of it. if attorney general merrick garland is watching, we'll let him know, toby, we would like to see a photo of this faberge egg. tony faber, thank you for joining us to talk about what is attorn certainly one of the most extraordinary stories of the morning. >> thank you very much. >> and "new day" continues right now.