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than never. >> do you think that trump should be prosecuted? >> i personally, yes. but i'm not the attorney general. i think that the committee presented a lot of evidence as to his not just complicity but his active engagement in the insurrection. >> in this case, the mounting evident indicates an investigation is well warranted and there ought to be serious consideration of a prosecution. the walls are closing in on donald trump. >> now, the democrats who are part of the house select committee say they have begun a process to share information with the justice department. some of those members including congressman adam schiff, a member of the committee, told me they would give any information that the justice department wants, and that being significant because as you know, the committee and the justice department have sparred for some team about sharing information, only recently have they set a process to provide that information that they are asking for, and they're happy with hearing the news from the justice department going
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forward. >> what do republicans have to say? >> the republicans offered a bit of a muted response. many not defending donald trump's actions, not yet criticizing what the justice department is doing, taking a wait and see approach. one of those republicans, lindsey graham of south carolina, who told me earlier today that he does not think that trump should be prosecuted. >> that's just ridiculous for me to comment over what some grand jury may be looking at. i don't see anything to prosecute him over. >> now, graham himself has come under scrutiny for phone calls he made to the georgia secretary of state in the aftermath of the november 2020 elections. the georgia prosecutor looking into donald trump's actions, has asked for graham to come before the grand jury and testify there. graham himself has said that he will not do that, he's trying to fight that subpoena. nevertheless, you're hearing some defense from republicans but most are saying they're going to take a wait and see approach. >> maanu raju, thank you so muc.
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>> federal prosecutors have obtained a warrant to search the cell phone of right-wing attorney john eastman. in their january 6th criminal investigation. eastman, as you may recall, was a key figure pushing this deranged plan for vice president mike pence to try to constitutionally overturn the 2020 election, which of course, he did not have the power to do. evan perez joins us now. prosecutors had already gotten a warrant to seize his phone, but this is a separate search warrant? >> this is a second warrant, essentially, jake, for them to be able to go through some of this device, and what we learned in this new court filing from prosecutors is that they have set up a process by which to separate some of the material that they're looking through to make sure they don't run into any attorney/client privilege issues. obv obviously, eastman has claimed he was acting as a lawyer for the former president, for former president trump. and of course, obviously, he is a big figure in this. he was involved in not only the
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setting up of this scheme to pressure mike pence in january 4th, there was that meeting where pence was pressured by the former president, by eastman to -- with this idea that he could set aside the election results, and of course, set up this whole scheme for fake electors to keep donald trump in office. obviously, the former vice president did not do that. but importantly, mark short, the vice president's chief of staff, and greg jacob, were in that meeting, and of course, we know they have now been brought before the grand jury as part of this investigation. so that's an important development. obviously, another important development we learned today is that cassidy hutchinson, who was a big witness in the january 6th hearings, recently, she has now begun cooperating with the justice department. we don't know the extent of that cooperation, but she's an important witness. >> thanks so much. >> joining us to discuss, republican congressman adam kinzinger of illinois. we're learning the justice
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department's investigation into what happened on january 6th in the months before it as well, they're now looking at conduct related to donald trump and his closest allies. what's your reaction? >> well, i think it's essential. i think the january 6th committee, though we're not out to pursue criminal charges, we're simply out to make recommendations, tell the truth to the american people. i think what we have shown is that at least there's enough evidence that's worthy of the investigation. the department of justice will make the decision of what threshold that reaches. but i gotta tell you, jake, there thing i'm concerned about, yes, i think there is some serious concerns about stability, if a former president is indicted, but where my bigger concern is on stability is what happens to a country that says a former president can attempt a coup and as long as he's unsuccessful, we let bygones be bygones. of course, if that president is successful, then he controls the government and the levers of government. so while this is a no-win
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situation, i certainly think this country cannot set a standard that you can cover up the law and you can attempt to overcome the will of the people. >> your fellow committee member told cnn the justice department has given a list of transcripts that they want your committee to prioritize handing over to them. are you able to gain any insight into what the doj is focusing on based on which transcripts they're asking you to hand over? >> yeah, we can. i don't want to go too much into the revelation of that. the committee is certainly fine, obviously, working with doj. even though we're running two separate investigations, we want to insure our investigation is complete and we can do what we want, but we will cooperate with the department of justice. again, they have decisions to make. they have a lot of investigating, i'm sure, still left. but i think for the sake of this country and for stability, it's really important for them to pursue this, regardless of what the outcome of this is. >> listen to what attorney general garland told nbc news
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yesterday about whether trump becoming a candidate or even the nominee for the republican party, for president, would change their investigation. >> we will hold accountable anyone who is criminally responsible for attempting to interfere with the transfer, legitimate, lawful transfer of power from one administration to the next. >> in your view, who are some of the people who you think definitively tried to interfere with the transfer of power? >> well, i personally think certainly the president. i mean, we have laid out multiple pronged approaches that he started on from just calling out the legitimacy of the election and conspiracies, pressuring the vice president, to attempting to change the department of justice, any number of things, to finally on january 6th, really not doing nothing, sitting back and proactively resisting peer pressure, which he's actually not very good at doing usually, resisting that pressure to act, to kind of let's see what happens here at the capitol.
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let's see if they're successful. i certainly think him. i think we presented a strong case for attorney eastman, that was in my hearing about the department of justice. so i think there's any number of people that could be along that line, but look, i think anybody that believes, and maybe i even had this thought kind of at the beginning, that the president was kind of along for the ride and people were just convincing him. that is not the case. as liz cheney said, he's not a toddler. he can think for himself. it's quite obvious that he was determined to stay in power and tried multiple prongs and avenues to do that. >> take a look at the house calendar. members are home in your districts for most of august. you're back in session after labor day. but then back home for the opportunity to campaign for re-election for most of october ahead of the midterms. the committee must be under a lot of pressure to release your interim report during september before committee members go home for october. >> yeah, look, i have learned on this committee that there really
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is no break or recess. even when we're home, we're working remotely. the staff, i think, is really the unsung heroes in all this. they have been doing god's work to get all the details together. yeah, i think we intend to put out as mentioned an interim report, the investigation continues. and we can walk and chew gum, and i think every day that goes by, we get closer to more answers, secret service, for instance, and everything else. so unfortunately, we don't get too much of an august when it comes to this committee but it's important work for the american people and we're happy to do it. >> what is the latest on the secret service. there were a whole bunch of whispers from people near the secret service saying they would be willing to testify about that story about whether or not then deputy chief of staff tony ornoto told cassidy hutchinson that story about trump lunging in the suv, but you told cnn talks have completely broken down and they weren't cooperating anymore, those three
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secret service agents, the gentleman that was the secret servant agent, ornoto, and the guy who drove the suverb. what's the status? >> it's a pattern we see which is through anonymous sources things are questioned at the committee. through anonymous sources they say they're willing to come in and give counter evidence and they never do because we require them to be under oath. as of now, we have not talked to these secret service agents. they have lawyered up, which is their right to do, and we'll go from there. the attorneys are engaging to figure out what's next. but yeah, that's, again, the standard kind of trump operation patterns through anonymous sources or through whisper campaigns try to discredit people and not be willing to do it under oath, and cassidy hutchinson has shown she's a brave american woman, and i think people like her, sarah matthews, caroline edwards will go down in history as having more courage than frankly almost every man in the republican party combined. >> your vice chair of the committee liz cheney told me on sunday the committee is prepared to consider subpoenaing ginni
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thomas, the wife of chaira acla thomas if she does not appear before the committee voluntarily. when would that decision be made? >> so that's -- so the lawyers are really good at kind of knowing when they're in legitimate negotiations which is all standard or when they're being stalled. and typically what we have seen is they'll come to us and say, they're just stalling right now. that's when we issue a subpoena. i think when we get to that threshold, we will. rer rr not treating her differently because of her last name. we have discovered more and more involvement, some of which has been reported openly about her involvement with eastman or trying to convince state electors. we want to talk to her. she said through the media that she's eager to talk to us. hopefully we can get there. if not, we'll do what we need to do. >> lastly on a separate topic, we're seeing the democratic party is funding maga republicans in these republican primary elections in the hopes that those maga republicans who are more extreme win the primary
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and then it would be easier for democrats to beat them in the general election. democrats are now doing this to peter meyer, republican congressman from michigan. he's one of the few republicans, as i don't need to tell you because there are only ten of you, who voted to impeach donald trump for the insurrection. what do you make of this? >> yeah, we are a small crew. governor pritzker spent $30 million of his own money to promote an election denier candidate who is now our republican nominee. it's ridiculous. i have democrats all the time, and i'm glad they're speaking out on this, who say where are all the good republicans. country first, which i have, we're trying to get democrats to vote in these primaries for good people that actually support the constitution and so i would encourage people to do that. that's where your effort is spent, because democracy is at stake. when you spend money promoting these bad election denying candidates, i don't know if you fully understand how at risk we are. >> there's a lot of smart democrats i know think there's a big red wave coming. a lot of these fringe folks could end up swept into state
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houses and the u.s. capitol. >> i'll go one further. there will be some of these candidates that were promoted that end up in office and do real damage. you know, just look at the governor of pennsylvania. that's a competitive race. look at illinois, et cetera. you will see that after november. it's a very dangerous game to play. you're playing with fire. playing with fire, you're going to get burned. >> republican congressman adam kinzinger, thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> the response from house democrats when big names gun maker smith & wesson did not show up for a hearing on the hill. >> plus, a call is set for tomorrow between president biden and the leader of china. what the white house says the two plan to discuss with the backdrop of tensions between the two countries. stay with us.
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head of the house oversight committee plans to subpoena the country's second biggest rifle maker, smith & wesson, after the ceo of the company failed to show up for a hearing focused on ar-style semiautomatic rifles. the same semiautomatic rifles used the parkland and highland park shootings. listen to a gun experts describing why he believes these guns are different from others.
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>> specifically designed to be an offensive weapon of war for troops. in this case, the ar-15 would be much like a formula one race car. it's like other cars but it's specifically designed to do things very fast, very easy. >> cnn's josh campbell has been following this. the ceos of two other gun manufacturers did show up today. what did they have to say? >> that's right. the focus today was assault style weapons. they released their initial findings into an investigation of the gun industry itself, alleging manufacturers have employed questionable marketing tactics including appealing to white supremacists, preying on the masculinity of young men and running advertisements that mimic video games. these two ceos denied any inappropriate practices, they defended their ability to sell these weapons despite the carnage they have caused. >> how many more american
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children need to die before your company will stop selling assault weapons? >> i believe that these murders are local problems that have to be solved locally. >> i don't consider the modern sporting rifles today that my company produces to be weapons of war. and like all americans, i grieve when we read about these tragic incidences. >> that was the refrain we heard throughout. democrats slamming these creos. the ceos saying the product is lawful and constitutionally protected. >> tell us about this particularly intense exchange between committee members. >> well, republicans on the committee have defended the gun industry, saying the issue isn't guns but progress sk policing policies they say have led to high crime in some cities. those have been common defenses from conservatives, but there was one particular exchange that was notable. a fiery moment as one republican
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himself a former cop, actually suggested that gun control efforts could lead to shootouts between gun owners and federal agents. watch. >> when you think atf and fbi comes to a house in the dead of night, you're setting up gun fights between american citizens, when those gun fights happen, that blood will be on your hands. >> i can match his passion with my own. we will not be threatened with violence and bloodshed because we want reasonable gun control. i will not yield. i will not yield. >> now, our colleague lauren conan caught this moment afterwards where that congressman, clay higgins, was confronted by a survivor of the highland park massacre. she asked the congressman, have you ever had to run from a mass shooter? he told her that he himself was once in law enforcement, she said so you do know what it's like to be shot at? jake, he didn't answer. >> thanks so much.
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we're back with our politics lead and the anxious hand wringing over the upcoming midterm elections by democrats. house minority kevin mccarthy says he has urged former president to hold off and not announce anything regarding 2024 until after november. mccarthy says he wants to focus on winning the midterms first and foremost. cnn data reporter harry enten joins us with a raw look at the
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raw data. where do things stand in the outlook for the midterms for democrats and republicans? >> yeah, so if you look at the generic congressional ballot and the choice for congress, what we see is that while republicans still hold an advantage of one point, that lead has been dropping over the last few months, which perhaps isn't so surprising. trump has been in the news a lot more with the january 6th select committee. and the more trump is in the news, the worst it has generally been for republicans. i want you to keep in mind this one point lead and look at history, because essentially what i want to look at is the best republican positions on the generic ballot at this point in midterm cycles since 1938. guess where that one-point lead in 2022 sits? it is the second best position republicans have ever been in on the generic congressional ballot at this point, and all the other times in which democrats did not hold a lead and republicans were tied with democrats or the republicans were up by three in 2010, look what happened in the majority. who won the majority? it was republicans every single
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time. even though democrats have been gaining, i would not be worried necessarily based on history if i were a republican. >> democrats need to be up like at least five, six, seven points to have a fighting chance. we're still three months, more than three months away from election day. is there reason to think the polls might be underestimated one side or the other? are polls like this typically indicative of what happens in november? >> if we were in fact to say okay, we think it's underestimated one side, i think it would be underestimated the republicans. take a look at the july 27th house polling versus the november national vote and midterm cycles where there's a democratic president. we'll go back since 1994. what we see generally, we see some blue here, some democratic leads in 2014, 1994, a tie back in 1998. republicans plus three. then look at the november results. in each of these years, the republicans outperformed their july polling in the november result.
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and the average shift from the july polling to the november result, an average shift of six points to republicans. why might that be? take a look here. the shift in party identification margin. remember, it's not all registered voters we're interested in. it's actual midterm voters. if we look at every single election since 1978 with a democratic president, there's been a shift in the party margin, party i.d. margin. more republicans turn out on election day compared to what the actual registered voters when there's a democratic president. >> so democrats should be looking at november in sheer terror? >> i would not be a big fan of what's going to happen in november if i were a democrat and i had a crystal ball. we can just look at straight history. the white house party loses four or more seats since 1870. 35 out of 38 times, that that been the case. the white house party has last four or more seats. the only times in polling history in which they didn't
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lose four or more seats, 1998 and 2002. look at the president's approval rating. 64%, 66%. joe biden's approval rating at this point is just 38%. it doesn't look anything like those years. >> all right, harry enten, thanks so much. let's talk about this with my panel. kristen, you're a pollster. do you agree with harry's assessment and is there anything democrats can do to change this dinamentic. >> i'm not interested in giving democrats a ton of advice. i think harry is right. i have seen in my own polling a bump for democrats over the last couple weeks. this could be in part because donald trump has been in the news more. it could be because of heightened democratic enthusiasm in the wake of the dobbs ruling. but there's no guarantee it will last until november. the senate, a different question because candidate quality really matters there, and that's a separate conversation, but the house at least, republicans have
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every reason to be feeling great. >> doug, my cnn colleague reports that many democratic leaders want to reframe the midterms so it's less about them and their performance and joe biden's performance and more about the republican party which they're trying to paint as extremists. senator brian schatz of hawaii said democrats would be irresponsible if we went with the stuff about delivering infrastructure. there's a place for all that, but these people are out of their minds and are acting with impunity, and we need to say so. do you think that could work? >> i don't think it's enough. i understand the impulse, but here's the sad truth for democrats. is that working people do not believe that democrats know how to make the economy work for them. and they need to hear more of that. we are at a historical disadvantage against republicans on the economy, despite republican policies that make it hard to have a good job with good benefits. and i get there is a responsibility to call out extremists who are a threat to
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democracy, but it's not talking about everyday concerns of everyday working people, and we have to do that too. >> one of the things that's interesting is democrats because of this horurendous cycle they'e facing are getting mercenary. one of the things they're doing in the hopes of putting up the weakest possible republican for november, democrats are funding in some cases these far right maga candidates. they did it in the maryland governor's race. mastriano was already winning in the pennsylvania republican governor's race, but they did it with him, too. they're now going after congressman peter meijer, putting up a far right extremist candidate against peter meijer who is a republican who voted to impeach donald trump. take a listen to peter meijer talking about the strategy earlier today. >> the guy has a long track record of anti-semitic comments, of defending holocaust deniers and, you know, instead of going to defend them, are going to boost him.
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it's pretty galling in the hypocrisy of it all, and just shameless given their high minded rhetoric about how they are the party of democracy. spare me the bullshit. >> that's some strong words. you heard adam kinzinger say earlier on the show, he thinks that this red wave is going to bring some of these lunatics into congress. >> yeah, i think i would question sort of the accuracy of their assumption that who is the weaker candidate in this type of cycle when it could be a wave year and many of these candidates could get elected and end up in congress. and the congressman is right, given how much focus democrats have put on saying they're the party of protecting democratic institutions, part of their sort of messaging on calling republicans out for being extremists, this is seeming very hypocritical if they're going to continue to do this. >> especially as you see the white house kind of really take that on and start to execute on that, on that rhetoric. just earlier this week, when president biden was speaking to a law enforcement group, black law enforcement group, you saw him start to have some more kind
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of heated rhetoric and calling out specifically the former president and the lack of action he took on january 6th. it was very similar to that speech he made in january on the anniversary of january 6th. which was one of those addresses where he really specifically criticized the former president in ways we haven't seen. when you talk to democratic advisers and allies of the white house, they have been asking really for two things. one, call out the other side and the quote/unquote extremism on the other side, and you saw them take advantage of that a little bit with describing some of the economic policies and other policies as ultra maga. the other thing is to describe what you have already done. describe the legislation that you have already passed. it's hard to do the latter when inflation is so high, and it's going to be hard to do the former if you continue with this funding strategy. there are risks here going forward. >> there is some reason for hope on some democratic achievement because democrats, they need a win. they might have one in the pipeline. moderate democratic senator joe
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manchin says he has a deal with democratic leader schumer on an energy and health care bill in addition to an agreement on taxes. how vital do you think that is for your party, doug? >> it should help. the democrats have gotten a lot of good stuff done. and it's been a big frustration that it doesn't break through the way that we would like it to. back to what i was saying about the sad truth for democrats is being at a disadvantage, people don't trust democrats on the economy. and a lots of these, i understand the dynamics around calling out extremists and so forth, but we have to do what we can to talk about what's like in this lowering prescription drug costs. cost of living as we all know is the top issue for a lot of people in this cycle. and it is all the time for a lot of working people whose jobs don't pay enough to make ends meet. and that's really what they need to be able to turn to democrats for, and they don't hear it enough. i think there's sort of a wealth of good policies that have gotten out there.
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you can predict what's going to happen here if it comes through. it will get lost in the debate of it's not enough, that sort of thing. it's easy for accomplishments like this to get lost in the noise. >> there are accomplishments. they do have accomplishments. obama would have given his eye teeth for a gun bill or an infrastructure bill. trump probably would have if he had ever actually tried to get one, really liked to have an infrastructure bill. why do you think it is that it's not cutting through? >> in some cases, take for instance, some of the big spending that happened in the first yooer of the biden administration. a hot of voters say is that why my groceries cost so much, is that why my gas costs so much? even if an economist comes in and says i have six charts to show you why that's not the case, for voters they're saying i feel like biden came into office and all of a sudden everything about my economic life got turned a bit topsy turvy. for democrats i think saying hey, look at all the stuff we have done in washington, for a lot of voters, they're like, we're lookingats what you did in
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washington. we don't like it. that's why we're going to vote for republicans in november. >> house republican leader mccarthy wants trump to hold off until after the midterms to make his announcement that he's running for president, which it's pretty much a foregone conclusion. that's because he thinks it will hurt republicans, right? >> that's right. it's clear the republican playbook is to focus as much on the economy as possible, to focus on a joe biden, based on the polling we have seen, his approval ratings are plummeting, especially on the economy, that's the message republicans want to drive home. when donald trump gets thrown into the mix, there focus becomes on trump, and they don't want any sort of deviation from the plan on the economy. >> take a listen to trump. this is trump giving his view of the united states of america. i want to get your reaction. >> our country is now a cesspool of crime. we have blood, death, and suffering on a scale once unthinkable because of the democrat party's effort to destroy and dismantle law
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enforcement. it has to stop. and it has to stop now. >> i was going to say, even if trump doesn't, you know, make an official announcement of running for president, as you have seen from this week, he's still going to put himself in the limelight. for many republicans that are trying to focus the attention on political liabilities for the white house, inflation, the economy, what have you, you know, the former president has shown that he's going to continue to promote fraudulent lies about the election. that right there does foreshadow a playbook around 2020 trying to portray a democratic party as one of chaos, that doesn't support law and order. it's interesting, you have president biden going out of his way to show that he has allocated stimulus funds for police departments as well. >> thanks one and all. >> president biden today aviators and all, back out and about after his bout with covid. comparing his experience with how donald trump was treated when he was sick.
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take a look. >> my predecessor got covid, he had to get helicopters to walter reed medical center. when i got covid, i worked from upstairs in the white house. >> ahead, the major call biden set for tomorrow as he faces off with china.
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in our world lead, president biden has tested negative for covid. he's celebrating the end of his isolation by diving right back into his schedule. starting with a critical call to chinese president xi jinping tomorrow. as kaitlan collins reports, this call comes as tensions are ratcheting up between the united states and china. and a potential nancy pelosi
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trip to taiwan sparks a national security scramble. >> thought i heard a rumbling of he's staff saying oh, he's back. >> after two negative tests, president biden returned to the west wing following five days in isolation. >> and now i get to go back to the oval office. >> one of the first things on his to-do list, a major call with chinese president xi jinping. >> i'm not going to speak to what the rpresident is going to cover, but the president is focused on trying to address inflation. >> biden will speak to the chinese leader for the first time in four months with a range of issues including tariffs on the agenda, and a potential visit to taiwan by house speaker nancy pelosi looming over it all. >> i think that it's important for us to show support for taiwan. >> national security officials are quietly working to convince pelosi not to visit the self-governed island, concerned about how president xi could react as he's working to boost his standing at home amid a
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bleak economic backdrop. >> i think what the president was saying is maybe the military was afraid our plane would get shot down or something like that by the chinese. >> pelosi has declined to confirm the visit, as china has threatened a forceful response if she follows through. >> i don't ever discuss my travel plans. it's a security issue. >> a spokesman for the chinese ministry of foreign affairs warning, quote, china will take strong measures to resolutely respond and counteract. the proposed visit has upended conventional politics in washington with a growing number of republicans encouraging pelosi to go. >> if she doesn't go now, she has handed china sort of a victory of sorts. >> even former president trump's secretary of state mike pompeo is urging her to follow through, tweeting, nancy, i'll go with you. i'm banned in china but not freedom loving taiwan. see you there. and jake, back on this major news that senator manchin announces that he has struck a
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deal with senator schumer when it comes to climate and lowering health care costs. this would be a welcome prospect for this white house that has gone round and round with manchin so many times on deals similar to this one. the white house has not issued a formal statement yet, but i am told that they have signed off on this agreement. that is notable. i will also say, jake, this was a pretty well kept secret in a town where there are few of them, certainly when lawmakers are involved. >> kaitlan collins, thank you so much. >> made in america. just made easier. a major bridge across the political divide to keep your car, your phone, your computer running smoothly. how chips brought lawmakers together. that story is next. let's get a quick take on the #1 pick, the philly. double provolone and juicy steak?! looks like we got another philly fan. nonope. the new subway series. what's your pick?
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a big achievement in our tech lead today. republican and democratic senators today approved a $52 billion bill which lawmakers hope will invigorate american semi-conductor production and research. a tack that is critical to our cars and phones and computers. it's a huge win for the industry and for the biden administration and for senators who worked on this, including republican senator todd young of indiana. he joins us to discuss. senator young, you have been working on this bill for more than two years. what will the immediate impact be assuming it gets to the president's desk and he signs it, which i assume it will? >> so thank you. this is a big win for america. certainly it will be a big win for my constituents, jake. what we're going to see in the near term are more semi-conductor manufacturing companies announcing a
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manufacturing presence on our american soil. so that we're no longer dependent on other countries for the sourcing of these computer chips that are the brains of basically everything with an on/off switch these days, from automobiles to weapons systems to our cell phones. and they'll be made in the heartland. in fact, just days ago, we had an announcement in west lafa lafayette, indiana, that sky water, one of the semi-conductor manufacturers would be locating their manufacturing chips if we pass this legislation. >> your fellow republican senator marco rubio voted no. he told fox that he thinks this legislation has a massive loophole that will allow companies to use taxpayer money and still build chips in china. is he wrong? >> i do think he's wrong. we have addressed that issue. we make sure that any manufacturer that receives money through this legislation to incentivize chip manufacture on our soil cannot engage in manufacturing the high-end chips
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that really invoke national security concerns for our people and our military. >> is that the concern so many semi-conductors are manufactured abroad that it gives the chinese visibility into american national security? is that the major part of this, beyond the jobs? >> well, not only is there a national security concern as it relates to the very high-end semi-conductors that go into our weapons systems, but it's an issue of economic security. one example would be we have anuto assembly plant, general motors, located in ft. wayne, indiana. they have idled twice this year because of the shortage of computer chips. that of course is driving up the cost of automobiles and creating all sorts of disruptions in our broader economy. this sort of thing won't happen in the future if we can source our computer chips domestically. >> china, taiwan tensions are one of the reasons for the urgency behind this bill. you're on the senate foreign relations committee.
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what do you think about the possibility of house speaker nancy pelosi traveling to taiwan and the threats that the chinese government has been making about it? >> well, listen, i'm glad that so far speaker pelosi at least has been coy about her intentions. i do think she should make clear in coming days that she won't be cowed by the threats of the chinese communist party. it has been the long-standing position of the chinese communist party that they believe taiwan is theirs, and they have offered all manner of threats from entering the aircraft identification zone with their military jets in taiwan to threatening local officials that don't align themselves with the chinese communist party. so this is in a sense nothing new. i hope that speaker pelosi will continue with her bipartisan trip. otherwise, we're going to be inviting weakness and encouraging the chinese in the future to just threaten america to get their way. this is especially important as
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it relates to taiwan, of course, because in part for the reason that they produce so many of those high-end computer chips right now. the so-called fabs or manufacturing facilities for the chips that go into our aircraft, our ships, and many of our sophisticated computer systems, are made right there in taiwan. yet another reason, because of the vulnerability, that we should be reshoring much of this capacity. >> before you go, last week, you told cnn you had not read the legislation that would codify same-sex marriage. it passed the house. with bipartisan support. now that your main priority, the chips bill, is passed in the senate, how are you going to vote on the same-sex marriage bill, do you know? >> i have not had an opportunity to read into it. i will say i have had some conversations with colleagues and so forth as i have been on the floor working on this chips legislation. but as you indicate, now that this has passed, i'll be consulting with my constituents and getting their opinion. my own view and the view of many
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of my constituents based on initial conversations is frankly, so many are unclear why government is involved in sanctioning a religious sacrament, marriage, all together. i think that's a fair question. something that we'll be discussing. the last thing i would say is that it's unclear why at this moment we have to address this issue. typically, the supreme court will address matters when there's a case or a controversy brought to it. right now, obergefell remains the law of the land, indicating that same-sex marriage is the law of the land. and frankly, a number of my constituents regard this as something that was somewhat settled. >> republican senator todd young of indiana, thank you so much. appreciate it. congrats on the chip bill. >> in the national lead, a long overdue honor to the men and women who sacrificed their lives during the korean war. a newly completed remembrance wall was dedicated today at the korean war veterans memorial on the national mall in washington,
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d.c. it contains the names of more than 36,000 americans who died or were killed supporting the war, and more than 7,000 koreans who died or were killed while augmenting the u.s. military effort. second gentleman doug emhoff participated in a wreath laying in the ceremony. the korean war ran from 1950 to 1953. >> up next, beyonce fans getting into formation. reportedly upset about the screw-up over her album coming out in two days. what screw-up? stay with me. lem so lve together, and find the answer that was right under their nose. or... his nose. (dad) we have to tell everyone that we just
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