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you are live in the cnn newsroom, i'm jim acosta in washington. historic flooding is devastating eastern kentucky. at least 25 people are dead and now an urgent search for survivors is underway as more storms are looming on the horizon. just look at the destruction here now that some of the water has receded, entire towns are wrecked, homes, roads and bridges no longer exist. power and water to thousands of home is out. the floods gave little warning and desperate residents scrambled to their rooftops or what was left of them. one teenage saved herself and her dog. you see the image right there. if infrastructure was no match for the fast-moving current, it is no wonder that the victims include four young siblings all washed away from the arms of their parents. kentucky's governor andy beshear today warning residents to brace for more bad news.
>> it's going to get worse, and i think that we will be updating it maybe even for weeks to come. we don't lose this many people in a flood, yet, there are still so many people unaccounted for. >> meteorologist gene norman is in the severe weather center for cnn. gene this is just devastating what has happened in kentucky right now, and as bad as it is at the moment, the flood threat is not over yet, is that correct? >> that is correct, jim. brand new flood watch is issued as new storms are beginning to percolate in western kentucky and western tennessee, and they're going to be marching eastward throughout the overnight. it's probably going to start raining in a place like hazard where the flooding was really bad. sometimes after midnight tonight. also seeing a bunch of storms firing up along a cold front. that front is going to lift northward. that's going to help these storms develop. new flood watch just issue that does include southern and eastern kentucky until monday morning. as we take a look at the rain as
it moves through in waves, that's where the pron blem is, it's going to move over the same areas repeatedly. in and around hazard one to three inches, on saturated ground that's going to really cause problems and anywhere from eastern arkansas all the way to virginia there is the threat for flash flooding. now, we're focusing in on kentucky but certainly any of these year-over-year shaded areas could have heavy rains as well. >> and gene, earlier this week it was st. louis, now kentucky. i mean, what do you think? what is causing these, you know, one in a thousand year flood events? >> well, jim, the key of course is climate change. these kiends of events are the fingerprints of climate change. a warm atmosphere holds more water, and of course that leads to these heavier rainfall events. and when we say a one in a thousand year flood event. it doesn't mean it's going to happen every thousand years. there's a good chance of it happening -- the probability is 1 in 1,000 or 0.1%. another way to think about this
is let's say you had a deck of cards, and you wanted to say what are the chance of having a 100 year flood event. that would be like pulling out the 2 of hearts from that deck. and a thousand year flood event would be like pulling out the ace of a specific suit from that deck. the problem is, jim, the deck's loaded against us. >> it certainly is. we're not getting dealt the best hand these days when it comes to our climate. gene norman, thank you very much. as we rook at these images again, some aerial images of the devastation. for more information of how you can help the victims of the kentucky flooding, please go to cnn.com/impact and do what you can. president biden in the meantime has tested positive for covid again. he had tested negative several days in a row, but got a positive antigen test result this morning. kevin liptak is at the white house for us. how is the president feeling? is he showing any symptoms at
this point? >> reporter: he says he feels fine. he says he's got no symptoms. in a letter, the white house doctor dr. kevin o'connor said he has not experienced a reemergence of the symptoms he had experienced when he had covid. this is not the news that the president really wanted after it seemed like he had been finished with his bout from covid. he tested negative on tuesday night, and he tested negative every day since then until this morning when that antigen test came back positive. now, the why house says he will isolate at the white house. they've pulled down a string of events that he had had. he was supposed to go to his house in delaware tomorrow morning, and he was also supposed to go to michigan next week. they've canceled that. now, what they're attributing this resurgence to is that antiviral paxlovid, and president biden had been taking a course of that during his initial bout with the virus, but what the white house had done is kind of down played the potential that another positive
test could come back. they said that examples of that were quite rare, but they had held out the possibility that it could happen, and so they said that they would increase the president's testing cadence after he tested negative last week. they said he would wear a tight fitting mask. he wasn't always wearing it at the white house last week, but they kept him distanced from other people. now they're trying to do some contact tracing of people he may have been in touch with, but certainly the president had been hoping to get back out there, but he will be isolating here at the white house until he tests negative again. jim. >> all right, kevin, thank you very much. and now to a cnn exclusive. new concerns about the missing secret service texts. according to multiple sources, the homeland security inspector general first learned of those missing messages back in may of 2021. that's more than a year before the inspector general of that department alerted the january 6th committee investigating the insurrection. those texts could be invaluable since according to witness testimony, the former president
fought with the secret service agents when they refused to let him go to the capitol on january 6th after his speech that day. "the washington post" also reporting texts from trump's then acting homeland security secretary, chad wolf and his top deputy ken cuccinelli, those texts are messaging as well. those messages were also sent in the days leading up to january 6th. but any lost data could be important as the january 6th committee received testimony that trump wanted the department of homeland security to seize voting machines in the aftermath of the 2020 election. and joining me now to talk about this, olivia troy, former homeland security and counterterrorism advisoer to former vice president mike pence, and jennifer rogers, a cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor. olivia, when you heard the texts from chad wolf and ken kuch kneenell were missing it sounds like the department of homeland security
is now the department of new phone, who dis? >> yeah, i've got to say, what the heck is going on over there? >> right. >> i don't understand this. and also, look, i've worked on technical migration in the u.s. government. i know the extent of the planning that goes into these things, and so i'm just -- i'm just very confused about whether it was a failure of leadership here, full incompetence or there's something more nefarious going on. i came from the department of homeland security, i know a lot of the players. there's a reason that i did not go through the official whistle-blower process through the inspector general is what i'll say when i had concerns about what i was seeing, i went public and, you know, when you work at the senior level of the trump administration, you know who a lot of these players and you know what they're capable of is what i'll say. and so i'm just -- i'm concerned. like there's communications there. i personally as an american would like to know what the communication were between any of the leadership at dhs and the
former vice president's team. you know, if i would have been my role, i would have been texting them and i would have been asking for help and wondering what was going on on january 6th and in the lead up to it. i don't know, raising a lot of questions here. >> yeah, you mentioned the inspector general there and you had mentioned that perhaps you would not have wanted to go the route of becoming a whistle-blower. do you think there should be -- that there ought to be concerns about this inspector general, the independence of this inspector general. >> he was a trump appointee and there was that time during the administration when trump was putting pressure on those inspectors general across the federal government. >> he was. he definitely was, and i know this firsthand because they actually asked a colleague of mine if they would be interested in the role actually at an intelligence agency, and we had a very serious conversation about that, and i said is this
what you want to be after a national security career? do you want to be the watchdog for the inner circle of trump, and you know it's not going to be in an impartial way. that is a real conversation that happened while inside the west wing. i think that says it all. so in terms of the i.g. at the department of homeland security, i'll say this. there has been reporting on some of the retaliation against other whistle-blowers, other sort of investigations going on in this office, and i would say that i would have serious concerns here if i were sitting in the committee or in congress in terms of this i.g.'s ability to actually conduct this very serious investigation when it comes to such a major event like january 6th and, also, it just raised a lot of concerns across homeland security in terms of in the leadup to events, what happened here, which is in my opinion not a failure of intelligence on that day because certainly all the trends were there, but it was a failure to act on the intelligence and secure the area for our
country's leadership, which we saw as all of their lives were threatened that day. >> jennifer with more and more records seemingly unaccounted for, that's what we're getting from the government right now, we don't know if that's the case, but that's what they're saying. could there be legal ramifications? >> there certainly could, jim. criminal charges are hard to bring. always the burden of proof is high. i believe the doj should be looking into this as far as destruction of evidence is concerned, and i think the president needs to take a role here, and he needs to fire this inspector general assuming that the reporting bears out. this isn't the first time that he's acted in a way that is not independent and is partisan. there have been numerous other instances over the years his firing has been called for before, and we need someone right now in that inspector general role who can actually untangle what has happened here.
so i think that both president biden should get involved by firing the inspector general, getting someone new in there, and doj needs to get involved as well. i expect a criminal investigation into all of this missing information, particularly now that we're hearing about the role of the inspector general and the fact that texas from the top two in leadership at dhs magically went missing as well. >> yeah, and jennifer, ayou add to that that trump was i guess you might describe it as documentation avert, you know, and he's being infamous for this. he doesn't email. he doesn't text. add to that apparently the white house photographer was kept out of the room when trump was watching the events unfold on january 6th. you have the gaps in the white house call logs. what does that add up to you? >> well, it's somewhat unusual that someone has such an aversion to texting and emailing and kind of putting things in writing, and what that means is if you're a prosecutor or an
investigator on the january 6th committee, you have to piece that information together another way, and one of the ways you would do that is by communications between other people who have information. so, for example, talk about cuccinelli and wolf and other people at the highest levels of not just dhs, of course, but, the secret service, the other folks in the white house, trump's aides, mark meadows, you would need to figure out what's happening by looking at the communications of all of these other people. and so that's what they're trying to do, and it obviously makes it much harder when those communications seem to have been manipulated, seem to have been destroyed. >> yeah, it's critical that the committee gets to the bottom of what is going on with all of this missing documentation. and olivia, the house minority leader kevin mccarthy, he was asked about a key conversation that he allegedly had with cassidy hutchinson leading up to the attack on the capitol. take a listen to this back and forth with manu raju about that, and i'll get your reaction on
the other side. >> cassidy hutchinson testified. >> so we're going to january 6th, go ahead. >> yes, she testified under oath -- >> you know we're in a recession, too, right? >> she testified under oath saying that you called her after donald trump said that he told his supporters that they were going to go to the capitol, and you were concerned about those remarks and said don't come up here. f figure it out. don't come up here. she said that under oath. did you tell her that, and why were you concerned about the prospect of donald trump coming to the capitol on january 6th? >> because i don't recall talking to her that day. i recall talking to dan scavino. i recall talking to jared. i recall talking to trump, that's what i talk to on television like that too, if i talked to her, i don't remember it. if it was coming up here, i don't think i wanted a lot of people coming up to the capitol, but i don't remember the conversation. >> why were you concerned specifically about trump coming to the capitol? >> i don't remember that. >> what do you think, olivia? >> wow, well, to that i would say there seem to be a lot of
republican elected officials who don't recall the conversations and phone calls they had on january 6th. we have kevin mccarthy not recalling this one. we had jim jordan not recalling how many times he called or spoke to the president on that day. i don't know, you know, i wasn't in the situation, but i can tell you this, i remember most of every moment on january 6th as i sat there and wondered if my former boss was going to make it alive that day and other people and watched this all hell break loose live on tv. so i find it interesting but not surprising given the demeanor where, you know, it was just a peaceful, you know, tourist day that day for a lot of these republican officials who behave in such a coward ice way and continue to do so. y . >> olivia troy, jennifer radiolrogers we'll continue this conversation. thanks so much for those insights. 9/11 families speak out against former pruesident trump
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right now the saudi-backed liv golf invitational is in full swing at bedminster, new jersey, at a golf course owned by donald trump. golf legend phil mickelson hit the opening tee shot yesterday but not before a heckler got this in. take a listen. >> let's go. >> do it for the saudi royal family. >> awkward. yesterday families who lost loved ones in the 9/11 terrorist attacks protested near the course just 15 miles away from the world trade center. >> my dad was a man of integrity, and someone who believed that the actions we take in this lifetime define us, but a word to mr. trump and all
of the participating golfers in this tournament, my father wasn't the type of person who could be bought, and i just want you to know that if you were there that day, my father would have run in to save you without a second thought. >> i see these golfers dodge questions, put their head in the sand, not want to confront us. not want to address our issues and just say golf is for the greater good or i'm doing this for my family, well, my dad went to work that day providing for his d got blown away, and if we can't get a golfer to at least look us in the eye and tell us that money don't give a shit about the atrocities of saudi arabia, they're cowards. >> joining us now is cnn sports analyst and sports columnist for usaa today, we heard the outrage from 9/11 families, justifiably so. are we hearing anything at all from these golfers defending themselves for participating in this tournament. what are they saying? >> it's almost like a script has been handed to them from mbs.
i've covered and asked questions of the golfers at the u.s. open in boston and the other day i went up for a day, and you ask and they say we have empathy for the 9/11 families. we feel so sorry for them. two or three sentences and then one golfers paul casey said, i got to go run and do a photo shoot. it's say a couple things, sound nice, and get the heck out of there, and it is exactly what sports watching is all about. basically do what the saudis tell you to do, take the money and run. >> yeah, almost out of a -- like a scene from bull durham or something when they used to feed the pitchers and the players the canned comments to make to the sports casters. and then trump when he was asked to defend all of this made this ridiculous remark, just a disgusting remark that we haven't been able to get to the bottom of 9/11. i mean, this is just a -- this is a debacle. >> it is. so that was thursday. i was there wednesday, as you know, you've been to bedminster. it's trump, everything trump, and he is in his glory. the idea that he -- >> i didn't get into the golf
course, i should say. they kept me on the outer perimeter. please continue. >> you didn't miss much. it is not one of the world's great golf courses, not at all, but this is all trump. so of course he's there. of course he's making a big scene, and he has to justify, i guess, in his brain why he's there and why this is okay. so he says the complete opposite of of course of what he said when he was running for president. that we have to get to the bottom of this. of course we know 15 of the 19 hijackers, jim, as you well know and the viewers know were saudi arabian and osama bin laden himself was saudi. so that's what we know, and then you have, of course, the murder and dismemberment of jamal khashoggi as well. it's awful, and the fact that this is 50 miles from ground zero, an hour's drive, it is just as they say salt in the wound, razor blades in the wound for these families, but also good for them for protesting. they came out and had a press conference. they've also protested, and they're certainly making the
point known and bringing up issues that probably a lot of people had pushed back out of their mind. maybe the saudis are getting a little more than they thought they would bargain for with the negative publicity they're getting. >> it's appalling and the wall street journal is reporting that it's been lightly attended. the tickets are not selling for as high of a price as you might suspect. do you think it's possible that this liv golf thing overtakes the pga? is it going to rival the pga in any sort of serious way, or is this just an act of desperation by the saudis to try to, i don't know, find some good pr somewhere? >> yeah, in sports watching 101. >> sports watching. >> ten of the top 50 men's golfers in the world rankings have gone to liv golf. most of them are not the ones people keep an eye on, except brooks koepka, bryson dechambeau, phil mickelson, 52 years old, certainly it's kind of the kick back and exhibition style golf these guys want to do at this point in their life.
will it -- it's certainly making an impact. the pga tour is responding and trying to do its best to keep these guys. i think, you know, you look at the comments of rory mcilroy and tiger woods saying no way would they do this. they want real competition. as you know, this is not real -- there's no cut. this is exhibition style, basically no name kind of goofy golf, and so they want the real deal with the pga tour. but moving forward absolutely. there's going to have to be some kind of conversation. it's all about the money, take the money and run. i think we wouldn't even be having this conversation, jim, if who was bank rolling this was bill gates or melinda gates, if jeff bezos was bank rolling this, we wouldn't have even this conversation. the fact is the saudis are throwing this kind of money, the business model is there's no business model. just throw hundreds of millions of dollars at these guys and see if you can get them to be your pr machine, and so far it is working. >> and the former president of
the united states if he's not in enough trouble already, attaching his name to something like this, it's just reprehensible. thank you very much. supreme court justice sam alito lets loose on critics of his roe versus wade decision, overturning roe versus wade, what does it say about the status of the court today? that's coming up. it listens, , learns, adapts and anticipates your every n need. with intntelligence... that feels anything but artificial. the eqs from mercedes-benz. it's the car electric has been waiting for. i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. with skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 mont... and skyrizi is jus4 doses a year, afte2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions
supreme court decision in the history of that institution that has been lambasted by a whole string of foreign leaders. one of these was former prime minister boris johnson, but he paid the price. what really wounded me was when the duke of sussex addressed the united nations and seemed to compare the decision whose name may not be spoken with the russian attack on ukraine. >> cnn's supreme court reporter ariane de vogue joins me now. alito made these very sarcastic remarks while speaking at the notre dame law school religious liberty summit in rome. this almost soubd like his vegas act or something, he was telling jokes and so on. how surprising was this? what did you make of this? >> it was unusual, there he is
on foreign soil, and he was there to make this major speech on religious liberty, and in fact, he diverted and for the first time brought up this landmark decision that he wrote a month ago, and he chose to go after the foreign leaders who had krit scriticized it so he mentioned emmanuel macron from france and justin trudeau from canada, and then you heard those comments of boris johnson where he's sort of making fun of the resignation and then even to go after prince harry. now, listen, i talked to somebody who was there with him, who say the media is making too much, that this was just wisecracks, but the fact remains, it's the very first comments he has made about this landmark decision, the most important decision in decades. it's really changed the landscape of women's reproductive health, and the issue still a month later here is still very raw. so a lot of people question that, question why on foreign soil he would go after foreign lead e, rs. but it is worth noting that the
bulk of his speech was on religious liberty. he talks a lot about religious protections, and you may have put listening to that speech that he thought somehow religious liberty was in danger at the supreme court level, and it is not. alito and the other members of this conservative court have really issued opinions, particularly last term protecting the rights of religious conservatives. a lot of people wondered why in this speech on religious liberty he chose to sort of make fun of, mock these foreign leaders, jim. >> yeah, i mean, there's nothing light hearted about this monumental abortion decision, i mean, for the millions of women who are dealing with this issue here back in the united states. i just want to ask you, you know, amy coney barrett who said publicly she doesn't want the court to be seen as partisan hacks, and liberal justice sonia sotomayor stressed that even
though they often disagree on the law, they still like each other. let's listen to that. >> i think one of the wonders of being on the supreme court is my knowing that every single one of my colleagues is equally passionate about the constitution, our system of government, and getting it right as i am. we may disagree on how to get there, and we often do, but that doesn't mean that i look at them and say you're bad people. i accept that it is a difference of opinion. i'm going to work very hard to try to convince them to look at it my way and to correct their wrong -- >> ditto. >> ariane, some of that sounds a little bit like wishful thinking, does it not? or maybe it's beside the point how well they're getting along with one another, how their relationships are going when you have a very hard right,
determined hard right court that appears to be intent on upending a lot of what has been established law for decades in this country. (. >> well, right, that was their first public event together in a speaking event, and no question about it, particularly sotomayor, all the justices, they talk on and on about their civility, maybe separating themselves a little bit from the other branches of government. how that they are always civil to each other. but let's be honest here in front of the cameras, justice sonia sotomayor, she is talking about civility. but when you read what she says in her opinions and what she says from the bench, you can tell she is worried about this court. there are tensions on the court. for instance, during oral arguments in that abortion case back in december, she basically said, look, the only reason we are looking at roe v. wade again is solely because of the change of the composition of this court suggesting it was political, and she said how are we going to get rid of that stench? another time she called the
conservatives restless conser conservatives. so to be clear, they believe in civility. they talk about civility, but this court right now, these are very tense times. you can say all that she wants about civility, but that doesn't hide what's going on, and other justices too, conservatives, they're worried about the court. for instance clarence thomas was very worried about the leak of that draft opinion. we saw chief justice john roberts in ha abthat abortion c he felt like his conservative colleagues had gone too far in overturning roe that they had lost the idea of judicial rest restraint. this is a time that this court, with its public opinion plummeting, they are concerned and they are worried. >> all right, ariane de vogue, thank you so much. we appreciate those insights. coming up, what goes up must come down, but when it's debris from a 23-ton chinese rocket, it is times anyone's guess where it will land. those details next. you're live in the cnn newsroom.
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now to some out of this world fallout, the world braced for the aftermath of an out of control piece of space debris belonging to china. a 23 ton booster from this chinese rocket fell to earth over the indian ocean, according to u.s. space command. sky watchers on social media have been posting some pretty remarkable videos of what some experts believe could be images of the rocket booster burning up in the atmosphere over malaysia. cnn cannot confirm the voracity of the images, but take a look. >> wow. i can nnot believe it. >> this uncontrolled descent marks the third time that china's been accused of not properly handling space debris from its rocket stage, and former nasa astronaut leroy chow
joins me now. leroy, thank you so much for being with us, great having you on. what are you hearing about where these pieces of this fallen booster landed, and i mean, what do you make of some of these images? could those images be that booster coming back into earth? >> certainly could be. it's hard to tell. from my understand i ing, the pieces of debris hit somewhere in the indian ocean. probably no big chunks made it to land. hopefully that's the case. having said that, this is going to happen every time that china uses their long march 5 rocket. it's designed to work this way and because of that design, you're going to have this large booster that is going to enter the atmosphere unpredictably every time. >> how dangerous is this booster's out of control descent? i mean, you know, that's what we were talking to an expert about in the previous hour of this program, and that is, you know, it seems as though this is sort of like firing a gun into the air not knowing where the bullet
will land. >> well, that's pretty much exactly what it is. it is not the ideal way to design your trajectory, to design your rocket. the chances of it hitting something, you know, of value or, you know, damaging or hurting people is pretty small, but it's not zero, and so nobody else designs their trajectories this way. this is just, you know, not really the way that you want to do it. so other ways, for example, the space shuttle. large pieces of the external tank would enter the atmosphere, but it was always designed, the trajectories were such that we knew where the debris would land well away from shipping lanes and, you know, places where it's not going to cause any damage. >> is there anything that the u.s. could do to stop china from putting people and property at risk like this? i mean, you know, the chinese are -- they do have a knack for requiring technology in other realms and perhaps in the remming of space technology. why can't they get their act together on this? >> well, i mean, it wasn't --
it's not really not getting their act together. they just, you know, to put it bluntly, they didn't really care. they found an efficient way to get their large pieces of payload into orbit, and as a consequence, they're going to have this debris, they could have designed a rocket differently. they could have another stage, two smaller stages would have burned up or the upper stage could have been put into a graveyard orbit, so there are a lot of things that could have been done. now the rocket's designed, i don't see them scrapping that design. i don't see them going back and saying, oh, yeah, maybe we should have done it differently and design a new rocket. >> all right, well, retired nasa astronaut leroy chow, thanks for barackin breaking it down for us. hopefully no serious problems as a result of this one coming back to earth. thank you for your time, we appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, monsters of the cape. after dozens of great white sightings, a shark week expert
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they must have heard it was shark week because in the last few days dozens of great white sharks have been spotted off of cape cod, and tonight on our sister network, discovery, we'll see experts diving right in and testing cutting edge ways to keep beachgoers and the sharks safe. here's a preview of shark week's "monsters of the cape." >> since i was a kid i heard stories about monsters in cape cod.
the locals called them man eaters, surfers spoke about the curious beasts filled with teeth, while sailors recalled the colossal creatures with ravenous appetites. summer after summer, i returned to find them, but they were gone, but then one day i had heard the great whites had returned. now they're swarming in astonishing numbers. >> another shark attack in cape cod today. >> and now the beaches of the cape are filled with fear. >> get out! >> all right, joining us now is craig o'connell. he is a shark biologist, one of the shark week presenters and the founders of the oc's conservation foundation. thanks so much for joining us, craig. we appreciate it.
in this clip we just saw swarms of great white sharks suddenly returning in huge numbers to cape cod. do we know why that's happening? >> so there's a lot of things that are actually changing in the northwest atlantic ocean. we protected the great white sharks prey, and we've also protected the great white sharks, so now their population is recovering, and here's the thing in cape cod, there's an abundance of seals right along the shoreline. when there's an abun dance of prey along the shoreline, the predators are right there following. that's the great white shark. >> and you and your team have been diving in cape cod, working on shark deterrents trying to keep the water safe for people and sharks. i didn't think this existed. what does that work look like and i guess how is it having an impact? >> it's pretty amazing work, and it's to me, this is a key part of the episode. we are breaking new boundaries. we didn't even know if we'd be
able to dive in the waters of cape cod. these white sharks are feeding in the exact same area. so we broke the boundary, we got in the water outside the cage, and we're testing two new noninvasive technologies. one of them is known as the exclusion barrier, and the exclusion barrier targets a shark's visual system and their electrosensory system, and the goal for that system or that barrier is it's going to be deployed from shoreline to shoreline, sea floor to sea surface, and it's going to be this continuous barrier that's going to protect the beach, protect the people and also protect the sharks, and we're also trying a new technology that uses sound. sound as a way to deter sharks very quickly, and we're hoping that using sound it will give someone that may be a swimmer in distress, it will give them enough time to get ouft of the water and into safety. we are doing a lot of work. it's been very, very promising, and this fall we're going back to cape cod to run some more trials. >> best of luck on that.
the movie -- speaking of sounds, the movie "jaws" was famously filmed off of cape cod. nobody will forget that sound track, the score of that movie. how is that movie -- how has it shaped public perception of great whites, even to this day? >> that movie did a lot of damage in the sense that it made people terrified of sharks, but on the other side of the coin, it also sparked some fascination in people because they wanted to see what was really out there. ask and for me i was terrified of sharks because of that movie and for a lot of other reasons. then i got in the water. i saw a shark for the very first time, i was expecting it to eat me, just like it did in jaws, and that shark couldn't have been more peaceful. it was super curious and swam right by and did its thing, and at that very moment it made me so fascinated with sharks, and i wanted to change everyone's opinion on what these animals truly are. they're amazing creatures and
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like utilizing incarcerated people, period. it's like we were firefighters before, we came home, we should be able to do it again. >> if there's any job where you want to be like you want to do it and you have the skills, like come on. this would be the job. >> no. yeah, no. >> firefighters probably like the most respected career in the country, right? so when you talk about like formerly incarcerated people who are transitioning into a space of like the highest regard, a lot of people just don't want to see us in the space. we're black folks, we're formerly incarcerated people. we're already out here. we've been protecting your homes for the past three years when i was locked up. >> and be sure to tune in. "united shades of america" airs tomorrow night at 10:00 right here on cnn. you're live in the cnn newsroom, i'm jim acosta in washington. we begin with the mud, misery, and fear for the missing in eastern kentucky right now, historic flooding has killed at
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