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track to pass a major part of the biden administration. it would represent the largest climate investment in u.s. history and make big changes to healthcare policy. republicans are fighting gagaint it right now, but it appears that all 50 democrats are on the same page. si sinema offered her support this week. jessica dean is on capitol hill for us. we've learned there has been some pretty serious movement. i guess getting this ball down the field. what's happened? >> absolutely. get it rolling. this is breaking news that we've just gotten in the last five minutes or so. that is that we have bill text and we have a ruling or the congressional budget office has come back and said this is all good, that they can move forward. so now what we're expecting is for chuck schumer to go to the senate floor and make some
remarks and begin this first step. they're using a special budget process. the first step will be a motion to receive that requires just a simple majority. all 50 senate democrats are on board. that will really kick things off and it will be 20 hours of debate on both sides up to 20 hours of debate. then they go into something called a votorama. hours and hours of voting on amendments before final passage. the bottom line here is we are moving forward after really languishing during the day. but we see this moving forward. it remains to be seen exactly how long this will take, but we expect for this to pass through the senate within the next several many hours. could go into the early morning hours of tomorrow. again, jim, just reminding people a little bit about what's in this bill. the biggest investment in climate provisions that's ever
come out of the u.s. senate in this. they also have some healthcare provisions that would extend affordable care act subsidies and allow medicare to negotiate the price of some drugs moving forward. then some tax provisions. corporate minimum and 1% excise tax on stock buybacks. so a variety of things in here that senate democrats didn't know they would get when these talks broke down this summer. they didn't know they'd get the climate provisions or the tax provisions. so we'll see how this all plays out, but right now, the big news is it is moving forward. we do have movement after kind of just a holding pattern all afternoon. >> all right, we'll be watching. we know you will as well and we're looking at a like picture of the senate as they get set for this vote-a-rama. they're going to be working through amendments to get to final passage.
let's talk about this with ruben gallego. i was wondering if you could take stock of this moment for the biden administration, for president biden, for democrats. we've seen this agenda stalled time and again and you know, a lot of folks here in washington are tempted to parse through the politics of the situation, but there's a massive amount of money dedicated to fight climate change in this. there's also investments in keeping obama care going for people who rely on this program. just wondering if you can take stock of what this means for the president and democrats. >> the president and democrats are on the role. we've passed the chips act. in this president and with the congress and the senate, we're going to do it. we're going to have a major investment in climate change
legislation. going to be able to bring down the cost of medicine for our seniors and we're expanding the subsidies for affordable healthcare. this is a big, big victory for us and we're going to be able to lead into this election with these great victories. >> now i'll ask you a little bit of politics. you've been -- you've been pretty critical of kirsten sinema in the past for blocking. she has been blocking key miss pieces of the biden agenda. were you surprised to see her backing this bill, deciding to get on board? what did you think of that? >> wasn't surprised. i think she recognized that if she did that, it would potentially put her at risk for supporting the future from voters. but it did surprise me at the end that her one sticking point was her trying to protect very
rich hedge fund managers that don't really exist in arizona. if that's what you want to fight for, what you need to vote for this bill, then i think it's appropriate and we'll do it. definitely never going to let, could be the perfect or opposite way around. at a minimum, we're going to pass these bills that are really going to help people's lives. >> are you still considering, now that sinema's on board with this legislation, does that tamp down your potential interest in running against her in a primary challenge in 2024? what do you think? >> no. doesn't tamp down. i always give credit where credit is due. there's still some outstanding questions that i'm going to have to talk to arizonans about. f for example, the fact she won't break the filibuster to protect
roe v. wade. standing up for hedge fund managers and the ultra rich. those are the kind of conversations i'm going to start having next year after this election's done and we'll see where it takes us. >> and on the other side of the aisle, i mean we have cpac. to talk about as well. the big conservative gathering that's taking place in dallas. we're just now seeing the results of today's informal cpac straw poll on 2024 and you know, political scientists will caution that you can't always take these straw polls to the bank, but it's sort of a sign along the highway en route to 2024 as to where the enthusiasm is on the part of the republican party and it says that trump has 69% of the support there at cpac. that's up ten points from cpac's february straw poll. florida governor ron desantis is back in the pack at 24%.
finishes in second there. and then there's really nobody else on the radar screen in this straw poll. just wandering what your take is. it does sound like this party, the republican party, is still very much in the grip of the former president. >> certainly look at the results in arizona where we elected a whack a doodle candidate that wants to arrest election officials for what she deems as fraud. we have another guy who is a fake cowboy down to his fake boots who claims there's a bunch of fraud and can't prove it. and you're talking about a group called cpac that just invited prime minister orban, who openly said that mixed race countries are a problem. so we're dealing with a very, very cooky group of people. a weird group of people supporting donald trump. i don't think it's representative of all
republicans, but you know, i think it is what we have to accept. they will have power over the republican party at least for the next four years. >> all right. congressman, we're going to go to the senate floor right now. thanks so much for your time. let's go to the senate floor and listen to the majority leader, chuck schumer, on the developing climate and tax bill that's making its way through. >> and it will reduce, reduce the deficit. it will help every citizen in this country and make america a much better place. the time is now. to move forward with big, bold package for the american people. to fight inflation and make it easier for people to afford everything from trips to the doctors office to trips to the pharmacy. to hold drug companies accountable and empower medicare to negotiate the cost of prescription drugs. to help families pay their
utilities with the boldest clean emergency package in history. to make sure that nurses and teachers and firefighters and middle class families don't pay more in taxes than the billion dollar corporations. to reduce pollution. restore our coastlines. protect our forests. and deliver to our children and grandchildren, a planet they deserve. again, the time is now to move forward with a big, bold package for the american people. and again, this historic bill will reduce inflation, lower costs, fight climate change. it's time to move this nation forward. senate democrats began this majority by promising to tackle the biggest challenges facing our country. the inflation reduction act will
make good on that promise and serve as the capstone to one of the most productive stretches the senate has seen in a very long time. and in the end, it will be the american people who benefit from the work we do here and now. >> all right. there's the senate majority leader, chuck schumer, on this bill that's passing through the senate right now. there's a vote-a-rama taking place as they cycle through some amendments. we're going to keep tabs on it. get back to our colleagues throughout the next several hours and we'll bring you the latest developments as they come in, but that piece of legislation is expected to get to the finish line sometime over the next several hours. we'll keep you posted on that. coming up, dick cheney with a scathing warning about donald trump. why he's calling trump a coward. . but for someone to be able to work from here,
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dick cheney is voicing his deep opposition to donald trump in a new ad that's gone viral. >> he tried to steal the last election using lies and violence to keep himself in power after the voters had rejected him. he's a coward. a real man wouldn't lie to his supporters. he lost this election and he lost big. >> cheney recorded the ad for his daughter, liz cheney, who is facing a deep re-election fight because of her role on the january 6th committee. joining me now to talk about this is former republican senator from maine. secretary cohen, always great to speak with you. last year, you joined dick cheney and other defense secretaries in condemning those who would not accept the results of the 2020 election. what's your reaction to what cheney is saying now? >> i agree wholeheartedly with
what he's saying today. it's a bit ironic because a few years ago when dick was in office, he was characterized as darth vader. he's gone now from darth vader to yoda and yoda has been the one who would say that fear lead to a number of things. the path of fear leads to anger. anger leads to hatred. hatred to suffering and we saw that all play out on january 6th. so i think dick cheney has called it right, that donald trump is a danger to this country and a coward for not facing up to the facts. for not accepting the truth of what is happening and being unwilling to admit he lost fair and square. so now it's just kind of rolling in the self-pity, grievance, and hatred. that's what's being promoted at cpac today and in the past. so i think dick cheney is right.
i hope he can help his daughter. not sure that there are enough left in the republican party who would listen to his appeal, but i'm hopeful. >> during the nixon years, a republican house member wrote -- the tapes during watergate, wanted accountability in that scandal. we should point out this just came in. trump just won the cpac straw poll in dallas with some 69%. of course it's not a scientific poll. it's kind of more of a measuring st stick, but that is a ten-point jump from the last poll despite everything we've learned. >> it really doesn't surprise me. what is taking place in this country is really quite dangerous. we are moving closer and closer to a fascist form of government where we no longer belief in the rule of law. this is one of the things that really separated out the
conservative party to say is we believe in law and order, but the emphasis being on law especially. and our party today, republican party, does not believe in the rule of law. they have ignored what took place on capitol hill. as many as 30% of the party in polls say that violence is an acceptable form of april speech, action. the fascist party in italy and george will, a very conservative columnist has written an important piece in "the washington post" which summarizes an article showing how musolini grabbed up power in italy and then what he did by having his black shirts, so-called guards as such, carry out violence against anyone who would speak ill of anyone in the party. so we're headed in that direction unless we believe and commit ourselves to the rule of
law and i, at this point, don't think the party is headed in that direction. just the opposite. >> i want to follow up on something you just said. i know it's a lot for you to say this as a former republican senator, former republican member of the house of representatives. you believe the republican party is embracing fascism? >> we're close to embracing it. if you don't accept the rule of law, if you think that violence, that attack on capitol hill is acceptable as a form of political expression, then you are heading this that direction where you have one man control. you have allegiance being paid to a man who may be indicted for having organized a multipronged attack upon our electoral system and if you sew enough disbelief for our present system, you are
opening the door for a fascist form of thinking where we pledge allegiance not to the constitution, the rule of law, but to the rule of man who stands for just the opposite. i think we're in danger of going down that path and i want to say to dick cheney, thank you for speaking out. thank you for standing up as well as for your daughter and for us. for the country. it's the one thing that holds a country that believes in diversity, rationally, ethnically, together is the rule of law as to countries like russia, by way of example. and you see the difference in what's taking place there and how president trump, when he was president, almost sat in the lap of putin. he invited putin, an enemy of the united states, an adversary at the very least, into our electoral system. our entire intelligence community said he did. but then president trump said no, i believe putin. and so he is a want to be putin.
i think he will bring putinism to the potomac and i think that's a real danger for everyone in this country. >> i wanted to ask you about the mission that took out the terrorist al-zawahiri, one of to people responsible for 9/11. of course the u.s. took out that terrorist earlier this week. somebody that the u.s. had been hunting for for 21 years. but you know, despite what should be recognized as universally as an overwhelming success for the military, the intelligence community and bringing him to justice, taking him out, the mission was met with sneers and sahr chasm by the far right. >> tonight, biden gave a speech boa boasting he's killed an al qaeda
figure. he was killed in afghanistan. they have been rapidly gaining ground since biden abandoned the country. as a result, the world is a much more dangerous place. >> you know when the u.s. got bin laden, there were celebrations in the street. there was unity. what is it say about where we are as a country where you see this very different response from the far right to taking out a major terrorist? >> it's interesting that the same people citing this as a failure calling it into question are the same folks praising putin and orban. saying gee, why aren't we on the side of the russians? they have the weapons. they have the money, the oil. why are we on their side instead of the side of ukrainians. it's because we believe in
democracy and freedom and the rule of law is why. so i don't put much stock in what they're saying. they have a very strong following and i think that's the reason where you side with the putins of the world. you side with the orbans of the world. and just interesting. orban comes to the cpac and says i'm against race mixing. wonder how that's playing in one of the support households as he's speaking to the conservative movement? something i suspect is causing some discomfort in at least one household. >> all right. former defense secretary, thanks for your time. appreciate it. coming up, it's so hot in certain parts of the united states right now, there are concerns about ups drivers being stuck in their trucks with no air conditioners. we'll talk about that next with bill weir.
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a hotter than normal weekend is on the horizon for most of the u.s. more than 55 million people are under heat alerts. the pacific northwest could see triple digit temperatures on sunday and a bizarre weather event killed three people a couple of days ago in washington, d.c. lightning hit a tree across from the white house on thursday. just an awful situation where some people were taking shelter from the storm. we have more from tom foreman. >> reporter: in a flash, the summer's wild weather struck again. lightning hitting just across from the white house, critically
inju injuring four people. >> it came this close to us and we were going, whoa. >> reporter: three of those who fell have now died including donna and james mueller, grandparents from wisconsin celebrating their 56th wedding anniversary. >> oh, no. >> whoa, look at [ bleep ]. >> reporter: coast to coast and many places in between, the weather keeps raging. causing floods in some places, wildfires in others and soaring temperatures for tens of millions. >> those are pretty intense lightning storm. just happened to take a peek outside after the rain stopped. noticed the water had gotten up to the bottom of the step. >> reporter: the heat has not spared even some places where floods have roared and threats hang over places like kentucky where thousands lost their homes to high water. so, everybody be weather aware.
the ground is really saturated. >> reporter: amid that, an updated prediction from the national o-- despite a slow start, this atlantic hurricane season will likely produce an above average number of storms. federal authorities say they are pleased at how they've been able to respond to all these disasters so far, but they note if the number in severity keep growing, it could become a bigger challenge and with climate change, they fear it might. tom foreman, cnn, washington. as the nation contends with soaring temperatures, the bill the senate just approved was on the verge of approving aims to address the climate crisis, but there are tradeoffs. it would be the biggest climate investment in u.s. history with $369 billion set aside to combat global warming including consumer tax credits on electric vehicles, solar panels and energy efficient water heaters. but there are also billions in
tax credits to fossil fuel companies to encourage them to invest in clean energy manufacturing. for the next decade, any new wind or solar energy protection on federal land can only be approved if a new lease is approved for oil and gas drilling as well. joining me now is bill weir. bill, you know, the sausage is being made as we speak here in washington and there was plenty of horse trading along the way. that's the best i can do to use some cliches here in washington. they're trading cows for chickens at this point. what do you think of this bill? that is a massive number. we were pointing this out earlier. in climate money being spent to get this under control. >> right. well, if you look at the original dream farm that joe biden had ran on full of chickens and pigs and cows and all these different programs, the climate piece of the barn
actually held pretty close to the original intent and a lot of folks, there is some heartburn for the one leasing stipulation. bernie sanders in particular. hates that. but practical terms, those leases may not even be ever drilled or fracked. maybe a small percentage of them will, but all the carrots to incentivize electrifying every part of your life. from your car to your commute to your dinner, how you cook, heat and cool your house. they think the demand will come down as a result of all that clean energy going on to the market. there's a lot of real optimism from climate hawks who are just near depression, you know, deep depression, a week ago, who thought joe manchin was going to kill this all together. but they think this is a real inflection point. like the starting gun of a race to an industrial revolution 2.0.
a study out of the the university of massachusetts says it can create ten million jobs and those are tied to prevalent wages. some in oil and gas wants to go into wind or solar, geo thermal, they have to make the same amount of money to make that switch. so a lot of enthusiasm from the climate folks. this spends about $40 billion a year. it's the most ambitious ever. exxon and chevron and shell, they made $40 billion last quarter. a record profit. so it's still a long way to go before renewables are able to compete with that but this is a sp start. >> alarming situation in death valley national park. people are stranded. this just goes to show you the climate crisis not just about drier, hotter weather. you have to contend with these kinds of weather calamities as well. we saw it in kentucky last week. it's just happening more and
more often and in weird places. i would not think of this happening here in death valley. >> exactly. again, it's underscores the idea that a warmer atmosphere holds more moisture and makes any sort of weather event more intense. even in the hottest, driest place on earth. a thousand people stranded. these are the southwest monsoons. this is normal, but when the drought is so intense, the dirt is so baked into powder basically. there's no absorbtion. what's really striking, jim, this is death valley national park. we're worried about fires getting into the grove of yosemite. yellowstone shut down by those floods earlier in the summer. the tourist industry there is super stressed out. so our national parks, our crown jewels, we've seen just proving
to us that these are different days. >> yeah, we go to our national parks to get away from our problems. not to have more problems. and right now, i mean, this is also alarming. more than 55 million people across the u.s. are under heat alerts. we're seeing cities hit 110 or 115 degrees and then there's this shocking video of a ups driver collapsing in front of a home in arizona amid soaring temperatures of more than 100 degrees there. yes, it gets hot in arizona. but put this in perspective for our viewers. >> that's this whole heat stress idea and we look at what this costs. the cost of inaction takes a toll out of gdp. it's examples just like that. and my street here in brooklyn, these guys are out in 95 degree heat putting in belgian block cobblestones in the street. i weep for them every time i walk by there. it gets down to healthcare costs and emergency room visits.
it's a toll on so many things down the line and the science shows us that by the middle of the century, you'll feel like your city has moved about 500 miles south. so cooling centers and city planning and all of these things are going to add up more and more. it's interesting, john thune was just on the floor of the senate sort of taking shots at this bill. the climate bill. saying there's a billion and a half dollars in there for tree canopy studies. well, these days a lot of people think more shade would be a good thing given the extremes between dark asphalt and any kind of green space. so those examples and you're seeing that not just here, but around the world. if it's not bad in the most developed countries, imagine how it is in india and china going through a lot of the same heat problems. >> no question about it. thanks for covering the climate crisis for us. it's just invaluable. appreciate it. please come back anytime. thanks again. >> thanks.
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some exclusive new cnn reporting to tell you about. lawyers for donald trump are said to be speaking directly with the justice department as its criminal investigation into january 6th ramps up. the talks are said to center around whether trump can use executive privilege to shield conversations he had as president from federal investigators. his team has warned him indictments are possible. >> my guess is that by the end of this process, you're going to see indictments involving high level people in the white house. you're going to see indictments against people outside the white house who were advising them with regard to the attempt to steal the election.
and i think ultimately, you're probably going to see the former president of the united states indicted as well. >> and cnn senior legal analyst, elie honig, joins me now. great to have you on again. here's what a trump spokesman said about this issue of executive privilege. how can any future president ever have private conversations with his attorneys and others if any such advisers forced can be forced to reveal those privileged confidential discussions? that's trump there speaking. i guess putting the hyperbole to the side there, that is the argument he's going to use i guess you know, a skreeptic mig say when you try to do a coup, shouldn't they go out the window? >> the trump statement gets the
first half of the law which is that certain communications relating to certain policy and strategy, military affairs, national security, foreign and domestic policy, those are protected, but conversations about wrong doing are not protected under the law. and this is why doj has an important decision to make here. are they going to fight to get those communications because the downside for doj is it takes time. we have seen these executive privilege fights in the courts take as long as two years and the shortest is about three or four months. the report is that doj is gearing up for those fights so that tells me they're crucial enough even at the cost of several months passing. >> do you have any questions as to whether or not the justice department would hold back if he ran for president? would that be a shield from prosecution that he could use here? >> legally, not at all. legally, it donald trump announces his candidacy tomorrow, it means absolutely
nothing. we've heard merrick garland say it will no impact on my decision. good for him for saying that, he should say that. but the reality is once donald trump does announce, if he does, that does complicate the past politically and practically for doj because while it's clear the doj is focusing on and around the white house, they did not do that for the first 18 months of their investigation. that time is gone. they can't get it back and now if you're talking about doj having to get a jury, 12 people unanimously to convict a former president for the first time in history, that's complicated. now if you up the stakes to a declared candidate, a front-runner, perhaps ooeeven t nominee, that makes it more difficult. i think they're going about this the right way, but i think they've handicapped themselves by the slowness of their pace. >> apparently, trump has been avised to stop talking to mark
meadows. we know how well trump takes the advice of his lawyers. what do you think is important about that? >> i would say to donald trump listen to your lawyers. he's not going to listen to me because he doesn't even listen to his own lawyers. that's really sound advice, actually. first of all, he has a history of witness tampering. almost can't help himself. going through the mueller investigation, ukraine, impeachment. i would say don't even speak with anyone. there's no evidence that meadows has flipped, zero. however, people change their minds and if meadows or anybody flips in the future, these conversations become fair game. >> i think it's safe to say. in the trail of january 6th text
messages, the deleted messages, it now stretches to officials at the pentagon. homeland security can't find texts of then acting secretary chad wolf and his top deputy there. there's a seven-hour gap in the white house call logs, the diary. reports of documents being burned by the white house chief of staff. documents were being flushed down the white house toilets. torn up so they had to be taped back together. boxes of classified material being taken to mar-a-lago, on and on. at some point, you just sound silly. chalking this up to a coincidence. it's just, i'm sorry. we can't talk about coincidences anymore. >> it's remarkable when you lay it out. i'm no longer willing to chalk this up to a coincidence. it is clear to me that somebody, and we're talking about different entities. department of defense, dhs, which houses secret service, the
white house. all perhaps independently, perhaps not, made some calculation of this evidence relating to january 6sth, it's going to be bad so let's not create it or let it float into the ether. this is what the committee and doj really need to dig into. first of all, can they recover any of this evidence? some may be recoverable and then second, how did this happen? who's making these decisions because it reflects really poorly and could be something quite a bit worse than a coincidence. >> thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> thanks, jim. coming up, anne heche burned after her car crashed into a home in l.a. details on the accident ahead. you woworked hard to save for my future. so n now... i want to thank yo. i started investing with vanguard to help take care of you,
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actress anne hasche is in critical condition. she has severe burns and lucky to be alive. it's not clear why her car struck the home. police have been unable to question her because of her injuries and hache is known for his work in films like "six days and seven nights" and "wag the dog." we are discovering extraordinary creatures, many of which are
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