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good morning. i'm erica hill in for jim and poppy today. welcome to a holiday edition of "newsroom." we're following several stories on this labor day of the right now in canada, a major manhunt under way after at least ten people were killed, up to 25 stabbed in all. a heinous murder spree covering more than a dozen crime scenes. officials are warning the two suspects are on the run. they should be considered armed and dangerous. following that story for you, we're keeping a very busy eye on the campaign trail here in the u.s. minutes from now president biden will depart for a pair of major events in two critical battleground states, wisconsin and back to pennsylvania. the president set to speak to american workers in milwaukee later today and then it's off to pittsburgh where we'll speak with a group of steel workers. the trip, of course, coming just days after pieden's predecessors told pennsylvanians that the current president quote is an enemy of the state. let's begin in canada with cnn's
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paula newton with more on this manhunt and also more information on the attacks. paula? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, erica. unfortunately in the last hour the police chief in regina, saskatchewan, about three and a half hours from where these crimes took place, believed to be the last sighting of the suspects. the update from the police chief there not good. he says look, at this point these suspects have not been apprehended, and more than that he's clearly reaching out to the public to give them tips as to the whereabouts of these suspects which suggest that they do not have a lot of leads coming in at this time, and just to recap, again, this could end up being one of the worst mass killings in canadian history. two suspects now still on the run, miles and damion sanderson. i will point out that there's no identify if they are related in any way, and they also don't have clear motives for what have been absolutely grotesque and vicious attacks, both targeted police say and ran do.
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they have a lot of law enforcement on this right now. alerts are out in a vast area. we're talking an area that covers thousands of kilometers, and yet the closest thing they have to clues is the fact that a person in the public apparently called in a tip that they may have seen the suspects in regina, again, three and a half hours from where these crimes originally took place. that was around midday yesterday, and nothing since. i also want to point out that the prime minister justin trudeau is keeping tabs on this and looking at this quite carefully. yesterday he released a statement saying as this is an unfolding situation, i enurge everyone in the area to listen to the advice of law enforcement, to take shelter and follow the proper precautions. those responsible for today's abhorrent attacks must be fully prout to justice. the issue here, as you can hear it even in the prime minister's tone, people are being told to be careful, that these suspects are armed and dangerous, that if they are spotted to move away from wherever they are and call police.
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erica? >> paula newton, thanks for the update. back in the u.s., a holiday, certainly no reason for a break from politics. there you see that should tell you the president is getting ready to go somewhere. in fact, any moment the president is set to leave for his first campaign stop. today he's headed to milwaukee, wisconsin. cnn's jeremy diamond joining us from the north lawn. what are we expecting to hear? will it be more from the president, more of what he was talking about in philadelphia last week? >> reporter: well, listen, erica. we've heard president biden begin to lay out his -- the crux of his mid-term campaign message over the last couple of weeks, and there have been two central messages. the first one is the one that you are mentioning in philadelphia where the president is talking about the threats to democracy going after maga republicans and the like, and the second message though is the one that i think we're going to hear more of today, and that is a message focused on the economic successes of president biden and what he believes he's been able to deliver to the
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american people, the legislative successes over the last month, including the inflation reduction act which delivered these health care and climate change reforms, but the president, as the white house is saying, is going to be talking about the dignity of the american worker on this labor day. a heavy focus on the union support that the president enjoys. he's described himself in the past as the most pro-union president, and i certainly expect him to focus on that as he visits milwaukee, wisconsin today as well as pittsburgh, pennsylvania. now, both of these states, both battleground states where democrats believe they have perhaps the best chance of picking up a couple of senate seats. lieutenant governor mandela barnes is running in miss wisconsin. he's not as of yet expected to appear with the president, though the governor toniers running for re-election, is and then in pennsylvania you have john fetterman who is running against dr. mehmet oz for a seat previously held by a republican, so another very key seat here. president biden and the white house certainly believe that they have the wind at their
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backs heading into this final two-month stretch of this mid-term campaign season of the they have seen inflation slightly tick down. they have seen these legislative successes, and they also believe that a very clear contrast is being established between president biden and the democrats and the republicans led by former president trump. erica? >> jeremy diamond, appreciate it. thank you. well, of course, as we talk about the road to november, also a change for republicans now facing their own challenge in the buildup to the mid terms, including fears that the former president's return to the headlines could actually be hurting their chances of gaining control of congress. joining me now, cnn senior data reporter harry enton. this felt like a given for a long time, right, republicans could take back the house, could take over the senate. things have changed a fair amount in terms that have outlook. >> yeah, thanks have changed a fair amount and if i were a republican that i'm worried about is trump now back in the news. he's dominating the headlines, and one way we can see this is by looking at the percentage of people who are searching for joe
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biden on google versus the percentage of people searching for donald trump. you know, you go back to june. they were basically even. then all of a sudden obviously you had the hearings that were happening about january 6th. then trump starts to overtake him and get into the mid-50s of the people searching for it the two of them. now you look at the past month of august, what do you see? you see trump just dominating on the searches, getting about two-thirds of them of the people who are searching for either him or the current president joe biden, and look at what happened to the generic congressional ballot during that same period of time. republicans had a two-point lead a few months ago back at the end of june. that dropped to a point advantage at the end of july and now if you look at the data, what do you see, you see that the democrats are actually ahead so there's a pretty clear correlation going on. the more trump is dominating the headlines, the worse it is for the republicans. >> it looks like when they are finding the information on donald trump that a is perhaps not favorable information when they are doing all the google
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searches. >> exactly. >> we're nun precedented territories, easy for me to say on a monday morning. is there any way to gauge at this point what this looks like, right, as americans are potentially weighing -- i know it's a long way off, but at the same time you can't talk about november without looking ahead to 2024 and the potential for an incumbent and a former president. that's got to be coming into play. >> this is just really weird times, right? if you look essentially at the google searches, you know, at this point in the 2010 mid-term cycle or the 2014 -- or the 2018 mid-term cycle, the former presidents were not getting searched basically at all, right in the current president was dominating the searches, nearly 90% in both the 2010 and in the 2018 mid-term cycle. i'm also having a -- >> it's a monday, my friend. don't wory. >> it's monday. and you compare it to now and basically see, you know, biden only get a third of the searches. it's just so much different so i think the normal rules of politics may not necessarily apply both to this mid-term
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election and ahead to 2024, and i think we're all just trying to figuring out what are weird unprecedented "new york times" what are the voters going to do? >> everything is unprecedented, not just the political races based on what we've seen before. look at the economy. we talk to christine romans every day about this. the rules don't apply anymore. >> you have such good job growth but such high inflation. you never see that. things are weird. >> they are weird. >> never weird with you. >> thanks, harry. never weird with you. always a pleasure, my friend. one of the key issues motivating democratic support in early special elections, that we know very clearly is abortion rights. cnn's dana dash is taking a look at how one republican is using that issue to save her own race in michigan. >> at the michigan state fair, labor day weekend bheens livestock competitions. proud grandfather dick rosel watched her granddaughter abbey
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show her pigs. >> this is my pig. her name is billy jean. i love her to death. >> still here, labor day weekend means election day is around the corner. >> i lean towards the right, but i want what's best for the state and for the country, you know, when it comes to my politicians. >> so you're undecided? >> yes. >> his wife dawn is undecided, too. they are both republican voters wary of a total ban on abortion. has abortion ever been an issue that has driven your vote before? >> no. >> it's new this year? >> yes. i want to here more what tudor dixon has to say about abortion before i decide who i vote for. >> reporter: tudor dixon is michigan's republican nominee for governor. so far most of what voters hear about her abortion supposition from democratic ads flooding the airwaves. >> she's told us exactly who she is. >> are you for the exemptions for rapes in incest in. >> i am not. >> reporter: since winning the republican primary dixon has
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kept a low profile on the campaign trail. her democratic opponent governor gretchen whitner not so much. >> the only reason michigan continues to be a pro-choice state is because of my lawsuit. >> reporter: even before "roe v. wade" was overturned whitner filed a lawsuit to prevent a 1931 michigan abortion ban from taking effect. the state supreme court now gets the chance to rule on whether an abortion rights measure that drew nearly 600,000 valid signatures will be on the ballot in november. >> the vast majority of people in this state support a woman being able to make her own decision, whether it's one they would do or not. >> reporter: it's a motivating issue for voters like emily and her mother rhonda who joined governor whitmer at a women's roundtable on wednesday. >> people are more so in the middle like my mom, they will be more so pushed to vote for people who are going to protect their reproductive rights. >> i could not have said that better myself. >> reporter: not everyone
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agrees. >> i don't think that the abortion issue is a big deal in michigan. >> reporter: aaron gardner, a republican running for state senate and tudor dixon supporter, was protesting outside a whitner campaign event. >> most of what people care about is money in their prices, let's be realistic. gas prices are skyrocketing through the roof. >> reporter: in bay city whitner touted job creation at a new manufacturing plant, addressing economic issues head on. how much of an uphill climb is it for you as the incumbent governor? >> people are struggling to put food on the table. the costs of everything have gone up. we've seen the cost of gas continuously come down for the last month and a half. that's a good thing. i'm trying to give people relief. >> reporter: through a spokesman tudor dixon declined our request for an interview and her campaign would not share detail on any public events or provide a surrogate for us to speak with. >> we want education freedom in the state of michigan. >> reporter: dixon watched
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republican governor glenn youngkin saw him win the blue state by campaigning on the cultural divide on education. she's borrowing from his playbook. >> we think you should know what schoolbooks are in your library and what the class syllabus is, too. >> reporter: whitmer has learned, too. >> i've created a parent advisory council. it's important not to be disconnected but to really empower parents. >> reporter: michigan's governor became a national figure during the pandemic. her decisions on closures and masks were not always popular. we heard that back at the michigan state fair. what do you think of governor whitmer? >> i think she's done a bad job, especially with covid situation shutting the state down. >> reporter: and yet do you like tudor dixon? >> yeah, i did, everything except the abortion issue that it seems like she's -- you've got to be more liberal with that abortion situation. >> reporter: voters in a crucial battleground state up in the air as summer comes to a close.
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dana bash, cnn, oakland county michigan. >> and our thanks to dana for that report. still to come here, the desperate search for a memphis woman affected during a friday morning run. how officials are now targeting their hunt and what we're learning about the suspect. plus, as kids around the country head back to school, there's new data that details the devastating impact of a pandemic when it comes to learning. answer a few questions and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds we'll come to you pay you on the spot ththen pick up your car that's itt at carvana as a main street bank, pnc has helplped over 7 million kids develop their passion for learning. and now we're providing 88 billion dollars to support underserved communities... ...helping us all move foard financially. pnc bank: see how we c make a difference for you.
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her kidnapping. police say the suv at the scene belonged to a woman linked to his home address and that cell phone records also tie him to the site of fletcher's abduction. i'm joined now by retired supervisory fbi agent steve moore, cnn law enforcement contributor. steve, it's good to see you this morning. i was struck last hour, gary tuchman, my colleague on the ground there in memphis, said he was told by police that the suspect is not cooperating, isn't really talking at this point. how much does that complicate matters if you have a suspect in custody but they won't talk to you? >> well, it's obviously going to make it, you know, make it detective work at this point. it's much easier when they confess. they own up to everything, but now the thing that's going to help the memphis police is that he didn't really do anything to really cover up his crime. he didn't think it out. he didn't plan it. this was a crime of opportunity
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and crimes of opportunity are the easiest to solve because nobody figures it out beforehand and nobody works hard to cover it up afterwards. >> the affidavit also says that the police found, quote, physical evidence that she suffered serious injury. that evidence is also key here in terms of potentially tying someone else to this crime. >> yeah, it is, and the evidence, unfortunately, i think would be blood found in the car, so, you know, it ties -- it ties her to him. they have got video. i mean, really they are even without finding her, they can still prosecute. my hope is that she's still alive somewhere, but either way somebody's going to know he will have talked to somebody. this is not going to be the great unsolvable crime. >> as i noted police say the suv at the scene belonged to a woman linked to his home address.
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cell phone records tie him to the site of fletcher's abduction. police say there were sandals found near the site of her abduction that had the suspect's dna on him. all of these feel like you're connecting the dots, right, but do they add up to a straight line? >> yeah, yeah. this is just right down the line, erica. this is the kind of crime tragically that happens every week in america where somebody who is mentally, you know, deranged in a certain way find an opportunity, finds an undefended person and we have -- we have a tragedy. so this is not going to be something that's -- that's out of the ordinary, unfortunately. >> steve moore, appreciate you joining us. hopefully we'll get more updates later in the day. thank you. >> thank you. >> rescue crews searching for any signs of survivors at this hour after a seaplane crashed
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. nearly 50 million americans are on a heat alert this labor day as massive heat waves are gripping major parts of the united states. some areas are seeing 10 as much as 20 degrees above average, and for the sixth day in a row state officials are asking residents to conserve electricity as part of an effort to avoid power outages. cnn's natasha chen joins us live from los angeles this morning. you've been battling this right there along with so many other people in the state of california and in the west. where do things stand in the state of california this morning, natasha? >> reporter: erica, we've seen a lot of people come out now to get in an early run or get in their exercise now that it's just past 7:00 local time before
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the heat really starts kicking in. before 4:00 p.m. this afternoon when they will be asked to turn off their thermostats and try to power down to reduce the stress on the electric grid. right now here at santa monica pier we're also noting that there is an advisory for people not to actually swim or surf or play in the water because of high bacteria levels that are above state standards so a lot of people will be flocking out here on labor day, but they are advised not to actually get in the water. i want to point out that the records that were broken as far as temperatures yesterday, more than 45 cities across the map that you're seeing there, including some coastal cities that typically avoid excessive heat, and then if you look further into the week, there are more than 170 places that are expected to potentially break records and temperature as well. and keep in mind when we talk about three-digit temperatures here, for example, death valley is going to see 124, long beach, you know, yesterday was 109
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breaking a record that they set in 1988, anaheim at 107. those people are going to disneyland in that kind of heat. we're talking about these coastal areas that sometimes do not historically have essential air in older buildings because it didn't really need to be necessary before, so some of these places, people do not have ac so that may make the situation more difficult and, of course, fire danger now especially with these dangerous conditions. we're talking about the mill fire up near oregon's state line. two women were find, aged 56 and 73 were found on friday. people were evacuated there and more than 4,000 acres burned there. >> thanks, natasha. there's major news out of the uk this morning. britain's conservative party chooses a new prime minister.
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as of now, we are still waiting for that decision from la florida judge on whether to grant former president donald trump's request for a third party to review the documents taken from the mar-a-lago search. while we wait, trump out there stumping for gop candidates this weekend, although seemed to be perhaps a bit more focused on his own grievances, attacking the justice department and the
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fbi. >> the fbi and the justice department have become vicious monsters controlled by radical left scoundrels, lawyers and the media who tell them what to do -- you people right there -- and when to do it. they are trying to silence me and more importantly they are trying to silence you, but we will not be silenced, right? >> trump went on to call president joe biden an enemy of the state. joining me now elie honig, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. elie, good morning, my friend. nice to see you. in response to some of those comments, zoe lofgren of california, a member of the january 6th committee, weighed in on the former president's continued attacks. take a listen to what he had to say. >> in the lead up to january 6th there were extravagant claims
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made meant to inflame public opinion, and that is what is happening here, although i think it's meant to turn people against law enforcement officers, and we've seen that sometimes that rhetoric reaches people who are prepared to act on it. >> so what she went ton say is that she believes -- she gave the example of a man in ohio who was killed when he tried to attack the fbi agents there. she's saying these continued attacks could amount to incitement. is there real legal concern when it comes to the words of the former president? could he be putting himself, you know, at risk legally? >> well, erica, for the comments that we just heard, no, i don't think that's going to amount to legal incitement. have you to show more direct exhortation to violence. a person has a first amendment right to criticize and question whether it's doj, local law enforcement, fbi, that's all
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fine but the president's rhetoric we do have to call it out. it's wildly inappropriate. i believe it is dangerous. the language that he used is so overheated and so over the top and just utterly unsupported by reality or by facts. i mean, the notion that the fbi or doj overstepped when it executed this search warrant. the fbi and doj could not have possibly given him more rope, have given him more time to turn over the documents, they gave him over a year and the notion that the media somehow tells fbi what to do is just completely delusional, so i don't think it's illegal. i can the former president committed a crime right there, but i do think it's fair to call out his comments as dangerous and irresponsible. >> absolutely, and i would say they are also sort of, you know, well worn from a playbook we've all heard several times before trying to point the finger across the board. interesting when you talk about what the doj went through, right, because that -- so much of that was laid out in the affidavit that we saw once it was released, and it was interesting to me that we heard
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even friday afternoon, after we got this list of detailed inventory of what was taken from mar-a-lago, former attorney general bill barr was weighing in saying, look, the doj did everything right. they played by the book. of course, they are getting frustrated. that stood out to me. you wrote a whole book about bill barr as we know, but the fact that we're hearing such direct language from bill barr, what is the impact? >> erica, well, my book, of course, to be clear is very critical of bill barr and i think we have to keep in mind that during his tenure as attorney general, baierl was a wildly dishonest operator. he covered up for donald trump. he cheerloaded some of donald trump's political talking points and conspiracy theories, so you take that same person and now we see what he's saying and i think really makes his comments resonate even more strongly. this is a trump longtime partisan and loyalist, but let's also remember bill barr has had experience as attorney general, twice. he's actually one of two people ever who served as a.j. twice,
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once in the early '90s under george w. bush and of course now under donald trump. he's able to understand the position that doj was in here. he understands that doj got dragged out and slow-played for over a year, that they tried to subpoena, they still didn't get all the document, and i think bill barr is able to put himself back in the seat at doj and say what would any rational person have done? you had to go with a search warrant. there was no other option. >> it's interesting. as we wait for this decision from the judge in florida, i was talking about this to someone else on friday night if in fact a special master was granted could there be special programmers? there's talk of you won't likely hear much from the doj starting september 10th pause that's the 60-day run-up to the mid terms. the former president isn't on the ballot but has, of course, endorsed candidates. there's a chance it a a special master could come out perhaps with findings during that time or could at least be more communicative. do you think that's something that could potentially be restricted if in fact the judge
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grants that request? >> for sure, erica. yes. i think if the judge does grant the special master request, then i believe she will put parameters on it in two respects. one, i think she will say special master, you are reviewing for the following. maybe attorney/client privilege only, so i don't think this will become a free-for-all. i think the judge will put time parameters on it. they don't want a special matter of but if she appoints one let's make sure one gets down by the end of september. if there's a special master, a win for trump, something he asked for. he wants to have his potential privileges protected but it's by also no means dispositive on this case. it will be a detour, but it won't determine ultimately whether anyone gets charged or whether a charge results in a conviction. >> elie honig, always good to see you. thank you. >> thanks, erica. still ahead here, the test results are in, and they are awful. the pandemic negative effect on
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vaccine formula has been reworked and evolved to specifically target the omicron subvariants. anyone 12 and older who has already received their first set of shots is now eligible for this booster. joining me now with more is cnn medical analyst dr. leana wen. now this shot is available to anyone 12 and up. should everyone 12 and up be getting this new formulated booster? >> well, first of all, i think it's a very good thing that we have this reformulated booster. this was always something that we anticipated, something that's done for the flu vaccine every year to predict the new emerging variants, new emerging strains that there is an updated booster, and i think that this could actually be the path forward in the future that perhaps we get an updated booster for the covid vaccine every year in the same way that we have an updated flu vaccine. as to who should get it immediately, it's individuals who are 50 and old we are
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chronic medical illnesses, individuals who have not yet gotten any vaccine this year. they should absolutely go ahead and get that reformulated booster as soon as possible. i say that individuals who could probably wait a bit are those who just had covid, so if you just recovered from covid, you could probably wait about three months or so because reinfection within that same time period is very low. >> what about kids under 12? they are not eligible for this new omicron-targeting booster. are they at a greater risk now? >> well, we know that children in general are much less likely to suffer from severe illness compared to older individuals. the other thing, too, is that the vast majority of children have already had covid and so if kids are vaccinated and they have recovered from the coronavirus, they are pretty well protected, especially against severe illness, so i would say at some point i'm sure that this reformulated booster is also going to be made available for younger children, but at this point i would not worry about kids under the age
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of 12, although if they have not yet been vaccinated at all, they should go ahead and get the vaccine, each if they have already recovered from the coronavirus. >> also i want to the ask you about flu season because dr. fauci last week was saying it's going to be a pretty bad flu season in his estimation based on what we're seeing in the southern hemisphere and that flu shots, everyone should get their flu shots now. is there any concern that covid-related vaccine hesitancy has trickled into hesitancy when it comes to the flu vaccine? >> i really hope not because i agree that we could be in for a bad flu season because we virtually saw no flu last year and so there's pretty low baseline immunity. i really hope that there hasn't been backlash against all vaccinations including a routine childhood immunizations because of the covid vaccine. actually i hope for the opposite. i really hope that there will be a push this year for maybe a combined flu and coronavirus vaccine push in the sense then that you could get both the flu
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and coronavirus vaccine at the same time so i hope that that's the message that will come through, that these are both contagious illnesses to which there are vaccines available that will help to reduce your likelihood of severe illness, and so get both the coronavirus vaccine and the flu vaccine, especially coming into what could be a bad flu season this year. >> dr. leapa wen, always great see you. thank you. >> thank you, erica. there is added concern this morning about the impact of the pandemic when it comes to education. recently released national test results showed the 2022 test scores for 9-year-olds fell an alarming five points in reading and search points in math. that's compared to early 2020 before lockdowns began, of course, before school went remote in the u.s. why is that a big deal? well, it's also the largest drop in 30 years. peggy carr is commissioner of the national center for education statistics and joins us now. i have to said headline alone when i saw this was really alarming and just gave me pause.
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in the simplest terms, when we look at the education, the learning loss here, was closing schools for so long a mistake? >> well, you know, i don't know if it was a lot of choice. the health experts were telling us to close the schools and the districts and the states had to do what was best for the children. well, i think we need to focus on now is moving forward. there's a lot of learning that has to take place and not just during the day. after school, extended daytime, we need to do what is necessary to move forward. >> some some of the greatest losses this, also stood out to me, was among kid already behind or struggling. this was an issue before the pandemic, that covid really seemed to fast track what is frankly a widening gap in this country. you mentioned more time on learning. is that the solution? is it a longer school day, more staffing because those are also challenges now? >> all of the above, erica. i think we have to have more
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time on learning and in whatever way we can get it done but it's more than that. we also need to focus on the whole child. there's a lot of evidence that students are struggling in terms of mental health. their behaviors in schools are more concerning than before. there's a lot to be done on the social, emotional learning component of this problem. >> i was actually having that exact same conversation with a friend last night at dinner about the struggles in high school right now and the increase in the need for mental health services. can you talk to us about we look at the study, right, and it's about 9-year-olds. why is that sump an important age when it comes to learning, that baseline learning, in terms of what it means for later on in life? >> well, you know, these 9-year-olds are developing are problem-solving skills, and one of the things that we were most concerned about is the drop in that level of knowledge and skills for these students. we were there just before covid
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was declared, a pandemic right before school closures. we went back to 92% of the schools, and the students were struggling more to problem-solving. it's the gateway to more advanced data analysis skills that students will need, problem-solving skills that students will need as they enter into the higher elementary grades. >> so as we look at this, there's the one piece of, okay, how do we work to reverse this learning loss. how do we better serve our children across this country, pandemic or not? there's also the question of, you know, god forbid it should happen again but if there's a future outbreak, if there is some sort of a pandemic situation, is there a way to do things differently? >> well, you know, we've already done a lot. the schools pivoted. they did a lot of changes in how they were administering
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instruction to the students that i think we're going to learn from. we had more devices in the hands of students than we had before. teachers have gotten more staff development in how to impart instruction if something like this, god forbid, will happen again. i think that we are better in a better place than we were before the pandemic, that's for sure. >> yeah. well, it's so important to raise this issue because it's not going away, and, again, there are so many kids who need this recognized so that they can get exactly what they need and deserve. peggy carr, great to have you with us this morning. thank you. >> thanks for all joining us here today. boris sanchez picks up our coverage after a quick break so stay tuned.
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