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to communicate with each other as a grieving family does. >> can you imagine being a fly on the wall at that dinner tonight? >> what are they going to talk about they are going to talk about small arrangements about the thing that is happening without realizing billions of eyes are gonna be on the. >> what are we going to see tomorrow? >> we are gonna see the opening up of a series of days of visits for the public to visit the queen and waiting. i've been asked by a number of people whether it's gonna be an open pass it. that is tmi, that is not going to happen. it is gonna be very sober. if you can go and visit across 24 hours. and it is very very somber. you go in silence. and i imagine in crowds just passing their way through step by step it's going to be like this until the funeral on monday and the strange atmosphere that is in central london right now is only going to intensify and darkened as the sheer meaning and significance of these events
take hold. >> scott, you have been here talking to people who have been gathering, you know, since the queen died here at buckingham palace. and really all around. why is it so important for them to be out, especially tomorrow, you know they are gonna be out there? >> yeah, and in huge numbers, and you know, i've asked this question a lot, and you can put people in a lot of different categories. number one, there are people who say they want to witness history, they want something they can tell their grandkids. there are people in a another category who are sort of the royal waters, the people who got all the jubilees, all the birthdays, all the celebrations that you can imagine, all the funerals. and then there are the folks as well who generally seem to have some deep admiration and respect for this woman. or maybe, some sort of family connection at. well maybe they met her for five minutes three years ago. our for instance, i spoke to one american man yesterday who came all the way from minnesota because his mom, his 82-year-old mother is british, and she sent him to say, look, andrew, you need to go and pay
respects to this woman who we have admired for so, so many years as british citizens. so i think there is a lot of that. but the two words that keep coming up over and over again when you asked people what queen elizabeth's duty and service. this is a woman who did her duty, did her service, did not always seek out the spotlight. even though she obviously is the monarch of this country. i definitely, people say she was a unifier in a country that is not always seem that unified, especially across nations and for nations as well. >> shannon, most people were not even alive the last time we saw a british monarch later rest. the next few days will really be remarkable and steeped in tradition. what are you expecting to see? >> that is right. so, there is a statistic out that has been floating around that only about 10% of the uk was actually even alive the last time that we laid to rest a monarch. so, that is really remarkable. the next couple days are going to be a time for reflection, a time for gratitude for the queen. when her mother died in 2002,
they sought 200,000 members of the public come through pay their respects. and i'm reading reports that they're expecting more like half 1 million for the queen. >> oh wow we know queen elizabeth was deeply involved in all of these plans, i mean doubt every single detail. she understood what the people need it from the traditions and the ceremony of it all, the pomp and circumstance as they say, right? >> that's right, and she will have planned every single second of the past week, up all the way to her funeral. everything we are seeing is going to be exactly how she will have wanted us to say goodbye to her. and one of the things that was really interesting, actually, this week, as we know, the queen has four children, the now king, princess anne, prince andrew, and prince edward. at st. giles ' cathedral at edinburgh this week, the four children stood vigil beside the coffin. and that has only happened twice before, once in 1936 when
the queen's grandfather died, and then again in 2002 when her mother the queen mom died. however this was, the first time that a female was included individual. so, princess anne stood vigil with her brothers at the coffin. and that has never happened before. at the queen mother's -- excuse me, at the queen mother's vigil, it was just her grandson's. and in 1936 for george the fifth, there were no sort of, available suitable aged women. and it was sort of not done then. so, this is really interesting that we are seeing this broader reflection of a modern britain in the inclusion of princess and in this way. you know, the uk has been so much better about inclusion in this way than the u.s. given that they were laying to rest the head of state for the past 70 years who was a woman. and they have had three female
prime minister's, including the latest one who just took office last week. so this is really interesting. like i said, this is exactly how the queen will have wanted us to see it. and seeing her daughter be equal in the mourning in the grieving, in the public possession of this, as her brothers and the queen sons is really remarkable. it is a mark of the changing of the times. >> yeah, we were watching the hearse with the queen's coffin and i'm never quite seen the hearse like that. she was involved in the detail of having the light in the glass, and it seems that some people have been camping out, they said, four days to see this, to say goodbye to the queen. how do you explain this kind of devotion and love for the monarchy? >> it is exactly what we just heard. some of the people have a personal connection, so,, they say i was called elizabeth after queen elizabeth. the overwhelming majority are just tapping into human nature, which has not changed a
millennia. when something happens, we go out into the streets and we looked at whoever else is out and we just all share the atmosphere. we are all greater than the sum of our parts. and when something is as definitive as the passing away of the queen happens of course we rushed to the palaces the castles, the towers of london in england all of these great historic buildings. we want to see the spectacle. and in fact the royal family knows this. it is deeply, not manipulative but calculated every second of this as being milked for its public spectacle. but also it is a form of soft power. this is international diplomacy right, and the heads of state show them a good time, albeit in a time of morning give them some little meetings. a lot of businesses happening here at the same time as the public mourning. >> how many people, i think -- how many people are expected to show up, scott? because she is going to lie in state on monday. >> if scotland is any
indication, 33,000 people lying, who scroll past the coffin when it was on its way to scotland for a day or two for the queen mother back in 2002. she lied in state for three days. there is some 20,000 people who were there for that, who filed past the coffin at that time. and obviously, they are expecting a lot more. now we are time out hundreds of thousands of people who will file past the coffin over a four and a half day period. and actually, if you look at the route they are expecting for the queue to go, brits love an orderly coup, don't you? >> of course, we love that, it's our favorite thing in the world. >> it really stretches across central london it goes from westminster across the land of the bridge there and then all the way across the south, bridged crossed the tower bridge, across the tower of london and then all the way back to southern park. i mean, this is, the spans four miles, i think it goes past four different tube stations they can access it by. if you're showing up to the
line if you actually not going to know where you should start at any given point because you are not going to know how many people. so, it is going to take a heck of an effort just to find the back of the queue. >> jenna bush hagar was actually in scotland right before the queen died with an interview with camilla, but ended up meeting with then-prince charles. here is how she explained on the today show, watch. >> we were supposed to have dinner and meet and talk and the first thing we said is she is so sad, her flight is delayed, just like millions of people. but i did get to have dinner with prince charles on the last night he would be prince. >> what was the atmosphere like there? >> it was a lovely meal, i mean, he first said my darling wife is so sad. and i just laughed, i said to henry, who is there, you call me darling wife from now on. he just said i can't wait to sit down with you tomorrow. i was supposed to meet with the now queen concert around 1:30. at 12:30, we heard sort of running up and down the hall.
and it was her team, and his team, who we had gone to spend a year of conversations with, they came in and said can you please be quiet there is a call. and you are right, we are right by now king charles office, he said we are on a call, can you please be quiet. and all the sudden, we heard a helicopter, which we don't take lightly, go off. and they came in, and said your interview, which up until then we knew we're excited about, had set is postponed. they had just left for balmoral. >> that's all the information they give you at the time? >> they said the queen is ill, and they went to rush off to be with her. >> now, shannon, of course the queen was 96. but based on the story, it seems like her passing was a surprise to her son. >> well, first of, all i just love gianna and her telling of the story is so enduring. jenna, you know, is used to being in those rooms as one of
the daughters of the president. but also, you know, as a journalist. don, you know what these negotiations are. like she would be very familiar with the subject by the time she got there. i also think that this could be interesting because nobody knows what it is like, maybe, to lose a matriarch of the family quite like the bush family does. so, i am sure that her art was just, you know, right there with them. and she sense that urgency, and sort of knew i was. coming but yes, i am told that this happened very quickly. so, princess and was the only one who was there the night before at balmoral. and i heard that the queen took a real turn for the worst in the morning. and that is why we got that really rush statement, that signal to the whole world that something was devastatingly wrong. and the family all rushed to her side. we know now that the only one who actually made it in time where they now came, king charles, and was already there and everybody else did just not
make it in time. so, that happened very quickly. also, she met the new prime minister just a few days earlier. and there is that photo of her. she was standing up, she was smiling, she looked lovely, she looked frail, she looked 96. but, it is just remarkable that this took such a turn in 48 hours since that photograph. >> thank you shannon, thank you bidisha, thank you scott, i appreciate it. make sure you join me and anderson cooper as we follow the queen's final journey through london as the united kingdom honors her life. live special coverage begins tomorrow at 8 am eastern time. we have got a lot more to come, as the british people prepare for their final farewell to queen elizabeth and a new royal era dawns. plus, a judge releasing new never before seen information from the mar-a-lago affidavit. what does it tell us about the doj's investigation? g. fasenra is an add-on treatment fofor asthma driven by eosinophils. it helps prevent asthma attacks, improrove breathing, and lower ususe of oral steroids.
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new tonight a federal judge unsealing a less redacted version of the affidavit used to secure a search warrant for mar-a-lago. for more now i want to bring in cnn political correspondent sara murray, and senior legal analysis elie honig. good evening to both of you. sarah what is new in this unsealed affidavit? >> well don we are just getting a few more details. we are getting a little bit more details about the classification markings that were on documents that the trump team handed over to prosecutors. this is of course before the search at mar-a-lago in august. it has helped build a record leading up to that search warrant. obviously, they point to very sensitive government programs underlying it. we're also getting a few more details about what we heard is a subpoena for the surveillance
footage at mar-a-lago. this document makes it clear that it was a subpoena for six months of video footage related to a basement room in mar-a-lago. so, a few more details shedding light on what led up to that search at mar-a-lago, don. >> elie, what can you tell us about the doj investigation from these new unredacted details? >> well, don, the first thing that sort of strikes me is the doj is clearly focused on obstruction of justice. we know that because that is one of the crimes doj used to get the search warrant in the first place. but it shows us just how intensely they are focused on this surveillance video. you don't just subpoena documents, subpoena months and months of surveillance video unless you have a good reason. and this shows me that the doj had good reason to believe that documents were being moved into and out of the secure storage area. and one other interesting detail that comes through with new items that were unsealed
today is that doj, we already knew that doj was lied to by somebody on trump's team a lawyer put in a suffocation saying we have given you all classified documents. of course there is still dozens more in there. and today we learned somebody somebody told that lawyer these are the documents all we have. did not tell the lawyer but all the other documents aaron donald trump's office and desk. so, who that person is i think is really important issue that needs to be resolved. >> this is an important detail not in the documents, sara, but the my pillow guy, what is a trump ally mike lindell, saying the fbi served him with a subpoena for the contents of his phone. what details are you getting about that? >> yeah, he was at a hearties, i guess, in minnesota. and that is where he encountered the fbi. he shared some of my details with my colleague. he share them on social media. he shared the documents on social media. this appears to be related to
the investigation going on in colorado, into mason county clerk -- and the breach of voting machines there. she has face state level charges she has pleaded not guilty to. but there is also in this federal investigation that has been ongoing. and that appears to be related to that -- mike lindell actually made a joke to evan perez when he was talking to him that he sort of hope that he was getting caught up in all the january 6th stuff. this does not appear to be related to that. but nonetheless, still a serious investigation about how allies of the former president were trying to get into these voting machines in various states, including colorado. >> did you say a hardee's? >> i said a hardee's. apparently he was at a hardee's and, that is where the fbi confronted him about getting to search his phone. >> [laughs] that is a very interesting detail. well the insider at the drive-through? >> i believe he was at the drive-through.
>> sarah, this new development comes after the doj's subpoena swept up more than 30 people in trump's orbit. what do you know about this new round of subpoenas? >> that's right, we have been sort of digging into these subpoenas, digging into what folks are being asked for, and it's pretty clear as you run through the list of people, what the subpoenas actually say. the justice department just wants to soak up as much information as they can about every aspect of the former presidents efforts to overturn the 2020 election. so, that means what went into the rally where the former president spoke on january six, what went into the funding of those rallies and the spreading of these lies, what went into the fake elector scheme, and what went into spreading these falsehoods about election fraud in court. you know, it's clear they want to fill in the gaps, they want to establish this narrative and a better sense of everyone who's involved in these efforts, don. >> yeah, elie, the doj started with riders themself and are moving up their chain right to
trump world. what is the endgame here? and you expect charges? >> well don, yeah, i think you are right. i'm not even sure they moved up the chain. i think they just have done their work at the capitol with the respect of the riders, i'm not sure there is even a link between the people who are wearing furry hats and face paint and storming the capitals, and the people doj is investigating now. what we have seen is an abrupt shift in focus to the people around all trump. but i think sarah put it well. doj is painting with a very broad brush based on what we know with these subpoenas. there's actually trying to do, as sara set, soak up all the information they can. on one hand, that is a good move, why not try to get as much information and evidence as possible? but on the other hand, when you serve a subpoena, if you have specific idea of what you are looking for, you will see a more specific subpoena. it will say i want the phone records for this particular day, i want the records of this particular financial transaction. the reporting is not that that is what these subpoenas contained. the subpoenas are all basically financially records, all phone
records, very broad brush. i think what doj's would have to do is sift through that. is there more of a threat to donald trump now than there was three or four months ago? no question about it. will there be charges? that remains a very big question. >> sara, the january 6th committee is back to in-person meetings today. do you have any word on who else that is out there that they want to invite to testify? >> they were back, you know, they were very coy on who they actually believe they are actually going to get to testify in front of them, potentially at a future public hearing. we know they have been weighing whether to formally call former president donald trump and former vice president mike pence, not because they actually think that either these men will testify, but because they think it is important for the public record. you know, they have said they are cutting to go back and forth with ginni thomas. they put out a new two new gingrich, asking for his voluntary cooperation. but one comes the possibility of actually getting testimony,
or public testimony, from folks at a future hearing -- holding their cars very close to their vast, don. >> hearties, interesting, thank you both. i appreciate it. >> thanks, don. >> a stunning counteroffensive from ukrainian forces, now the pentagon is saying a number of russian forces are crossing back across the border.
september. ukrainian officials claiming they have liberated more than 300 settlements in just four days. and the pentagon says they have seen a number of russian forces retreating back across the border as ukrainian forces pushing to kharkiv. joining me now is cnn military analyst and retired air force colonel cedric leighton. colonel, thank you for joining us this evening. after a long period of stalemate, victories, to report now. walk us through where things stand on the ground. >> sure. don while a lot of things have happened in the last few weeks, really. and you know, when you look at this time lapse, you can see how far the ukrainians have advanced out of kharkiv. they also have conducted some advances in the south. but the main thing here is from the beginning of september until now, so, basically a period of 11 days, they have been able to achieve this kind of an advanced. which is really substantial, given the kinds of situations that they found themselves in the beginning of this war.
>> colonel, what has changed? what is allowing the ukrainians to push russian forces back like? this >> so, don, the key thing, there are basically two things that are barely important here. number one, of course, we have got the weapon systems, such as the himars, the high mobility artillery rocket systems that ukrainians are using to great effect. this gives them a much more accurate ability in terms of firepower. this is a way in which they can actually target things that they have not been able to target before. they can use this in a highly mobile fashion. and that gives them a very big advantage. the second thing is the leadership of the ukraine military. this is a picture of general -- he is the commander in chief of the ukrainian armed forces. and his style of leadership, to get things down to the lowest level, and allow people to have an should have at that lowest level has made a huge difference in the ability of the ukrainian forces to actually protect power.
and do it in a very effective tactical manner. >> colonel, ukraine is pressing these counter attacks in two key areas. what are their key objectives as they push into these regions? >> so, when you look at the kharkiv region this is the area right around the russian border area to take over here the. key objective in this particular case is really a geographic objective a train objective, and general -- , our colleague and friend, has talked about this on twitter. so, in this part of the country they are looking at taking train, taking rivers, taking hills. doing those kinds of things. but when you go down to the south, in the southern areas, you are looking more at a force on force type situation. so, the objective is to go after the enemy forces in those areas. and that is how they are different shunning about what they're doing in the northeast,
and i'm here in the south. ukrainian official tells cnn that the advance has slowed have the push to retake the city. lehman and luhansk. it is an important railway hub. so how important is that. >> it is important incredibly important. when you look at the different areas here. when you look at some of the different areas in ukraine. you were seeing major hubs that go through major railroads. they go through these areas right here. there's a section of these roads and railroads is critical. and for a city like luhansk. that becomes extremely important. because that is the objective. that allows the russians, if the russians have. it allows them t o
happiness of the change of hands. but uncertainty, still, about how to survive. and what the immediate future holds. >> don, some of that much-needed humanitarian aid getting through after all those months. but remember that these parts of the country are still subject to the media blackout. and we have to be very careful about what we showed, right next door, there is a station where people are having there -- are any signs of mid collaborated with the russians during those six months of occupation. remember that this isn't just about an invasion by russia. it is about a political system that was in place for six months. ukrainians, now trying to secure the country even as they
try and take back more of it. and try to protect themselves, not just from the threat from without but a newfound suspicions from within, don. >> melissa bell, thank you very much, we appreciate that. prince william, next in line to the throne. taking on a new title. prince of wales. and his role in the royal family is about to change. stions and d our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds we'll come to you pay you on the spot then pick up your car that's it at carvana
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ireland today and his first time asking. . or brawl he spent decades preparing for. his eldest son, william, is following his footsteps to becoming the prince of rails. and next in line for the throne williams. life kate, taken the title that was once held by his mother-in-law, diana. the princess of whales. now the couple is preparing for one william may take the throne. here is cnn's, max foster. >> used to be all hydrants inventor. between william and harry. . even after william married, there is plenty of fun to be had according to the cameras over the years, william gradually re-branded from a tireless young royal, mixing with celebrities and trendy parties to a more formal suited and booted figure more fit for the throne according to sources,
it was a deliberately formation. as he moves steadily toward the top job as it is known. one stop the work for prince. sources say william is in a rush to take on full time publicity. while he was settling down. first, marrying his soul mate and then raising a young family. it was all about striking the right balance. but from the moment his grandmother died. he became first in line to the throne. with that, came and more weighty title. >> i am proud to be known as prince of wales. the country, whose title i've been so greatly privilege to bear. during so much of my life and duty with that, the new prince and princess of whales have been elevated to another position and will not be expected to step up and support
the king more. they inherit huge suede blood from the dutch of cornwall. giving them an independent income for the first time. henry's father, reinvented the prince of wells by professionalizing it. it is no longer a ticket to a playboy lifestyle. william and kate will have plans to make their own. but family will remain the major priority for both of them. with their children starting in the new school just last week. both would be aware that the burden of royal duties are greater than they ever were not just because the queen has passed. but because these duties were always meant to be shared with harry. who has now given up his royal role it leaves the monarchy, whether by design, or by default. more streamlined than ever. the spotlight now firmly on the new prince and princess of whales. the most high-profile in history. max foster, cnn, buckingham
palace, london. >> all right max, thank you very much for. that would bring you now to nigel cawthorn an expert on the royal family. nigel, good evening, thanks much for joining. we are learning that william and harry had dinner together with the whole family tonight. there are so much intrigue about the relationship. the relationship came as a surprise. when they made this appearance the other day on with kate and megan. especially after a turbulent couple of years. do you think of the queen's death will bring them closer again? >> -- disputes. and when someone dies they all get together for the funeral. past i've seen in a new light >> you know, cnn reported, nigel the principal thought that was an important show of unity to then walkabout together with harry and meghan
at windsor. do you think we will see more of that? >> clearly, while harry and meghan are in the uk there is going to be more of that. and the longer term if they fly back to california we will have to see. obviously, the other royals can't easily fly to see the rest of the family. because of the protocol involved and the things that we have to do if they make any sort of visit to the united states. >> there is also the moment during the kings addressed where he mentioned, harry and meghan. watch this. >> i want also to express my love for harry and meghan. as they continue to build for their lives.
>> so i think thousand olive branch that he wants them back in the fold? >> clearly. prince charles had a long effort to slim down the monarchy. which is currently happening by the fall now. because one of the major players, prince andrew, is really out of the running. so they really do need harry back. from harry and meghan's point of view their careers in the united states haven't been particularly spectacular. hurries made very little contribution. and megan's podcast have not been terribly well received. if their careers falter, obviously, coming back to the united kingdom is a good option. because it essentially a job for life over here. >> do you think the people of the united kingdom will welcome them back?
>> i think so. he's always been -- harry's always been like very much in the uk and he's been seen a bit of a wild character. and it's all been part of the show, isn't it? part of the whole purpose of the royal family is to entertain the public. >> so much of the spotlight now following prince william and princess kate. how do you think they are going to approach their new roles? >> well i think that they're pretty well prepared. they've been moved up the ranking quite quickly. we william being bold and boring is seen as a safe pair of hands. and kate is very respectable, shall we say. we are not expecting scandals
from that. >> the prince and princess of whales. they are enormously popular. how much of that help the monarchy? does that help them? >> it is absolutely vital. for prince charles -- it was enormously unpopular for a long time. to know that the split up with princess diana and he's always been seen as one of the coop talking to plants and very much into complimentary medicine. though he's done a lot of charity work. it's been seen that the finances have been very badly mishandled and there's recently been a scandal with the way and getting in with the dodgy money from central asia and the
middle east. >> thank you nigel, i appreciate it, we will. >> thank you. >> so, we have some other news in. these results are coming in tonight on the very primary night before the midterms. cnn project caroline leavitt will win the republican primary in new hampshire's first congressional district. she is an election denier, who was assistant press secretary under trump secretary, kayleigh mcenany. after trump's 2020 lost. she went to work for a representative, at least a fine ick. and now the third ranking house republican. we'll be right back.
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live from cnn center. this is cnn newsroom. with john vause. >> we begin this hour in ukraine with a senior military adviser for ukraine's president as a major counteroffensive is falling but not stopping. its trip to fight -- the liberation of liven puts a new push into the luhansk region and the way of donbas. the ukrainian report pockets of ongoing resistance as well as russian soldiers looting as they retreated from what has been nothing short of a military route of ukraine claiming thousands of square miles of territory in the northeast has been the braided and once again under ukrainian control. as russia that are leaving their lima high windfall of military quill, and a gift, they say, especially for ukrainians who have been pleading for the west for increased weapons shipment. but russia still holds huge chunks of ukrainian territory,