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it is notably quiet hour and perhaps the quietest period modern london has ever seen, as mourners make their way toward westminster hall. even at this hour behind me, it is 2:00 a.m. in london, the line is long and yet people are waiting. it is moving quickly, and they are getting to see their queen. whether inside or outside the chamber, so many people we've spoken to here have pointed out it is the silence, perhaps, that is so remarkable, silence in nearly every respect. even if you take away the buses and taxis, london is one of the busiest international airports, heath heathrow. the only sounds today were the music of mourning chosen by the queen herself and military cadence calls.
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>> slow, march. >> in, out, in, out, in, out -- ♪ >> in, out -- ♪ >> president biden and the first lady are expected to fly here saturday morning. the president spoke with king charles today and will be the first american president the king will know as monarch.
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his mother met 13 of them. more from jeff zeleny on the personalities her reign encompassed. >> our countries have a great deal in common. >> reporter: queen elizabeth is forever etched in american history too. >> your declaration of independence break that link, but it did not, for long, break our friendship. >> reporter: it was 1976 at a biseine ten y'all celebration at the white house, where she hailed a special relationship with the united states. >> with a gallant disregard for history, we shared wholeheartedly in the celebrations of the 200th anniversary of the founding of this great nation. >> reporter: for seven decades, the queen has been an enduring rock of the nation's partnership, forging a resilient alliance with the presidency. from harry truman to joe biden,
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an unparalleled bookend of american history that began on her first visit to washington in 1951 as a 23-year-old princess. >> margaret tells me that whenever anyone becomes acquainted with you, they immediately fall in love with you. >> reporter: and so began a u.s. love affair, as quez went on to meet 12 more sitting presidents during her reign. >> queen elizabeth and prince philip for welcomed to the white house. >> reporter: she captivated both sides of the atlantic. four years later, she paid solemn tribute to his memory. >> in memory of president john fitzgerald kennedy, who in death my people still mourn and whom in life they loved and admired. >> reporter: the queen built relationships with all presidents, democrats and republicans, who all were eager to be seen in her royal presence. she danced with president ford after a state dinner and rode
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horses with president reagan. their bond, as contemporaries, was notably strong and on vivid display in visits over the years. >> to visit california and the west coast, better time than when the president is in california. >> reporter: the queen saw many parts of the country, including texas in 1991, when she visited lady bird johnson at the library of lbj, the only u.s. president she never met during her monarchy. at the white house, she was always greeted with pomp and pageantry. >> the united states represents an ideal, an em e blem, and an example. >> reporter: put this moment was seen as a bit of a faux pa, with only her hat visible above the microphones. yet if she minded, she never said so, always keeping her thoughts about presidents to herself. before delivering a poignant
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message on her last trip to the white house in 2007. >> talk, we will, listen, we have to. disagree from time to time, we may. but united, we must always remain. >> the final three presidents of her reign came to see her with obama and trump paying multiple visits. and biden seeing her just last year at a meeting of g7 leaders in a private tea at windsor castle. jeff zeleny, cnn, washington. >> perspective now with someone with a front row seat to a slice of that history. simon lewis was the press secretary in the late '90s. thank you so much for being with us. she worked with 13 sitting american presidents. the 14th, she didn't meet, i think was lyndon -- eisenhower. >> lyndon johnson. >> lyndon johnson. but she met with 13 u.s. presidents.
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she worked with them. what was her role like and her connections like with them? >> during the time i was there, it was bill clinton's term, and there was no visit while i was there. there were four state visits during her reign. i think it depending on the president. it's like the relationship with the prime minister. for instance, ronald reagan, they bonded over their love of horses and went riding together. >> there are iconic images of them riding together. >> yes, and there is an iconic image of ford leading the queen in a dance on the dance floor. there was something about the relationship the queen. she was talking about her and the king going to see the late president. it was president roosevelt. so, actually this family goes back a long way. i think it was an affection. i think the person who i think george w. bush ii had almost like a father/mother relationship with her.
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but they all, in their different way, connected and vice versa. that was the thing about the queen more generally, tremendous connectivity with international leaders. >> it is remarkable. over 70 years of her reign, just the sheer number of world leaders she met with. and also just i'm starting to think is there any other person who has had exposure to world leaders over a 70 year period at the level she has? it's kind of a consistent, a constancy in her accumulated knowledge. >> and she had some favorites. >> she did? >> se he did. >> who were they? >> nelson mandela. when i was being interviewed for my job working for the queen, was the at windsor castle. i was waiting and that was unusual. eventually her laughter at the top of the stairs and i looked up and there was nelson mandela who had run over by 30 minutes. when he walked in, he said, ma'am, you look fantastic.
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she said, you should see my mother. so, there was a special chemistry there. but importantly, i think they both understood each other, people like that, because the queen -- because they'd both been around a long time. they'd both seen ups and downs. and i think there was a hugely reassuring quality to the queen for world leaders. >> a lot of world leaders -- it must have been incredibly nerve wracking when someone's who's just come into power to meet the power and to know she has known all your predecessors and she has had relationships with all of them and wondering what your relationship is going to be like. >> and all the former prime ministers have said the same thing, she put them at their ease. the thing about being a world leader, a political leader, is spending time with the queen. everything else is put to the side. it must have been a very special relationship whoever the world leader was. >> there was images of her with the obamas multiple times. there was an incident here that made a lot of news when michelle
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obama put her arm around the queen and the queen immediately put her arm around michelle obama which is, here, a very unusual thing to do. >> and i think the queen had an instinctive understanding in those situations of what was the right thing to do. i think shrinking back would have been the wrong thing to do. the queen's ability to think in the moment. >> how were those decisions made, why do you think a decision like that gets made. >> these are delicate decisions made in cooperation with foreign office and number ten. >> so, there's consultation between the palace and number ten -- >> absolutely. that's number 10 and buckingham palace working together. the fact all these world leaders are coming together means there's going to be a lot of you discussion going on between the world leaders. and the world leaders will be paying respects to the late queen and spending time with their peers. it's a very delicate process. of course the king will be
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hosting a diplomatic reception on sunday night, which is also a very strong message to the international diplomatic community. >> just as somebody who knew the queen, worked for the queen, how do you think today went? >> today was extraordinary. i mean, i've been out today and the crowds, they're huge, but there's a dignity. this has been long-planned, that you can never predict what the day's going to be like. and i just think the combination of the number of people, the respect, the incredible pomp and circumstance that worked so exquisitely, i think it's made quite an exceptional day. >> thank you so much for being on. lovely to talk to you. >> pleasure. ahead, harry and meghan have been part of all these ceremonies after stepping away from royal life. what drove them to leave the uk and where things stand now. plus latest efforts to avoid a nationwide freight rail strike in the united states that could cripple the u.s. economy. there are also cancellations from coast to coast. coming up, the latest on that. answer a few questions and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value
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along with all the pageantry here in london, many are watching for the return of duchess meghan and prince harry to royal life. randi kaye right now traces their journey from one continent to another. >> we went from zero to 60, like, in the first two months. >> reporter: that's prince harry talking about dating then-girlfriend meghan markle. the couple met in london through friends in july 2016, according to markle. soon, they were engaged. >> just an amazing surprise. it was so sweet and natural and very romantic. he got on one knee. >> they tied the knot in 2018 and welcomed their son, archie, the same month they celebrated their one-year wedding anniversary. from the outside looking in, it
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was a fairy tale, california actress meets a prince, and they meet live happily ever after. but the relentless spotlight and brutal ed hadlines soon took their toll. >> do i have any regrets? yeah, my biggest regret is not making earlier a stance in my relationship with my wife and calling out the racism when i did. >> reporter: prince har by in "the me you can't see" describing the racism that was pointed at his wife by the british press. >> within the first few days, harry's already, almost straight out of compton, and her exotic dna will be thickening the royal blood. >> reporter: the pressure, the hurtful words, all soon became unbearable, according to the couple. and their relationship with the british media deteriorated. >> you add this on top of just trying to be a new mom or trying to be a newlywed, it's -- yeah,
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well, i guess -- and also thank you for asking because not many people have asked if i'm okay. but it's -- it's a very real thing to be going through behind the scenes. >> the stress on the couple grew so much, harry says meghan considered suicide. >> meghan decided to share with me the suicidal thoughts and the practicalities of how she was going to end her life. >> reporter: in 2020 the couple decided to step back as senior royals, become financially independent, and move to the u.s. but it wasn't just the press the couple was having issues with. as they told oprah, it was the royal family, who had allegedly made remarks over the color of their unborn baby's skin. >> hold up right now. >> there were several conversations -- >> there's a conversation with you -- >> with harry. >> -- about how dark your baby is going to be? >> potentially and what that would mean or look like. >> harry and meghan have now
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forged a new life. they reside in montecito, california, and they've added to the family with the birth of their second child, little bette diana named after harry's grandmother and mother. the couple has worked to soften their image, at times appearing on shows to display their funny side. >> the 405, why not? >> like a chipmunk. >> reporter: meghan has a new podcast, "archetypes," and says she might join social media again. harry has joined a local polo club in santa barbara. for the moment they rejoin the ranks of the royal family, as the world marks the solemn end of an era.
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randi kaye, cnn. >> joining me now is cnn royal correspondent max foster. look, these moments are difficult for any family to have it all publicly displayed like this. and of course they know that coming here and being part of this, it brings it all back. >> yeah. so, i think they are following all the protocols, the couple, and they're fitting in as and where expected, knowing the queen had set the plans out ahead of time. >> you were pointing out earlier today they were given a prominent place in the funeral procession. all of that was thought out. >> what was interesting, if you remember prince philip's memorial, they were sitting in the congregation while william was in front. what's changed now is that the monarch is charles, and charles' two children are william and harry. so, he's sort of gone up a level. so, he took a very prominent position today, particularly going into the -- into
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westminster hall. he was there with the queen and the prince of wales. and i think that, you know, that is a gesture as well from prince -- king charles didn't have to do that. he's given him a big position. he talked about it in the speech. i think this is a massive effort by the king in particular reaching out to harry and meghan and trying to make them certainly part of the family. these are public events as well. they're being brought into the monarchy as well. >> you think this is a reach-out to harry and meghan for however they want to respond? >> yeah, because harry and meghan wouldn't have had any say in where they were placed in this. they were placed there by the king. and they could have chosen not to appear today. but this would not have been their decision to be in there. and while i've been told by people involved, they're following protocol. they're literally just doing what they've been asked to do. and they've done it without any
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fuss or bother, and they've put all the focus on the queen, which i think has particularly gone well with the public. i think as well it would have gone down more with the family. >> what happens in the days ahead now. there's the viewing and there are people lining up at this hour. what is it? 2:21 a.m. the lines are very long. that's going to continue for days. the funeral is on monday. and then that's it. >> i think that's the way it's designed, for the funeral to happen, be laid to rest, and then the family go off and have their own time. i don't think there's any desire by the family to continue this beyond that. there will, of course, be the coronation at some point next year, which will be a massive event here in london. there's a huge amount of arrangement will have to go into that. i think also it is a long period of time. people will feel there will be time to move on afterwards. and i think the prime minister has got a lot of issues. i haven't heard anything about the policy agenda. it's all been put on the back
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burner. politics will need to come back to the fore. >> but the coronation won't be for a year, you say? >> it's not completely clear. the impression i got is we're probably looking at next summer. it's a huge amount of work that goes into it. it's not like london bridge, which is always updated all the time. the idea with the coronation is start planning that after the death. so, that's a long, big process. the king will have very specific ideas about how he wants that to look. >> max foster, appreciate it. thank you very much. as we continue to report from here on a kingdom grieving, i want to remind you about a project i've been working about, which is all about loss is exam grief and how it changes all of our lives and how it's a bond that all of us share. and we've seen a lot of that in the public outpouring, the people coming together talking about their grief, talking about loss. you can see your qr code on the tv screen there. if you point your cell phone camera at it, you get a link to
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the reign of queen elizabeth saw its fair share of -- on this day. to americanize, it's a lot, perhaps not for long. back home, about 60,000 union rail workers are set to strike. deadline is friday at midnight. amtrak today cancelled long distance passenger service. but it's what a strike could do to inflation and supply chains. right now the bodien administration is trying to broker a deal between the unions and railroad officials. what do we know about the meeting going on between marty walsh? >> reporter: it just hit the
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12-hour mark. those union representatives showed up just after 9:00 a.m. they are still meeting, i am told. it's gotten so prolonged they even ordered dinner a few hours ago. they are still trying to hammer out this agreement. officials are taking it as a good sign. both sides, these union representatives and railroad carriers as well, are still at the table, still having these discussions, which we were told are happening in good faith. but it's been over 12 hours now and they have not yet announced an agreement. that, of course, is what officials are watching closely. it's significant that it got to this point where the labor secretary, marty walsh, felt he to get both sides in the labor department to talk this issue through. we know president biden placed calls to the unions, to the railway carriers earlier this week himself to try to get them to hammer out an agreement. he has been briefed on what's been going on during these
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extensive talks at the labor department today, but still no agreement yet. >> if there's nothing the labor department or the president can do to prevent it, how is the administration preparing for it? >> reporter: well, two things, one, they are preparing contingencies. because a big question for them is what is it going to look like if this actually happens, if this strike is not averted and they hit that deadline on friday night with no agreement. they've been talking about contingency plans with people like transportation secretary pete buttigieg, the labor secretary, agriculture secretary, tom vilsack has a big stake in this game. can they use trucks? can they use air freight? can they get this stuff that is vital to the supply chain around? the other thing they're throwing around is maybe executive action by president biden. it's not clear the extent of what he can do because a lot of this is under the purview of these private companies. that's a big question here. but it is something they have kicked around.
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i think they realize the seriousness of this. president biden himself has been obviously a huge supporter of unions during his presidency. he talks about it all the time when he's on the road. he's navigating a very delicate balance here between obviously trying to avert this potential disaster, which their word, could exacerbate inflation, which has been a major problem for them, but also supporting the unions in the way you've seen president biden talk about so much, anderson. >> kaitlan collins, i appreciate it. thanks. senator graham has proposed 15-week national ban on abortion has exposed a rift in the republican party on the issue just ahead of midterm elections. that's next.
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sources tell cnn that a closed door debate by house republicans over senator lindsey graham's proposed 15-week national ban on abortion got heated today. one member characterized it as, quote, a healthy discussion with what he called, quote, different viewpoints. it's the latest example of how graham's bill has put an uncomfortable spotlight on a rift in the party less than two months before midterms. i want to get analyst from kirsten powers and david chalian as well. david, does senator graham's decision to propose a federal 15-week abortion ban after
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republicans leave the issue to states make any political sense to you? >> well, we should note lindsey graham is one of those republicans who said just this summer on cnn, it should be left to the states. i mean, it doesn't make necessarily smart political sense. but i think what lindsey graham is doing here is trying to rally the base of the republican party, which has had, as a life force, as a throughline for nearly 50 years, overturning roe v. wade. that has been such sort of a motivational cause. and now the party is sort of the dog that caught the car, anderson. so, what you have is the party doesn't seem very prepared for sort of the what then. so, they achieve this 50-year quest of having roe overturned, and now they're scrambling to answer the what then. graham proposes this as an opportunity, he thinks, to try
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and rally the conservative pro-life republican base. but obviously democrats seize this as a political opening. >> yeah, i mean, kiersten, grats have been warning voters this is what they've wanted to do. how big a gift did senator graham just give democrats going into the midterms? >> i think in political terms it's a big gift. i think if you look at it substantively, for many people in this country it's very, very frightening. he is just saying the part out loud and that's what they're upset about, that he's just talking about what they want to do when they get into office. it wasn't a month ago that he was echoing the state's rights argument that the states should be arguing this. so, i think the big fear for a lot of people, not just
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democrats, is that if the republicans get into office that this is what they're going to do. what he has done is he's made that argument front and center. as a political matter it makes no sense. i don't see how it could possibly help the republicans. and that's why you see republicans getting so upset and being unhappy that he has brought up something that does not work to their benefit. >> i mean, david, this is not the first time lindsey graham has said something which is completely the reverse of what he has previously said. he did that regarding nomination of supreme court justices. the level of hypocrisy about, you know, for years talking about states' rights and even, as you said, as recently as a month ago. and now to be talking about a national ban, what does it tell you that congressional republicans seem to be all over the place in their response to his oproposed ban? >> it tells me when you see a
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party just two months out from the midterm election not all singing from the same song sheet, they've encountered a political problem. and that's what i think mitch mcconnell just clearly laid to bear when he said, you know, he's not even sure he would push for this to come up for a vote. when you here rick scott, the chairman of the committee charged with winning back the majority in the senate for republicans, the republican from florida sort of saying, we really need to be talking about inflation, the economy, not this, you have such discord in the party. and it's just a clear indication that they understand the position that lindsey graham is taking is not a position where the american people are broadly right now. and when you're 55, 54 days away from an election, that's not where you want to be. >> kirsten, when manu raju asked rick scott, he said, he's studying the proposal.
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you would think after years of debate over roe v. wade, over abortion, people's possesitions would be pretty thought out. the idea that a national ban is something that's new to rick scott and needs to be studied seems unusual. >> it's unlikely that he doesn't know what he thinks about that. i think that he -- it's true that republicans have gotten away with taking positions on abortion for a long time without any kind of consequence because of roe v. wade so they could fall back on that. and now that roe has been overturned, it's changed. but certainly rick scott has had enough time since roe was overturned to know what he feels about that. and i think that -- like i said, i think lindsey graham is telling us all what republicans would do if they were in control of congress. and so i think that's something that, you know, voters should take into consideration because we've seen across the country, even in conservative states, even in red states, even with people who identify as pro-life
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finding a lot of these abortion bans to go too far. and it's worth pointing out that he has presented this as kind of a mod at alternative. it's not moderate at all. it's extreme. we don't have enough time to get into all the different ways it's extreme. but even the so-called exceptions that are in it are almost impossible to even use the way that they would be set up. so, you know, what he's put out is a very extremist position, which i guess seems to be sort of where the republican party is right now on abortion. >> and david, given the spike in female voter registration after roe v. wade was overturned, do you anticipate this proposed ban could have a similar impact? >> well, i don't think it will have as big of an impact as roe v. wade being overturned. but i think this is part of that narrative that we've seen now in five house special elections since the dobbs decision came
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down, anderson, where the democrat overperformed what joe biden did in those districts in 2020. the democrat overperformed joe biden in each of those house special elections. as you noted, you saw the registration surge, the huge turnout in kansas. it's clear the issue has shifted the landscape. i think the question here is, is it sufficient for democrats to save their majorities, given the overwhelming concern about inflation and the economy that still exists in the electorate? >> yeah. and still a lot of time before midterms. coming up, more on the queen and her legacy involving world war ii. plus my discussion with filmmakers ken burns and lynn novak about a new documentary on sunday, the u.s. and the holocaust. it examines the u.s. reaction in the run-up to the holocaust. it's an important and remarkable film. i'll talk to them ahead. you see that? that's when i realized we can't let another year go by.
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anti-semitism in the united kingdom than at any point since it began recording the incidents. the queen was called a consistent supporter for those who survive. the horrors of the genocide of the focus of the new documentary from ken burns and lily novak called "the u.s. and the holocaust" which traces the u.s. response, why it was unwilling to open its doors to jewish immigrants. >> reporter: among the new arrivals from eastern europe were more than 2 million jews, most fleeing poverty and many escaping anti-semitic violence. some jews, who had been in america for generations, were also wary of the newcomers. we are americans and they are not, one rabbi said. they gnaw the bones of past
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centuries. by 1910, new york would be home to more than a million jews, more than a quarter of the city's population, for more than any other city on earth. >> the anxieties about urbanization, about unlettered, untutored, relatively uneducated peoples coming in in large numbers, the sense that disease was a problem, all of these worries were amalgamated into a belief that immigrants caused these problems, and thus immigration should be held down. >> reporter: many white protestant americans came to fear they were about to be outnumbered and outbred by the newcomers and their offspring, that they were being replaced. >> episode one of the documentary premieres sunday on pbs. i spoke to ken burns and lynn novak earlier about the new film. ken, this is such a beautiful film and such an important one
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as well as infuriating at times. it's a very uncompromising look at the way america responded to what was happening in europe during the lead-up to the holocaust. and a lot of those prejudices are obviously still present in society today. for you, what was your hope in making this documentary in this moment? >> well, you know, we began this seven years ago, and america was a very, very different place in 2015. and we hoped to just tell a story. you know, after doing this for a few decades, you know that whatever subject you do, it will rhyme in the present. there'll will be resonances. not to yield those, not to point arrows at them, but just to tell the story and know they'll resonate. as we worked on this more and more, as time caught up with us, as we got closer to the air date, we began to realize how much it is rhyming in almost every sentence with today.
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we set the table of our film with the story of anti-semitism in america, anti-immigrant sentiment, nativism, our treatment of native americans and the african american slave trade and the racism that comes out of that. all of these things are still present in american societies. >> one of the narratives, lynn, in the series follows just talk about that and could the story that we understand of ann frank, could it have ended differently? >> yes, this was a revelation to all of us working on the film. some documents came to light when we were getting started on our research that showed that ann frank's father otto frank had written to the american kons l consul late to get a visa. he tried over and over again to get to the united states and had all the right paperwork.
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he had the connections. he had the resources and yet, they were turned away essentially. like thousands of others that wanted to get out of nazi germany america was not willing to welcome a fraction of the people that needed out. >> lynn, fdr is such a fascinating character in the documentary because he's sort of torn between trying to keep america out of the war and recognizing that he needs to support england as the last best hope against hitler. >> yeah, you know, i think sometimes fdr can be blamed in a very simplistic reading of the story it's all his fault america wasn't more engaged with saving refugees and addressing the humoh humanitarian crisis but he had a lot of problems on his plate to deal with including preparing our country as you said, either to stay out of the war or eventually to have to get into it. and public opinion was staunchly
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against that. isolation, americans first, americans didn't want to get involved in another european war after world war i. >> it's important the ann frank story and details, it's very easy to look back in history and say now, oh, of course, if i was alive then, i would have supported ann frank's family coming and other jews being able to come and save them, but it's easy to do that looking back. it's less easy to look now at people wanting to come to the united states and do that in the same way. >> that's exactly right. i think that's the thing is what kind of america do we think we are? kind of americans do we wish to be? are we as our film shows the americans of the poem, give us your tired, your poor of another poem written about the same time that said 0 liberty white goddess is it well to keep the gates unguarded meaning close them, we do not want to be replaced by this influx of
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foreigners and then we pass anti immigration laws in 1925 with very restrictive quotas from areas, countries with particularly large populations of jews and end up creating this unnecessary bottleneck that is going to make it a legally difficult to bring these people in. while we brought in 225,000 refugees from hitler's war on jews, more than any other sovereign nation, even if we filled the quotas, we could have brought in five times as many. >> also in the documentary, you flash forward to the present to show how these battles are far from over. this is not just some look back on history. i want to play another clip. >> this thing that people call white supremacy, that's not some marginal thing. you have to look back and say how can we change so that we really can be a republic or really can be a democracy? if we're going to be a country in the future, then we have to
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have the view of our own history, which allows us to see what we were and we can become something different. and then we have to become something different if we're going to make it. >> obviously, the question is how does that become something different? >> well, i think what we do is we need to study who we are. it's so interesting the germans that perpetrated this horrific crime, particularly the jews of europe engaged themselves with decades of self-reflection. we on the other hand presuming we're the greatest country on earth and the most exceptional people have rarely had the opportunity or the interest in delving into the darker aspects of ourselves but only through the understanding that that is equally part of us as well as the very good things that we do, do we come to terms and reconcile these things and perhaps the opportunity as timothy snider suggests so
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intelligently to make a decision in favor of preserving our democracy and not yield to the authoritarian impulses that are always before us, to demonize the other, to erode the systems of fairness, of elections, of the peaceful transfer of power. this is all out of the playbooks of all authoritarian leaders and we see, i've talked to you about this, the three great crisis of the civil war, the depression and world war ii now i think we're in the fourth great one and this is the first one in which the very foundations of the republic are revealed to be quite fragile. >> ken and lynn, thank you so much for making this film and i hope a lot of people see it and it's so important. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> thanks for having us. the first episode is on sunday on pbs. we'll be right back.
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let's hand things over to don lemon standing next to me. >> what a fascinating day. >> incredible. >> watching this unfold. there are certain times, certain stories you know you're in the middle of history and this is one as i came over here, i seen the kqueues, the lines of people -- >> even 3:00 a.m. in the morning and the lines still extremely long. >> good to see you. wish it was under better circumstances. >> yeah. >> there is a lot going on in london tonight and we're going to talk about all of it, everything we've seen and heard in the broadcast. first new exclusive cnn reporting. let me get to evan perez. mark meadows i hear responding to a subpoena from the doj. what are you hearing and learning? >>