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domestic terrorism fueled by hate is the number one threat in the u.s. and he said loudly, enough, we need to name it and not be silent about it and so that's what he was talking about and how we're much more united than we are divided but we need to talk about it and get back to those values of hope and unity. and "the lead with jake tapper" starts right now. the white house just called it a cruel premeditated stunt. "the lead" starts now. in the decades long debate over how to solve the crisis and ron desantis is shipping migrants late at night to martha's vineyard. back on track inside the negotiations that went on for 20 plus hours to avoid a rail strike that could have crippled the country's economy but how long can we avoid threats to the supply chain? meeting set after months of pleas, a source tells cnn,
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president joe biden will finally hear directly from the families of brittney griner and paul whelan two families being unfairly detained in russia. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper and start in our politics lead with stark moves by two republican governors. ron desantis and texas governor greg abbott sending planes and buses full of migrants to two specific places, selected, it seems to get a reaction. the liberal enclave of martha's vineyard in massachusetts and outside vice president kamala harris' official residence in washington, d.c. volunteers say the migrants seem to be mostly from venezuela. you can see some standing outside the naval observatory in the nation's capital earlier today. the immigrants were dropped off by two buses by texas. no heads-up was given to leaders of washington, d.c. that they were coming. in addition, overnight florida governor ron desantis shipped
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two plane fulls of immigrants to martha's vineyard. it is a vacation destination for many including former president obama and we're told was not equipped with shelters, nor was it ready with supplies to handle this surprise influx of human beings. desantis and abbott say they are taking extreme measures because they need to focus attention on the immigration crisis in the u.s. which is being ignored by leaders in washington. their detractors accuse them of using human beings in cheap political stunts in the name of raising their national political pro profiles. we start our coverage with cnn's miguel marquez on martha's vineyard where the community is scrambling to try to provide support for these migrants. >> reporter: this man was in san antonio yesterday along with 50 other venezuelan migrants. today he's in martha's vineyard. when you got off the plane, i ask him, what did you think of this place? beautiful, gorgeous, the people
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are very friendly. he says in texas he was promised help if he got on the plane, no idea where he was going. there were three options, he says, washington, utah, here in massachusetts, whatever was available. the plane left and brought us here. it's a tactic we've seen in texas, arizona and now florida. republican governors shipping migrants to so-called sanctuary cities and states with little to no notice. >> there's no low that those people will go. they'll keep going lower and lower and they're willing to use humans, children, women, families as political pawns for their own game. it is depraved. it is evil. it is wrong. but what makes america great is what we see here today which is an island community and a state in massachusetts is coming together to support the people here. >> reporter: this 27-year-old mechanic says he's been welcome
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with food and new clothes here on the island. he tells us he made a difficult month and a half long journey for liberty, democracy and the promise of america. so, hello, america. >> reporter: when you step on american soil you feel at ease that you're here and well protected. you lose the stress of the journey we had to go through in seven countries. very stressful across all of central america. this parish house bustling with activity, volunteers and organizers working since yesterday to provide food, shelter and immigration services. >> we've got the bodies to do this. the biggest problem was the short notice. and that was obviously intentional. >> reporter: just 20 minutes' notice says the airport manager. a deliberate move by florida governor ron desantis who is taking credit for the surprise trip. >> our message to them is we are not a sanctuary state and it's better to be able to go to a sanctuary jurisdiction and we transport for you to be able to
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go to greener pastures. >> reporter: that message not sitting well with officials here in martha's vineyard. >> we're going to come together and support whoever shows up here. and we're going to make sure that people have the food, water and shelter that they need, you know, ron desantis and republicans might want to play political games with people's lives, i believe that's incredibly inhumane to be using women and children and families as a political pawn. >> reporter: now, what's truly bizarre about the situation is that ron desantis -- and his dislike of the government there, what's bizarre is all of these immigrants came from texas and it appears only the planes were provided by florida specifically to bring them here and as you mentioned, within hours, those buses at the vice president's residence in d.c., but, look, whatever happens here in martha's vineyard, they can handle the 50 here. they are getting on it and
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believe if there are more plane them, jake. >> thanks so much. at first officials was unsure w them but governor desantis took credit saying states like massachusetts, new york and california will better facilitate these individuals through their designation as sanctuary states and support for the biden administration's open border policies. let's bring in steve. steve, governor desantis has big political ambitions. every move he makes seems to be carefully calculated and thought out. what does he gain from this. >> reporter: this wasn't something he hatched overnight but has been quite publicly plotting this in the public eye for months now. he has threatened to ship migrants to anywhere that might give democrats harbor and martha's vineyard and even said the president's home state of delaware. so policywise this is something he has said for awhile.
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politically this checks a lot of boxes for him. it gets his base really excited. it's an issue they care about. it causes a lot of anguish and outrage among democrats which scores a lot of points in today's republican party. and, you know, it gets media coverage. that is a formula he has used time and time again to get at the forefront of these issues that are most animating gop voters. >> so some gop voters in florida are venezuelan americans. that's kind of like a growing force in florida politics as i don't need to tell you. a lot of these migrants are venezuelans. might there be any risk of any backfire on governor desantis? >> jake, it's a great question because the governor has been a hard life liner on immigrant issues since he took office and hasn't hurt him too much with the latino and hispanic populations that make up such a large part of the voting base there. but one step back a second. the venezuelan population is
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huge in florida. it's -- half of the venezuelaning that live in the united states actually live in florida. in fact, 100,000 live in the miami area alone. and many of them vote, in fact, many of them vote republicans. a lot of them were trump supporters in 2020. you know, they actually thought that he was doing a good job of standing up to maduro, the dictator who runs venezuela, so if their political calculus changes, you know, you and i both know a lot of races are won and lost on the margins and already seeing venezuelan leaders down in florida. they are holding press conferences today where they were expressing outrage at this decision. if this moves the dial at all, it could be trouble for him. >> these are -- i'm assuming -- victims of maduro, victims of him. steve con ttorno. governor abbott sent these with no heads-up to officials in
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martha's vineyard, no heads-up to provide care for them. what's your response to this? is this a good way to protest the country's failing immigration policys? >> clearly, clearly, tragic and just a manifestation of desantis playing monkey see, monkey do with our governor and have a handful of right wing nut job governors that have been man testing themselves in this way and feeding more red meat to their base and alienating the middle of road republicans but in texas where we already have a massive labor shortage we're using tens of millions of dollars of taxpayer dollars to export people and as in this case as you mentioned these are venezuelans who are broken. who are coming from a communist dictatorship much like the venezuelans and cubans in southern florida watching this and probably in disgust regardless of how they may feel with what party they follow they
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are coming from a communist dictatorship and made it to our country and normally we take care of these people, we are good americans that promote democracy around the world and we're shutting the door on others that are suffering in dictatorships in venezuela and cuba when we're sending this message to the world. it's shameful. >> governor desantis and governor abbott say they feel compelled to do it and call on the biden administration and congress to take action, to highlight the irresponsibility of sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. what's your response to that? >> we're talking about communist dictatorships -- these are venezuelans would came from a maduro dictatorship. i thinks that so something -- they're have trouble explaining to cubans and nicaraguans and venezuelans in southern florida who fled the same dictatorship maybe in different conditions but in their heart they know what's happening is wrong and
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that's not who america is and never have been. this is a new radical right wing within the republican party that is showing this new face to our country and to the world and it's really shameful. >> congress hasn't passed sweeping immigration reform since reagan was president. it does seem like theoretically there should be a compromise that includes humanity and border security. what would you like see passed? >> absolutely. i just filed a bill called the safe zone ago and what the safe zone act does, it creates a place on the border of guatemala and mexico for asylum seekers to show up there instead of having to make it to our southern border and take the pressure off our border and remove the criminal element or the cartel element from hijacking these mig migrants. they pay 5,000 to 8,000 to get to my southern border and we calculated they made $5 billion last year. this is the only true comprehensive border plan that would bring long-term solutions
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and hope to get bipartisan support. this is not a show business type of big. this is something i took the first and only bipartisan group of members of congress to our border to see what was happening during the trump administration, dems used to point the finger at children in cages now republicans are going down every week for political ploys to take photos of migrants that are crossing the border and blaming biden. we need a comprehensive idea of what could be bring solutions and clearly we need an immigration plan that works but the asylum system isn't functioning at its best and i think we can make it safer, more humane. we shouldn't have to force asylum seekers to make a 1500-mile trek and pay thousands of dollars to cartels. >> i've seen two u.s. presidents, president bush also a former texas governor and president obama try to get immigration reform passed and bush tried very, very hard to his credit.
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and the problem always at the end of the day came down to conservative house republicans refusing to go along with any compromise because they were afraid of their republican base. >> that's right. >> i thought that president trump. there was a moment when he gave lip service to the idea of trying to push immigration reform, but i think he too was scared off of the republican base. >> i think that's what seems to happen. >> and these stunts are being done to appeal to the republican base, but the solution is right there and it seems like the republican base doesn't understand that fear of them has kept the solution from happening. >> right, and i think more farmers and ranchers and construction companies and manufacturers and people in the hospitality business teed to talk to those members and those senators and say, hey, we need this reform. we need normality. we're suffering the largest labor shortage in modern. they need the jobs, we need the labor. we need a way to get it done.
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>> vincente gonzalez, thanks for your time. to another crisis in the united states right now, crime. how that issue has ignited a midterm race that could tip balance. recession and what new numbers reveal about the u.s. economy's health. stay with us. you pre-order. get iphone 14 prn verizon.
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in our money lead, today president biden is celebrating a tentative deal to avoid a nationwide rail strike which the president says could have caused significant damage to the u.s. economy. >> this agreement allows us to continue to rebuild a better america with an economy that truly worked for working people and their families. today is a win, i mean it sincerely, a win for america so i want to thank you all for getting this done. >> cnn's pete muntean is there. >> reporter: this deal is big, because it essentially avoids this strike that would have brought 30% to 40% of all freight in the u.s. to a grinding halt. really when you think about it, this all came down to sick time that rail workers wanted because they say they were being
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punished for simply doing things like going to the doctor, even going to a funeral. in the end they did get some of what they wanted. also a major raise, back pay from 2020, also some bonuses, want you to listen now to one of the rail union officials who is in the room hammering out this deal for 20 hours with the labor secretary and the railroads themselves. >> this is monumental for our employees or our members. they deserve time off, time with their families. they deserve the ability to get medical care without having to worry about any kind of discipline policy or retribution so we worked hard for that. >> reporter: now, this is a tentative agreement, jake, and rail union workers still have to vote to ratify this. rail union officials tell us that is likely to happen in the coming weeks. permanently avoiding a strike in the long term, jake. >> pete, this deal involved
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freight railroads but could have a major impact on passenger trains because amtrak uses those rails for many of its routes. does this mean that amtrak service is back to normal? >> reporter: amtrak still did cancel some trains as there was a lag in getting all this information out. the big news here is that they are no longer canceling so many trains in all corners of the country. amtrak planned to cancel all long distance trains as well as trains on ten different state sponsored routes and would have trickled down to commuter rails in cities like chicago hearing from them they were able to turn this around soon and no trains will be canceled there. amtrak says everything on its system will be back to normal tomorrow. jake. >> all right, pete muntean, thanks very much. newly released data painting a confusing picture. another one missed the mark and mortgage rates hit their highest level in more than a decade.
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we try to make sense of this and what do the numbers say about when the economy is right now? >> yeah, sometimes the data seems to be pointing in different directions. on the labor front, well, the job market is still strong. we got weekly jobless claims which is our first look at how many americans are filing for unemployment. 213,000 which is lower than economists were expecting. also lower than what we saw last week so people by and large still have jobs, we learned that people are still spending. retail sales data which showed some slight increases, the consumer i think the best way to describe it, still proving to be resilient and holding on. we saw import prices fall which could mean some more good news on the inflation front down the line. where we are not seeing declines our mortgage rates. 30-year mortgage rates are back above 6%, double where they were a year ago and because of the supportability remains a huge problem and so people are sitting it out so you're seeing a screeching halt in housing
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activity. which brings me to the last part of the economy which is, of course, inflation. mortgage rates have been tracking and sort of following the fed's benchmark interest rate which we know they've been raising as they try to cool spending and try to cool demand to bring us back in balance and lower inflation. problem is, jake, the fed wants to cool spending but if they overdo it we start to see real damage to consumer spending. if we see real damage to consumer spending we start to see people lose their jobs. so that's not what we're seeing yet but that is the risk here. so the best way to describe this economy i think would be fragile. >> and the fed meets again next week, are we expecting any surprises with their interest rate decision? well, most of the market, most economists are expecting 0.75%. the third consecutive rate hike of that magnitude which is quite massive but you're also starting to hear some, some prominent economists actually say the fed should go for a full percentage
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point. i think we're still looking at 0.75. >> rahel, thank you very much. the president's meeting set with the families of paul whelan and brittney griner and what it might say about efforts to bring them home. stay with us. you get. and so much more. like a free samsung galalaxy z flip4. get even more with t-mobile. she was supposed to be the one. i used to believe in the one. and then i realized, there's plenty of savings in the sea. what? amazon has daily deals, so every day is a chance to meet the deal that catches your eye, that shakes your soul, that changes your destiny.
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topping our world lead, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy is calling upon the united states, germany, italy, france and israel to provide them with air defense systems. this comes in the wake of a critical sweep of victories on the battlefield for ukraine against russia and now ukrainian officials say they're concerned
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that moscow will retaliate with even more air strikes on civilians and civilian infrastructure. cnn senior international correspondent ben wedeman joins us live from kyiv. why is zelenskyy's request so critical in this moment, do you think? >> reporter: well this is a critical moment because the russians have suffered such a massive defeat in kharkiv losing 8,000 square kilometers that their only means of retaliation at the moment is to indiscriminately it seems hit civilian infrastructure. we've siege it on a water reservoir, they caused some flooding causing the residents to have to flee to dry, higher ground. we've seen it in kharkiv a few days ago where the russians struck the power system in that city, the second largest in ukraine was without power for quite some time. and so this is why we heard this
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urgent appeal from the ukrainian president today during a press conference and what he made the point that he has not received any sort of positive response from any of the countries so far for this urgent request. jake. >> what are you learning about what the russians left behind when they fled recently in that area that the ukrainians liberated in northeast ukraine? >> reporter: well, in addition to massive destruction and hundreds of millions of dollars worth of military hardware, we are learning that much like what happened when the russians pulled out of the area around the ukrainian capital that there are disturbing stories of potential mass graves. now, you'll recall when the russians pulled out in april from around kyiv, they left the suburb of bucha where 458 bodies were found, 419 of them showed
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signs of either execution, beating to death or torture. now, we're hearing already from the head of police in the kharkiv region that they have located what appears to be a grave that holes more than 440 bodies and we're talking about just the first few days after the ukrainians have been able to take control of that area. now, much of that area is still potentially dangerous with mines and booby traps so we're only just beginning to learn what the russians have left behind. now, it's important to note that, for instance, some of the cities that have been taken by the russians, for instance, we were in sever donodonetsk and t weren't able to bury the bodies because of the shelling and don't know the cause of death of
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this one site where the police say they found more than 440 bodies, but certainly it appears that we may see something of a repeat of the atrocities that were uncovered in bucha, jake. >> ben wedeman reporting in kyiv, thanks so much. after months of public pleas from the families of americans detained in russia brittney griner and paul whelan's loved ones will finally get an in-person meeting with president biden. let's bring in kaitlan collins. why is president biden agreeing to this now. >> reporter: one of the family members was already going to be in town so president biden wanted to meet with both of them on the same day. obviously this is something very much that the families of paul whelan and brittney griner had wanted for some time. they have written letters to the white house and met with other officials and spoken with president biden on the phone, but now actually getting an audience with the president in person is certainly something they want so they can make their case of why obviously they want their loved ones to come home and get an update on efforts.
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when it comes to whether or not there will be major changes on the efforts so far to get them home this is what the white house said earlier. >> well, i would love to say that the purpose of this meeting is to inform the families that the russians have accepted our offer and we are bringing their loved ones home. that is not what we're seeing in these negotiations. at this time, look, as we have said the russians should accept our offer. they should accept our offer today. >> reporter: and as cnn has reported that's an offer that the united states made to russia to exchange a russian who is detained in exchange for some of the u.s. citizens that are being held abroad, jake, but that is not something the russians have engaged with the white house on. it's caused a lot of frustration internally so that means there's not going to be any big updates tomorrow but the white house said it was important for president biden to meet with these families face-to-face to let them know this is still an issue he is working on and does still want to bring their loved ones home.
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>> this upcoming meeting comes right after prominent hostage negotiator in the past former u.s. ambassador governor bill richardson traveled to moscow. john kirby, a spokesman for the national security council, the white house was on "the lead" yesterday and told us the white house didn't condone this visit and any americans in russia should leave including richardson. does biden's meeting, do you think, have anything to do with richardson's trip. >> reporter: the white house is saying to bill, thanks but no thanks. jake as you know he has a history in helping with these kind of negotiations for americans who are wrongfully detained abroad but the white house is saying it really had to do more with the scheduling of these families that one was going to be in town but when it comes to richardson, he does not speak on behalf of the united states government and the state department has a travel advisory in place warning americans not to travel to russia at this time. that is including bill richardson who recently did, jake. >> all right, kaitlan collins,
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white house. sources telling cnn he complied with a subpoena. the highest ranking trump official known to do so in the federal investigation that's extended beyond the u.s. capitol attack. to examine various efforts to overturn the election. to meet the obligations of the previously unreported subpoena, meadows handed over the same tears he provided the house select committee investigating january 6th. >> there's no doubt some of the stuff we found has really set off the justice committee into these paths. >> reporter: that document dump included thousands of text messages and emails like sean hannity. >> give it up for mr. donald trump. >> reporter: pleading for meadows to ask trump to call off the rioters january 6th. ask people to peacefully leave the capitol and texts from gop lawmakers like this from jim jordan to meadows saying on january 6th, 2021 vice president mike pence as president of the senate should call out all elect electoral votes he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral
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votes at all. meadows responding i have pushed for this. while meadows withheld hundreds of messages citing executive privilege it's unclear if meadows will give doj more >> that's the big question. will he cooperate, he was the intermediary for trump with the outside world in a lot of respects so obviously he's very valuable to prosecutors if they're really looking at trump. >> reporter: ben williamson also getting subpoenaed for records and testimony. both williamson and an attorney for meadows declined to comment. even as doj fires off subpoenas to dozens in trump's orbit the former president downplaying the probe into efforts to overturn the election. falsely claiming plots to put feared fake slates of electors happen all the time. >> i can tell you many people have been for many, many years doing alternate slates. >> reporter: trump insisting he played no role in that despite this testimony from the rnc chair during a house select committee. >> what did the president say when he called you?
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>> essentially he turned the call over to mr. eastman who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the rnc helping the campaign gather these contingent electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing changed the result . >> reporter: and with doj scrutinizing the 2020 election and trump's handling of classified materials, the former president still believes he'll escape indictment. >> i can't imagine being indicted. i've done nothing wrong. >> reporter: now, when it comes to that investigation into the former president holding on to these potentially classified documents we are still waiting for the judge to weigh in on a number of important issue, who is the special master going to be. if she'll let the probe of the documents marked classified continue and we're waiting on the doj appeal. >> all right, thanks so much. excellent as always. 75 days in jail.
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that is the sentence handed down by a federal judge today for the trump supporter who was photographed wearing a camp auschwitz sweatshirt inside the u.s. capitol on january 6th. robert packer pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor trespassing charge. that sentence is steep compared to other rioters who pleaded guilty and were not accused of violence but the judge said he factored in his lengthy criminal history when deciding the sentence. by the way, just in case you were thinking don't judge a book by its cover underneath his sweatshirt he was wearing a nazi t-shirt. the january 6th committee is asking for thousands of more emails from trump lawyer john eastman. eastman is the man who came up with the far-fetched unconstitutional false theory that then vice president mike pence could block congress' certification of joe biden's election win. the house select committee told a federal judge it needs another 3,200 3,200 pages of his emails to
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complete the report by the end of this year. earlier i spoke with committee member congresswoman liz cheney for a new cnn documentary that's airing this sunday, i asked cheney about another part of their investigation, the role that violent far right militias played in the capitol attack and possible communications between those militias and members of the trump orbit. >> the justice department has indicted several members of the proud boys and the oath keepers, these far right militias for seditious conspiracy. we understand they were inspired and incited by trump and thought they were doing what he wanted. but there seems to be some missing pieces. i know some of that is because flynn took the fifth. pleaded the fifth. stone won't testify. mark meadows won't steph. dan scavino won't testify. the people who have this information won't give it to the american people. what's there? what can we expect to learn more about the direct ties between these oath keepers and proud boy
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far right seditious conspiracists and the trump people? >> those individuals that you've mentioned are people that have likely have critically important information and i think that, you know, again, the justice department has the ability to get that information in ways that as a committee we may not. you know, donald trump, i think it was in the first debate, he told the proud boys to stand back and stand by. repeatedly refused to condemn them. has since january 6th been very clear about saying that, you know, he thinks that the country owes an apology to those who have been indicted, those who have been convicted, some have pled guilty to seditious conspiracy and when we're, you know, at a moment in our nation's history where we sort of let that go so lightly, you know, it's seditious conspiracy. this was an effort to use violence to overthrow the
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government. >> congresswoman cheney will be one of many people part of the cnn special report this weekend along with key witnesses from the january 6th committee's investigation, catch "american coup" this sunday night 9:00 eastern only here on cnn. the increase in threats to law enforcement that a lawmaker described today as stuns, that story next. the stronger, lasts-longer energizer max. and a free eye exam starting at just $79.95. and they don't even have tbe identical! one pair can be practical and sturdy, while the her pair is super stylish and wildly good-loing. ♪ my name is austin james. as a musician living with diabetes, fingersticks can be a real challenge. that's why i use the freestyle libre 2 system. with a painless, one-second scan
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issue of crime, trying to put democrats on the defensive. and now it's becoming a key backdrop for the senate race in wisconsin between incumbent republican senator ron johnson and his democratic opponent wisconsin lieutenant governor mandela barnes. cnn's omar jimenez now takes a closer look at how the defund the police strategy is playing out in this race. >> i'll make sure our police have the resources and training they need to keep our community safe. >> he's going to reallocate money away from the police department. >> reporter: in the deed even wisconsin senate race incumbent republican ron johnson and democratic lieutenant governor mandela barnes are engaged in a fierce debate over public safety. >> dangerously liberal on crime. >> our folks statewide are extremely motivated. >> reporter: brian schemming is a conservative political strategist in wisconsin. >> there's a lot of people concerned about their personal safety. it's not just a core city problem. it's on a much larger scale the awareness of it.
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>> reporter: wisconsin did see a more than 70% jump in homicides from 2019 to 2021. like many states did, red and blue. driven by a number of factors including the covid-19 pandemic. in august republicans nationwide spent $11 million on ads about crime but 25 million on adds about inflation. then in the first two weeks of september 9 million on inflation but also now 9 million on crime. and in wisconsin jumping on comments made by lieutenant governor barnes weeks after the murder of george floyd in 2020. >> we need to invest more in neighborhood services and programming. where will that money come from? well, it can come from overbloated budgets and police departments. >> reporter: but he's making clear now that's not what he's running on. >> they're claiming i want to defund the police and abolish i.c.e. that's a lie. >> reporter: while a statewide poll shows crime is a top issue it still ranks behind inflation when it comes to voter concerns. it also shows johnson is
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supported by 97% of republicans polled and barnes by 96% of democrats. >> we're talking about less than 200,000 voters who are genuinely torn right now about what they're going to do. >> and does that make it difficult to strategize? >> this crime and public safety issue is a base motivator for republicans. but i don't think crime or public safety is going to be the issue that ultimately determines where those 150 to 200 thousand swing voters land. >> reporter: tom otto is one of those swing voters, voting trump and ron johnson in 2016, barnes and democratic governor tony evers in 2018, then biden in 2020. >> i usually don't make my decision until i'm standing in line getting ready to vote. >> reporter: while he mentioned crime is a concern, inflation came to mind first. >> people i don't think realize how bad it is. yeah, you come to a farmer's market and it looks wonderful.
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but how many people can afford it? >> reporter: democrats in this swing county are hopeful for a pickup and worry about the alternative. >> do you feel optimistic heading into this election? >> no. fear. >> reporter: in a deeply polarized state like wisconsin both parties are counting on their messaging to persuade voters in the middle and motivate their bases to turn out. >> one thing in wisconsin, ron johnson has shown that when he speaks directly to the people in his television advertising he wins them over. >> these crime attacks on barnes, they might work among republicans but i don't see them being a game changer to that middle part of the electorate who this is ultimately going to come down to. >> reporter: now, even still the barnes campaign today announced a coalition of law enforcement officers from across the state who are endorsing barnes. another issue we heard from voters on, social security. a majority of voters here in this state are over 50 years old. and ron johnson has floated changing medicare and social
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security from mandatory to discretionary funding to be determined annually. that plus inflation, education and so much more are all going to be considered by these critical swing voters of course as we get ever closer to november. >> all right. omar jimenez in madison, wisconsin. thanks so much. coming up, what the president of china told the president of russia in a face-to-face meeting today that has the world's attention. stay with us. (kari) unlimited premium data. unlimited hotspot data. my pointnt of sale is on point. (vo) switch to verizon business unlimited today. from the network america relies on. so we need something super disctintive. dad's work, meet daughter's playtime. wait 'll you hear this— thankfully, me portal helps reduce background noise. zero lace mode adjusts to low light. and pans and zooms to keep you in frame. take a look at this. so the whole team stays on track. okay, let's get you some feedback. i'm impressed.
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to pay his family $150,000. is this justice? plus the severed head of an african tribal chief and a 500 carat clear cut diamond from a south african mine. the queen's death bringing some of the monarchy's dark past into focus. and leading this hour ukraine where the battle lines are constantly shifting a ukrainian official says more settlements around the strategic southern city of kherson have been liberated. as russia responds. today russia bombed a dam it kruvery which unleashed a deluge of water into villages and forced people to evacuate in what a city official called another terrorist act by russia. cnn's nic paton-walsh got access to the newest front lines closer to putin's doorstep. and he with want to warn viewers some of the images we're about to bring you might find disturbing. >> reporter: the darkness is breaking. quite suddenly up here. and the road to russia's border
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with ukraine strewn with what it left behind in its panic, including its own. two russian soldiers shot dead in fighting about five days ago. yet another sign the kremlin doesn't care who or who it leaves behind. this is vovchansk, the closest town to russia that ukraine has taken back and whose vital railways began the supply chain for most of moscow's war. the russians, everyone says, just packed up and vanished a few days ago. they've always been so close, so part of life here, any joy is not universal. "they were not very good," says andrei. "they didn't shoot anyone, though." "the hardest was to see their checkpoints and their z signs and feel hatred growing in my heart," says tatiana. "they drink their oil and have their gold and diamonds for dessert but just leave us alone