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into this dispute when it comes to classified documents and they said they're clearly the government's property. the former president has no claim to it and they said plaintiff has identified no harm for merely allowing criminal investigators to continue to review and use the same subset of seized material records. that is why courts have exercised great caution before interfering through civil actions with criminal investigations. they're really implying this judge, eileen cannon, they're implying she shouldn't have stepped in and the fact that zest restr she's restricted doj from using them as they continue the investigation. >> elie, our legal mind, does it say something to you that the justice department is only asking an appeals court to put on hold parts of judge cannon's order, not the whole thing? >> it does, don. this is as jessica said a limited appeal.
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it's also a strategic appeal. just for perspective here, we remember doj seized 11,000 documents out of mar-a-lago. they don't like the special master ruling as to any of it. they lost on all 11,000 documents. what they're doing is saying okay, let's carve out the most important to us doj 100 of those documents. they've given up on there being a special master for the other 10,900 other documents but with respect to those classified documents, those should not go to the special master, we should be able to use them in the criminal investigation and national security investigation, by doing that they limited the upside and won't get the special master kicked out all together but limited their downside because if you take an appeal and lose on the whole thing in the 11th circuit, that's really bad for doj and sets a worse precedent for doj so i think they're trying to be tactical and strategic in what they're choosing to go after here. >> this whole process is getting
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dragged out. is trump getting what he wants if this works through up to the supreme court? >> to be sure, don, we have seen donald trump use delay as a legal tactic plenty of times before often successful. we're about six weeks after that search was done at mar-a-lago and the special master hasn't even gotten started yet and now the special master has until november 30th to get this done and we've got a pending at least this request for stay going up to the court of appeals. so yes, this is moving slowly and yes, delay is to donald trump's benefit. >> phil mud, does it make sense judge cannon wouldn't allow the justice department to have access to the classified documents while the special master review was happening? >> i can't figure this out. i could understand how the president wants to go down this path. this isn't just a legal process but a way to continue to argue' the president argued all along he's a victim and that the department of justice and fbi
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seizure docktook documents they shouldn't have taken. that's a political move. it's hard to see november 30th is the deadline for the special master, anybody could look at top secret documents, interceptions of foreign communications and say somehow those are executive privilege or even as elie is suggesting or even to say that there is a reason for a special master to look at those and make a judgment about those. i think that part of a justice decided to make this a narrow case because they're on far more solid ground that saying for example, a letter from rudy giuliani to the president shouldn't be reviewed by the special master. of course it should be reviewed. that makes sense to me. but why review an interception of a foreign communication? that's not an executive privilege document. i think the doj right win on this one. >> let me ask you about this. i know that you have a feeling about this. what do you think about the
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doj's case getting more co compelling or less compelling against the former president? >> i'll tell you, i don't think it's getting more compelling. i don't think january 6th is. i'm talking specifically about the president, not about the case more broadly and to talk about mar-a-lago, i don't think so. elie would know more about this than i do but i know prosecutors and i watched them argue a long time at the table with the fbi. they don't like to lose. you go into this case and say somebody, we don't know who, somebody brought down or authorized the bringing down of a bunch of documents from the white house. somebody kept the documents in a room. somebody decided to tell the department of justice they shouldn't turn those documents over to the fbi and the department of justice. and the president is going to say, i don't know what came from the white house. i didn't tell anybody to do anything. i don't know what this lawyer did. i still don't think that president trump is going to get charged in this case and i would be surprised if he does. i'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong and i'm not saying he's not responsible. i'm saying if your looking for reasonable doubt, i would argue
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he's still got it. >> is this reasonable doubt, elie? do you agree with what he said? is this a case of reasonable doubt here or is that for, you know, something for a jury? >> in the school of law that is. >> yeah, yeah, i get it. elie? >> phil seized on exactly the most important issue and the biggest challenge facing prosecutors and the fbi here is you have to establish knowledge and intent beyond a reasonable doubt. that is not easy. and let's keep in mind, we heard trump's defenses here publicly, which have been all over the map internally contradictory. he doesn't have to make a single defense in court. he can sit back and say you have to satisfy the burden. they won't charge a case until they can establish knowledge beyond a reasonable doubt. phil said there is a lot we don't know. we're getting a lot of important reporting and seeing crucial details in the court filings but the biggest question i have is can prosecutors nail down in a reliable specific way donald trump knew what was happening
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and had intent to break the laws. that's always the biggest challenge and i think there is still a lot of questions if they can do that here. >>master in this case scheduled a hearing for tuesday. what are you expecting from that? >> while this appeal is playing out, the special master has really got to move forward here because the judge said he has ten days to come up with a schedule about how this entire process is going to move forward and actually to come up with that schedule, he needs to confer with trump's attorneys and doj investigators or prosecutors so the special master here, the judge will hold a preliminary conference on tuesday at 2:00 a.m. it will be at the federal courthouse in brooklyn where he sits as a senior judge and he really does have to move somewhat swiftly here. he has to come up with this schedule in conference with the two sidesm. the clock is ticking. he's got until november 30th to review 11,000 documents that includes the 100 classified
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documents. the judge saying he has to review the 100 classified documents first but we'll see if that moves forward given the appeal here but he does have to start moving on this in the meantime, which he is with this hearing on tuesday. >> elie, also this former deputy white house counsel pat told the white house the box of records at mar-a-lago were just news clippings. he says he was told that by mark meadows, mark meadows spokesperson was telling cnn and i quote, mr. meadows did not personally review the boxes at mar-a-lago and did not have a role in examining or verifying what was or wasn't contained within them. he says that he didn't actually know what was inside. so who told meadows that it was just clippings? >> exactly. let the game of finger pointing begin. clearly, this is a false 125i789 they were only newspaper clippings and no
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classified documents. we want to know who knowingly made the false 125statement. saying i didn't come up with this myself, i was told by meadowing saying meadows didn't come up with this himself. again, we're back to the same point as before as a prosecutor, you have to show the knowledge. you need to try to if you can find the chain of communication and finded person that knowingly made a false statement. >> so in this, elie, all these people have to do is say i don't know, it was him? i don't know, it was him. that doesn't work on the street. that doesn't work for the average citizen. why does it work for these guys? >> you're right. because we're in court, not on the street and -- >> no, no, i'm talking about the average person on the street facing a legal case saying it wasn't me and they end up behind bars. >> well, in any case, in any case, prosecutors have to establish their burden of proof.
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they have to show knowledge in any perjury case, you have to show the person that knowingly made a false statement -- >> elie, go with me. the documents -- >> you can do that. >> but the documents are at mar-a-lago. it's like saying i don't know how these drugs got here but they're in my house but i don't know who brought them in. it could have been that person but i -- you own that property therefore it is in your property and that is they're in your position, you go to jail. >> well, let's stay with that analogy, though. that's a really good analogy. let's say you live in a house with 12 other people, apartment building, common house with 12 other people. you can't arrest and indict all 12 people -- >> no, who knew -- >> who to possessed them. >> you live in the house -- >> not necessarily. >> elie, really? >> not unless prosecutors can prove you knew it. let's say you have a large family.
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you have five children and they find drugs somewhere in the house, they can't just go who owns this house? you're indicted. you have to show the proof. don, i'm not sort of being defeatest here. prosecutors do this all the time -- >> elie, we're talking about the drugs. we know the drugs are yours because they came from your other house. [ laughter ] >> that's an important piece of advice. [ laughter ] >> there's a lot of people that had access -- >> the classified documenteds that were in his possession at the other house ended up at his other house but yet, and still, he doesn't know how they got there? elie, come on, man. really? >> no, but his -- well, his response is how many people -- how many dozens of hundreds of people were in and out of the first house and second house? i don't move my own stuff. i'm donald trump. i don't pack boxes with duct tape. i want to make this point.
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it great. i am telling you how prosecutors are thinking and approaching their jobs. i'm not necessarily telling you what is the way we wish the world could be. i'm trying to approach this from a pragmatic point what prosecutors need to prove and establish before they bring a charge. >> i'm not saying we wish it could be. i'm trying to wrap my brain around it and thinking the way people are thinking at home, the documents were in his possession as he was president and ended up in the residence. they were packed into boxes by whoever did and they ended up at his other residence. the chain of possession, he was the one in possession of the documents therefore he was responsible for the documents so if those documents ended up in his residence or in the car in the beast or on air force one, he's the person responsible for maintaining and the possession of those documents. i'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this.
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i don't get it. i don't get it. >> you've got the foundation of a case. you've got the beginning of a case. i doesn't think prosecutors would tell you that they're saying it was in house. it was in house. especially this is unusual. this is the white house. >> not even negligence. >> dozens of people involved. >> negligence is not a crime. you can't charge someone with negligence. >> for top secret documents? okay. nuclear stuff? >> the law says willful which means knowingly and intentional. >> don, you're right, elie is wrong. how hard is this? >> i'm not saying anything. i'm asking questions. it seems to me and to an average citizen like wait a minute. >> no. >> you started, this was your possession and all of a sudden, you moved it somewhere else so therefore it's not your possession anymore doesn't really make sense but maybe legally somehow it does make sense. >> one quick factual point, this is one reason why donald trump doesn't write emails.
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it's he said. she said. there is no email. i never told anybody to do anything. that's what he's going to say. >> jessica is like i'm going to let y'all have this one. >> i got to go. the producers said i got to go. >> go. >> is it a point you need to make or we want to move on? i guess that means move on. >> we can move on. >> thank you guys. see you. have a good weekend. a secret plan to dump desperate men, women and children seeking asylum in the land of the free and the home of the brave, dump them far from anybody or anyplace they know. is it right? is it right to do this or is it just right out of the trump playbook? remember, build a wall, mexico will pay for it.
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is new tonight, 50 migrants sent to martha's vineyard transported to a military base to receive shelter and humanitarian support and desantis is vowing to send more migrants to other states. here with me, bakari sellers and scott jennings. good evening to you. you're right here. let me start with you. governor desantis intends to use every penny of the $12 million in his state budget to relocate these migrants. you have to think what we saw from him, this is just the beginning. >> i mean, i don't really care about that. i think that the root of the problem is that these are men, women and children, these are real life human beings and what you're seeing from governor desantis and governor abbott, individuals that refer to themselves as evangelical christians is anything but. the moorerality of it before yo
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get to the legality of it, they're using men, women and children as pawns and i think that there is a, you know, kidnapping. there is a human trafficking component. they co-horsed people under false pretenses to get on a plane using state dollars and flue them somewhere where they had no idea where they were going and for everyone watching tonight and for my republicans watching tonight, the simple fact is individuals who call themself christian, all right, and i know we have a whole bunch of people watching from different walks of life but individuals who profess themself to be trchristian, what ron desantis did is the furthest thing from it and i hope people watching the show will feel the morality lapse of someone like governor desantis shows he's incapable of being a leader.
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>> the people of martha's vineyard did -- they did step up and provided humanitarian -- >> so the weird part about this entire discussion and i'm, you know, i drink tequila a pew hoh -- few hour hs ago and will drink . the irony in this is the people of martha's vineyard showed what it means to be american. ron desantis did not. >> scott, i want you to get in here. desantis is using taxpayer dollars to send them from texas to martha's vineyard because he said many people that s krcross border end up in his state. >> they've been in texas identifying people trying to come to florida and offering them free transportation to sanctuary jurisdictions so they went from texas to florida to martha's vineyard. >> so scott, talk to me. how is it a good idea to take
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people from one state and send them to another when neither of those states are florida? why is he seeking them out and then getting involved in this? respond to what bar rkari said? >> i'll take your second part first. he's getting involved for two reasons. i heard from a lot of republicans squarely behind what desantis and abbott are doing. he's responding to a republican uprising trying to draw attention to the crisis that is the united states southern border. that's number one. two, there is clearly a political component. judging from what i heard today, he judged that correctly. responding to bakari for a moment about the morality of this, back in the trump years we were repeatedly lectured it was impossible to put up border walls and border security and keep people out. now people are coming and they're being relocated, not just by abbott and desantis but by the biden administration all over the country. >> that's not true.
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>> and that's alsorespectfully,- >> respectfully, bakari, it is true. you're not going to call me a liar on television. >> i'm not calling you a liar on television but what you saw is false because what you saw today -- >> it's not false. >> what you saw from the desantis administration that is different from the biden administration was coercion. you saw a simple fact and this actually is true, this is the legality of it, and what you saw was individuals that got on a plane leaving florida going to martha's vineyard under the impression they were going somewhere else for the purposes of doing something else -- >> why were they found with maps -- why did they have with maps saying you're going to martha's vineyard? >> all you -- >> they were told they were going to martha's vineyard. >> when you get on an airplane
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and someone says that you're going to do something else for the purposes of something else, that's called coercion. and so when people get upset and outraged over the simple fact i saw this is trafficking or this is kidnapping or whatever it may be, the difference between what ron desantis and joe biden are doing is quite simple. you may want to disagree and that's fine but the coercion they used to get these people on a plane. these are men, women and children. these literally are individuals and the funny part about this, scott, you and many others will go out and profess and not you as much as individuals running campaigns are going to go out and profess some ideology that makes you better than us based on some simple point of mortality and i'm simply saying that goes out the window when you co-horse people to go to martha's vineyard and drop them off when they don't know they're
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going there so we can play political games all we want -- >> i don't think -- number one, e d i don't profess to be -- >> i wasn't referring to you. i actually like you, scott. i'm not referring to you. >> number two, they did know where they were going. you're not telling the truth about that. >> because they hand them a map -- >> let's set that aside. >> bakari, scott. hold on both of you. scott, just because they hand them a map -- >> doesn't mean they know where they're going -- >> they're from venezuela fleeing communism, the same thing -- >> i got off the plane in london and they handed me a map and i didn't know where i was going. >> why are you so opposed to -- >> go ahead. you know why i'm outraged? >> i'm confused. >> you know why i'm outrage snd. >> hang on. ask the question, scott, and he'll respond. >> these people came here in the united states, they didn't come here to stop ten -- i don't know exactly where they thought they were going.
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i know this. they thought they were going to the united states. they made it. then they wind up in, you know, a pretty nice place or wind up in new york city -- >> i understand what you're saying. you're missing his point. >> trying -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> hold on, hold on, hang on. >> hang on, bakari. i'm listening to both of you. he was saying they were lured under false pretenses to go someplace under false -- >> i disagree. >> they may have gone to texas thinking they're going to texas or what have you and you send them off to iowa saying these people are going to look out for you and you get there and there is nothing. >> i think the reason that you and i get along very well and i think the reason that people are responsive to us on tv is because we're above the games menship. regardless of how we kdefend it what i'm saying today is that the gamesmenship using actual human beings as pawns, i will debate with you until we are
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blue in the face about tax policy or gas prices or chicken wings and the fact that inflation is a monster right now, i will debate with you that all day. what i don't want our people who are men, women and children being used as political pawns and for me, that takes me to another level of being red hot. >> i got to go. this is what is frustrating. what's frustrating is we're talking about this and not talking about comprehensive immigration policy, they thinks to make a difference. we're talking about political stunts here and we're talking about it because lawmakers aren't talking about it and so that's what is frustrating. i mean, lawmakers aren't talking about it so we're not. they're not doing anything about it. that's what is frustrating to me. we're talking about political gainsmenship and using people as pawns rather than comprehensive policy and that's what we should be talking about. i got to go. the conversation will continue. appreciate both of you coming on. thousands lined up to pay respects to the queen. next, i'll talk to king charles
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thousands of people lining up for hours to pay respects ahead of the state funeral on monday. the line reaching 5 miles long earlier today forcing authorities to close it tonight. joining me now is india hicks. she is king charles god daughter and a bridesmaid at charles and diana's wedding. she's the ambassador to the
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prince's trust. hello to you, india. thanks for joining. we saw king charles and his siblings standing vigil today as a public walk through westminster hall to pay respects. what has this last week meant to you as the world prepares for the queen's funeral on monday? >> don, i think it's much less about me. it's much more about the family who are grieving obviously for their maother, for their grandmother and doing it in such a public way. every single move is scrutinized and watched by the world. must be an incredibly difficult exhausting time for them all. >> india, the queen's eight grandchildren will stand vigil beside her coffin on saturday evening and king charles request both his sons will be in uniform. harry was not in military dress at previous events. he was in a mourning suit.
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this seems like the king's effort to smooth the relations within his own family, no? >> i think when you're going through a funeral on this level where it is not just the united kingdom or the commonwealth but the world watching, i think you do want to come together as a family as much as you possibly can. >> uh-huh. funerals have a way of bringing families together in shared grief and i think there is a lot of people who would like to see prince william and harry mend their relationship. what do you think about that? >> you know, i'm not close enough to have any inside information on that and i think that, you know, as anybody would hope for reconciliation between brothers as much as possible. >> yeah. i meant the general public, not in the inside on the family but i think most people would like to see that. i mean, i think even the people in england would like to see that and the people in america would like to see that.
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is that a fair assessment? >> i think what we need to focus on is there is a core group of working royals and i think what we're geeing to see from the prince of wales who is king charles there will be a modernization of monarchy. they need to be able to survive in someway and being able to modernize is important. king charles and his wife, an incredibly strong willed woman beside him and will to draw in the other generations. think we got a fantastic four. >> you think they can do it because they want to slim down and modernize at the same time. that may be a bit of a task. >> i think we've been seeing that over the past couple of years certainly. the queen has been very good about that, as well and i think that it is necessary and we see that core group of working
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royals doing an astounding amount of work, an astounding amount of good and if you think really a lot of these royals are there for the charitable work that they do and i'm thank you for mentioning both the prince's trust and global foundation. global mission i worked for for awhile but the prince's trust is a strong foundation put in place by prince charles in the way he was working at the world. he was thinking in an environmental and ecological way before we were. he's saying he's hugging trees, of course, we're all hugging trees and using the word sustainable and trying to be more green in our thinking and he was doing that long before any of us. i think that's really interesting. >> yeah, the world came around to where he was at least they met him finally. so princess anne has accompanied the coffin throughout this whole process. what do you think about how she's really risen to the occasion in this moment, india? >> i think she is a sensational
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woman. i think she is absolutely the epitome of a strong english woman that's defined her own role. she's taken her own path in things. again, must be very difficult to be the daughter of the queen. you know, you have to be able to forge your own way and make your own path. i think she's done that and in a very quiet way, in a very solid way but a quiet way, never flashing, never attention seeking, never any drama. >> you know, you posted a photo on your instagram of your mother and the queen and you talk about how the queen would come and stay and on such visits, such a visit, she took issue with your mom's pet mongoose. we have to hear more about that. >> the mongoose, she took issue with the fact the mongoose would come into her room and help
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himself to the box of chocolates. not just one chocolate, it's that he took a bite out of each. don, it is very difficult to know the flavor of a chocolate until you've taken a bite out of it so i'm entirely on the side of the mongoose. >> better chocolate and not her famous sandwich she liked so much. so, you know, i'm sure we can cut the mongoose some sloack. thank you, india. thank you for your time and sorry for your loss. >> thank you. >> join me, anderson cooper, erin burnett and the u.k. and the world remembers the queen. the state funeral monday 5:00 a.m. eastern. >> president biden meeting with the families of brittney griner and paul whalen. cnn caught up with griner's family. what they're saying, next. a dedicated fidelity advdvisr looking at your full financial picture.. this is what it's like to have a comprehensive wealth plan
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after the meeting, brittney griner's wife cherelle griner telling abby phillip she believes administration is working hard but haven't quote quite figured out what russia wants in return for brittney griner. what is your reaction to that? >> sounds consistent with what i've heard and thanks for having me back, don. i think that the -- there is some stagnation because of the russian side at the moment, not the american side. >> a senior administration stra official said there was movement but not breakthroughs on getting these americans back. did the biden administration miscalculate when they offered their deal earlier this summer? >> i don't know if they miscalculate about the deal but i wonder if they miscalculate making it public. there very well may have been a great reason for doing that. it still baffles me. the fact that we have seen no
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deal yet is, you know, makes one wonder if that was a good idea. >> biden is also praising the courage of paul whalen's family. he has been in prison for more than three years after being convicted on espionage charges that he denies and that the u.s. has denounced. what do you think putin's gain is here? >> i think putin's gain is to a, get back viktor bouten, russian to be named later i guess and b, to kind of troll us. i think he sees opportunity and creating us versus them dynamics in our discourse and he knows that causes political chaos here. we can't really win on the battle field in ukraine so why not, you know, create chaos in the united states. i suspect that's what it's about. >> the former new mexico governor bill richardson was in moscow this week. he helps work to bring american held abroad home but the white house was pouring some cold
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water on his efforts. are they worried this could under cut their own efforts? >> i don't know about that. i mean, to me, if this thing is too sensitive for governorproba sensitive to announce offers in public. i doesn't make a lot of sense to me. this is the rivalry between the governor and the government, you know, at times. it just seems unnecessary and i don't know why they would pour cold water on it like that. >> thank you, be well. >> thanks, don. the ceo of paypal threatthr threatening to end their relationship with the phoenix suns, why, next. robiotic. you see... your gut has good and badad bacteria. and when you get off balancece, you may feel it. the bloating, the gas - but align helps me trust my gut again. plus, its recommended by doctors nearly 2x more
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with the washington football team with the racist nickname, all of a sudden one sponsor after another said you've got to get rid of it, and within a few days a long-standing name, the skins, was gone. and i think that's the same what we're looking at here. it is stunning that he was suspended only one year. although, owners it's a different situation, unfortunately. to get rid of an owner in one of these leagues you have to have three fourths of the other owners get rid of an owner and of course a lot of them are looking around and wondering if they're next. so my sense here is because of the backlash, because we've heard from lebron james, chris paul, obviously the players association, now one of the sponsors, my sense is that sarver is not going to be long for his ownership of the suns and mercury. i've got to believe this is going to end soon because now it's become a public relations nightmare not just for the league but also for him personally. when people don't want you
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around it's really hard to stay around. and i think that that's what's building here. and i think sarver will eventually be gone. >> i want to turn now to the nfl, christine. they are taking some serious heat after releasing a special edition logo for the start of latino heritage month. the logo added what was supposed to look like a tilde over the "n" of the nfl shield. the nfl is saying in a statement the league is proud to celebrate latino heritage month by ilighting nfl players, coaches and staff while partnering with the hispanic heritage foundation and alliance for career enhancement. it appears they had all good intentions but something went wrong here. what was it? >> the accent, the tilde is inappropriate to be used in that way on that letter. and so it is an affront to all spanish speaking people. and what is kind of amazing to me is the nfl covered it for
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