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>> and that majesty famously declared on her 21st birthday broadcast that her whole life would be dedicated to serving the nation and commonwealth. rarely has such a promise been so well kept. >> our sovereign lord, charles the third, now by the grace of god of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland, and of his other realms and territories -- king. for all of us watching this around the world, and many in britain, this week has been a reminder that grieving and loss of something that we all go through. it is a bond that we all share. certainly something i've experienced and begun to explore and a very personal way and a new podcast. it's called oliver's. listen, you can put your cell phone now to the qr code on your tv screen for a link to it. or, you can find the podcast on apple podcasts, or wherever you might listen to podcasts. next episode is
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coming out this wednesday. my guest will beat stephen ♪ ♪ ♪ for all of us watching this around the world, and many in britain, this week has been a reminder that grieving and loss of something that we all go through. it is a bond that we all share. certainly something i've experienced and begun to explore and a very personal way and a new podcast. it's called oliver's. listen, you can put your cell phone now to the qr code on your tv screen for a link to it. or, you can find the podcast on apple podcasts, or wherever you might listen to podcasts. next episode is coming out this wednesday. my guest will beat stephen
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>> i'm so glad you mentioned that. i don't know if it was appropriate to talk about it, but i think it's important as we watch this family grieving so publicly this week, and how tough it is for everyone. things we don't really share. and i know you lost a brother, you lost your mom. i lost my sister, i lost my dad and my grandmother and my stepdad. and it's things that families sort of keep to themselves. but this family is grieving right out in the open. i'm not sure that makes it any easier, that. the podcast that you have, i commend you for doing it. i think it's amazing. thanks for doing that. anything you want to share about this? >> yeah. an interesting. i think in watching this family worry, everyone is reminded of
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their own losses, of the grief that they've experienced. i had to say something earlier on the air that i thought was really, really right on the money. there was that shot of the vehicle with the king and camilla driving off alone, back to the palace after the burial. you pointed out that it's often after the funeral, after the crowds have gone away, that the reality of death, the reality and the pain of the loss really sink in. the adrenaline is gone, and you're left still feeling all these things. and yet, the world is not mourning with you. -- the residual effects, and living with loss, and living with grief. and 30 40 years after my brother's death -- it's something i'm still wrestling with. >> my dad died when i was known, as you know my sister died in 2018, and met grandmother in 2000. in 1997, my dad 1996. it's been a whole thing.
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but you're right. everyone is there for the memorial service, the funeral, and then you go back to your home or wherever you at this, and go, when we do now? thanks for doing the podcast, anderson. >> this is don lemon tonight. 50 days until the midterms. fasten your seatbelt, everyone. it's gonna roll by fast. it's not that long. and this is no ordinary election. this is an election that could decide what american politics looks like for years to come. more candidates on the right keep trying to out-maga each other, staging political stunts like flying planeloads of immigrants to martha's vineyard, which got rhonda sanders i can't standing ovation in kansas.
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take a look. there it is. republicans once thought they were gonna breeze into power in november, face our reckoning with anger over extreme courts conservative majority. courtesy of the former president overturning the right to abortion. and what does all this tell us about 2024? as joe biden keeps his party hanging on. >> look. my intentions i said to begin with. i would run again. but it's just an intention. it is a different decision? that i run again? that remains to be seen. >> remember i asked this question to the press secretary and everyone got all bent out of shape? [laughs] . well there you go. we're gonna dig into all that coming up. plus, catastrophic flooding happening now.
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there is nearly an island -- thousand water rescues as hurricane fiona batters puerto rico five years after the devastation of hurricane maria. we're live on the ground or some people are telling us this storm is even worse, and then there's a bombshell new development of the crime story that came in the session for millions of people. the judge vacating the murder conviction of adnan syed, the subject of the first season of the serial podcast who has maintained he is innocent and the 1999 slaying of his ex girlfriend. after more than 20 years behind bars. but that's not the end of the story. want to come on that as well. plus this. the sights and sounds of the queen's final journey. the hearse covered with flowers tossed by her subject. the royal families moments of private grief the middle of all that pageants yates shared with millions of people around the world. even the youngest royals, prince george, prince charlotte,
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morning the queen they knew best as their great grandmother. her funeral ending with the sound of the back pipe. ♪ ♪ ♪ that was the sound that woke her up every morning from most of her life. we've got a lot to come on all that tonight. make sure -- we with me now. yep -- the contributing editor of wired. good evening, everyone. what are we gonna talk about? we have so much news, right? it's a big news night. i want to ask you about the new york times reporting that donald trump was warned that is one time white house lawyer eric herschmann, late last year, that he could face legal
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liability if he did not return government materials that he had taken when he left office. there's still so much we don't know about this. >> we keep hearing more, but it's all of a piece, right? this is eric herschmann, who so unvarnished and his interviews with the january six committee, tongue the president, according to new york times reporting, last year, so the ex president, to be clear, that if he didn't return these documents, that he was hoarding in mar-a-lago, that he can face serious legal jeopardy. what that does is it blows up the excuse that there's no way trump knew, when he was living in some delusional fantasyland, exceed been told by one of his deputy white house counsel is that there was legal jeopardy, he had to return the documents and it was serious, and ignored it. >> but he and his folks were saying that complied with everything. >> that's a lie. that's a lie. >> straight up, it's a lie. >> it's a lie. we know from the documents, from his lawyers, he said he turned over everything when he didn't. they held on to other documents. >> it sounds like they were at least trying to obstruct justice, but they knew that they were asking for some sort
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of documentation, and they weren't willing to hand it over. whether he believed he had to be classified at me at a right to it, that's another story, but they weren't fully open with what they had. >> do you believe he's lying, garrett? >> i. do and to tires, 0. 1 thing that we also saw happening tonight is that trump is refusing to comply with the questions from the special master in the email investigation. or the document investigation. and what's interesting about that is that one of the things that he is refusing to answer is whether he actually declassified the documents and thus they would have been his to hold on to. of course, that's not actually what the doj subpoena called for in the first place. they called for documents with
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classification markings. regardless of what they were actually but -- >> that's all distraction, right? >> it's all a distraction. and what's interesting is that this is sort of just trump being trump, which is he asked for a special master, gets the special master, then refuses to cooperate with the special master, and it's -- in a, one of the oddities of this. we talk about this 50 days out from the midterms. it's not it's gonna be thanks to donald trump and donald trump alone that we talk about this every day between now in the midterms. >> i gotta talk about it. but just want to give folks an idea. this is according to the times. not long after the conversation, trump returned 15 boxes, including 184 classified documents in january. but he still held on to a lot, including the documents with the highest security classification. so i want to say that. but we'll be talking about this a lot. here's my question. we're 50 days out until election day. republicans want to talk about immigration and inflation. democrats want to talk about the roe decision, so much is at stake care. and the outcome could really determine what the country faces over the next few years. how do you see it, tara? >> i think they're running two different campaigns right now. >> which one's gonna work, which once more effective?
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>> that's the question. it's a matter, i think, of geography and location. i think if you're living on the border, immigration may trump the economy to you. right. and immigration is a huge issue for people living on the border. economy is a pocket issue that goes across the globe, but i think if your woman, you may be more concerned about the rare issue. so i think it really targets voters in different places, and it might not necessarily divide along partisan lines, this election. i think it depends on what you value. if you think republicans are better at handling the economy, immigration and crime, you may vote for republican if you think that democrats are better at -- handling health care, abortion, climate, and those are priorities for you, know about that way. >> i think the additional thing and that cycle priorities is democracy. typically, democracy isn't on the ballot in the way that people are saying it's one of the things that are motivating their boat. typically, the pendulum swing of a midterm election is gonna
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swing to the opposition party. everyone knows that. that's the way the gravitational pull works. but with so on all trumpy inserting himself, it's mitch mcconnell's worst nightmare. -- my choice election between democrats and donald trump. and so, republicans absolutely will get him naje from immigration, crime, inflation. democrats have the overreach of euro, that got democracy, they've got other issues like health care in the environment. this we much closer than a typical midterm election might be. >> crime, inflation, right? those things appeal to democrats and republicans. and then you also have the issue of roe v. wade, which also appeals to republicans as well. and democrats. these are issues that mean something to both parties. >> yeah. i think one of the challenges here, of course, is john saying, there are two republican parties fighting two very different messages this fall. you have kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell. they want to talk about inflation, they want to talk about the economy, they want to talk about gas prices, they want to talk about immigration. donald trump is gonna be out there every day, trying to pull the party more into his own
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view. this is where you actually have, in some ways, ron desantis and the martha's vineyard migration stunt sort of -- these two guys out there sort of out manga each other in a way that actually, i think, is gonna be one of the major narratives between now and november. >> look at what happened with ron desantis, he's got the ovation from gop voters. the vineyard issue. does this tell you where republicans are right now? is he trying to out maga trump? >> i think it was effective in terms of making an immigration come to the forefront. -- 2 million people are up for handed that the border, the highest number during the biden administration. we're talking about immigration again, and whether we like it or not, ron desantis did that.
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>> i push back on that. first off -- barring a plan that abbott had been doing. he elevated it, trying to out-troll trump and desantis. but there's a danger of political backlash with ron desantis. not in a conservative conference. >> i'd laugh, because there was a sign that got thrown out saying unite to win. that's not what we're seeing any evidence of right now. for the fact that these were, you know, refugees from a left-wing dictatorship, venezuela, for tom huntley, i
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think that actually have unintended consequences for ron desantis back home nationally. it might ease the clear -- moral clarity that a lot of florida republicans have when it came to places like the maduro regime. here, the zoom room refugees from the major -- >> pieces unit to win, he's not talking about republicans and democrats uniting. he's talking about unite behind the big lie. >> i don't think that's uniting message for the republican party or -- >> all right. i've got to talk to you about this. president biden this week telling 60 minutes that his intention to run for president, that is not so sure about whether he's gonna do it. it wasn't a firm decision.
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do you think this is more instability when, you know, he needs to make up his mind? especially when it comes to the democratic party? >> now. i mean top -- fire, you jump in here. >> i think all this does is make all the potential 2024 rivals get even more to stop and ready to talk to their donors and build their networks. i've known all along from white house officials that this was always never a big plan. this was a joe biden joe discussion. the family have a lot at stake. you've got 100 biden under the microscope, you've got ashley biden under the microscope. nick he's gonna be 87 at the end of his term. there are a lot of death -- >> and of the second term, he would be. >> but still. this was never gonna be a full conclusion. -- he decided in 2015 he wasn't gonna run because of the death of his son.
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his family is always been a really big part of this. >> tara is exactly right there. i think we over prescribe to him sort of a political cynicism. it's actually just sort of really, joe biden being joe biden. and in 2016, and that election, he made a very personal decision not to run because he didn't feel that his heart wasn't it. i think we're sort of waiting to see that same moment, whether he feels like his hard is it. and by the way, one of the things he's been very clear about is that he can beat donald trump. he has beaten donald trump. and if he feels that the republican party is tackling back to donald trump, that's gonna keep him in the fight longer. >> you're reading my mind. because the polls show no, i mean, many of them, that he's the only person right now in the democratic party -- this no one else really out there who can beat donald trump. i mean, he is good. this is the thing. people get upset, especially democrats, when you talk about his age and stamina and all that. he said that in 2020 himself. i know my age is a factor. and democrats get all bent out of shape when you talk about joe biden's age. >> he needs that bridge. >> to a new generation. >> this is a bridging moment. the age is just a fact. >> don't be ageist, the. >> but he said it himself. >> he said himself. obviously, for most presidents, the fact he run for reelection is a given. it's not for joe biden. that's a, i don't think it's surprising he's not announcing before the midterms. i know there's a lot of democrats looking at their own contingency plans as a result, but let's have the midterm election before we dive feet
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first. >> it's politically smart what he's doing. everyone wants him to declare -- the reading into whatever his answer is. but i think it's politically smart. >> and you think also that they channeled, they're having a dmc -- instead forming his own campaign. it actually suggests that they're preparing for the fact that he may not run. this might be real more than a political calculation. they're preparing for a possible other candidate that can slide right into the dmz's apparatus rather than the biden campaign. >> here's one thing i know for sure. we will know whenever he decides. he'll tell us. thank you all, i appreciate it. a texas sheriff says migrants were exploited, quote, exploited, and hoodwinked when they were transported to martha's vineyard, and he's not the only one calling for an investigation into what happened to so many desperate men women and children. straight cnn's miguel marquez has been covering. >> this man says he had a 40 -day journey from venezuela to the u.s. border with a child. -- texas to d. c.. >> [interpreter] we didn't know where we are going, he says. the bus left of's here, and now they didn't tell us where we wear. it just left us here. and that's it. [end of translation] answer a few questions and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds we'll come to you pay you on the spot then pick up your car that's it at carvana
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>> run calls for federal investigation after migrants were shipped to northern blue states by republican governor ron desantis and greg abbott. democrats and activists are accusing the republican governors as using these immigrants as pawns in a political stunt. alleging the earlier it on to buses and planes with but this promises of aid only to lead them stranded. tonight, a texas sheriff is announcing an investigation into the flight that brought 48 migrants to martha's vineyard. watch. >> i believe they were preyed upon. someone came from upstate, preyed upon these people, lured
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them with promises of a better life, which is what they were absolutely looking for. and with the knowledge they were gonna cling to whatever hope they could be offered for a better life, to just be exploited and hoodwinked into making this trip to florida and then onward to martha's vineyard from what i believe to be nothing more than political posturing to make a point. >> so exploited and hoodwinked, he said. joining me now is don fernandez. he represents martha's vineyard. thank you, representative. appreciate you joining. >> good to be with you.
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>> thank you. representative, i want to ask you. this texas sheriff is alleging that a migrant web paid to recruit people from this -- who would then, quote, lured to a hotel before being flown first to florida and then to massachusetts. what's your reaction to this news? >> well, look. i stand with the sheriff. i agree with him. there needs to be an investigation into this. we've been calling on the department of justice to do just that. not just is this some criminal thing to do, but there are clear legal implications here around deprivation of liberty, human trafficking, fraud. this need to be looked into. we're calling on the doj to open investigation and talk to our u.s. attorney here, and she is willing to push on this as well. she's willing to call for accountability. i was at the facility today where i talked to several
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individuals, and they recounted their story to me. and it's true that there was a woman rounding people up under false promises, underlies, bringing them to a hotel, where there was essentially hotel where they were staging people and keeping them there, but then go on these flights. and then, lying to them about where they were going. it seems like not a single person was told that they were going to martha's vineyard. >> let's talk more about that. lawyers for these venezuelan families were saying they landed in martha's vineyard, and are looking into a brochure given to them that promised cash and housing assistance under false pretenses because the program reference doesn't apply to asylum seekers. what questions does that raise for you? >> well, i mean, look. again, this is a criminal act in my mind, and it needs to be investigated. and these people were lied to, and think about this. i talked to an individual today
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who walked over 60 days just to get to the border. he was fleeing from violence. fleeing from gangs. fleeing from a breakdown in his home country only to be masked not with compassion but wait a governors administration that wanted to use him as a political pawn, and lied to him, putting him on an airplane, and ship them off like cattle with 49 other people to a place where he didn't know where he was going. that's incredibly cruel and depraved, to use these people as political pawns just said tucker carlson, just so governor dick scientists can get on tucker carlson and talk about being tough on immigration. at the end of the day, these are families. these are children. there's nothing tough about using children and families as political pawns. governor desantis is an incredibly weak human being. what is strong is how our community rallied together to support these people at a moments notice. i believe this community represents the best of this country. >> i've gotta say,
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representative, these republican governors insist that nobody is being transported against their will. they are not making decisions based on false pretenses. do you buy that? what do you say to that? >> well, i can tell you as a fact but the migrants would call that out as complete be as. they tell me that they were lied to you. they told me they were deceived. they told me today that when they got off the plane and realized they were on an island, they pulled up on a phone and saw that there was water
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surrounding them, they were terrified. they had no idea where they were. they thought they were -- they did not know, not a single one of them knew they were going to martha's vineyard. so, what these governors are saying is a lie. but these migrants are saying is the truth. we need to be respectful for them, and we need to show them the compassion and care that any human being deserves. that's what we're doing here in massachusetts. >> as i understand, you're one of the voices now calling for a federal investigation into governor desantis and others, what they've been doing. when you to keep us updated on that. thank you so much, i appreciate it, representative. be well. >> pleasure, thank you, don. >> rescuers scrambling tonight. hurricane fiona slamming into puerto rico. at least two did from this storm live and san juan. we'll be there right after this. 24 hour protection. prilosec otc one pill, 24 hours, zero heartburn.
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>> hurricane fiona still battering puerto rico with heavy rains and life-threatening flash flooding. emergency teams are working to rescue those trapped. a fema official says the catastrophic rain is making it challenging at this hour. at least two people have died and hundreds of thousands are without power. cnn's leyla santiago has the latest. >> almost the entire island of
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puerto rico remains in the dark after hurricane fiona slammed into the southwestern coast -- rainfall causing catastrophic mudslides and flooding. the storm coming just as parts of the island are finally recovering after the structured five years ago. >> it was rough. we were just working to get back. this neighborhood, get it back from maria. everything is destroyed. restaurants, houses, everything was destroyed. and we just -- not all the way back, but we have gone way back. a lot of people, more than maria, lost their houses. lost everything in their houses, because of flooding. >> this is the neighborhood where the national guard had to come and rescue people. still a lot of flooding. i can hear generators powering the home, and it is still pouring down with rain. neighbors looking out, wondering exactly what will come next as hurricane fiona, the remnants of it, continue to demolish this area. >> the family rescued overnight is now safely in a shelter. >> [interpreter] she says this was worse than maria. she's pointed out that they've
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already been underwater for 24 hours, and the rain is still coming down. she's concerned about the 2500 families that she says are impacted by this here. [end of translation] >> about 1000 people rescued from floodwaters. hundreds of rescue efforts are still underway. the interior part of the island, 24-year-old -- watched this bridge come apart and just minutes and wash down the referee. on the west side of the island, rainfall swelling the river, suppressing its previous record height at 28. 59 feet. set during hurricane maria. now gauging to over 29 feet. the national weather service said so. while a few hospitals have regained power, emergency workers are racing to get electricity back to the island. >> it takes so long to get things back up because so many -- systems are connected.
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some of the main lines go through the hills there, and if those main lines get damaged, they don't have the ability to get the other sections up and running. >> sunday morning, president joe biden approving an emergency declaration for puerto rico that authorizes all emergency measures needed, including fema. >> there are 300 responders on the ground with fema working hand in glove with the commonwealth and our emergency management structure. >> and tonight, don, we're back insane when, where some of the power has been restored. i checked in with families, and the interior part of the island, that southern coast that was really impacted by hurricane fiona. it continues to be tonight. they tell me they're in the dark, and it's not just power that's the issue. 60%, more than 60% of customers without water on this island as well. take note of the timing. that really speaks to the fear as well. tomorrow will mark five years to the day that hurricane maria
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just demolished this island. and so, for that reason, can understand why there is anxiety and sort of fear from folks who don't want to go months and months again without power. from the government perspective, they say they're still not sure exactly how long it will take. it could take days, but nobody really can guarantee anything, don. >> wow. leyla, thank you so much. i appreciate it. stay safe. queen elizabeth the second laid to rest today. the uk, the royal family, even the queen's beloved quirky is saying one last goodbye. that's next. awe, look at them.
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queen elizabeth ii laid to rest
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in picking george the sixth memorial chapel in windsor tonight. the queens state funeral took place earlier this morning in london where her son and heir, in charles the third was joined by the rest of the royal family and leaders across the world. meng -- honoring the 70-year reign, president joe biden, the first lady jill biden. you see them on the screen. filing the state funeral service, the queen's hearse was taken past buckingham palace won last time. stop they're offering their goodbyes. today ceremonies offer, really, an intimate and personal look at the royal family on one of the saddest days. the king, visibly emotional -- friends of wales and harry, the duke of sussex, seen side-by-side once again. and the queen's great grandchildren and -- george is now second in line
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for the throne after his father. waiting patiently outside windsor castle for the queen's coffin, her beloved portuguese, sandy and make. look at those little cuties. adorable. also waiting, the queen's favorite horse. thousands lining the long walk -- as the last chance for the public to see the queen before the middle service at -- the service, the queen's personal paper played for her one last time as she was reunited with her husband, prince philip. listen. joining me now, karen pearce.
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she's the uk ambassador to the -- ambassador, i should say. so i frivolous. how are you? you are moved. >> i was. this is interesting. throughout the week, it's impossible to hold it together for various public representational reasons. and even this morning, we had an event at the embassy, watching the funeral, and even then -- but tonight, i've been a dinner, which unexpectedly had a tribute to the queen. you have very constantly had a tribute to the queen. and i think the unexpected nature of that just brings home and how many contexts people
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remember. so thank you for your tribute. >> thank you. did it hit you unexpectedly? because you're visibly -- >> well, i knew i can kind of steal myself. but the unexpected decide, i was her majesty's ambassador. i'm incredibly proud to have served her. and now, his majesty's ambassador, and i will give him all my duty. >> what today ceremony, what does it say about -- the second by the queen? what does it say about you, to you, and the uk? what does it mean? >> i think there is an enormous -- as your commentary has shown -- and norma's historic and historical element to this. so many ceremonies gave back to the 11th and 13th sanctuaries.
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some of the costumes go back to that period. and i think what you see and that is a whole parallel play of what the united kingdom has become for a millennium. and that's quite an unusual thing to be able to see. very moving in and of itself i think it was the state paying tribute to the queen, but also its people -- heroic on one side, and the human on the other. >> well, people were lined up -- >> it was amazing. and they threw flowers at the coffin. but, also the number of americans who have come to the embassy here in washington from the precedent down to leave flowers, leave these messages. people talk about the special relationship -- actually, this should've been there to see some of these ordinary people leaving their own tributes. we're incredibly grateful, and it's very moving. >> most of the world, americans, we see buckingham palace -- windsor was special to.
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her and windsor today, we saw the emotional -- what role do you think the new king, king charles, will play on the rolled stage? what can we expect from him? >> i think, first of, all we heard him repledge his duty and service to the people of the uk. but also, the people of the commonwealth, which goes right across the world. 56 nations. he was chosen to succeed the queen as head of the commonwealth a few years ago. i think that's very important. as many people have said, he was been king and waiting for a while. this means he's very knowledgeable about world affairs. i've had the pleasure of talking to him about the balkans and -- he's very good with world leaders. and he's very good at going to
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the heart of the matter. he has a number of issues like climate, which he passionately -- >> let me ask you this. you've got a new prime minister, you have a new king. i don't know if it's small to us, but it's an on precedent. what's your message? when you give us a message? >> it's not for me. i don't give them messages. but it's interesting, as you -- say >> when you want people to know about them? >> this is a new era for britain. it's not just britain. the queen has been on the throne for seven decades. she has come to define as a constant the post-second world war era. and all it's good and all it's bad, as countries changed from the past to the future. she has been there. and now, i think everybody feels, all those world leaders, westminster abby feels, we are in a new era. king charles iii is a symbol of that. as you say, we have to trust the new prime minister -- liz truss, the new prime minister. we will see every week.
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>> an unsigned serving a life sentence after being convicted more than 20 years ago of murdering his high school girl, friend hae min lee, as out of prison. for now. this case has called international attention to that hit podcast serial, and later in hbo t. a. s. today, a baltimore judge proved a motion to vacated syed's conviction and move him just tension.
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prosecutors now face a choice of whether to drop charges or retry the case. >> four from prison after 23 years behind bars, a crowd swarmed adnan syed outside a baltimore circuit court moments after a judge vacated the murder conviction against him. syed didn't stop to speak, whisked away in a car, and was ordered to wear an electronic ankle bracelet until the state decides whether to pursue a new trial against him or drop all charges and the death of hae min lee, his ex girlfriend, a high school student, strangled to death in 1999. her body was discovered weeks later. >> we're not yet declaring, not yet declaring, adnan syed is innocent, but we are declaring that an interest of fairness and justice, he is entitled to a new trial.
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>> syed has maintained his innocence since he was convicted in 2000. defence attorneys have repeatedly tried to have him exonerated. >> and felt like they've gotta have the wrong guy. >> a popular hbo series raise new questions about the case against adnan syed and 2019. >> young lovers from different worlds. >> but it was the hit podcast serial that brought the case and the possibility there had been a miscarriage of justice to national attention in 2014. leads brother, jan lee, telling us this is a podcast -- this isn't a podcast for me. this is real life. whenever i think it's over, it comes back. the motion filed by prosecutors that asked for syed's immediate release after a yearlong reinvestigation to the case against him that turned up -- 21 port -- 21 page document. the unreliability of cell phone data used in the original trial, advances in dna testing, and most critically, nearly developed information about two
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alternative suspects and the state's failure to disclose critical information about the suspect's to the defense at the time of the trial. >> our investigation uncovered that one of the suspects threatened miss lee, saying he would make her disappear. he would kill her. we also received information that provided motive for that same alternative suspect. >> a final decision on whether to actually proceed with the new trial will likely hinge, according to prosecutors, on the results of touch dna testing of some items recovered from the crime scene. a technology that didn't exist at the time of the crime. still, for throngs of syed's supporters, this is the first victory more than two decades in the making. for the family of hae min lee, the start of another search for answers in the death of their beloved. >> this family is interested in -- that killed hae min lee. >> the lee family is said to be in a state of shock according to the attorney representing them. they're disappointed by how quickly hearing happened, and they're considering their options for an appeal following syed's released from prison.
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>> new developments tonight in the investigation into classified documents found at mar-a-lago. the new york times reporting then white house lawyer eric herschmann warned the former president late last year than he could face legal trouble if he didn't return government documents he had taken after you left the white house. this comes as both team trump and the justice department summit key filings tonight to the special master reviewing those materials. next, former nixon white house counsel john dean and seen and senior legal analysis, elie honig. gentlemen, good evening.
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let's start with you. your reaction to this new york times reporting that trump knew there could be legal troubles if he didn't return legal documents but refused to anyway. what do you think? >> don, you and i have been talking a lot the last several weeks about the importance of proving knowledge and intent. as i described on the show, one of the most difficult tasks for prosecutors if you have to establish beyond arenas nimble doubt not just the duck arguments for their. that's easy to establish. but donald trump knew they were there, and that he had a criminal intent. well, if you have a reliable bowl person, a lawyer like eric herschmann saying, i told him to his face you have these documents, these could get in trouble. that shows donald trump knew he had the documents and it shows he knew holding on to that was wrong and some respect. that could be a really crucial piece of evidence, plan. >> john, according to this report after his conversation with eric herschmann, trump returned 15 boxes to the national archives but held on to other documents with the highest security
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classification. does that raise the stakes in this investigation? >> i think it does. as elie points, that the intent issue is always a question mark. we don't know what he knew and whether he realized we -- it's required under the statute. apparently, the conversation, they don't know precisely the day -- it's late 2021. -- he's probably trying to give him some good, friendly advice, because trump is, at that point, in a hefty discussion with the national archives. he's trying to get documents he starts returning 15


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