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love and can be made easier by talking about and hearing others experiences. -- you have so far found for moving funny conversation with stephen colbert, whose dad and two brothers, were killed in a plane crash when he was just ten years old. it is probably the most profound and moving conversation i've ever had with someone in public life by their personal grief. what stephen colbert talked about has really helped me. and i think it's going to help you. you can find all there is an apple podcast, wherever you get your podcasts. i hope you give it a listen and let me know if you think. the news continues. i want to handed over tonight to don lemon tonight. this is don lemon tonight. >> and this really hasn't been a good 24 hours for donald trump. -- in large part because of this. >> first, off because of his handpick special master, basically told him to put up or shut up. now a federal appeals court is calling on his legal team, for refusing to provide a shred of evidence for his claims that he declassified documents found in the search at mar-a-lago. so, they are allowing the
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justice department to continue looking with those documents, upending a trial -- a trial judges, i should say, ordered, three of you be blocked, walk the review. and first on cnn, the sources that ginni thomas a conservative activist -- agreeing to talk to the january 6th committee in the coming weeks. and don't forget, that massive lawsuit against the former president, three of his adult children and the trump organization, alleging that their whole business is, essentially, a giant fraud. that's what these documents say. that's what they allege. letitia james, the attorney general of new york, says that the fraud was, and i quote here, approved at the highest levels of the trump organization, including by mr. trump himself. she alleges that eric trump, ivanka trump, and donald trump junior, knowingly participated in the schemes. she says trump and his company lied more than 200 times about
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the value of his assets, and she is seeking a quarter of a billion dollars, that's a billion with a b -- intellectually ill gotten funds -- as well as seeking to bar the trumps from ever running a business in the state again. the former president denies any wrongdoing and accuses the attorney general attorney general, a democrat, the political vendetta. there is a lot to get to in the coming hours here on cnn. want to get straight to our justice correspondent, jessica snider, cnn senior legal analyst laura coates. -- allowing the justice department to resume the review of these classified documents. what can you tell us? what do you know about it? >> don, this was a unanimous three judge panel, notably with two trump appointees. and they gave doj with the prosecutors there have been asking for repeatedly over the past week plus. so, now, doj will be allowed to resume using those 100 plus classified documents that the
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fbi seized from mar-a-lago in their search about a month ago. they can use it in their ongoing investigation. this has been a huge point of contention for prosecutors because the lower court judge, eileen cannon, had halted their use of these classified records, meaning they could not use it for grandeur grand jury purposes or with witnesses. now, they can. an appeals court stressed here when they sided with doj that really it could harm the country, if investigators couldn't use that material. here is what they said in part. it is self evident that the public has a strong interest in ensuring the storage of the classified records did not result in exceptionally grave damage to national security, ascertaining that necessarily involves reviewing the documents, determining who had access to them and when and deciding if and any sources or methods were compromised. the doj needs to look at those documents. and now, the doj has the greenlight to resume using them
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all of the special master, meanwhile, and trump's legal team, they will no longer have access to classified documents. that was the second thing that the doj asked for. so a big win for the lj at the 11th circuit, don. >> laura, listen, all of this was because the team trump wanted a special master -- blah blah and so on and so on and so on. what impact does the doj appeal have on what the special master is deciding now? >> it's limiting now. you know that tina turner song, what's love got to do with it, don? now it's a matter of what declassified documents had to do with discussions about what might be privileged documents? that's essentially what the appeals court said. you've got these 100 documents that are about classified materials, have these various labels on them that say, look, you're not supposed to look at this. by allowing a special master for anyone to seal it under the pretext of i am looking for privileged documents, you are going to allow people who don't otherwise have clearance, or are otherized authorized to see
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could be the most sensitive information and see it. now the -- eliminated in that. another part of that, when we think about classified documents, a lot of this is a self inflicted wound from the trump legal team and donald trump himself by speaking out in public, talking about the possibility that he has the declassified arguments. when it came to actually backing that up in a courtroom, yes, showing the special master, they didn't do so. and that was taken into account today by the 11th circuit, two of whom -- actual trump appointees, one was an obama appointee. that essentially said, when you had a chance to talk to us about what the classified documents and to do with your particular role, you did not do anything, and that was used against them now. >> jessica, and this now prevents, from my understanding, it prevents team trump or trump's team from seeing the records with classification markings, correct? >> it does, exactly. it prevents trump's legal team, as well as a special master, as laura was getting to, from
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seeing the classified documents. and laura mentioned it, what was interesting is that yesterday's hearing before the special master, trump's team had argued that they needed to see the classified documents to determine which ones trump had potentially declassified, and that was another area where the 11th circuit called out trump's legal team. they said that so far, trump's legal team has refused to present any evidence at all the trump declassified any of these documents, plus the 11th circuit middle more point that trump has no claim at all to any of these classified documents, writing, for our part, we cannot discern why why plaintiffs would have an individual interest or need for any of the 100 documents were classified markings. classified documents are mark documents are marked -- all in all, this was, like, a 29-page decision here, and it went point by point to take down trump's legal teams arguments on just about every
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level here. so now the question is, what does trump's team do next? do they appeal to the supreme court? >> it appears, laura, that the supreme court, that will be their only recourse, because there is some question about whether there could be a on bunk review, a new term that i am learning, to the 11th circuit, and that does not apply under the circumstances, correct, is that the way you read it? >> right, first of all, you have a full appellate circuit -- not to expedite the review of matters. as opposed to everyone's to waiting to hear a matter, they have three judge panel 70 different cases. this is one such issue. you've been on bunk decision was rendered, that means they want to go to the entirety of the circuit court. they want to hear from everyone. everyone has to weigh in, have a majority ruling on that. normally, you can do that, except for now there's a rule as of this year in the 11th circuit that says, if it's what called an interim order or on
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order from this day, which is what the doj asked for, a limited review that set, i would like you to put a pin in a particular aspect of a lower courts ruling. i don't want to have to follow that order in a very discrete and confined way, a stay, stay the way it was before the judge ruled anything, a stay -- if it's that, you cannot then go to the rest of the 11th circuit. your recourse is only the supreme court of the united states. and if passed right now, immediately as prologue, the fact you have a majority in the 11th circuit as trump appointees, two of the three you heard this appointees, even though there are trump appointees obviously as nominees in the supreme court, it's pretty clear cut when there is a national security interests at stake, that it's unlikely to change, even if they were to appeal to the supreme court. but, stranger things have happened. >> stranger things have happened. he said a mouthful they're, true enough. thank you very, much laura. thank you, jessica, appreciate it. that monster fraud lawsuit
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filed by the attorney general letitia james alleges that donald trump lied about the value of his properties. so let's take a closer look at the allegations. here's cnn's tom foreman to break it all down for us. tom? >> don, donald trump and three of his children, others in their family business and the trump organization itself are named in this lawsuit by the new york attorney general, who is accusing them of massive fraud over more than a decade. specifically, she says that the trumps and their company made scores of fraudulent, false and misleading representations about the values of their properties, all to deceive people who are giving them loans or insurance or tax officials, don? >> tom, give us some examples. show us exactly how he was allegedly lying about the value of his properties? >> this is where it really gets interesting. let's start in new york with his own apartment in trump tower. yeah trump said it had 30,000
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square feet of space in it. this lawsuit says, no, it was about a third of that, 11,000 square feet up there, and trump claimed it was worth about $327 million. the ag says, no way, no apartment in the city, including newer ones, have ever sold for anything like that. so how about his mar-a-lago club in florida? the lawsuit says trump claimed it was worth as much as $739 million. when, according to the lawsuit, it was actually worth about $75 million. his golf courses, same story there. for example, the lawsuit says that trump bought one course out there for $5 million in 2012. the very next year, claimed it was worth $62 million, on and on and on a goes. the former president took the fifth hundreds of times, when
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asked about this under oath. but when the lawsuit was reveals,,, one of his lawyers came out and said, today's filing is neither focused on the facts or law, it's solely focused on advancing the attorney general's political agenda, absolutely no wrongdoing has taken place. >> okay, but didn't address the numbers, actually, not lining up. what happens if the state can prove their case? >> that's when it gets really interesting for the trumps. the attorney general wants the trumps to forfeit a quarter billion dollars, as you mentioned earlier, and to basically be barred from leading any business in new york. this would just tear the pilings out from underneath the trump empire in new york. this is a civil case, so it cannot send any of them to jail, but a separate criminal tax fraud case against the organization by the manhattan district attorney is expected to go to trial next month, and the ag has referred these new findings to the u.s. attorney and the irs.
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and either could dramatically increased illegal pressure on donald trump and his family. don? >> tom foreman, very well explained, thank you very much, sir. of course, we expect nothing less from mr. tom foreman. appreciate it. new york attorney general letitia james said her investigation started after michael cohen testified before congress. he is here next. >> it was my experience that mr. trump inflated his total assets won it served his purposes, such as trying to be listed amongst the wealthiest people in forbes and deflated his assets to reduce his real estate taxes.
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>> like i said, this really has not been a good day for donald trump. and on the legal front, the monster civil fraud law suit against him by new york attorney general letitia james may be what he cares about the most, because it talks about his wealth, and that his assets were not what he says they are, because she alleges that the trump organization, the company he put his name on, is a giant fraud. i want to bring in michael cohen, donald trump's former attorney and author of the upcoming book revenge: how donald trump weaponized the
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department of justice against his critics and the host of mea culpa podcast. michael, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> you tried. to tell us. >> i did. five years, i have been shouting it from the rooftops. he is a con, he is a fraud, and i have been trying to say that donald trump will do anything. there is no dumpster dirty enough that he will not plan in order to get himself out of liability. >> if what the ag laid out is proven, it will prove that it sounds like, as you said, he is a con, right? you think she can prove it? >> absolutely. i have seen the documents, i know, as you probably saw today, which is why i am here, she credited the beginning of the investigation to my testimony before the house oversight committee. >> so, you said that there is something you believe we are getting wrong about the amount of money that she wants. >> yes. the statements that i am hearing is that she wants to
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under $50 million a settlement. that is not true. what she said it is a baseline of 250 million. she is not going lower than that. because the extent of the theft is so great, my belief is that it will be 3 to 4 times the amount. probably somewhere between 750 million to billion dollars based upon all of the foot. >> we saw what she said, you mentioned, she mentioned you, i want to get to this. this is a former president responding tonight, where else? on fox news. watch this. >> i thought that they would never bring a case, and she brought it. and the reason i thought because she did not have a case, i was of the impression she wanted to settle, but i had a problem because how do you pay something, even if it is a small amount of money, if you are not guilty? this was just a continuation of a witch hunt that began when i came down the escalator at trump tower. >> does that make sense to you? he is saying, in his opinion, that he could have settled, right? >> right. but who settles a
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case when you are not guilty? >> he also said he had a disclaimer when he applied to any loan telling the lenders they have to verify everything themselves. why would any bank go along with that? >> because it's not true. the disclaimer is no different then his de of all of the documents that nobody heard, except for himself. you see, like i said, donald trump will lie. and he lies with impunity in order to justify whatever the question, whatever the issue is that is confronting him. that is his strength. that is his superpower. he lives with impunity, and he does not care. i know it is frustrating. >> it is frustrating because how do i say this, i believe it to be true, most of the time if not all of the time, he does not respond to the actual facts of the case, right? of the information that is alleged. he responds by saying someone is attacking me, it is a witch hunt. he does not say, my
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apartment, you know, that i said was worth whatever million -- >> that i built. >> that i built, it was actually a mistake because it is not worth that. you understand what i'm saying? he is not responding to the facts of the case. he is simply alleging that people are out to get him. >> which is why he went running to fox news. that way, he keeps his base claiming that he is the victim. he is always the victim, it is amazing, right? you know what is interesting, a lot of people i have been picking it up in attorney general james's indictment papers is that they have been requesting certain tax documents by subpoena. he fought it. he lost to the court. he appealed it. meaning donald. he lost that. they took it to the supreme court, and he lost it there. so they turned over some documents, and of course that has to be responsive to the subpoena. guess what? when they raided mar-a-lago, what did they find? documents that would have been responsive to the subpoena. that is now
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obstruction of justice! it is unbelievable. every time you look at a document, you are going to find that there is another illegality that is going on here. you see, again, donald trump is an enigma. he does not care about anyone, or anything, he does not believe the law applies to him, and lies with impunity. there is no other way to describe him. >> i want to go back to my point because what did he say his apartment was worth? i forget. >> 375 million. >> why isn't he responded by saying, this is why my apartment is worth $875 million, or that was an error, or to the specifics of what is alleged rather than the democrats hate me. >> because donald trump has a fragile ego. over the course of -- >> 327 million, right? >> that's right. so, donald trump has a fragile ego. and during the entire trump administration, have you ever once seen him acknowledge
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an error? the answer is no. in fact, in the 12 years that i worked for him, i had never heard him acknowledge an error. he is incapable of error, because donald trump is perfect. and not to mention, he couldn't then fight you on it because he knows it is a lie. >> again, that's why he said he went to where he went, to a friendly media organization, because someone would say to him, i would have said to him, why is your apartment worth $327 million, why did you allege that, was that an error, can you please explain to the public what that means? why is this wrong? why is the attorney general wrong? and he would not have an answer for that, right? >> softball. >> let me ask you about his children, because this is alleging that don junior, ivanka, eric, that they are involved in this. the business is essentially run like a small family. >> it is a small family company. >> talk about the role in all of this, because you know, you are were there.
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what do you based out of trump towers? >> yes. as i have stated, i had worked with allen weisselberg on these documents which i testified to not only the attorney general, the district attorney, and to seven different congressional committees along with different law enforcement agencies, the goal was to appease donald. each and every year he wanted to be richer on the forms list. it is extremely important to him. so what he would do is say i am worth six billion, then within a second, in fact, i am worth seven and a half. you know what? i am actually even richer than that the more i think about it, i am worth ten! so figure out how to make the personal financial statement from the year before ten billion dollars. >> what do you think he is worth? >> one, two at best. >> one, two at best. do you have any information that could help the attorney general? >> i have given everything. i have given thousands of documents. >> you think that they used or your information? --
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>> absolutely. i gave them the personal financial statements of several years, i had explained to them -- you know, the problem with why trump gets away with what he does is because there is only a handful of people within the inner circle. everyone else is external. and what i did is i provided the road map. i provided the information that they needed to understand the trump organization so that they could hold him accountable. >> where do you see this going? >> i see real problems. i see indictments coming, and relatively soon. >> including the children? >> including the children. >> thank you. >> you are welcome, don. >> good to see you. president biden speaking to the world today addressing the un and vladimir putin. we are going to tell you what he said, after this.
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bottom of putin escalating russia's invasion of ukraine today, along with announcing a partial mobilization of 300,000 reservists, putin made clear -- he made clear references to his potential use of nuclear weapons. >> this is not a bluff. the citizens of russia can be sure that the territorial integrity of our homeland, our independence and freedom, will be insured. i emphasize this again with all the means at our disposal. and those who tried to blackmail us with nuclear weapons should know that the prevailing winds should turn in their direction. >> president biden condemning those comments hours later in his speech at the un general assembly. >> this war is about extinguishing ukraine's right to exist as a state, plain and
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simple. and ukraine's right to exist as a people. whoever you are, wherever you live, whatever you believe, that should not -- that should make your blood run cold. a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought. >> max boot is here, the -- lieutenant general mark hertling. -- putin once again raising the specter of nuclear weapons. it's never a good one when -- use of nuclear weapons is implied. but do you see just this has hollow rhetoric he's feeling here. or is this a real threat? >> there is a lot of people that are saying that, don. but you can't look at nuclear -- the potential use of nuclear weapons as a hollow threat, when the nation has those. you have to consider it a threat. and that is what putin is doing
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and he's done it repeatedly. so, as much as many people would like to say, oh, he hasn't used them so far, or he isn't going to use that, or -- a 1% chance that he might use, it you have to take those kind of threat seriously. and i think the president today at the un hit a couple of key points in his speech. one of them was certainly holding russia accountable and signaling them about the use of nuclear weapons and how it is unacceptable and how russia walked away from a nuclear nonproliferation talks earlier in the un debates. >> let's talk about this partial mobilization, general. you have a background on how russian soldiers are trained and you say that this mobilization is jaw-dropping. but not for the reason people might think it is jaw-dropping. explain. >> yeah. i think immediately the number
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of 300,000 mobilized comes to everyone's mind and it is shocking. but when you know the intricacies of taking reservists and taking them out of their civilian environment and suddenly turning them into soldiers very quickly, that is a very difficult thing to do, when you have that -- especially in the shape russia is in right now. the first thing to consider is, what do you process those individuals. how do you get them from their civilian lives into a soldier's life. how do you give them -- get them integrated into units? and the units that they are integrated into have been devastated on the battlefield. so, the morale is already low. so, you are affecting not only the military in a negative way, by trying to assert individuals who haven't trained or been part of a unit since the start of this war, but you are also talking about affecting the civilian society.
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and boy, aren't we seeing that tonight, with the amount of protests going on all over russia? and this is one thing that i don't think putin really considered, the blow back from the mothers and the citizens. and especially, from the young men that didn't want to go. >> yeah. i think you talked about that, early, on and as we were covering the war, you and other experts said that once you start affecting mothers and their kids don't come back, the tides may turn when it comes to public sentiment about what is happening in the war. what does it say about how effective russia's military will be if it is conscripting people and it's getting conscripts [interpreter] -- and those are the people who are protesting? >> don, i can only say that this will not contribute to success. so far, the russian military in the first three phases of this operation have been exceedingly unsuccessful because they have
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untrained soldiers, very poor leaders, very poor equipment and a dysfunctional supply as well as a horrible command and control architecture. so, you would now have an army on the battlefield that has been mauled over a period of over 210 days. morale is low and leadership is in the toilet and now you are going to say, hey, we are going to put new people into these units. but having been on the battlefield, units that are not in good shape and trying to introduce the role recruits, even though these individuals may have been in the russian military before -- they are going to be raw recruits if they eventually report to the front lines. they are not well accepted because they have now fought with the teams that are there. and morale of the teams that are there is already poor. so, it's just laying on another layer of disaster disastrous activity. and on, what i would say most
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people who don't understand the military think that these human beings are interchangeable -- the soldiers can just fall into line and suddenly contribute to the actions of the russian military. you can't. because of all the things i've stated. i am sorry for going on like this but it is just phenomenal that anyone in the russian government would think mobilizing 300,000 people in the midst of a war would help the situation. it just won't. >> you can go on, it's perfectly explained. thank, you general mark hertling. >> thank you, don. money now costs more money. >> -- i have been in years. stay with us. sions? it's going to take investing in some things you've heard of and some you'd never expect. it's going to take funding innovation in renewable energy, helping reduce carbon footprints, and big bets on environmentally conscious construction. citi has committed 1 trillion dollars in sustainable financing to help build a better future.
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change. >> when you are on death row, that is when the clock really starts ticking. -- he said, i'm going to do my best, and yes, he saved my life. i'm like, i'm not going to make it through this -- i can do 25 years in prison. >> the people that we have represented have been the most desperate, most despised, unfortunately. and the poorest and powerless people in the country. >> stephen bright is a lawyer. but for his clients he is their last hope. >> -- julia harlow. >> a meth of the day that i walked into his class at yale law school. thanks to them and thanks to their work, both in atlanta or here -- there is one less person facing execution in georgia today. >> listening to him talk is like listening to justice. >> if we don't do better, we are going to have to send -- blast equal justice of the law
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off the supreme court building. >> -- represent people facing the death penalty and represent people in prison and jails with regard to unconstitutional conditions and practices. >> i want to go where the problems are and where i could be helpful. >> he is argued for capital punishment cases before the supreme court, and he won them all. >> you often said that people are always much more than the worst thing that they have ever done. >> of course, tony is a perfect example. >> i get up in the morning, make me a cup of coffee. i think about my blessings, what brought me here. >> tony alma de served 38 years in prison for his involvement in two murders. >> i am responsible for their grief, my family's grief, i am deeply, deeply sorry. >> how close was toni to being put the debt? >> he came pretty close. we basically threw a hail mary pass by asking the supreme court to take the case. >> he won in an unanimous decision. >> the evidence discloses and
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on intentional program of reaching the jury by the prosecutors office. >> why do you represent people that you know have committed murder? >> everyone has to be representatives illegal system will work. if you talk about a champion for change, we are talking about somebody that makes an individual commitment for the betterment of other people. i'm getting emotional. >> i certainly would not have been the kind of lawyer i came without his motto. >> civil rights attorney brian stevenson started working with bright right out of law school. he would go on to found the equal justice initiative. >> in a lot of ways, it does become like ministry. i think you can't actually appreciate the burdens of the condemned, of the poor, of the marginalized, if you have not tried to carry some of those burdens. >> you have to let your heart be broken. >> yes, that is right. >> steve made it's safe to love
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the people you represent. >> someone like shauna -- shackleford. >> what happened in 2009? >> my house burned down. i ended up getting blamed. we lose everything, and up homeless, and i'm charged with first degree arson. they offered me 25 years at first. >> 25 years in prison? >> yes. >> for a fire that you did not set? >> right -- >> and then he wrote a letter to someone? >> i received a letter two weeks ago -- >> oh my gosh, i have not seen this letter in forever. i lost my job. i've lost my home. i've lost my dogs. i now sleep in my car. >> i am tired and i am beaten and i don't understand how to fight this. it has been days now since i have eaten. >> so, bright took on her case for free. >> what happened to the charges? >> they were dropped. >> dropped, because he has done a few weeks of investigation? >> and it was determined that it was an electrical fire.
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>> how long has it been since she last saw him? >> about a decade now. >> what would you say to him if you got to see? >> thank you for saving my life. >> we thought it would be nice if you could tell him yourself. >> because of his teaching and influence, he is doing more than most people to make sure that that legacy is carried on by a new generation of lawyers and advocates, but nothing's ever quite as good as the original. >> poppy harlow is here with me now. how are you not crying when that happened? we crying in that moment? >> i'm crying, can't you see my tears, the lemon? of course, i was crying. >> stephen bright works with the poorest of the poor. he doesn't want anything -- fame, money, nothing. what do you think one of its him and drives him? >> that is what is so amazing to me. and this is a man i said was my professor in law school last year. >> yeah. >> he changed my life for sure. he gave me a new lens to see
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the world, and he could be a rich fancy lawyer, right? he is not. he works with the poorest people that no one else will take on. he almost died in 2007. his heart stopped, so he says, poppy, i think i'm living on borrowed time, and i to do everything i can with it to make sure, you know the for words above the supreme court, equal justice in law. that may be true if you are the wealthiest. but often, if you are the poorest, you don't have a competent lawyer. if you don't have a competent lawyer, then you don't have a chance. that is what he is changing. >> if you have means. if you have means it works. >> that is right. >> i always ask people, what did you learn? you went to law school and you are calling me, like, have you lost -- mind? >> you know when i made that announcement that i would go to law school, don, you know who's the first person to call me? like you always are when big things happen? you. >> i remember you pass that on the -- overheated. >> i did. you told my husband when i am pregnant, your wife passed out,
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you are always there for me in these moments, and you are part of encouraging me to take this on. >> what did you learn from that, from this experience? obviously, you met him. >> what i learned from him and this whole law school experience is that we have the power and capacity to change lives, if we use our power in the right way for the people who don't have it. being a voice for the voiceless, that is who he is. that is what we have to do, as journalists. we have to stand, up we have to tell the stories, and he fights for them. can you believe he won all four cases before the supreme court, all four. listen, you have him -- no doubt he is a trail blazer. but you also had brian stevenson, and they worked together in tandem, amazing. >> i am so glad that you pointed that out. brian stephenson, the amazing civil rights attorney, founder of the equal justice initiative, author of just mercy, told me he would not be the lawyer he is today, you never have gotten into the work without stephen
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bright. stephen bright is the unsung hero behind what brian stevenson has built and done. so we wanted to show the world a little bit about him. >> an unsung hero -- poppy -- >> remember when it was lemon poppy? i think you sent me lemon poppy. >> lemon poppy -- >> i will see you in the morning. >> i know. have we lost our minds? >> maybe -- [laughs] >> i blame you. >> why? >> because, you know, you're a big reason why i want to be there, don lemon. >> poppy said, can i tell you them what he said? >> -- >> her husband said, the only reason i'm letting you do this is because of don. >> it's true. -- and get up at three in the morning. he said? for what. i said, for don. >> come here. >> i'm so excited that we'll have caitlin with us. we are going to have fun. >> i love you. >> do you. if you don't wake up, can i come knock on your apartment door? >> poppy kay, love you.
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>> love you. >> love you as well. we will continue to share these inspirational stories all week. be sure to tune in saturday at 8 pm eastern for champions for change, our one hour special. we've got a lot more ahead. new york's attorney general suing trump as an appeals court ruled against him, not a great night for the former president, but there is a lot to talk about. that is next.
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trump and three of his adult children are now facing a huge civil lawsuit from new york attorney general letitia james, packed with allegations of fraud, lies, and more than 200 false evaluations of trump's assets that reach back long before he became president, and in another legal blow, an appeals court ruling that the justice department can resume their criminal probe of classified documents found at mar-a-lago. joining me now to discuss, cnn 's senior legal analyst elie honig, also norm eisman, and cnn senior legal analyst and house judiciary special counsel and trump's first impeachment trial. that is a long title, norm. also, cnn presidential historian timothy. thank you all for joining us today. let me just ask you before you get to, you elie, norm, some of the day for us. just some of the day.
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>> donald trump's worst day ever. >> you think so? >> he got a body blow on the criminal side tonight with the 11th circuit allowing doj -- lifting this day doj can now proceed in using these classified documents, don, to investigate him, probably his most serious criminal exposure and even worse for donald trump, what does he care about above all? his name, his businesses, his family, his work, and this case, we talked about it last week, the corporate death penalty. this case is that -- new york attorney general letitia james is the equivalent -- >> all right, got, it you're getting ahead of all of this. here's my question,, elie doj is winning this appeal in the 11th circuit and the republicans have a strong interest, and i quote, here in ensuring that the storage of the classified records did not result in exceptionally grave


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