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hello, everyone. at this hour, survivors of hurricane ian is returning to their homes as president biden heads to florida to see the devastation firsthand. and the lead for a kidnapped family of four, and wild an overwhiling number of americans in this country is facing a mental crisis. this is that we're watching "at this hour." i'm erica hill, in days for kate at least 105 deaths have now been linked to the storm. search-and-rescue efforts continue today. more that 2,000 survivors have been rescued.
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residents of sanibel island today will be able to return to see what is left of their homes. residents have to access that barrier island now by boat. it remains cut off from the mainland. ian ripped apart a causeway. cnn's layla santiago just arrived a few moments ago and is able to file this report. >> reporter: this is west gulf drive, one of the main streets here on sanibel island. it's also a place where the residents tell me was the worst hit. this is now a street that's lined with debris. can you see straight into homes and see personal belongings everywhere. you also have part of a roof that is sitting on the side of the street. to make the point of exactly how powerful this storm was, residents tell me that this was actually across the street. now you can see straight in what was once a kitchen, a family room, no longer here. the equipment and refrigerator now partially on the the door.
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not much left to be salvaged. >> i believe we have leyla you want live. what more are you seeing. now that you've gotible to access the island. >> we got in, because the mayor announced they are giving passes to residents who want to come in and assess the damage for the first time. we got in with one of you have those boats. i noticed power lines down, almost taking over some of the main roads. in this neighborhood there is still standing water on one side, and then behind me, that is someone's roof, part of someone's roof. fences down, i saw some arts and crafts over there, some toys, but i've got to tell you about the people i've talked to.
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i talked to one couple, who almost as soon as i asked a simple question of how are you doing? they were almost in tears, tears because they were relieve to find it wasn't as bad in their home as they thought it was going to be. she talked about having a bit of survivor's get as a result and going to her neighbors to go help. i talked to another couple just down the street in another home with a very different story. they're actually wearing hardhats to get in, because they're not sure it's safe enough to go? she said i have a list, a list of things i'm going to try to find inside my home, in case their primary home, it's all they have. she also pointed out to me that she had a new shirt that she had purchased at the grocery store, and that's really all she had. so you get a sense of resilience.
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you get a sense -- i spoke to a gentleman named mike down the street. he had to be rescued by firefighters, because he didn't want to leave his home. he also got in on one of the first boats to get over here. he had some roof damage. when you talk to them, they're grateful. this has a way to put things into perspective. i know you've heard me say this before, everyone acknowledging this is not just days or weeks. everyone acknowledging this may never be the same. it's going to take a long time to rebuild and recover in sanibel island and other parts of florida. >> absolutely. you know, i'm interested, when you speak with the people that ear meeting there, you mentioned the woman with the list. the only thing she has to wear is the shirt she bought in the grocery store. this is their primary home. where are they going to stay? have they talked about where they're going to go for the next
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likely weeks? months? >> reporter: yeah, that's -- that's an excellent question, because the residents that are here now, erica, they have a pass to get in. that allows them to come in today. that means they have to go back out tomorrow. every single person here will also tell you they have been touch by how many people have reached out to say, are you okay? what do you need? how can i help you? they're really hoping that the government officials announced a few days ago they are working on some temporary fix to the causeway, because the bridge there is just completely collapsed. we showed you that yesterday. so they're really hoping that some sort of temporary fix will allow them to get in here to do more of the cleanup than just a day here at a time. many of these are planning to go back and forth as many days as they can. mike, the jae who had been to be rescued, that's hi plan. he said to me that he feels it's
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his response to do things -- protect his family and protect his home. he's going to come here as many times as he possibly can to start rebuilding. >> day one of the next phase. thank you. president biden and the first lady also making their way to hurricane-ravaged florida. they're going to tour that catastrophic damage. cnn's boris sanchez is live in fort myers beach with a preview of the president's visit. who will he be meeting with, boris? >> reporter: the president will get to see firsthand just how widespread the devastation here is in southwest florida. he's set to arrive roughly an hour and a half from now. the first thing he's going to do is take a helicopter tour of some of these decimated areas.
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the president soon after that will be briefed by local, state and federal leaders on a state of the recovery, flu florida's governor ron desantis, as you welcome know, has exchanged some political attacks with the president in the past. we're not anticipating any fireworks between those two today. both have exchanged messages, essentially saying it's a time to set politics aside, to unite, to heal the heartache here in southwest florida. after that, the president will hear from business owners and residents who will share how they've been impacted by hurricane ian. then the president is expected to deliver some remarks, reaffirming his commitment to help the people here before he departs for d.c. this evening. where we are, we've been coming to you live just outside this marina for the last five days. just this morning, the last few hours, we've seen more cleanup activity than we have since
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sunday. there's a half dozen, if not more, utilities trucks working on power poles. there are earth movers, cranes to get boats out of man defend groves, certainly an impressive feat being down in just the past few hours. >> always good to hear, boris, appreciate it. joining us is a council person that will greet the president. phyllis, good to see you this morning. -- i know it's my understanding as recently as yesterday there were still searches underway in the area for survivors. do you believe there are some residents there who may still need to be rescued? >> i leave that up to the experts. we're still in the search, rescue and recovery mode. there's been atvs going by up
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and down the beach. we're a densely populated island. there's a lot of nooks and crannies to look in. i notice they're actively looking, but i don't know what they expect to find. >> you'll be meeting with the president. what specifically do you think the president should see today and what is your message to him? >> well, i think -- the county is helping us and fema and the feds. the one daunting challenge we have is i heard estimates of 89% of the homes on the island are inhandleable. the amount of debris that has to be removed before you can start with any rebuilding, is -- i will -- >> i think we may have lost him there. he's one of the city council men. his home is one of the ones destroyed along with other folks on the council. he was talking specifically
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about addressing the president, it sounded like, the need for the debris removal. the other is, where does everybody live while they wait to rebuild? we'll continue to stay on that. for more information on how you can help victims, log on to cnn.com/impact. just ahead here, putin signs laws claiming to annex four regions of ukraine, despite the reality that in fact the russians are struggling to control the illegally annexed areas. the latest on the war r is next. i think i changed my mind about these glasses. yeah, it happens. that's why visionworks gives you 100 days to change your mind. it's simple. anything else i can hp you with? like what? visionworks. see the difference. we're carvana the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100 percent online
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claims are illegal under international law. it happens as russia continues to lose ground in ukraine. cnn's fred pleitgen is live in kyiv for us. >> reporter: the russians formally annexing those areas, and at the same time controlling less and less of the area they now claim is actually russian territory. what we've been seeing that's so remarkable is the face at which the ukrainians say they're making gains, not just in the east, but also in the south of the country as well. we see the map on the screen. look at the town of kherson, appeared that's what they want, and they want some of the defense lines there, literally
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collapsing as troops have managed to gain lots of little villages, but also pretty important towns as well now, it was quite interesting, because the kremlin earlier today said they could win back some areas, saying they are sticking by the annex aids, but certainly the ukrainians say they are going to keep pressing the offensives in the south and the east. they want to win back all the territory, including crimea. one of the things we have to mention is the russians are fighting back and shooting back. about 50 miles from where i was they had some kamikaze drones that did some pretty significant damage today. mike quigley is the cochair of the congressional ukraine
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caucus. what we're looking at what's happening on the ground there, despite the efforts, signing this into law, of course the majority of the law does not recognize this illegal annexation, but he says any attack on these areas will be considered an attack on russia. how do you expect putin to respond? >> well, i think you have to ask yourself what happened when there were attacks on crimea. there were a bit of hopes that obviously he thinking crimea is russian territory, when the ukrainians attacked that, that wasn't the tripwire. if you had told me during the first stage of the war that we would be here now, the ukrainian army would be advancing like this and the russians withdrawing, i would have been thrilled of the of. this was a war we were certain would last days, not weeks, but i am very concerned with the other issues at the same time. this isn't the end or the
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beginning of the end, but perhaps, as churchill would have said, the end of the beginning. >> how long do you expect it to last then? >> look, let's list the concerns of why this had last long. there are vast areas of land under russian occupation, ear though the retreating armies, they're still dangerous and plan to do damage to infrastructure. winter is coming, and that can slow progress, and allow russia to regroup. we have to maintain western to bepiles of weapons and continue to give them the weaponry. that won't be easy. at the same time, to the other part of your report, we're beginning to see the acts of a desperate putin who's far more concerned with his ultraright
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wing nationalist -- and that's why i think you see these acts you're seeing, the sham elections, nuclear threats, and the bunbungled mobilization. ukraine, as cnn has learned, is actually offering the u.s. oversight, essentially veto power in an effort to convince the biden administration it needs some long-range missile systems. do you think the u.s. should agree to that? do you have any concerns about it? >> um, i was with president zelenskyy about a month ago, with the defense ministry. you learn firsthand how the hymars were turning the course of this war. when we met with members of the rata, they told us it is humanitarian aid. the only way to keep their
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people from being killed, and the atrocity putin has committed through his army, i would give them what they need. this is far from over, unfortunately. i believe there will be a redoubled russian effort to takes these weapons back. >> you want to give them the weapons. i know you are also in favor of the fasttrack bid. speaker pelosi stopping short of that. she talked about support for security guarantee. stoltenberg also somewhat lukewarm on that accelerated bid. is this, in your view, coming down to article v. are there genuine concerns that this is maybe the end of the beginning, concerns about how long this could last, what it could mean in terms of direct involvement for nato countries on the ground? >> when i talked about the beginning, what i was referencing there is putin's
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attempt to restore the soviet union, which would have meant going after nato countries. i think the baltics, poland, moldova are all fair game. i think that's why they should care so much. i think ukraine has earned this. their role has widely formed nato in the first place, but it's part of at largest question -- what do we consider victory? it's clearly holding those account 5b89 for atrocities for this war in the first place, and making them secure. i would imagine the best-case scenario, they win this war and russia is forced off its land. then we make them part of nato, so that we know they're secure. that's the foothold russia wanted to go after the rest of nato. >> congressman quigley, thank you for joining us today. just ahead here,
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former president trump is now asking the supreme court to intervene in his legal battle with the justice department over records marked classified. these are records seized from his florida home. he's seek to go make sure more than 100 documents with those markings would not included in a special master's review. kaitlan, what could this potentially mean? >> this is about the 100 documents marked as classified taken out of mar-a-lago this summer among many, many boxes of what could be potential evidence in this criminal investigation that the department of justice is doing. in this situation, donald trump wants those 100 documents back under the purview of the special master, back under the control of judge eileen cannon, so they can review them and trump's team
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could get a look at them and try to make claims to keep them out of evidence in this case. those documents are at the heart of what the mishandling. we do expect the justice department to respond to this petition at the supreme court. we expect them to say, there's no way that donald trump could have an interested in these documents, and there really could be harm done to the united states government if the intelligence community and the justice department can't keep working on these. so we're just going to have to way and see what the response is. for now, nothing changes with the status quo. erica? >> so they continue doing what they're doing. we appreciate it. lawyers for the justice department releasing an audio reporting of an oath keepers meeting where members are heard planning to incite violence. the tape was played yesterday in
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the trial of five leaders of the far-right group. tell us more about what was on this tape, whitney. >> reporter: this was a two-hour meeting captured by an attendee from november of 2020. it's about 28 minutes captured in this call. it's mostly stewart rhodes directing members of the oath keepers about planning for violence, and you have to be careful about what you're going to do in the city, but what he did stress is he wanted oath keepers outside washington, and he wanted them to be armed. it's the crocks we learned about 103 people on this call, erica. here's what they would have heard. >> everything you say will be monitored, but now the phone calls being reported by the nsa and fbi, that everything you say can and will be used against you. don't make it easy for them to talk to you into a conspiracy
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charge and do what they did to the guys in michigan. they probably got them after a couple beers, talking smack, so be disciplined. >> reporter: the defense is trying to recast the words as proof they were trying to develop a plan, but that was within the confines of the law. they said that's not illegal, even though they acknowledged that the comments might be bombastic. the department of justice is presenting this evidence, because they think this shows planning of an ever increasingly desperate plot that culminated in january 6th's riot. joining me now is paul callen. let's talk about this. the defense is pushing back here saying, hey, this was recorded in november 2020. this was not about january 6th. as you had look at that, why do
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you think the prosecution would use that, knowing that would likely be the pushback? >> we have a six-week trial ahead of they have. they have a pile of evidence they have developed over the months, maybe even years, in putting this case together. obviously they thought this was an important piece of evidence. there are things in the tape that really stick out. rhodes is saying, for instance, if he had a lead pipe with an american flag, that would be a good kind of weapon to carry. i mean, that's a pretty clear indication of what was intended, weapons to hurt people wherever they were. but, on the other hand, the defense says, hey, this is well before january 6th. this is, in fact, before a couple of famous rallies that occurred in texas on 11/14. they're going to make an argument to the jury they're not proving anything about january 6th.
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prosecutors better have prosecution than this, or they're not going to win the case. >> the last charge of citizen conspiracy was dismissed by a judge. so in terms of that, they need more. what specifically do they need to prove related to that rare charge? >> it's a very difficult charge to prove. that's why you don't see it very, very often. you have to prove there was an intend to obstruct our overthrow the government through the use of violence. that's why we're hearing this about weapons that could be crowd for violence. prosecutors will say we're not offering that to prove this was what was actually there on january 6th. we're offering this to show that they have the capacity to obtain weapons, they used weapons in other situations, and it's not a stretch to think they would have used weapons on january 6th. they need a much more direct connection to january 6th to be
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able to prove intent in this case. >> taking a look at the latest filing from former president trump's legal team, asking for the supreme court to step in, what is your gut? how do you think this plays out? >> two interesting factors. one is that the circuit judge for the supreme court who monitoring emergency applications for the 11th district, which is florida, is clarence thomas. in a prior case where there was a motion by trump to try to block congressional access to these records, the only supreme court justice who ruled in favor of him was clarence thomas. so it wouldn't surprise me if clarence thomas maybe decides to recommend that the full court hear the case, but the other justices have to make a decision on that. i think they're going to reject it, because they can't -- there's no proof here that trump is going to suffer from irreparable harm if he doesn't get to look at these classified documents. >> given that everything is
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continuing right now, everything else -- the investigation is continuing, if there was a ruling in trump's favorite, by the time we got there, what would that change at this point? >> i don't think it changes anything. the only theory that i have is that trump feels that if the special master is allowed to look at the classified document, he'll share the information with trump's lawyers, and maybe give them a better indication as to what arguments that they can muster in the end when this case proceeds. maybe trump doesn't even know for sure what was in those boxes. remember, he was a sloppy record keeper, he may have just said throw that in the box you throw it in the box and he's not even 100% what was saved. he would like to know that before the case proceeds.
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developing right now, the biden administration criticizing opec's decision to cut oil production by 2 million barrels a day, this despite pressure from the u.s. to actually pump more. arlette saenz has more. this is what the white house did not want to see. >> and the white house is out there quickly criticizing, slamming this decision, calling it a short-sighted decision. i asked president biden about these anticipated cuts before he left for florida earlier today. he told me he was concerned and found them to be unnecessary, but jake sullivan and the director of the national commission council brian deese released a statement in which they say, quote, the president is disappointed by the short-sighted decision to cut production quotas, while they're
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dealing with the impact of the -- they say, at a time when maintaining a global supply of energy is of paramount importance, this decision will have the most negative impact that are already reeling from elevated energy prices. the biden administration really had launched a full-court press from officials to really try to dissuade middle eastern allies from making such a significant cut. their concerns going forward is what it could mean for gas prices around the world and here at home, especially as you have the midterm elections coming up. the president stated he has directed the secretary of center to look for options of possibly boosting domestic production of oil going forward, but this is something the white house is very critical of as opec makes its announcement today.
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arlette, we appreciate the reporting. iran now blaming the west for igniting the defiance in the streets. these protests having going on for weeks, following the death of a 22-year-old woman who was detained by the country's so-called morality police. jimana has more for us. >> no surprise there, hearing the supreme leader describing this as a foreign conspiracy. this is exactly the receipt riggs we've been hearing for nearly three weeks now, basically describing the protesters out in the streets in the thousands, as rioters, mercenaries with foreign agenda, and just dismissing all that's been going on in the country as a foreign plot to try to destabilize the islamic republic. there was a lot of speculation
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we hadn't heard from the supreme leader for the past couple weeks, some warning if there was disagreements on how to deal with these protests, but he came out, spoke and said this unrest, as he described it, was designed by the united states and israel to weaken iran. in a very disturbing line in his speech to the police cadets, he says some of the young people taking to the streets, they're influenced by programs they see on the internet and they, with the right punishment, they will realize they are wrong. a lot of concern that this mike an indication of a stronger, harsher crackdown coming, but i can tell you, that hasn't stopped with the protesters with some of the youngest, fearless school girls joining the protests against the regime, demanding regime change. >> chilling -- perhaps not surprising, but chilling to hear
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those words about the right punishment. thank you. a missile malfunctioned and crashed, a laurelling a -- alarming -- though casualing have been -- north korea fired a ballistic missile over japan on tuesday. in california, the disparate search for a missing family continues. police say a 48-year-old man is in custody, as a person of interest in their investigation into the possible kidnapping of this family of four, a kidnapping that may have happened at gunpoint. what are some of these newer developments we are learning? >> we just learned some of the disturbing details. i spoke with the public information officer of the me said county office, that told me
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video does exist of the kidnap happening on monday at a business in the merced area, happening on camera, apparently where, she says, the suspect can be seen actually with a gun and with restraints, putting them people in a truck, two by two, first the two men and then a woman and the 8-month-old baby. right now, we are also learning from the sheriff's office that the 48-year-old person in custody, they arrested that person because of help from that person's family. that family called law enforcement saying that he had admitted to somehow being involved with the kidnapping. prior to law enforcement involvement, he had tried to take his own life, so he had received medical treatment. as of last night, was in critical condition, but they did not have an update on his status this morning. on tuesday, investigators did see that an atm card belonging to one of the kidnapped victims, was used in atwater, california,
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about 15, 20 minutes away from merced. it's not clear at this time whether that person they have in custody is the person who used that card. it's also not yet confirmed, whether he is the same person seen in those surveillance images from monday. we are going to hear from the serve in a few hours at a press conference, where we're told they may release more images from that surveillance video from the business where the family first disappeared. we might even see images of the suspect truck, erica. >> it will be interesting to see those. natasha, we appreciate the new reporting. thank you. just ahead, one thing a vast majority of americans can agree on, this nation is face ago mental health crisis, but there are barriers to treatment. dr. gupta joins me next with the findings. in real time and that's... how you collecect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. lactaid is 100% real milk, just without the lactose.
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as the u.s. fwraples with economic uncertainty and the impacts of the pandemic, an overwhelming percentage of americans say they're experiencing a mental health crisis. those findings come from a new poll by cnn and the kaiser medical foundation. dr. sanjay gupta joining us now. i read through that this morning and the initial number was astounding and at the same time not at all surprising to me. >> 90%. in some ways you might think why not 100% considering all that we've been going through. when they did the survey, they asked people to rate the biggest things that were driving their mental health concerns, and your y'all there was a sampling of
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things that came out. one of the things that really was at the top of the list was the opioid epidemic, erica. we've seen the numbers on this. they've reached record levels in terms of drug overdose deaths in 2021. all these other issues, mental health issues in teens. mental illness in adults, loneliness, stress and anxiety from politics, again, none of this surprises anybody, but when you look at the polling, now that you identify this, what do you do about this? it's har for people to access care for lots of different reasons. in part because people can't get the time off of work to do it. it could be the cost. there's not the parity being on par, still stigma. all of those things we've been talking about for some time. but as you point out, erica, amplified over the last couple
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of years. >> and perhaps even more justification in many ways for alternate methods of getting the care. i also want to get -- before i let you go, we know there's been a lag in people getting their boosters, especially this most recent one, but there's some new analysis that shows just what a different those shots can make. can you walk through that? >> there's a significant lag as you point out. secondly, we're going into a cooler and dryer season and we know the virus will spread because we'll be more indoors. the virus likes that kind of weather. here's what we found by the commonwealth fund and yale university. 53% of the country is boosted. if nothing else happens, we could reach a peak of 90,000
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deaths. if we get to 52%, we could potentially save 75,000 lives by march. 80% boosted, 90 thousand by the end of march. i know for a lot of people, they've stopped thinking about covid, but those numbers are really important. they're not exact, but i think they do tell a very important story. >> yeah, absolutely, and one that's important to keep talking about, right, especially as we enter into flu season. you can even get both shots at once. that's what i did. dr. sanjay gupta, always good to see you. thank you. we're moments away from a spacex launch in florida. we have live coverage of this. we have pictures there from kennedy center. stay with us. cnn coverage will continue on "inside politics" after this quick break.
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she's the first cosmonaut as you point out to fly on an american flight for the first time in 20 years and the first to fly since the tensions with russia's invasion of ukraine. you have the commander of the flight, nicolem mann. she's the first female and the first native american woman and a colonel of the marine corps, test pilot, mechanical engineer, and she's a mother. so she has many, many attributes that make her the perfect commander for this particular mission. they get set for what will be a lift-off right about 40 seconds from now. the capsule which is the dragon capsule on top of the falcon 9 rocket system. we'll just listen in. >> a reminder as we listen in here, this is the use of nasa now with commercial space

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