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game one against astros in alcs tomorrow. nlcs gets started tonight. i'm not sure what's worse. starting the game at 9:30, 10:00, wee hours of the morning, or not having baseball and coming back today. both bad choices, i guess. >> both terrible. he said "it's garbage." wet garbage is what it is. wet garbage. >> not happy. >> wait to see what today holds. thanks, andy. ahead, joined by hall of famer grant hill as the nba season kicks off with a doubleheader. who he has this eyes on. and "new day" continues, right now. a bill debate night three weeks out from the midterms. i'm brianna keilar with john berman this morning. in ohio last night pretty bad blood between tim ryan and j.d. vance on the debate stage. the two senate candidates battling over the economy,
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inflation and racist rhetoric. >> yes, joe biden is our president. he was chosen in the only election that matters the election held by the electoral college. whether there were errors, whether some states might have conducted their elections better than others, there's always room for debate and questions about that. >> for you to talk about the importance of the electoral college i think is rich. you know exactly how important it is, and i think you knew how important it was when you sought to urge the white house that had lost an election to find fake electors to overturn will of the people. you were there to stand up for our constitution, but when the barbarians were at the gate, you were happy to let them in. >> the ohio senate race more competitive than expected in a state that donald trump carried twice. both men accused each be other of being a sss lickers and suck
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ups. and republican senate lee betraying america on and after january 6th, among other things. >> i think it is grounded in some of the most racial, divisive, racially divisive writings in the history of the world, and this is who he's running around with. talking about replacement theory. no big, grand conspiracy. this country has been enriched by immigrants. >> you are so desperate of political power you'll accuse me father of three biracial babies of racism? we are sick of it. >> and the utah debate there. mcmullin in utah confronted senator mike lee over text messages sent to mark meadows in the leadup to the attack on the capitol. lee denied any wrongdoing. in georgia, the big rematch for governor between stacey abrams and brian kemp.
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the candidates made their final pitch to voters last night with more on the line for the democratic challenger here. abrams is trailing in the most recent polls. last night she attacked kemp on several fronts. cnn national politics reporter is with us from atlanta. what's the reaction there to the acb abrams/kemp debate? >> reporter: most anticipated rematches in politics here in georgia. just 21 days before the midterm elections. in georgia, it's not only about the house and the senate. >> this is the general election debate on candidates for governor. >> reporter: face of off monday night. stacey abrams, and brian kemp, republican. each making the case for deserving their vote. >> the current failures we've
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seen in this state are not only damns, disqualifying and over the next few years we have an opportunity to change the trajectory of the state. >> my desire continue to help them fight through 40-year high inflation and high gas prices and other things that our georgia family, facing right knew quite honestly because of bad policies in washington, d.c. >> reporter: governor kemp campaigning for a second term and led polling in the race. for many georgians this election sree match of the 2018 contest between kemp and abrams. while a federal judge ruled last monthga's election law did not violate voters' constitutional rights. in response to a lawsuit brought by abrams founded group fight fair action started in 2018, the democratic candidate repeated some of these accusations to georgia voters. >> we need a governor to believes in access in the right to vote. >> reporter: governor kemp
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pushed back against abrams claims. >> for someone to say we have been suppressive in our state when we've seen turnout increase over the years including with minorities like african americans, latinos and other is simply not true. >> reporter: and facing off on business ownership and social equity. >> fighting for you when ms. abrams was not. it giving tax refunds, as it cuts, suspending the gas tax to help you deal with 40-year inflation when she was criticizing us. >> i point out mr. kemp dp not agree in contracts for black and brown businesses, we need to study it. i would say, cheat off my paper. i know the answer. >> reporter: the heated debated comes as erltarly voting begins georgia. the peach state, home toll another critical race and here the senate split 50/50 could be decided. incumbent democrat raphael
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warnock facing republican nominee herschel walker in a close race. casting his ballot monday, reverend warnock renewed attacks against walker. >> my opponent herschel walker is not ready. i pointed out the fact that he claimed to be in law enforcement, to be a police officer, and that he threatened a shoot-out with the police. and his response was to produce a fake badge? >> reporter: appearing on nbc's the td "today" show showed an honorary sheriff's badge he previously claimed was legitimate in a debate last week and denied allegations of do domestic violence by his son. >> i love my son christian, phi family and that's what i say to my son christian and i don't have any violence. >> reporter: another busy day in
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this battleground state. all of its candidates crisscrossing the campaign trail. stacey abrams kicks off her "let's get it done" bus tour this afternoon in atlanta. brianne in? >> eva, thank you for that report from atlanta. new developments in ukraine this morning. mayor of kharkiv says his city is under fire with a series of explosions reported. russian strikes targeting critical infrastructure in at least three ukrainian cities including the capital of kyiv triggering power and water out amps. shelling destroyed a two-story residential building in mykolaiv. a man's body pulled from rubble there. and the russian occupied zaporizhzhia power plant, two employees kidnapped. clarissa ward is live for us in kyiv this morning. clarissa, how severe is the damage in the capital city and how are residents holding up? >> reporter: well, john, basically kyiv's player is now asking people to try to conserve
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electricity and also water on the back of a number of attacks that took place earlier this morning. these were rocket attacks. we know according to the mayor at least two critical infrastructure facilities have been damaged, and it appears that one was particularly seriously damaged. it's being described as an energy supply facility, but from what we understand it's basically like an energy plant that creates power but also is an important factor in creating heat for people's homes which obviously is not a crucial thing at the moment, but certainly will be as the winter sets in and as the months get colder. we're hearing that two people were killed as a result of this morning's attacks. not using drones this morning as were used yesterday, but the overall focus for the russians seems to be very similar to what we have seen in the last week, and a day.
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the last eight days, really. which is a real laser focus on ukrainian civilian critical infrastructure. we marheard from the president volodymyr zelenskyy earlier today in a tweet saying more than 30% of ukrainian energy facilities or energy plants have been seriously damaged or destroyed even since october 10th. as a result of this new tactic. so this is a very serious challenge for ukraine's armed forces. it is one that they are doing their best to mitigate, but that is why you are seeing this kind of renewed call, as we heard from zelenskyy last night, for more sophisticated air defense systems to help ukraine try to stop all the -- they're already intercepting a lot of them, even if just a few guess through, john, you can see, it can create real problems here in the capital and across the country. >> yeah. talk more about that, clarissa.
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yesterday in your piece you showed something i hadn't seen before. shooting down of these iranian drones that russia is using. remarkable footage, but they can't get all of them. what does ukraine say it needs? >> reporter: ukraine says it needs a couple different things. first of all they want to see the international community put a lot of pressure on iran. they are demanding sanctioning against, sanctions against iran for supplying this weaponry to russia. because it's creating a host of different problems for them. it's bad for the psyche of the ukrainian people. sort of very distinctive worrying whining noise these drones make. nicknamed them mopeds here in ukraine. imagine the terrifying impact for folks on the ground to see kamikaze drones flying towards them and know it's almost impossible for air defense systems to spot them in the sky. you're talking about people on the ground using line of sight, using manpad if they have access to that or whatever kind of
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rifle they might have with them and trying to shoot them out of the sky. so that's one component. the other thing that the ukrainians are asking for again and again is more sophisticated air defense systems, and more of them. this is a vast country, john, and so it's one thing to get an air defense system in place that might protect effectively one city or one part of the country, but in order to set up a kind of wider spread infrastructure that would really afford ukrainians proper protection from this threat, it makes it very challenging for them, and the more they believe that they make these, you know, successful counteroffenses on the ground and take back territory from, that had been under control of russian forces the more they fear that russia is going to respond with these sort of blistering attacks on civilian targets, creating very many challenges for them in terms of the infrastructure and supplying people with what they need to survive, and also as i mentioned that effect on the sort of
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morale of the populace, john. >> clarissa ward, great to have you there. thank you as always, so much for your reporting. a top u.s. intelligence official says russia is running through its stock of precision weapons firing them at an unsustainable rate. meantime, the u.s. is trying to speed up delivery of air defense systems to ukraine following a wave of russian drone attacks. cnn's cnn's's report sir with us now. what does it mean for those on the ground getting hit? >> reporter: we heard from director of national intelligence yesterday echoed what we've heard from other u.s. officials. russia is chewing through munitions, united states believes is not able to sustain. russia has been leaning so heavily on these iranian-provided drones that they've used so effectively to strike ukraine energy infrastructure and terrorize
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ukrainian cities. russia is using these drones as kind of replacement for some of these precision-guided munitions, but western intelligence analyst put it to me yesterday. kind of a poor man's precision munition. the other thing he went on to say yesterday really interesting. saying the u.s. now believes that sanctions and export controls placed on russia by the west are contributing to russia's supply chain woes here. right? they believe at this point that not only is russia burning through its stocks itself, it is also having a hard time replenishing some of these weapons because it can't get the components. i wanted to share with you what he said to us specifically yesterday, that export controls have forced russia to rely on contraband chips where it can and frankly jury rig microelectronics and systems that are less capable. >> dipping into reserves.
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if russia dips into their reserves what does that do. >> reporter: yes. we do know from one source familiar with western intelligence that the west believes a the this point russia is close to dipping into its strategic reserves if it hasn't done so already. the same source emphasized russia still has plenty of older soer soviet-era, less precise weapons to use. ukraine remains incredibly vulnerable in particular from the iranian drones we know killed four in kyiv just yesterday. it's important we don't read too much into the remarks, don't interpret them as suggesting that russia's running out of bullets, so to speak, anytime soon, but they do indicate a pretty profound weakness in russia's war machine. >> even as they terrorize the civilian population big time. katie, thank you so much for that. appreciate it. prosecutors in the seditious conspiracy trial of leaders of the far right oath keepers group
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introduced evidence its founder stewart rhodes and other members spent tens of thousands of dollars ahead of the january 6th insurrection on an arsenal of weapons. prosecutors argue the firearms, bullets and other equipment were part of their preparation to try to stop the peaceful transfer of power. whip me now cnn anchor and senior national correspondent s. what's the latest? >> reporter: yeah good to see you. week three of the prosecutors' case. we saw monday members of oath keepers wheeling heavy boxes and big bags through a virginia hotel, and they showed this to the jury for the first time so they could see the video of just how heavy some of these boxes were. at one point one of the people coming into this hotel in virginia was having a hard time maneuvering it, because it was so heavy. this was the day before january 6th. and the attack on the capitol. you also see gun cases coming
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through this particular hotel. now, the hotel was a location, prosecutors say, for the oath keepers so-called quick reaction force, and fbi agents testified to the jury yesterday that it was supposed to help attempt and support keeping biden from taking office, and was meant to later on occupy d.c. jurors also saw oath keeper founder stewart rhodes receipts. as he made his way from texas with his attorney, kelly siral and drove to d.c. what you saw are receipts showing thousands and thousands of dollars spent on arms accessories, spent on things like scopes and sights and all different kinds of magazines as well as prosecutors argued a couple firearms. in total, more than 175,000
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dollars had been withdrawn or debited from two oath keeper accounts in just the month of january alone, and prosecutors are basically trying to prove, john, thatted oath keepers were building an arsenal in preparation to stop the peaceful transfer of power. however, there is always another side to this, of course. you have the defense saying, look. the oath keepers have long maintained that they never brought the guns into d.c. that they never used those weapons they had stashed in virginia. and then in every rally they have ever gone to always had a quick reaction force available to them to assist in what they called "peacekeeping activities." john? >> all right. sara sidner watching it closely. more developments every day. thank you. the trump organization accused of over charging secret service agents who stayed at their properties while the agents were protecting the former president and his family. and president biden expected to keep abortion rights front
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a new house oversight committee report accuses the trump organization of charging the secret service "exorbitant rates protecting the former president and his family." costs spent at trump-owned properties more than $1.4 million over the course of four years. according to the report the former president's company charged the secret service excessive nightly rates as high as $1,185 per room per night more than five times the government rate. listen to what eric trump claimed in 2019 about the government's expenses at trump properties. >> if my father travels they stay at our properties for free. it save as fortune. go to a hotel across the street charged $500 a night we charge, like, $50. >> joining us now, cnn political
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analyst and senior political correspondent at the "new york times," maggie haberman. also author of the new book "confidence man: the making of donald trump and the breaking of america." maggie what do you think about what this report found? obviously very much in contradiction of what eric trump promised? >> two things, brianna. one, absolutely not true they were charging $50 a night or charging something below the government rate. those rates are very, very high and those rates are so high they're only going to call attention to what trump was doing. trump, who looks to make a profit any way he can and always has probably could have made a profit without going so exorbitantly high, but doing that is just going to draw attention from people who engage in government oversight, something he was, you know, never considered himself subject to even when he was as a private businessman. i don't know what can be done about this now in hindsight, but i think it's something people need to bear in mind as donald trump looks to potentially become a candidate again.
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>> one correction. not just author of "confidence man" author of the number one best-selling "new york times" book "confidence man." make sure that's clear here. you note, maggie, that in trump world there's this sort of bizarre justification for this kind of charging. they think they have been bilked somehow having donald trump at president? >> donald trump would complain in his world, costs us business having them here, or the rooms get damaged in some way. who knows if that's even true. something that people heard him saying. as you say, it's always the sort of rationalizations he makes. there's no justification for charging that high a rate if the report is correct. >> it's just not true what eric was saying. flat out false what eric trump was saying if this report is right. >> a lot of buzz today, maggie, an kanye west and his plans to buy, to acquire a parlor, the
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social outlet, and he says he wants trump to join it. of course, trump has truth social. i wonder what this means for trump what you think this means for truth social? >> i don't know how much it means for either one of them. especially because i'm not sure how this deal ends up going through with kanye west. we have to see and a lot in the details and financing. look, clearly they have a mutually beneficial relationship. they have also both been musial wale mutually anti-semitic statements over the past days and for trump, facebook looking at whether trump would get let back on their platform or elon musk goes ahead with buying twitter does he let trump back on his platform? the kinds of speech that could be tolerated, maybe not, certainly tolerated on truth social. some or parlor. see what meaners for differ platforms. >> you hit on something
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important. trump is in conversations paling around with someone daily saying clearly anti-semitic stuff. >> i don't know if i consider it that different from what donald trump himself said on truth social condemning u.s. jews for not supporting him enough and raising a duel lloydy trove about jews. kanye west more frequently and more pointed ways. amazing how mainstream this has become. >> both of you know one of the biggest problems, right, with new york city is the trash. well, okay. jinx. okay. no. so as you would say, so, no. the trash piles up. it attracts rats, and now you have the mayor, eric adams, on a crusade against them, and i just want to play something that he said about this. >> everyone that knows me they know one thing. i hate rats. many rivers in the sea of
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rodents in the city and today we're damning one of them. >> the rats are absolutely going to hate this announcement. but the rats don't run this city. we do. >> this is not ratatouille. rats are not our friends. >> we need some of that in d.c. i'll tell you. what do you think about this? i mean, this is really -- what it comes down to. what people want to see in governance. the right? >> it is. obviously a hokeyness how the press conference as executed but it's true the rat problem in new york city has gotten worse, got worts during the pandemic, as garbage wasn't being picked up. leaders dealing with basic issues people care about day-to-day is incredibly important and something eric adams is trying to focus on. >> back to donald trump one second. an interesting thing happened in these general election races with some republican candidates. lee zeldin, republican for new
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york. governor endorsed him. seemed to be downplaying this endorsement some. in colorado, i'm campaigning against donald trump if he runs for president. what do you see going on here? >> candidates underperforming trump voters, j.d. vance, now moved forward, really needed donald trump. candidates like in colorado, a purple state. having distance from trump is helpful. attacking him is not the best thing in colorado. and different with lee zeldin. closing polls. a big long shot because of democratic-leaning new york is and zeldin is so tied to trump but i think that zeldin is trying to get distance and trying to close the gap. feels a little late, but we'll see. >> all right. maggie, thank you so much for being with us. we really appreciate seeing you. ahead, the message that president biden hopes to drive home when he speaks to the dnc
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abortion taking center stage at last night's debate and that could be good news for democrats who see it as a singlegalvanizi issue for voters. abortion rights stop of mind speaking today for president biden. what do we expect to hear from the president? >> reporter: i can tell you speaking with the president's advisers see this abortion issue as a winner. they believe public is on their side and gal vanvanizing and deciding the midterm elections. three weeks to go, president biden is doing everything to keep the issue front an center. dnc president telling us the president in remarks at a dnc event in washington, d.c. tonight will draw that contrast between republican extreme
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policies on, as relates to criminal penalties for doctors, for example, in banning abortion practices, and also talking about what democrats want to do, which is to codify roe v. wade if they get majorities in congress. of course, this also plays into the president's broader argument he believes republican candidates up for election this year are extreme and so you'll see that playing out as well. >> can be really ignore the economy here, though? recent polling shows that it and not abortion is the most important issue to voters. so how can biden drive home the abortion issues with that top of mind with voters? >> reporter: the struggle the white house is facing now. look at this poll from the "new york times," out yesterday, it shows the economy and inflation, put those two issues together. 44% of voters believes that is the most important problem facing the country today . you say abortion with
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immigration, 5% singling that out as single most important issue. all of this is the change seen over the last couple months. over the summer democrats following that decision to strike down roe v. wade, gas prices starting to come down, but now gas prices are starting to come back up. inflation remained stubbornly high. you see some of that momentum democrats were seeing over the summer begin to wane. again, why the president today once again trying, trying to do what he can to bring the focus back to those issues where democrats believe they have a home plate advantage. brianna? >> we'll be waging. jeremy, thank you so much. john. bring in democratic senator mark warner of virginia leading the senate house committee. look at this "new york times" sienna poll combine inflation, and abortion, 44% saying number one problem and abortion down at 5%. why that vast distinction and
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are democrats focusing on right thing, then? >> well, i think there was huge shock across the country when the supreme court overturned roe. has some of that energy dissipated? i'm not sure. i believe there's still a lot of young voters who can't believe they're going to now live in a america, i think about my three daughters, late 20s, early 30s, linking in a america with less rights than what my wife and i had when we were their same age. so i think this is still an issue that will particularly move young voters, but the economy and inflation, it's real. we've seen gas prices go back up. we've seen supply chain issues, and a lot of the things that we have passed, almost historic way, negotiating drug prices. ability to bring clean energy to the table. the whole infrastructure bill. the ability to kind of return the semiconductor jobs to this country. they're all great policy, but they are taking a while to roll in where people actually feel it.
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i do think it's important the president, as reported today, the without reporting releasing potential additional oil from the national stockpile. that might give some short-term response. clearly, saudi arabia, i think, kind of stuck it to america with their recent announcement with russia, but i'm not going to underestimate the pain people are feeling from inflation, the pain people feel from inflation. what headwinds are democrats facing runs into these 34rmidte. >> a pushback. agree the fed waited too long. interesting when the fed takes action, trying to land this plane in a way that's pretty darn choppy, bringing up inflation. bringing up interest rates. it translates into lower stock prices and people also feel less secure at home. a delicate balance. we spent a lot of years with record-low interest rates. navigating this over the next couple months a challenge. >> put your senate intelligence chair hat on now. seeing strikes from russia with
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iranian drones in cities across russia. seeing targeting of energy infrastructure. how long do you think russia can do this? what's their long-term capability, and the flip side of that, what are you hearing or how do you feel ukrainians will withstand this heading into the cold winter? >> i think the drone attacks, if anything, they actually further unify the ukrainian people and shouldn't be surpriseds. authoritarian regime from putin. iranians literally killing young women in their country in the uprising, and when russia has to buy military equipment from north korea and iran, that's telling in itself, and what you've seen coming out of russia. while putin called up 300,000 conscripts, that same announcement driven about
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250,000 military-age males to leave the country. i don't know how long putin can maintain this focus. >> what's your biggest concern for ukraine? >> the challenges, will the europeans stay strong with a cold winter, and one of the reasons why i think the biden administration got a lot of critiques on certain things but their ability to keep europe unified with us and getting aid to the ukrainians. can lead to every ukraine success and i hope they say ke kherson before the winter sets in. we're playing this out as is goes along. how to make sure putin cannoting success. because that would have huge ram f
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ramifications beyond ukraine. and happening with xi jinping, looks like another unprecedented term. and secretary of state says he thinks china accelerated its planning to try to take back taiwan. what does he see? what do you think is happening there? >> well, we've got these two authoritarian leaders. putin, made it his life goal to kind of rebuild the old soviet empire, taking on ukraine. xi clearly in the last stage of his career wants to reunify taiwan. i think a lot of leaders in the chinese economy on the economic side probably are not william xi is. the competition, stepped up on semiconductors recently. stepped up on 5g and wireless. my committee is looking as advanced energy, synthetic biology. never faced and economic
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competitor like china that's really trying to dominate certain technology. with in this country and friends around the world need to step up and meet that. >> thanks for joining us, mark warner. come see us against. >> thanks. a new study this morning finds a link between chemical hair straightens and outerine cancer. and where did this come from in an elementary school? >> we should think about fund-raisers and bake sales. instead worrying about bombs. my most important kitchen tool? my brarain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain healt neuriva: think bigger.
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there's new recertainly suggesting that certain hair strightening products like chemical relaxers could be connected to increased risk of uterine cancer. the study finds black women may be more affected here.
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cnn let reporter jacqueline howard joins us now on this. tell us about this. so many people will be listening. >> absolutely, brianna. as a black woman it hits close to home for me. look at the study's known for some time, researchers have known, there a connection between hair straightening chemicals and certain hormone sensitive cancers like breast cancer and ovarian cancer and the new study adds eucerin caka eucerin-of-utd rinne cancer to t the -- uterine cancer to the risk. look at data here. researchers found than the estimated risk for women who never reported using straighteners in the past 12 months was 1.6%. but that percentage rose to an estimated risk of 4% among women who did report frequent use. frequent use is defined as using hair straightening chemical products more than four times in the prior year.
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so that's where that concern is. of course, brianna, these numbers are small. overall risk, 1% compared to 4% is small, but that difference is what's concerning. brianna? >> of course, explain why the effects may be greater for black women? >> the answer to that comes down to frequent use. again, turns out these products do tend to be used more by black women, and there's also another question here. i mentioned earlier how this hits close to home, and growing up many teenage girls including myself used some of these hair-straightening chemical products on their hair frequently and asked a study author, can previous use in adolescence or childhood have long-term implications, even if you discontinue use later on in life like many women have, like myself has. the answer, still need more data. products frequently used by black women, marketed towards black women, yet we still have
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many questions left to answer. >> what about hair dye, bleach, you know, personals to add curl to hair? are those different? >> reporter: they are. really interesting. in this study, the researchers wrote that they did not find an association with body waves, perms, dyes. use of other hair products were not associated with incident uterine cancer risk. so really comes down to these, again, hair-straightening chemicals and what association there is with those particular products. >> yeah. look, this is so important. so much more research needs to be done here. jacqueline, thank you for this report. actor kevin spacey taking a stand in the sexual misconduct trial against him. why he told the court his father was a neo-nazi. a missing person's case taking a deadly turn. details surrounding the disappearance and murders of
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this morning, what began as a missing persons case is now a murder investigation in oklahoma. police are investigating the deaths of four men whose dismembered bodies were pulled from a river. they were reported missing last week after leaving for a bike ride. each of them suffered gunshot wounds. it is unclear what led to their deaths, but police say they believe the men were planning to commit a crime. >> that belief is based on information supplied by a witness who reports they were invited to go with the men to, quote, unquote, hit a lick big enough for all of them. we do not know what they planned, or where they planned to do it. >> police say they do have a person of interest in the case, but no charges have been filed. however, they say that person is
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now missing and could be suicidal. former house of cards star kevin spacey testified in his own defense in a new york courtroom. the actor denied sexual misconduct allegations made against him. spacey also told the court his father was a white supremacist and neo-nazi, which spacey says is why he did not come out as gay sooner. with me now, cnn correspondent jean casarez. so, what's the context here? what was spacey doing with that? >> it is very interesting. it just popped out. it just came out during the testimony. but kevin spacey was testifying that he actually read the allegations against him in the article in 2017 on the day it came out, he was horrified, he was shocked, he was confused, his pr people said we got to do something. you got to do something fast. the metoo movement is out there, weinstein is out there with all the allegations, other women, people are coming out, and they said but you got to be gentle because this is an alleged victim right here, and so they crafted something for him to say
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that i don't remember this, but if it happened, i sincerely apologize. and i am gay. i have not come out, but i want to come out now. i'm gay. and there was absolute backlash for putting those together. he testified yesterday, he said, quote, i was accused of trying to change the subject or trying to deflect or that i was conflating an allegation with being gay, which was never my intention and i would have never done anything to hurt the gay community and i was so upset that was what happened. i understood it in retrospect. he had to explain why he came out and waited all these years. he said his father was a white supremist, he was a neo-nazi, his father used to make fun of him as a child, continually, that he was gay, it made him very, very closed off and he didn't want to talk about t but he felt that was the moment and wanted to do it anyway. >> that's about him. not so much about the
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allegations specifically made against him. what did he say about that? >> it is interesting. this is the headline now, right? this is what everybody is talking about. and anthony rap is the accuser here and the testimony was in 1986 when he was 14, he and kevin spacey were both appearing in different broadway plays, he had met him, he went to kevin spacey's apartment, kevin spacey picked him up, groped him on his buttocks, put him on the bed and laid on top of him. well, kevin spacey said in his testimony that he remembered meeting him, but that nothing happened like that. listen to what he said. he said, quote, it didn't make a big impression. he was a kid who was in a play, and that's what i remember. i knew what wasn't true was that i would have had any sexual interest in anthony rap or any child that i knew. and so he diffused it almost immediately from the beginning. >> all right, jean, i know
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you're watching this closely. thank you very much. selma blair will no longer compete on this season of "dancing with the stars" because of health concerns. the actress made the announcement last night. in 2018 she went public with a diagnosis of multiple sclerosis. blair has been competitive on the series over the past five weeks, but she says her body has taken a hit. >> this competition showed me how much i love to be with people that are trying their hardest. how much i love to be around music and though i don't have musicality. how much i love to want to do something again. >> even funny in this moment here, blair completing a final waltz dance to the song "what the world needs now is love". >> it was courageous she did it at all. selma blair has been very public about what she's been going through over the years. and to do this and put herself out there in front of, you know,
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the american people, to try to do something so physically challenging when just the day to day physical is so challenging for her, and she's a wonderful dancer. look at this. >> she's beautiful, this waltz. but, yes, this is not for the feint of heart, this competition. you know, i think we see what people go through to be able to do this on any given night where they're performing. and it's just too much. it's too much as we heard from her. but she did leave us with some beautiful performances. and "new day" continues right now. ass kissers, suckups and bears, oh my. i'm john berman with brianna keilar. some contentious and sometimes personal rhetoric, minus the bears, going on back and forth at the ohio senate debate between tim ryan and jd vance. the two men sparring over the economy and inflation, clashing over racist rhetoric and
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abortion. this is a state that donald trump carried twice. and utah independent evan mcmullen attacking mike lee accusing him of betraying america on january 6th. the debate was also a chance for mcmullen to confront lee over text messages he sent to mark meadows in the leadup to the attack on the capitol. lee denied any wrongdoing. >> no bears in georgia. in a rematch of a fiery debate for the same job in 2018, republican governor brian kemp and democratic challenger stacey abrams made their final appeals to voters last night. the stakes were arguably higher for abrams who has trailed in the most recent polls. with us now to discuss, cnn political director david chalian. david, it is so great to talk to you, because there has been just a bounty of debates to watch and moments to see and perhaps the testiest of all of them was this ohio debate, that we watched between jd vance and tim ryan. i want to play a moment from this, this has to do with replacement theory, race obviously in this debate.
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>> this great replacement theory was the motivator for the shooting in buffalo, where that shooter had all these great replacement theory writings that jd vance agrees with, some sicko got this information that he's pedaling with those extremists that he runs around with, marjorie taylor greene, ted cruz, all these guys they just want to stoke this racial violence. we're tired of it, jd. >> here's exactly what happens when the media and people like tim ryan accuse me of engaging the great replacement theory. >> you're pedaling it. >> i'll tell you exactly what happens, tim. what happens is my own children, my biracial children get attacked by scumbags online and in person because you are so desperate for political power that you'll accuse me of, the father of three beautiful biracial babies, of engaging in racism. >> what did you think of that moment? >> sounds like two guys from

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