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in a moment we'll be joined by senator bernie sanders to discuss democrats'chances in the upcoming midterm elections, less than three weeks away. big developments in two separate investigations involving the former president. one involves potential criminal liability for his conduct spreading election lies about the 2020 vote. we'll get to that in a moment. we'll start, though, with breaking news, sources telling cnn the former president's legal team is considering whether to allow federal agents to conduct a new search of mar-a-lago. cnn's sara murray joins us now with that story. what have we learned about this? >> sources have told us that there is a consideration on the table to allow federal investigators to return for some kind of supervised search. you can imagine trump's lawyers would also be present for something like that. the justice department has insisted in private discussion as well as publicly in court filings that they believe that the former president still has government documents, even after the subpoena he was given, even after the august search of mar-a-lago. this would be a potential way to satisfy the government's demands. there are people around former president trump who don't
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believe he has any additional documents, but the justice department has been very insistent that they believe there are still documents out there and that potentially trump and his team could have run afoul of this may's subpoena, which could potentially put him in legal jeopardy. i want to stress this is an option on the table, but it hasn't been decided yet. >> is there any indication that the former president might be changing his tune, if that is, in fact, what is happening? >> in some ways it is surprising because we have seen him be so adversarial towards tha justice department. we have seen him on social media railing against the original search at mar-a-lago. but what sources are telling me and my colleagues is that all of these legal woes have really been weighing on the president and that he is considering a more accommodating approach, in part because they are hoping if they take the steps they might be able to more swiftly resolve this document dispute they are still embroiled in. >> the former president has had some difficult problems with
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some of his lawyers. you have been reporting on how this particular legal team could potentially impact in this case. >> the risk of not trying to find a swift resolution to this as it drags on and you could expose more of your legal team to legal troubles, and frankly we have seen that already with lawyers around donald trump. christina bobb, the woman who signed on the line to say, we returned all the materials marked classified in response to your subpoena. we now know that that wasn't true. she has hired a lawyer and spoken to federal investigators. evan corcoran, he could have some legal exposure. according to sources he does not believe that's the case. he believes he's going to be fine. but boris epshteyn, another lawyer for the former president also had his phones seized by the fbi. there is a sense that the longer this goes on the worse it could get. >> sarah murray, appreciated. more on that story coming up. now to the other big story we mentioned and all the potential
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liability for the president. a federal judge in california today ordered emails turned over to the january six committee saying they indicate the former president knew his voter fraud claims regarding the 2020 election were, quote, wrong, but pushed them anyway. our justice correspondent jessica schneider joins us with that. so what is this federal judge saying, exactly? >> notably, this is the second time in the last seven months for this federal judge out of california, david carter, is saying that former president trump likely committed crimes in those efforts to overturn the 2020 election. and this is all coming out now because judge carter is now ordering john eastman, he is the attorney who orchestrated these efforts to block the certification, to even turn over more documents to the january 6th committee. he has been ordered to turn over eight more documents, and at least part of these documents, one email in particular, it shows how president trump was made aware that voter fraud numbers he submitted and state and federal court were false. but
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even after he was made aware he submitted those fake numbers to the court anyways. so the judge wrote as part of this 18-page opinion, he said the emails show that president trump knew that these specific numbers of voter fraud were wrong, but continued to tout those numbers both in court and to the public. the court finds that these emails are sufficiently related to, and in furtherance of a conspiracy to defraud the united states. so that is the first crime judge carter said it was likely committed here, anderson. the second was felony obstruction. the judge said the former president was filing all of these lawsuits contesting the election, not to get legit legal relief, but instead with a specific purpose to disrupt the election process, and impede the certification of joe biden as president. so the judge here is allowing even more evidence of this alleged criminal activity to be handed over to the january 6th committee, and now the question is anderson, will prosecutors get this evidence as well? >> what implications could this have for the ongoing criminal -- up the former president? >> we know the probe in the da
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in georgia, this really unveils even more evidence for prosecutors, particularly at the justice department who have been probing over all of these efforts to overturn the 2020 election on multiple fronts, but the real question now is, will prosecutors, will the attorney general, merrick garland, ultimately think it is enough to charge the former president or any of his allies with obstruction or conspiracy to defraud? interestingly, it is not just these emails are being handed over, in the order today some of the documents that are also being given to the january 6th committee eight involve eastman's pitch to former vice president mike pence to block the certification of the vote which of course, pence ultimately refused to do. so there is a lot here for doj, for prosecutors and georgia to sift through if they do get their hands on it off for the committee does to see if they should press charges here.
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>> but jessica, why wouldn't they get their hands on it? doesn't the committee share -- there was an issue early on about sharing information, but the committee could just give it to the department of justice, couldn't they? >> absolutely. they very well might do that. but there has been that sticking point to how much evidence the committee has actually been handing over to prosecutors both at the doj and elsewhere. you would assume that they would hand over these emails as well, and these documentation's from eastman but we will see if it actually happens. >> jessica, i appreciate it. commentator alyssa griffin who served as director for strategic communications, and conservative lawyer george conway at the washington post. george, when a federal judge uses the phrase conspiracy to defraud the united states in relation to the former president, what does it signal about potential legal exposure? >> it signals and confirmed something that we already knew, that this judge already believes that trump has extensive potential legal exposure under the two statues that he cites. in section 371, and -- so, the story really isn't about the federal liability here. because compared to what the january 6th committee has come up with, this is just tiny compared to the mountain of evidence that we have seen at the january 6th
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hearings. what this is a smoking gun in georgia. because if you look at what the judge describes here on these emails, they file a lawsuit, a state court lawsuit in early december, december 4th, making various allegations about that people voting, about felons voting, about and registered voters loading, and by the end of december, they are aware that these allegations are false. that is the email that the judge quotes here. one of the emails where eastman says the president has since been made aware that some of the allegations have been an accurate. and then they go and they actually, the lawyers go and they have him file a federal lawsuit where trump certifies, under oath, verifies under oath, that these allegations were in fact true! that is perjury, and that is certainly evidence of federal crimes. but, remember, when eastman makes this statement it is december 31st. what happens three days later, two days later? he makes trump make the call to raffensperger. he makes
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that famous recorded call, infamous recorded call when he is asking raffensperger, demanding raffensperger, threatening raffensperger if he doesn't, to find exactly 11,780 votes won more than he needs. this is a smoking gun for the prosecutor in georgia. and the georgia investigation is very advanced. this is going to be a very important document and the charges that i am sure she is going to bring. >> alyssa, i remember you saying that you have been hearing from folks that the georgia case is something that they are concerned about.
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>> something i consistently hear from republicans who are still, you know, loosely aligned with trump world is that what they are most afraid of is the investigation. that could be for any number of reasons, but this is another factor that comes out that is related, and it shows that this is a president who we know lied with impunity for the entirety of his time in office. frankly, most of his career. but the situation where you cannot lie with impunity, you cannot lie on a court filing and misrepresent facts. it just confirms what many of us know, which is that there is this desperate period in the final days ahead of the transfer of power, ahead of the election called for joe biden where it was really some of these advisers around the president and former president himself throwing things against a wall to see what would stick. >> you said to the january 6th committee, something along the lines of the former president then say, i can't believe i am losing. >> just days after the race was called for president biden i walked into his dining room off of the oval office to check in
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on the former president. joe biden was on tv and he said, can you believe i lost to this guy? the fact is, most people around trump including trump himself knew he lost. but he wanted to desperately cling to power in any way he could. i would agree with george, i think this is the closest thing to a smoking gun of just deliberate wrongdoing and misleading. the one thing i thought was interesting though, to jessica's point, i worked with the january 6th committee, the work they are doing is important. but this needs to go to the department of justice. that is where you are going to get accountability. they do not have power to indict him, that needs to go to the department of justice. >> george, you see this playing out in georgia and what the timeline there is like. >> i think the georgia investigation based upon the witnesses they have called seems to be fairly well advanced. i would think that they would want to bring charges by the end of the year, because it has been going on for quite some time, and i think that she has held back, frankly, because of the elections. you do not want to be accused of affecting the elections. so i think that the sense that people are getting inside that investigation is moving much more quickly than the federal investigation. and this is just a devastating
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piece of evidence here. >> we have obviously seen the former president willing to take things all the way to the supreme court. are his legal options dwindling down somewhat? >> it would seem so. even the separate reporting, now he wants to open up mar-a-lago to further investigations and looking for more documents. it kind of wreaks of desperation. i think that he is in a place where he feels cornered, and various different investigations, even today he was sitting down for responding to allegations related to sexual assault allegations from over a decade ago. this man is cornered at every turn, and he is not surrounded by wise legal counsel. so i think you are going to see further acts of desperation from him. >> george, do you see legal avenues that he could use to
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try to delay or block eastman from turning over the emails? >> no, not the emails. these emails are going to go to the january 6th committee, and the january 6th committee has been working with the justice department on with the georgia prosecutors. this is coming in, it is going to be used against him, and it is a devastating, as i said, a devastating piece of evidence. and i agree with alyssa, he is a desperate man, and he is getting more and more desperate. i think that we are going to see that over the coming months. and i think that it is going to force his hand into, he will run for president in effect for protection against these legal proceedings, but there are going to be too many of them. and i think that we are going to see, i think he might get the nomination anyway, but i think we are going to see the meltdown to end all meltdowns of a public figure. >> alyssa, george, thank you so much, i appreciate. it just ahead, we will have more on the breaking news, the former presidents legal team possibly being open to a new supervised search of mar-a-lago, we will talk to our new legal team about what it may mean for the future of the investigation of missing classified documents.
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>> at the start of the broadcast, cnn reported that the former presidents legal team was with discussing whether to allow a new supervised search by federal agents of his mar-a-lago residents. it would be an intentional shift from the more adversarial approach towards investigation. we want to check in with our legal panel, carrie cordero who served as attorney general for national security along with cnn john dean, white house counsel under president nixon. they join us now. carrie, first of all, how is it possible that there would be anybody who still has documents at mar-a-lago to search for, that i find hard to understand. but why do you think the justice department would be interested in such an offer?
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>> yeah. i think that is a good question, anderson. i find this report a little bit puzzling, because if i think about the trajectory of an investigation, a subpoena is relatively early in the investigation, and then the search warrant that they executed which was based on probable cause is much further down in the investigation, and the surge of course, once the judge grants the warrant and executed that certain august, it should have been exhaustive. and it wasn't anything that we would consider supervised by the individual that these searches being conducted against, and so they would have
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gone through whatever physical spaces were authorized by the court in that warrant to conduct a pretty exhaustive search. i really do have a big question, why the justice department would even be interested in this offer, for them to come back on a voluntary basis under, quote unquote, supervision by trump lawyers when they really should have found everything that they we're looking for in the august search. >> john, does it make sense to you? >> it does not totally makes sense. but even more confusing is why trump would want to concede and say you can go to mar-a-lago under my supervision. i would think that the justic e department has seen,
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there is so much time that has passed that whatever was there, or whatever basis specht is missing could have been moved to one of the other venues. he has got a place in new york city, a place in bedminster, i think that they would insist on searching everything to make sure that once and for all, that they have it, or that he has swirled it away where they can't get to it. and if they find it, if they have evidence of that, they will get it not from a physical search but from other sources. >> yeah, carry with their have been anything since the fbi search in august that would have prevented the former president or his employees from moving any additional documents anywhere else? >> well, to the extent that the fbi has been conducting an investigation, and we do not know as the public what types of sources they might have, or whether they would have been informed by individuals corroborating in the investigation whether he had moved things. so what we do know is that it does look like there is an obstruction investigation that is being conducted, and presumably they have sources of information, and they have methods of gathering information that we would think clue them in if something drastic like that was happening. i mean, the former president really has harmed himself in terms of his legal culpability over the course of this investigation by not cooperating up until this point. by dragging it out, and
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obstructing until the point that the justice department felt compelled, and had to go get the search warrant in august. so, it is a little late in the process for the trump team to be thinking about, or thinking the justice department would be open to this type of accommodation. >> john, do you expect the justice department has looked into whether documents were taken to any other trump raw parties, would not be part of their investigation, and would the -- would we know about that if there had been any kind of search warrants executed on different par properties? i assume we would have heard of it, or it would have leaked out. >> if you search warrant have been issued, and they had done a search, we would probably know about it. it would be pretty hard to do that in both of those venues without somebody getting wind of the fbi arriving to undertake a search. you know, i think they may well have, based on the earlier affidavit that is blocked, and they wanted to protect witnesses, they may have witnesses that can inform them that maybe is why they have suspicions that they are
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missing documents. i don't think trump is inclined to play nice, and i don't think that you can trust him playing nice. i think that he would only do that if it was up to his benefit. if anything, we know six years of watching them, and looking back over his business career, he cannot be trusted. so it is going to be to his advantage whatever he does. >> carrie, if you are the former president and you are facing multiple criminal investigations, state and federal, which are you most worried about? >> well, i, you know, i am a national security lawyer so i tend to think that the classified information presents some significant jeopardy in this particular case, because based on the volume of the documents that were discovered based on the fact that he had them for so long and the justice department had been trying to engage with him and his team to return them, and he did not. so, i tend to look at this through a national security lens and look at the harm caused, the potential harm that would be cause to national security from these potential documents. and then, if he has in fact obstructed, or the
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individuals close to him, lawyers, advisers, et cetera, obstructed in the courts of that investigation, i think that is the one from a federal perspective really raises the stakes from the federal government's perspective, why in other cases they would throw a case like this, in other cases why wouldn't they pursue it in this particular case? >> carrie, john, appreciated. coming up, next i will speak with senator bernie sanders about democrats efforts to try to gain momentum ahead of the midterms just 20 days way, we will also take a look at the wisconsin senate race between republican candidate ron johnson, and democratic lieutenant governor, mandela barnes. mandela barnes. to destroy 5x more plaque above the gumline than floss. for a cleaner, healthier mouth. listerine. feel the whoa! one prilosec otc each morning blocks heartburn all day and all night. prilosec otc reduces excess acid for 24 hours, blocking heartburn before it starts. one pill a day. 24 hours. zero heartburn.
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>> 20 days away from the minimal actions. polling suggest the republicans have the upper hand, by trying to own without higher gas prices today. announcing the sale of an additional 15 million barrels of oil from the strategic petroleum reserve. the move will not happen until december. gas prices are just one of obviously many headwinds the president and his party are facing. president also gave remarks on the bipartisan infrastructure law today. who travel to pennsylvania tomorrow. to get remarks on that topic
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and attend a fund-raiser for democratic candidate john fetterman. they obviously think that is a crucial race and then on friday, will travel to delaware to talk about student loan forgiveness. just before airtime, i spoke with vermont senator bernie sanders on the democrats strategy. >> senator sanders, you said you've been working on the campaign blitz because you are concerned that the energy level for the younger working class foreign is not as high as you think it should be, why do you think that is? >> i don't know, but i do know that in recent years we've seen a significant uptick in young people participating in elections 2018 to 2020. and i just want to make sure that given the fact we have a younger generation that is quite progressive. people who are concerned about economics in the sense that they are standard of living is lower than their parents can afford. can't vote housing have a past minute concerned about racism and sexism and homophobia in the phobia.
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i just want to make sure that they understand how terribly important this election is. and see if we can get them out to vote. >> he warned democrats should not focus solely on the issue of abortion. traditionally, even people who say that abortion is an important issue for them, it has not been an issue that is top of the list and certainly in examples of what cast a particular ballot. you've said that democrats have to have an economic message to voters and so do you think the democrats of over indexed on focusing on abortion? >> maybe, look i happen to believe that a woman's right to control her own body is absolutely what we should be. the supreme court decision was a total disaster. in your 2022, we should not be telling women what they should do with their own bodies. but i also happen to think that given the fact that for the last 50 years, real wages for american workers are lower today than they were 50 years ago, that people cannot afford health care, they can't afford prescription drugs, that many
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people are working for starvation wages at a time when the very wealthiest people in this country are becoming wealthier, and we see more and more income in wealth inequality, i think those are issues, anderson, you just cannot ignore. people are hurting. and here is what is to me really rather amazing. the republican agenda, for working class people, it is a total reactionary disaster. you have a party, which in the midst of when the rich are getting much richer, you know what they want to do? they want to give massive tax breaks to billionaires, when so many of our seniors are struggling to keep their heads above water. you are seeing it every day, republicans are more and more avert about saying you know what? we want to cut social security, and medicare, and medicaid. when you have millions of workers working for
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starvation wages, we cannot get one vote from them to raise the minimum wage to at least 15 bucks. no supporting in a versatile health care, no support for taking on the prescription drug industry and lowering the cost of production jobs. >> recent polls show that voters show the economy and inflation are the most important issues. they prefer republicans to democrats by a 34 point margin. i mean, if what you say is true, how do you believe the republicans came to dominate on this issue? >> well, it is astounding to me, i think that the democrats are simply advocated and walked off the debate stage. they have allowed republicans to do all of the talking. republicans talk about inflation. well, inflation is a serious issue. what are they going to do about
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it? are they going to lower rages which is, is that their response? inflation is a global issue. many countries around the world, it is suddenly higher than it is in the united states. what are they going to do about the high cost of prescription drugs? do they have the guts to take on the pharmaceutical industry? no. they do not. >> former president obama made comments on a podcast recently saying that some of the focus on language among more liberal members of the democratic party, i just want to play this for our viewers and get your reaction. >> how does politics, how isn't even relevant to the things that i carol steeply about? my family, my kids, you know, work that gives me satisfaction, having fun, you know, not being a buzzkill, right? sometimes democrats are, right? it is like, sometimes people just want to not feel as if they are walking on eggshells. >> there are certainly a lot of republican candidates who have used wokeness as an attack line in the election. do you agree with what the former president said? >> what i agree with, and what i take from that is that we have got to make politics relevant to ordinary people's lives. and i think that in general, the congress, the corporate media, if you like,
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has ignored the enormous desperation that working class families are now experiencing. and it is not just inflation, people cannot afford to send their kids to college, they can't afford health care which is skyrocketing, they can't afford the cost of rent, which is also skyrocketing. and i think that what we have got to do is make politics relevant to ordinary people. bring people into the process. hear what they have to say. and explain to them why the very richest people in this country are doing phenomenally well, while they are struggling. and then have the guts, anderson, to take on those powerful corporate interests whose greed,
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in my view, is doing so much harm to working families throughout this country. >> senator sanders, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> one of the closely watched senate races is in wisconsin between incumbent republican ron johnson and republican mandala barnes. he has a long history of conspiracy theories from his role in the former presidents fake electors scheme to his claims at the january 6th capitol riot was not an armed insurrection. he was also critic of the covid vaccines, and even peddled mouthwash as a treatment for covid. cnn's manu raju has the latest on his bid for reelection. >> it wasn't too long ago that democrats could hardly believe their luck. despite being saddled with controversy, an unpopular battleground wisconsin, ron johnson decided to run for a third senate term, making him the most endangered gop incumbent. but the terrain has shifted. johnson has an edge against lieutenant governor mandala barnes.
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>> people are just hitting their heads against the wall, how do we let this happen? >> johnson has benefited from a perfect storm. first, winning in the 2010 tea party wave. then, during donald trump's 2016 stunner. now, by voter anger over inflation. >> what has happened in the last two months has changed this race? >> i think inflation. i mean, everybody is feeling it in their pocketbook. >> after he won his party's nomination in august, a poll showed him up by seven points. now, the same pollster shows him ahead of barnes with voters. johnson and big gop groups have outspent democrats by millions on tv. attacking burns of crime on immigration. >> mandela barnes does not have the judgment to keep our communities safe. >> mandela barnes stands with defund the police. >> and a low burns as a radical leftist. >> putting him on the defense.
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>> we knew the other side would make applies against me to scare you. >> caught lying. >> mandela, who is the real deal? he does not want to defund the police. >> his supporters fear that that is hardly enough. >> his campaign seems to be faltering. >> are you concerned that those attacks may be working? >> they seem to be working, yes. i am very concerned. >> one of barnes's primary foes, current supporter, blames democrats for an ineffective strategy after the primary. >> they have the national party come in and screw things up in the first month of the general election, in my book it is unforgivable. the national party has totally failed us so it is time for wisconsin democrats -- >> campaigning in the small towns of northern wisconsin, barnes told cnn that he was not caught flat-footed. >> were you prepared for this onslaught of attacks? >> the reality is that we always expected ron johnson to distort the truth and try to
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hide from his own record. >> barnes's ads have steered clear of johnson's controversies, like his downplaying of the january 6th capitol attack, or snowing down on the covid-19 vaccine. instead, accusing johnson of enriching himself in office, and for supporting a ban on abortion. >> you wouldn't just ban abortions. doctors could go to jail for it. >> and barnes, who would be the state's first black senator is going to appear next week in milwaukee with the nation's first black president, barack obama. but no plans yet with the current president whose unpopularity remains a liability. >> do you think biden should run for reelection? >> we will cross that bridge when we get there. we still have to get through november 8th, 2022. >> and manu raju joins us from milwaukee. how is printed -- before the midterms? >> anderson, it is not entirely clear. we are just campaign what he is doing, especially this week as we are reporting on this piece. they would not disclose his campaign events, and they wouldn't disclose that to other reporters as well. he did appear on fox news a couple of times. he did ask for some donations. now, on the
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democratic side, an outside group today was releasing an ad attacking johnson over his comments over january six. but that has not been a major focus of the democratic campaign. in fact, i asked mandala barnes why they have not chose to focus on that issue. instead he said we wanted to focus on other issues like economic ones instead. democrats still believe that there is a path to victory here, that market university poll that has barnes down by six points tested likely voters. it tested a larger set of voters, registered voters, it showed the race in a dead even race. so, democrats hope of they can get their voters to the polls, they still have a path, even though johnson seems to have traction at this point in the campaign. >> manu raju, thank you very much, we will see. up next, marshall long unaffected for ukrainian regions. vladimir putin claims to have an ex. we will talk to cnn's matthew chance on the ground in moscow, next. hing/sneezing ] [ door knocking ] dude, you coming? alka-seltzer plus powermax gels cold & flu relief with more concentrated power. because the only thing dripping should be your style! plop plop fizz fizz, winter warriors with alka-seltzer plus.
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marshall law is now in effect for ukrainian regions that russia claims to have annexed, a move by russian president vladimir putin that is in violation of international law. it comes as russian-installed leaders in ukraine's kherson region began ramping up efforts to relocate civilians. our senior international correspondent for the ukraine eastern front in one of the russian occupied regions where ukrainian troops are facing a herd hardened russian defense. here's part of his report. >> our car has not even come to a full stop when the first full hits nearby. the medic stops,
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we need to take cover as best we can. >> we are waiting here. >> we are taking cover here because we just have some incoming artillery fire, we are going to we can hope that there is not anywhere it's close to us. [noise] >> we are at the receiving end of a full russian artillery barrage. [noise] >> photojournalist richard harlow tracks several of the projectiles wheezing close over our heads.
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[noise] >> that is a view on the front lines. now we go to matthew chance who joins us from moscow. matthew, can you explain what all of this means from the four regions that vladimir putin is talking about, declaring martial law? >> yeah, i think on paper it means quite a lot. because these are draconian laws, it means the military authorities, the russian military in the areas where it is in charge have virtually absolute power to do whatever they want. they can seize property, they can force people to fight on the front line, they can make arrests and detain people. so these are very tough laws indeed. but actually, in practical terms, on the ground, i am not sure they are going to make a whole lot of difference. these are already war zones, and of course, russians do not have control over a lot of the areas over which they say they have imposed martial law in. so i think that is something to bear in mind. i think we have to remember, though, that russia, the kremlin, the
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military, have been critical heavily criticized over the last couple of months about the way that the conflict, the military situation has been conducted by the generals here, there has been a lot of internal criticism. and this is the kremlin's answer to that to show that it is not going to back down. it is going to double down, and do whatever it takes to go all in on this continuing special military operation, as they call it. >> putin also announce he's increasing the power of local authorities and all russian regions, and adding additional restrictions to russian regions near ukraine. what does not mean exactly? >> i think that is really, really ominous because he could have imposed martial law on those areas as well. he didn't. he just imposed them on those four regions inside ukraine. but it was kind of like a martial law light in the rest of the country, particularly on the border area where there are really tough travel restrictions that are coming into force. there is going to be a lot of military checkpoints, and a real serious
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military crackdown in those areas. whether it has been quite a sustained artillery bombardment at times from inside ukraine to those border areas. but even further, as you go further east into russia, even in moscow, the capital, there are tough military restrictions being imposed here. now, it is not as bad as martial law in those ukrainian regions, but this always has groundwork that has now been laid. there's every possibility that if the circumstances require it, they will demand it from the point of view of the kremlin, they can always expand martial law to this those border areas and potentially across the rest of the country as well. so in that sense, it is a really concerning development. >> matthew chance reporting from moscow, thank you so much, we appreciate it. up next, protests continue in iran after the death more than a month ago of 22 year old young woman while in custody of the morality police for allegedly not wearing a hijab. now, a rock climber who didn't wear a hijab while competing overseas,
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sound familiar? it should. vote no on prop 27. >> iran, for the people continue to protest the death of muscle, in custody by the so-called morality police. for allegedly not wearing a hijab. protesters are defying crackdowns this week the crowd took the street flooding fires as you see there. in another recent, protesters marched in the streets wearing their head scarves. anywhere from 60 to 200 people are estimated to have been killed so far, but we cannot confirm those figures. now, there has been certain rock lammers or back in iran. elnaz rekabi it's her name, she competed in south korea, as you see, without a hijab. she said today it was an accident, when she returned a crowd at the airport chanted elnaz rekabi the hero. thousands of people are still showing up in these
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protests every day risking their lives. what are you hearing from those inside iran? >> anderson, it is really remarkable. it has been nearly five weeks since these protests started. not only are they continuing to spread like wildfire across the country, they have morphed into what some are describing as a national uprising, calling for regime change. this, despite the government's attempts to crush these protests, they are using the same brutal tactics they have used in the past of dealing with protests, we have been speaking to people, protesters, who are taking part in these protests as well as those who took part in demonstrations back in 2019. those were quite different. short lived, and more about the economy. but they are all reporting, firsthand, these terrifying tactics used by the authorities, anderson. they are not only being shut out when they are at the streets, they are beaten up, they say they are detained, tortured for days,
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unimaginable torture, and they are coerced into signing confessions saying that they have been paid by the u. s., the uk, and israel to create chaos in iran. and then they are released. but it does not stop there. they say that they are watched for years, and they are threatened. this one when we spoke to, he was a protester in 2019, he says that authorities continue to harass him. they freeze his bank account at times, and sometimes they called him threatening to kill his children, and rape his wife. and he is out on the streets again protesting, this time with his children. it is just remarkable. this defiance. nothing seems to be stopping the people right now, and they know the cost of their defiance in iran, anderson. >> we have seen cell phone videos of people being stuffed into trunks of cars, shot in the street, there is reporting that protesters, i know you heard reporting that protesters
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who have been injured, or sometimes too scared to go to hospitals to seek medical help. >> we have seen these horrific images, of their injuries over the past few weeks, anderson. the security forces not only using live ammunition according to human rights groups, they are also shooting at them with metal pilots, filling up pain balls with metal pallets and shooting them at protesters. so you end up with these horrific injuries. and protesters are telling us that they are too scared to go to hospitals, because security forces are going to hospitals and clinics, they are hunting down protesters, identifying them by those same injuries that they have inflicted on them. we have had reports of doctors arrested, ambulances being used to detain protesters, and you end up in a situation where these protesters are telling us that they do not know who to trust, they don't know what to do right now, some are relying on a small underground network of doctors who are risking their lives helping them, and then you have got others who are reaching out to the iranian community abroad, including the u. s., asking for help connecting them to doctors. >> i appreciated, thank you.
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