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trump signing on to these court filings, john. >> there is an issue about trying to get a notary over zoom? sounds bizarre. help me. >> there was an issue about sort of could we change the way that we're phrasing this, could we get a notary over zoom so we're not essentially saying all of this stuff is true under punishment of perjury so they were sort of spitballing options and gives you an indication of how chaotic it was, how they wanted to prevent the former president from having legal exposure but continue to reiterate the claims of fraud that have been debunked. >> the more you learn the more bizarre and more corrupt it gets. sara murray, thanks for that. on election night join us, join cnn for our coverage that starts tuesday, election day at 4:00 p.m. eastern. learn what's happening. what's happening in your state, around the country. thanks for joining us on "inside politics." ana cabrera picks up right now. hello, i'm ana cabrera in
new york. thank you for being with us as we await a critical decision minutes away that could have major fallout from your bank account. the federal reserve is poised to once again raise interest rates to try to tame inflation. this would be the fourth straight big rate hike and the impacts will certainly be felt at the white house less than a mile away where we'll hear shortly from president biden set to discuss his latest efforts to bolster the economy. and then tonight he'll make a primetime address focused on threats to democracy. but it is those pocketbook issues that most voters say are most important as they fill in their ballot. you can see the economy tops the list with election day now five days away. matt egan is live outside the federal reserve. how much pressure is the fed facing right now to make the right call here? >> reporter: well, ana, the pressure has just been building and building on the fed. it's palpable. people are angry about the high
cost of living an feeling it at the supermarket and home heating bills and gas stations and at the same time we have politicians including senator elizabeth elizabeth warren they're going too far and worried about a recession that wipes out millions of jobs. they don't have a magic wand. what they do have are rate hikes, raising the cost of borrowing and trying to cool off demand to give supply a chance to catch up. so in less than an hour we are expecting the fed to raise interest rates by 75 basis points. this would be the fourth massive interest rate hike in a row. we haven't seen anything like that since at least the 1980s and this is, of course, raising concerns about a recession because history shows that the fed tends to underreact to inflation and then overreact because we've seen that recessions often but not always follow these interest rate
hiking campaigns. we saw that in the early 1990s and saw it again in the early 2000s and, of course, around 2008. ana, the fed really faces an almost impossible situation here because they don't do enough, inflation stays high and maybe goes higher. if they do too much they end up causing a recession. >> right, which means job losses and we don't want to see that. matt, thank you for that. we don't know exactly when or even if today's move will be enough to tame inflation, but we do know you will feel this rate hike that comes today. cnn business correspondent rahel solomon is here to explain. borrowing rates are already high obviously. what happens after today's rate hike? >> practically anything with an interest rate not locked in is probably gregory to go up. if you are borrowing or plan to borrow those costs are probably going to go up. ana, we talk about mortgage rates. understandably, mortgage rates have more than doubled just this year alone but take a look at
the average credit card rate which right now is sitting at about 18.7%. i just got off the phone with ted rossman from bankrate. in 30 years of their experience on average the highest was about 19% for credit cards. that was in 1991 i believe it was. he thinks we're going to blow past that next week. so for folks at home, prepare for that. >> what do they need to do first? is there something perhaps they can put on the back burner? >> big ticket purchases, you might want to be careful about taking that out especially if you have to put it on a credit card. what he told me, ted rossman, if you are carrying a credit card balance which is on average 5200 bucks first obviously if you can afford to pay it off pay it off but understandably some people can't. think about prachgs a zero rate balance transfer. if not that, if you have good credit perhaps you can consider a personal loan. you can get maybe a 6% interest rate but then you spread it out over several years, certainly better than paying 18% or 19%,
right, then maybe some nonprofit credit card counseling. housing and cars i asked about. car prices are high, housing prices are also high. if you are waiting it out in terms of the housing market to see if prices crash 20% one we hope that doesn't happen but we're not expecting that to happen either so that's a much more specific scenario so have to do what's best for you. maybe sit it out until rates cool off at least. >> so maddening to think the average american is just getting pummeled from both sides, right, inflation and interest rates and yet we have reporting about corporate profits really blooming and so i think a lot of people may be wondering, can't there be another way to tackle this? aren't there other options. >> yeah, it's interesting, right, we heard jay powell say in the past, i think it was the last meeting, i wish there was a painless way to do it, to tame inflation but there isn't. the truth of the matter, in terms of what the fed can control interest rates are their primary big tool, right, but you're right, that absolutely hurts if you are certainly on the lower end and not only
dealing with higher costs but now you're also dealing with higher borrowing costs you're getting hit on both sides. that is the unfortunate reality of taming inflation. >> thanks for bringing us an easier understanding of what's happening. to cnn's phil maltingly at the white house. the president and vice president will be speaking again today about what they're trying to go to help everyday americans on the economy but then the president turns to a different topic tonight in primetime with a speech on threats to democracy. so is this the president trying to shift the focus for voters? >> reporter: you know, ana, one white house official i was speaking to said not only can we do both we have to do both when it comes to addressing two topics, one top of mind for voters in poll after poll after poll. one that white house officials are keenly aware the primary mandate belongs to the federal reserve where matt egan is standing and yet the president and the vice president will be having corresponding events tied to trying to address outside factors when it comes to
inflation, that critical issue for voters just six days out from the midterm elections. the president will hold an event on a public/private agreement to try to expand the workforce in critical sectors like construction and broadband. the idea being that there have obviously been significant labor shortages over the course of the last several months that interest contributed in large part to the inflation we're seeing right now. this isn't a near-term fix. it underscores the fact there's very little the executive branch can do to try to address inflation that remains at four-decade highs but can put into place longer term solutions they believe will have an effect. the vice president will be in boston announcing $4.5 billion to help address soaring energy costs, particularly heating costs as well as some long-term proposals on that front as well. again, not directly getting at the price increases that we've seen that have been so pervasive and persistent but trying to address the overall cost of living. the speech tonight, though, is very much something that's been driven by the president and
heard him talk about it before. obviously he had a major primetime speech in philadelphia a couple of weeks ago but officials tell me he's been talking about this pretty constantly behind the scenes as he's watched things play out over the course of the last several months. one thing that set the tone for what you're going to see tonight was the attack on nancy pelosi's husband paul. the president obviously close with the speaker, knows her husband, that is really resonating inside the white house and helped drive the idea that this is a speech that needs to be made, two very different topics but topics the president believes he can address six days out from the election. >> phil mattingly, thank you. let's find out more about what voters are thinking right now. cnn political director david chalian is here to walk us through new cnn polling. what does it show, david? >> yeah, this is our brand-new poll conducted by srrs. among likely voters will you vote for the republican or the democrat in your congressional district and you see here, 51%,
a slim majority of likely voters say they'll vote for the republican, an advantage over the democrats 47% and take a look here over time. what you see is since the beginning of last month, republicans have grown plus 4 and democrats went from 50% to 47% minus 3 so you see that as we're getting closer to the election likely voters are giving more advantage to the republicans. i also want to show you a critical sort of dividing line in american politics that we've been tracking for the better part of a decade now, ana. that is the sort of education divide. take a look here, among likely voters, white college educated likely voters you see a slight edge for republicans, 52% of likely white college educated voters in the poll will vote for the republican candidate, 47% democrat. why is that critical? because joe biden in 2020 edged out donald trump among these
voters. in 2018 when the democrats won 40 seats, they had a big advantage among these voters. hillary clinton just lost them to donald trump. this has been a group of voters that that's been moving to the democrats in the trump era but now we may see them swinging back and that's something to watch for next tuesday night. >> so what specifically is behind this growing support for republicans? >> well, the mood of the country is not good. take a look here. three-quarters of americans in our poll say things are going pretty or very batly in america, only 26% think things are going very or fairly well in the country. so that spells for a change election. the issue that is driving this election as you were just talking about with phil is the economy and inflation. overwhelmingly, 51% of likely voters in our poll say the economy and inflation is issue number one and take a look by party here. i think this really tells the
story and why you see two different messages coming out of the white house tonight, right? among democrats, abortion is actually the top one, 29% of them say abortion is the number one issue, 27% economy, and inflation, 15% say voting rights. look here on the republican side. it's near unanimity. seven in ten republicans say economy is issue number one. nothing else even comes close and, by the way, among voters who say that the economy is the most important vote, most important issue, look how they split here on the ballot. 71% of likely economy voters are going to vote for the republican they say 26% for the democrat. so republicans clearly have an advantage when it comes to the issue environment as well. >> among likely voters here but none of this matters if those likely voters don't become actual voters. >> that's true. >> so who has the edge as far as voter enthusiasm. >> we learn the republicans have that as well. so these results are among those that tell us they are extremely
enthusiastic. the most enthusiastic you can be on our scale to vote in the midterm elections. right now 38% of the extremely enthusiastic voters will vote republican. 4% are going to vote democrat. that's a 14 percentage-point advantage for the republicans, which mirrors near what we saw in october 2010 when republicans won 63 seats in the house that year. >> okay, this is just a snapshot but gives us an idea where voters are right now. david, thank you so much. >> thank you. a stunning email revealing new details on donald trump's effort to steal the 2020 election. one of trump's lawyers describing supreme court justice clarence thomas as key to delaying biden's win. why would the lawyer think that? plus, north korea is at it again launching a record number of missiles in a single day as the u.s. accuses the secretive regime of supplying russia with heavy artillery. a chilling cry for help. hear the heartbreaking voice of
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♪ this is how we work now ♪ we are just getting stunning new details about former president trump and his lawyer's effort to delay the certification of the 2020 election. an email turned over to the january 6th select committee indicates one of trump's lawyers thought supreme court justice clarence thomas would be key to their plans. cnn's kaitlin pollance helped to break this story. >> reporter: emails where donald trump's lawyers were discussing what to do whenever they were filing cases after the election to overturn the result of that
election and these emails we are now seeing them in writing, this is exactly what was said that convinced a federal judge that they may have been engaged in planning a crime, specifically defrauding the united states after that election. i want to read some of them. we knew about them before that federal judge david o. carter described them in court but now we're seeing them because they were provided in a link in a court filing last night very early in the morning. so one of them is from attorney ken cheese, to challenge the election. he wrote to other attorneys on december 31st, 2020, if we can just get this case pending before the supreme court by january 5th, ideally with something positive written by a judge or justice hopefully thomas, i think it's our best shot at holding up the count of a state in congress. so there's chesebro saying they
want to get it before a favorable judge and challenge it in court not because they wanted to litigate it but wanted a reason for congress not to assert joe biden as the president and instead keep the possibility alive that donald trump could continue challenging the election. chesebro wrote in another email on december 31st new year's eve 2020, possibly thomas would end up being the key here, circuit justice, right? we want to frame things so that thomas could be the one to issue some sort of stay or other circuit justice opinion saying georgia is in legitimate doubt, so this was a legal challenge that they were bringing in georgia in federal court that donald trump was attesting to the truth of facts in a case and justice thomas would have been the person to receive that challenge, of course, he also has been under a political furor because of some of his wife's comments about wanting to challenge the election as well. back to you. >> and, of course, just a
reminder that it was eventually the supreme court as a whole entity rejected any of these cases related to election fraud lawsuits that the trump team and his allies brought and that was even after the insurrection so they didn't even take up the case. katelyn, thank you. norm eisen is joining us. what's so stunning is the why. why would they think that clarence thomas would support them? if you're on the january 6th committee are you digging deep near that now? >> ana, definitely. we know that clarence thomas had a completely alternative view of the law and the universe. he said it was befuddling and inex-flickable that the supreme court did not intervene to investigate these bogus and factually unfounded claims, so they saw correctly that he was
an ally and then, of course, there are are the questions about his conflicts involving his wife ginni thomas. >> right, and all the text messages she exchanged with people part of the effort to try to stop the legal transfer of power and certification. norm, justices are supposed to recuse even if there is an appearance of conflict of interest. does this fit the bill here? >> in any other court in the country uchdz federal law, a judge who had a spouse who had been advocating a position in this completely illegitimate attack on the election which has been characterized by another court, federal court in california as an attempted coup that is likely criminal, any other judge would have to recuse. in the supreme court you know
who makes that decision? clarence thomas. that doesn't make sense in a democracy. as somebody who's traed ethics for more than three decades and advised president obama and other public officials on this, he should not have heard that case and he should not be hearing anything relating to january 6th to date. >> norm eisen as always, i appreciate your insights. thanks for joining us. >> thanks, ana. members of the pelosi family soon will see police body cam footage and hear the 911 call from the night paul pelosi was brutally attacked with a hammer. new details about last week's attack on the house speaker's husband are also emerging here. the suspect telling san francisco police he was on a suicide mission. cnn's veronica miracle is following the developments. what are nancy pelosi's family members expected to see and hear and any word on when it could be released to the public? >> reporter: well, ana, we
continued to receive more disturbing details. the san francisco police chief yesterday saying that the 911 call was about three minutes long, the pelosi family is going to be able to hear that and you can hear mr. pelosi subtly trying to describe to the dispatcher that he is in danger, the chief of police actually here in san francisco credits that dispatcher with saving paul pelosi's life. in terms of the blody camera video we are expecting the pelosi family will see a savage attack. the chief of police has described that mr. pelosi was seen on body camera video being hit at least once with a hammer. here's what he had to say. >> what is crystal clear to me is he tried to kill mr. pelosi. now, what was going on in his mind as to why he did that, i can't speak to that. but what is very clear to me from viewing that body worn camera he tried to kill
mr. pelosi. >> reporter: now in terms of seeing that video and that being released to the public and that 911 call, the district attorney has reiterated they are trying to keep as much evidence close to the investigation as possible and if the public were to see that, it would have to come out in court proceedings. but we have learned a lot of details in that motion to detain, it was filed by the district attorney and it argues why david depape should be continued to be held in custody. it just describes depape voluntarily quoted telling the medics and police on scene why he was there and what his intentions were at the pelosi residence. he's quoted as asking mr. pelosi, well, she's number two in line for the presidency, right? and when he agreed, he said we've got to take them all out. i'm sick of the insane f'ing level of lying coming out of washington, d.c. brooke jenkins says this was absolutely a politically
motivated attack. the motion to detain also says that. depape described and talked about other targets that he had including a local professor as well as other federal and state officials including their family members. he also said two officers on the scene that depape about depape, about mr. pelosi, rather, that he didn't want to hurt him, rather that he would go through him if he had to. ana. >> the more we learn the more and more concerning and disturbing the case becomes, thank you, veronica miracle, for that reporting. first on cnn u.s. officials now accuse north korea of secretly sending ammunition to russia for its war on ukraine. plus, alarming new reporting on conversations between russian military leaders about nuclear weapons. details on those discussions just ahead. you know you have a team behind yoyou that can help you. not having to woworry about the future
russia to use in ukraine. cnn's kate bow little lilis. >> reporter: it's not clear the united states has seen any of these shells appear on the battlefield in ukraine. national security council official john kirby says the u.s. is still monitoring to see whether they have received any of these shipments but thanks to a new piece of intelligence, the biden administration does believe that this deal is moving forward and broadly u.s. officials say the very fact that russia has been forced to turn to north korea for ammunition suggests that eight months of war have depleted not just their stocks of more sophisticated guided munitions but also their arsenal of just plain old artillery. russia has been conducting this punishing artillery war on the front lines that one military analyst said to me this morning has likely burned through millions of shells at this point so it's possible that north korea is filling a pretty
important hole for russia right now depending on how many shells they've sent. >> so it seems like the u.s. is struggling to track these shipments coming from north korea. why is that? >> reporter: well, for one thing according to this declassified intelligence north korea is trying to make it look like these shipments are actually going to north africa or the middle east, anywhere but russia and generally speaking north korea is a really hard intelligence target for the united states. this has been so tricky, in fact, that as recently as a couple of weeks ago u.s. officials were telling us that they still had seen no signs that these shipments had actually been sent, that, of course, has obviously changed but it gives you a sense of how new this information is and how murky the space is. >> katie bo lillis, thank you. u.s. intel officials say russian military leaders have talked about how and when they would use a nuclear weapon in ukraine. now on its face that's alarming but some u.s. officials are divided on just how serious the
threat really is. keep in mind the pentagon estimates that russia has an active stockpile of up to 2,000 nonstrategic nuclear weapons. cnn white house reporter natasha bertrand joins us. why the differing opinion? >> reporter: the differentiation really hinges on the sourcing in this intelligence product. there are some people in the administration who believe it is thinly sourced. that it is mostly analysis whereas others are viewing it with more concern. broadly the administration believes that there is this intelligence that suggests that the russian generals have been speaking about how and when they might use a nuclear weapon in ukraine, basically the circumstances under which they would actually deploy that nuclear weapon but the difference in opinion here comes into play when you consider how the people, the administration officials are actually interpreting this intelligence. obviously, you know, this is not a monolith. not something that is a perfect science. intelligence requires a lot of
interpretation and some officials said they believe that some of this conversation reflected in this new intelligence analysis could be taken out of context, that it has been misinterpreted but, look, others say this should be taken seriously because of all of the rhetoric that we have heard coming from the russians over the last several weeks and, of course, the battlefield losses that they are sustaining in ukraine. now, of course, we heard that russian president vladimir putin has said in speeches that the russians would be willing to use such a weapon if necessary and so they're watching this, the u.s. is watching this with a lot of concern as to how this plays out but so far no real consensus on how real this is and imminent, ana. >> what is that threshold is the big question for the kremlin to take that horrific and un, you know, believable really step. thank you, natasha bertrand. we are getting new video i want to show you allegedly showing putin's military helicopters being sabotaged deep inside russia more than 600 miles from ukraine. you can see an unidentified man
appearing to prepare and planting explosives on to an aircraft. at types he holds what could be a timer to his ear. cnn traced this video to an airfield in russia. explosions reported that night and a satellite image later shows several damaged helicopters there. ukraine is not directly saying whether it's responsible for this attack, but says the explosions were the result of, quote, mining and that three helicopters were destroyed. back here at home, a very brave fourth grader had the courage to call for help that wouldn't come for 40 minutes. hear the chilling 911 tape of 10-year-old chloe torres pleading for help as her classmates and teachers were slaughterered in robb elementar school. >> / /* ng for free! this guy loves a great offer.. so let's see some hustle!
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with the shooter during the uvalde massacre. chloe had to wait 40 more minutes for that help to come and her parents now want the world to know her story. >> she's not doing very good. she's a really strong girl so one day at a time. >> those kids actually that day in my opinion stopped being kids that day and now are in survival mode, protection mode and that's what we see with our daughter and that's what we hear from the other survivors as well. they've been pressing law enforcement from the beginning for more answers, more transparency and the recording of this 911 call, the things she said and how she expressed herself. what bravery. it's incredible. >> terrifying to think this went
on for so long. and all these kids would be in that classroom for 77 minutes waiting for help pleading on the phone for officers to come and help them. you know, we're only airing this because we got permission from the parents. it is so disturbing and we want our viewers to be aware some of what they hear could be difficult to listen to. >> we do have a child on the line. >> reporter: this was the moment everything at the scene in uvalde should have changed. at 12:10:00 p.m. on may 24th, fourth grader khloie torres who survived the shooting spoke to 911. police just a few feet away in the hallway where just minutes later made aware the worst case scenario was unfolding. khloie along with her classmates or teachers some dead or were dying trapped with an active shooter. it's the phone call that should have made the difference. instead it would be another 40
minutes until police finally enter the room and kill the gunman. cnn has obtained a call never made public until now, a warning to our viewers, it's painful to hear. we're choosing to play portions of the audio with the approval of khloie's parents and because it's crucial to understand the full scope of the law enforcement failure that day. >> hello. >> it's a school shooting. >> are you with officers? >> i'm in classroom -- the classroom. 112. >> 112. >> 112. >> 112. >> what's your name, ma'am? >> khloie torres. please hurry. there are a lot of dead bodies. >> yes, ma'am, please help. >> reporter: you can hear
injured people in the room crying out in pain. the dispatcher asked khloie to ask her classmates to stay quiet. she does her best. >> tell them to be quiet. >> i am. i'm telling them. my dad taught me when i was a little girl how to handle these situations. send help. >> reporter: less than two minutes into the call at 12:12:00 p.m., the uvalde dispatcher sends an urgent message to police on the scene. >> go ahead with that child's information. >> the child is advising he is in the room for of victims at this moment. >> ten-four. can you confirm to see if that's true or still standing? shot himself. >> reporter: if active shooter
protocol would have followed it would have triggered police to spring into action and breach the classroom. instead 38 minutes were allowed to go by as more officers arrive on scene with more equipment until something is done. nearly 400 officers responded in uvalde. khloie wanted to know where they are. >> help is on the way? >> they're inside the building, okay. stay quiet, okay? >> stay quiet. >> reporter: on the other side of the door the law enforcement response was disorganized and chaotic. official reports detail the catastrophic mistake that was made. police on scene thought the shooter was a barricaded subject and not an active shooter. her call makes it clear an active shooter situation is unfolding. body camera footage from local and state police departments obtained by cnn shows the officers on scene knew about the phone call and that there were
children inside the room hurt and in desperate need of medical attention. >> i believe he does. there are nine children. >> how many victims in 112? >> no, we hasn't heard that. this is building 4. >> anybody hurt? >> no, not here, no, sir. here? >> the shooter is still in there. >> he's in here, yeah. >> from the last contact we had, last contact we had, one of his school pd officers, his wife is a teacher. >> they had a kid in 112. >> injured. >> [ bleep ]. >> oh, my god. i find myself almost physically ill watching that. it is just gut wrenching and i know you've been talking to families who are also just hearing this and seeing this for
the first time. >> and for the first time, ana, to think we're almost six months into this, november 24th will be six months, and these families have not been getting any information from anyone in uvalde, in texas. five months later these families are dealing with children who are in therapy who are dealing with such grief and they need answers to help their kids heal. i got off the phone with a parent just a short time ago right before we came on, before i joined you here, and she told me that she listened to the call. we sat and listened to it together and it is now enabled her to answer a lot of questions, her daughter has been talking about things that really weren't making any sense but now after listening to this call they are starting to -- it's making sense to her and she was so thankful. we're going to tell her story later but she was stow thankful for us and for what we are doing and that's what this is about. it's about the fact that you
have authorities who have refused, refused to give any information to the families and so it is falling on us and so we're doing our jobs and we're going to keep pushing and what's important is that these families are our partners in this. we are not doing anything without them and everything we do is with them and they are part of and they need to know. that is what they're telling me. we need to know what's going on and this is allowing us to have that information which we have not had really since day one. >> there are just too many school shootings but the amount of precision and digging and follow-up that you've been doing on this one, shimon, is such a service. i hope those families feel like that brings them something because they can't get those loved ones back. thank you so much, shimon. we'll be right back. (driver) conventional thinking would say verizon has the largest and fastest 5g network. but, they don't. they only cover select cities with 5g.
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um the number of michigan state football players suspended has now climbed to eight. video shows the visiting team there in the white uniform shoving, punching, allegedly kicking a university of michigan player in blue. this is the tunnel leading from the field to the locker room. this angle looking inside, the circle you see a michigan state player even swing a helmet. still trying to figure out what sparked all of this. police are leading this investigation. coy wire is joining us.
both schools seems to be taking this incident seriously. >> jim harbaugh is calling for criminal charges. he says two of his players were junior. one of the player's attorneys says he received a concussion. eight michigan state football players are now suspended, as you mentioned. the university released a statement yesterday saying, we are transparently working with law enforcement and the big ten kvrns to evaluate additional facts. we will continue to take appropriate action in this matter as we learn more. the student athlete suspensions will remain in place until the investigations are completed. michigan stadium, or the big house as it's called, 95-year-old venue has a shared tunnel, which sets a table for something like this. it's not uncommon to have shared tunnels, we see it in the nfl as
well, but it's something to, moving forward, look at how to make it safe as possible. >> guys, grow up. this is ridiculous. to stanford, now reviewing housing procedures, how a man, who is not a student was caught illegally living in the dorms. a local paper says william curry had been living there no nearly a year. he reportedly socialized with students, lived in five different rooms, and was regularly let into the rooms by the dorm's assistant. he was ultimately caught. it then took the school some time to find him in a basement last week. he was given a stay-away letter, and then escorted off campus. that does it for us today. thank you so much for joining us. and we continue right after this.
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