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going to mark the products down. discounts are coming, christine. as adobe said, expect discounts to be massive. >> that's good for inflation. when prices are falling, that helps bring down the inflation rates. what's happening at wayfair. >> wayfair was a hot online retailer but most of us have bought all of the couches and tables and chairs that we need so wayfair has seen the sales slow down and the stock has plunged 80% this year. wall street has really turned on the company. and it's emblematic of people kind of being a little bit tired of online shopping. they want to get in stores and experience some new stuff. >> but i can't get that jingle out of my head. i cannot get that jingle out of my head. i will say i guess this is my little personal finance rant here. we heard one of our guests say credit card interest rates, the store card interest rates are really, really high. well into the 20 pe%. if you can't pay for it when the credit card bill comes, be careful.
high interest rates are real bad for people who are buying stuff they don't pay for right away. that's my ba-humbug. thanks for joining us. i'm christine romans. cnn this morning starts right now. ♪ it's friday. friday. we love our jobs but it is friday. i think i love friday. >> tgif. >> we made it guys. >> we made it. we made it. good morning, everyone. don lemon here. poppy harlow, kaitlan collins and it is friday and we are happy to be here but we're happy that it's friday and we get a couple days off, because next week is going to be a marathon. >> we have a lot going on next week. >> wait until you see how long we're on television. we have cots behind us we're going to be sleeping on.
>> it's going to be a busy week. >> it is. and leading into next week there is an oprah size endorsement we have to talk about. it's in pennsylvania's senate race. will it make a difference? >> big one. hours from now thousands of twitter employees will learn if they are fired through email. what until you hear the details. and the employees are suing elon musk. and kyrie irving has apologized after his team suspended him for five games without pay. we'll tell you what he told his millions of followers overnight. the big headlines from the campaign trail this morning. oprah winfrey snubbing the man she turned into a household name. endorsing john fetterman over dr. mehmet oz in pennsylvania's very, very tight senate race. it comes as the closers from both parties hit the campaign
trail. president joe biden addressing the economy. his predecessor teasing another run for the white house. >> in order to make our country successful and safe and glorious, i will very, very, very probably do it again. okay. very, very, very probably. get ready, that's all i'm telling you. get ready. get ready. >> our cnn team is on the trail in the final days of the campaign. let's start now jessica dean live from montgomery county, just outside of philadelphia. so good morning to you. it's interesting because oprah helped to make dr. oz famous but now she's endorsing his opponent john fetterman. do you think it's going to swing any votes? >> good morning to you, don. happy friday, everybody. it's rare that a celebrity endorsement or any endorsement can move the needle in a major way but as you mentioned this is
a tight race, everyone is looking for any edge they can get on both sides. so the fetterman campaign and john fetterman himself delighted to have this endorsement. as you mentioned, there's a personal connection here. oprah making dr. oz a household name, backing his television show, having her on his television show. so the fact that she would come out and support fetterman is significant. i'll held you listen to what she had to say about it. >> you mentioned pennsylvania. i said it was up to the citizens of pennsylvania, and, of course, but i will tell you all this, if i lived in pennsylvania i would have already cast my vote for john fetterman for many reasons. >> fetterman is saying in a statement he is honored to get this endorsement and any edge they can get in the campaign they're going to take it. as for mehmet oz, this is the statement they released.
dr. oz loves oprah and respects the fact they have different politics. he believes we need more balance and less extremism in washington. that's the closing message we've heard again and again from oz casting himself as a moderate as someone who's going to go to washington and be partisan. fetterman trying to cast him as a fraud saying he has lived here in pennsylvania and is a person that will stand up for the people of pennsylvania. those are the dueling messages in the company. and oprah has weighed in and endorsed other democratic candidates in close races but not the close personal connection that exists in this one. >> thank you very much. i think that that's pretty strong coming from oprah if i lived in pennsylvania i would have already cast my ballot for john fetterman for many reasons. >> classy response from oz. she first put him on the show.
>> you can't condemn her. >> no, you can't condemn oprah. to georgia where there has been a record breaking early voter turn out. eva mckend joins us. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, senator warnock continues to make this argument that herschel walker is not fit to serve in the united states senate. when he says this, he's really making a play for republican voters as well. but if neither candidate gets to this critical 50 plus 1% here in georgia, then it is going to trigger a december runoff. so i asked senator warnock about this on the trail. this race remains incredibly close, are you prepared for it to go to a runoff? >> we are prepared to do whatever it takes to win. i'll tell you what's not close, my record and herschel walker's record. what i've spent my life doing and what he spent his life
doing. my opponent on the other hand seems very focused on himself. and he seems to be willing to make up anything in order to secure power. and what the people of georgia, i think, are asking themselves is for what purpose. >> reporter: now for his part, herschel walker seeming really confident on the campaign trail, telling his supporters that millions of dollars have been spent to frame and attack his character, only for this political newcomer to be running neck and neck with this incumbent senator. >> it is such a fascinating race. and so many people already voting. thanks very much for being there. a lot going on on the campaign trail. a night of dueling speeching as candidates and surrogates made their closing arguments in the final days. here's what they told voters going to the ballot box on tuesday. >> my objective when i ran was to build an economy from the bottom up and the middle out. and the fundamental shift that's working to compare this -- you
know, compared to the maga trickle down economics. >> biden and the far left lunatics are waging war on iowa farmers, crushing american energy and strangling iowa families with soaring prices. >> we're the only candidate that has hands on experience fighting against crime and gun violence. >> we have families all over the commonwealth worried about crime, so much so they won't send their kids outside. >> democracy is the political enactment of a spiritual idea. this notion that each of us has within us a spark of the divine. >> my offensive linemen they used to tell me sometime, follow me i take you to the promise land. i tell you, vote for me we all get to the promise land. >> let's fight for more, better, let's never give up. fight for freedom, fairness. >> i don't know why you can't look at america and understand
how rare and precious this country is. >> all the state legislative races, local races, they are critically, critically important. not a joke. they're going to determine whether our democracy is sustained. >> if you care about election integrity volunteer as an election poll worker, poll challenger we need you. be sure to tune in next tuesday, cnn will have special election coverage. it all starts at 4:00 p.m. eastern. we'll bring you the results. it's friday, usually people are happy but folks at twitter are not happy. twitter is warning employees to check your email today you may be fired. within hours elon musk's company will begin mass layoffs. the cuts coming within a week of him taking over the platform. christine romans has more. it's not a good day. >> good morning. >> they're going to find out through email but when? >> 9:00 a.m. west coast time,
noon east coast time. if you keep your job you get an email on your twitter email. if you lose your job you'll get it from whatever your other email address is. they expect thousands of these. yesterday they closed all the offices, said if you're in the office go home, on your way to a twitter office, don't come in. and you'll get an email whether or not you have a job on friday. if your employment is not impacted you receive a notification via twitter email. >> that's brutal. i know this sparked lawsuits. >> there's already a class action lawsuit filed in san francisco they didn't give enough warning time. there are locals, california laws, and federal laws that you have to give people notice. a similar lawsuit against tesla, elon musk dismissed and said it
was trivial. he probably won't care. but it's employees saying you can't do this so quickly. >> is it random? are they actually like drawing out of a hat, these people get to work, these people don't? have they had enough time to speak -- >> he has complained via twitter this weekend, there seem to be 10 managers for every one coder and he wants coders and engineers. he doesn't seem to value the leadership and the management. i think we can deduce that is where you will see a lot of people lose their jobs. he wants coders and engineers. >> okay. >> we'll see what elon musk's twitter is going to look like. this is a make or break day. he is probably going to cut half of the workforce. he mused about having a workforce of 3,000 employees instead of 7,500 employees. this will probably take twitter's size back to before it was public. >> do you remember those days? >> a long time ago. >> he talked about charging $8 a
month for a check to verify who you are. the verified check is how you know you're talking to a real person. so we're going to find out what elon musk's twitter will look like and today is an important day. >> what's fascinating about that to me is the verified people on twitter, sports figures, politicians, that's why people are on twitter -- >> to follow kaitlan collins. >> no. but to follow lebron james and the celebrities on there speaking freely on there. the idea of charging them is interesting. >> eight of the past 10 years the company has lost money. so he probably overpaid for this company. he has to find ways to make money. and that's cutting employees and charging. >> and being hyper bbolic on twitter. needs an audience. >> we'll be watching closely for those getting that email. brooklyn nets player, kyrie irving is finally apologizing. he tweeted a link to the
documentary that contains hateful rhetoric against jewish people, a lot of hateful rhetoric. the apology from him came after the nets suspended him. here's what he said shortly before he apologized when he was talking to the press. >> so i'm not here to compare anyone's atrocities or tragic events that their families have dealt with for generations of time. i'm here to continue to expose things that our world continues to put in darkness. i'm a light. i'm a beacon of light. it's what i'm here to do. >> cnn sports carolin mano joins us now. the things said in this documentary, so many things hateful to jewish people, there are so much here to understand why it matters he put it out there. what about the apology now, finally? >> as i said yesterday, everybody said he made a statement.
i said, i didn't see an apology in that. >> you clearly pointed out what was important yesterday. it was an apology that wasn't an apology. that's why it's so important for us to see kyrie irving apologize, statements are one thing, messages on social media are one thing. but every time we've seen him speak he has said, no, i know best, this is me. he's been described as difficult, complicated, he's oppositional is what he is. any time somebody tells him something he's going to do the opposite. it's good to see an apology on social media. i think that will prevent the nets from extending the five game suspension but he also said in that same apology on social media that he should have better pointed out the parts of the film he agreed with and parts he disagreed with. so that leaves open the door, what are you saying when this should be clear cut? >> you're reading my mind. maybe this is how he really feels and maybe they need to
deal with how he really feels instead of forcing him to apologize. from all of his actions so far, it seems to me, and i think to most people, that he has a strong belief in how he feels. i'm not saying it's right. but if he feels that way, why force him to apologize. maybe you should deal with the issue of him feeling that way, his beliefs, and whether you think he should represent your organization. instead of forcing someone into a position they don't believe. >> this is what he believes. he said he is a seeker of truth, he is who he is. this documentary is nuanced and complicated but it's very clear that there are anti-semitic tropes in the film. that is a theory that he identifies with and agrees with. he's been clear about this. so is this apology on social media enough, a problem that's going to continue? he has had a number of instances he's been oppositional with the
nba, starting in boston and now with the nets. he's a complicated person. to your point i think it's well noted, he needs to deal with some of the things that he feels and figure out a way to express them that makes sense that doesn't do irreparable harm to communities. that's what this is about. >> thank you very much. we are going to be joined later in the show by bob costas. >> i can't wait to hear what bob has to say. >> me too. iran asking russia for help building up its nuclear capabilities. and millions of ukrainians are in the cold after russia's litest attacks. christiane amanpour is on the ground for us live in kyiv.
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this morning on iran seeking russia's help to boost its nuclear weapons program. that's according to u.s. intelligence sources who say tehran may be looking for a backup plan should a nuclear plan fail to materialize. natasha what are you learning from these intelligence sources? >> reporter: sources tell me that u.s. intelligence assesses that iran has been asking russia for help in bolstering the nuclear weapons program through nuclear materials, through nuclear fuel fabrication. which could help fuel iran nuclear power reactors and shorten that breakout time it takes iran to develop a nuclear weapon. it's unclear how russia has responded to this but iran is hedging its bets in the event that a deal does not happen and it needs to reconstitute its
nuclear program quickly. and iran is worried that a future administration will pull out of a deal if one is make like the trump administration did. >> what are the white house officials saying about this. it wasn't long ago they said they were weeks away from reaching a deal with iran on the nuclear program. now they say it's nowhere in sight. >> right. this is not on the agenda, because of iran's brutal suppression of protests, of its help for russia in ukraine selling them hundreds of drones to use there. their reaction is our nuclear deal is very far-off. it's unclear at this point how they're going to work with iran to prevent this cooperation with russia from moving forward. we have a quote from the national security council spokesperson, adrienne watson who told me, we have been growing with -- we have been working with partners to expose the growing ties between iran and russia and hold them
accountable. we will be firm in countering any cooperation in opposition to our goals. likely more sanctions are in the works but this is part of a growing iran, russia cooperation here in the broader geopolitical space. >> iran has been helping russia, we'll see if russia does the same. this morning ukraine's president said some 4.5 million people in the country have been hit by power outages after a barrage of russian strikes. in the capital, the mayor says nearly half a million homes have no electricity, raising fears of a dark winter with no heat. we want to get to christiane amanpour live for us in kyiv, ukraine. this is devastating. we've both been there, you're there now. it gets cold. what are you seeing on the ground? >> reporter: it's chilly already and we are seeing people getting more and more fearful about what
an increasingly dark and cold winter might mean if, as you just have been reporting, this collaboration between russia and iran, in other words the drones that iran is providing russia with, the missiles that russia is using against this and other cities, against the energy infrastructure. if that continues at pace, it's going to be very, very hard for the people here. we were in a home last night where we just arrived a few minutes before electricity went on. they had been without it for nine hours, one woman has a baby. they have to figure out how to cook. they're buying gas stoves to heat food for the baby. the new weapons for this phase of the war are things like power packs for their phones to charge, oil lamps, things like using water bottles literally to diffuse light through the torch of an iphone. just like we're seeing behind which is the reclaimed and
destroyed russian tanks to highlight the ukrainian progress and defiance against russia. their new weapons are as i just described to try to defend an attack on civilian infrastructure they hope doesn't get worse throughout the winter. >> there is a big question mark about especially if republicans take over one or both chambers in the midterms what financial support for ukraine will look like going forward from the u.s. you are there you spoke to two senators, a republican and a democrat, they're on this trip, what did they tell you? >> reporter: the first question was is there any change in america's full-throated support for this country if there's a shift in the balance of power after the midterms. you heard what some republicans have said about whether or not they, quote, continue with a blank check, those were the words of the minority leader in congress. i was speaking to those senior senators who met with president
zelenskyy and came out again with a very robust defense of their vital for u.s. national security as well as for the ukrainians support for this effort. here's what they told me. >> this is not the time for us to back off. it's a time for us to redouble our efforts. because the ukrainians have shown through their courage, bravery, they are making progress, it's because of that, out of desperation that vladimir putin is doing what we see behind us here tonight. he can't win on the battlefield so instead he's turning to attacks on the civilian population. >> i think the overwhelming bipartisan majority of members of congress respect the ukrainians have fought fiercely, bravely, americans have stood for freedom at home and abroad for decades and decades. i find it hard to believe we would abandon the ukrainian people right now as they are facing in some ways the most challenging test of this war. >> reporter: and during that conversation you could see the
blackout behind us. this was last night we spoke. now these two senators and their delegation are in the hague in the netherlands, where they are pushing the case for a special tribunal to try russian war crimes. alleged russian war crimes under -- it's called the crime of aggression, that's what they're aiming for and doing in the hague today after their visit to kyiv. back to you. >> christiane amanpour on the ground for us. thank you for the reporting. ahead, california governor gavin newsom democrat has tough love for democrats. what he's saying about his party's chances in the midterms. plus. >> in pennsylvania there were 1.8 million mail in ballots went out, 2.5 million come back. there's a, hello, question maybe. >> are you sure about that? >> yeah, sure. >> can we google it? >> i wouldn't. >> you don't -- >> it's everywhere. >> election deniers in 2020 turned poll watchers in 2022.
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we are in the final stretch, election day just four days away. early voting is way up this year across the country. and so far, democrats have sent in more ballots than republicans but california governor gavin newsom not optimistic about his own party's chances. listen to this. >> does it feel like a red wave? >> yeah, of course it does. and again, i'm not paid to say that. i'm paid to say -- we're getting crushed on narrative. we're going to have to do better in terms of getting on the offense and stop being on the
defense. >> let's talk about that. frank luntz is here. is gavin newsom right? >> i try to be careful about projections because you have the tape and you'll play it at 2:00 a.m. >> we would never do that to you. >> of course you would do that to me. but every week i raise the republican projections for the house and for the first time i now think that it is 51/49 that it will be 51/49 in the senate for the republicans. that as the economy takes center stage and particularly affordability. not inflation, affordability. that helps the republicans and as abortion and the focus on donald trump recedes, republicans do better and better. >> where is the majority coming from? : it comes from two out of three states between pennsylvania, georgia and the state we never talk about, nevada. republicans have to win two out of those three, i believe they will.
the important story is what happens on the day after and the day after that. i'm afraid of the vote counting. and i wanted to be here with you all to alert your viewers that in pennsylvania, which i believe is ground zero, philadelphia, for what's going to be a crap show, they count ballots so slowly and the first ballots that are counted are from the machine and then only later on, hours later, do they start to count the paper ballots. >> so day of versus early voting. >> exactly. and day off helps the republicans, and early voting helps the democrats. and you'll have people saying the vote was stolen again. because you have republicans leading -- >> red mirage. >> exactly. >> it is quite possible that dr. oz wins. i'd say the odds are right on the line, 51/49 he wins. but he's going to have a lead at
midnight -- >> it's going to shrink. >> right. >> and people are going to say the ballots were under the table, they're stuffing. >> and we have to hold people accountable. there's the other side. which is voter suppression. people who want to vote can vote, their voices can be heard. i'm saying to republicans, back off on corruption. i say to the democrats, back off on suppression. and let's hold this election and stop tearing the country apart. >> it's hard to say back off on suppression when there were people who traditionally, with evidence, edged out of the voting process. i think we should be allowing people to vote as early and as often -- >> we are. i agree with you. we are. in georgia -- >> we're not. hang on. >> fridays, saturdays, sundays. >> we're not when you're limiting the number of ballots boxes, the number of hours,
days. i think it should be a day off for -- >> everybody. >> -- people to be able to vote. it doesn't mean that because a lot of people are voting it doesn't mean there aren't people who aren't taking advantage of suppress sieve tactics. i i understand there are a lot of people voting, but -- >> not but. >> both can be possible at the same time, it's not one or the other. >> you ask europeans, south americans, nobody gets to vote like we do. we have the most open system. >> it doesn't mean it can't be improved. >> exactly. doesn't mean it can't be better here. >> in georgia there was a lot of criticism they got from stacey abrams -- >> and she lost her court case. >> yes. >> and as governor kemp pointed out there has been record turn out in the state. election officials that people relied on so much after trump was fighting to overturn the results, said voter suppression was just as much of a lie as the
steal. >> all i'm saying is, as we continue to cast apersians at our electoral system we're doing ourselves damage. >> that's true. >> young people do not baelieve democracy is working. >> that doesn't mean we can't talk about and find ways to improve. speaking of these people voting, more than 30 million people across 46 states that have already voted. my question is are we underestimating the early vote count whether it's democrats or republicans. usually it favors democrats but maybe republicans learned their lesson. >> the governor of florida who may be a presidential candidate, is challenging trump, trump says vote on election day only. desantis is saying vote early. >> and trump's campaign aides
were pulling their hair out. they wanted people to early vote. we want that, and trump was telling people, don't early vote, don't trust it. >> can we talk about oprah's endor endorsement? >> yes. >> dr. oz doesn't get a car. >> dr. oz doesn't need a car from oprah or another house. i would like to ask you, everyone says this is big from fetterman, remember a month ago, the statement from the oprah camp was we're not getting involved here. now she said if i live in pennsylvania i would have already voted for fetterman for many reasons. good for him? >> not necessarily. i know her. she's wonderful. and her commitment to the community, to making a difference, we need more people like that. >> i know where you're going with this -- >> she's seen as an elitist in hollywood. and they may turn people off in
pennsylvania, is that what you're saying? >> in the places she could make the greatest difference her voice doesn't carry weight. >> but oprah came from nothing, she's self-made. a self-made person who made dr. oz into a celebrity. dr. oz was a neurosurgeon, i believe. >> by the way, i owe him. i don't know if i want to talk about this on air in the morning. i had a stroke on the 10th of january, 2020. so i understand what he's going through. and i don't always speak as well as i should. sometimes i lose my thinking. thank you for the energy drink this morning, that helps me a lot. >> any time. >> it's an issue of empathy. and in the end what's more important was the debate itself. the debate where people looked at the camera, they looked in him, listened to him, and they thought this is a good man. but maybe he's not ready to be a united states senator in a tough state, in a tough year, in a
tough institution. what they want is someone who can be their voice. we've been asking this question. they want someone who can get results and be their voice. it's why i'm thinking that when all the votes are counted -- i did not believe this last week -- that's why i'm thinking dr. oz may emerge victorious. having an outsider like oprah. we saw it with hillary clinton. she went into the same state in 2016, campaigning very much for -- he was for hillary clinton. it actually had a negative impact. we are looking for people who look like us, who talk like us. >> i think you're right. there's one part of your argument i'm not sure about. i don't know if they'll see oprah as an outsider, maybe see her as an elitist i see that. but they always see dr. oz as an elitist because he doesn't live in pennsylvania, he lives in new jersey. >> there's the music, i know the
segment is over. >> speaking of frank luntz, ps psych psychedelics. >> you know my history. >> it could be the next run to drug legalization. a new report to americans turning to magic mushrooms as medicine. people are fed up, seats on airplanes are they too small and what is the faa going to do about it? >> frank, what a great discussion. >> thank you, friend. >> that was really great. (vo) whwhat can a nationwide 5g netwk from t-mobile for business do for your business? unlock new insights and efficiency-right now. with next-generation bandwidth.y at remote job sites, enable ai cames that spot factory issues in real time, using next-generation speed. and deliver ultra-capacity 5g
so we just started this conversation this week about the potential benefits of magic mushrooms and it just so happens that psychedelics are set to become legal in oregon at the start of next year. but next week's election might change that. so joining us now david culver. david, good morning. what is happening here? >> reporter: hey, don. good morning to you. it's important to see what's happening with psychedelics in oregon because similar efforts
are popping up across the country. you might wonder if oregon residents voted in 2020 to legalize magic mushrooms, then what's changed? there's this uneasiness growing for some in the state that the state regulators may not be ready to control safely this mind altering substance. on the nearly 1,000 new frontier ranch in southern oregon mike arnold wants to explore uncharted territory. >> this will literally save people's lives because psychedelics works. >> he's talking about magic mushrooms has people know them. >> i have to get this in the hands of people suffering as quickly as possible. >> reporter: but to do that they had to go where it's legal, they chose jamaica with medical professionals on sight, they
ingest the drug, medicine as they prefer. >> it was in a powder form. >> are you nervous? >> yes. >> reporter: chrissy said she turned to the drug to help her grieve the loss of her sister and a recent breakup. i was feeling lost and hopeless. >> so in june she traveled to jamaica for a retreat. she said she remembers every detail from her altered state but like many struggles to convey the experience through words. >> it was almost like i could see the life within everything around me. it sounds weird but it's like feel what it really is like to feel alive. >> reporter: do you start to revisit some of the loss and pain? >> there definitely was a lot of processing and healing that i was able to do during the ceremony and especially afterwards too. >> reporter: arnold wants to bring the same retreat ceremony as he calls it to the united
states, beginning in oregon at licensed service centers to be taken under strict super vision. opening a potentially billion dollar industry. folks like jason lampman a dad of three toddlers willing to spend $50,000 to undergo the training and licensing and build the infrastructure required for approval. >> i want to do it here. my family is here, our other businesses are here. >> reporter: he plans to host people for a few hours. >> over here we would have something like a yurt. >> reporter: as they experience a mind altering journey. >> reporter: is it safe for the kids? >> there's a winery there. people can drink as much as they want and drive down the road. >> reporter: it's something that's happening way out west in places like oregon but other states across the country are also exploring this new
frontier. colorado likely to put legalizing psychedelics to a state vote. new jersey and washington reducing penalties for possession. many other states considering their own legislation. for centuries psychedelics have been used by traditional cultures. >> america's public enemy number one. >> reporter: but in the '70s with the war on drugs they were criminalized in the u.s. today the medical community is studying it to treat ptsd, anxiety, depression, and curb alcohol use. but a recent headline made concerns of erratic behavior. >> we want to say no, we want to opt out for a while. >> reporter: more than a hundred counties and cities may be pushing back. mayor porter one of many allowing voters to ban businesses locally.
>> do you feel like the community needs protecting from this measure? >> yes. >> why? >> i don't know what it does. i don't know how it will be controlled. i don't know how to keep kids away from it. i guess it's -- the fear of things we don't understand. >> reporter: a similar concern echoed back in southern oregon near new frontier ranch. it's here the legalization of cannabis was messy in 2015. legalizing a new drug not going over well here. >> oh, boy. you got that right. >> reporter: maryanne lives next to the ranch. she's open to the potential therapeutic benefits but worries about the impact. >> we have a very unique community and we want to keep it that way. >> reporter: arnold sees it as a vital service that's more medicinal than recreational. >> there are people suffering right now that get the peace
they need to make it through another season, another day, they learn they have value and they're special and love and are lovable. >> reporter: much like cannabis which today feels so main stream and is legalized in an increasing number of states, this could prove a road map for the rest of the u.s., if it's done right providing for what those advocates argue will be a safe and regulated structure. we'll see. >> you're so right about that with the comparison to marijuana. now i walk around cities around the country and smell more marijuana than i do cigarettes. >> right. if you think plane seats are too small. changes are coming. are they going to get smaller? who knows. that's next. >> that would be my bed. . >> that would be my bet. ♪
the endless debate, how much smaller can airplane seats get? americans fete up with tiny seats so thousands flooded the faa with complaints hoping they'll do something to fix this. can they do this and fit three seats on either side on a lot of these planes and be within regulation? >> reporter: we'll see. there is no rule against it, poppy. seeing as though airlines keep shrinking seats, more people equals more profit. but what's interesting is now the faa is looking at this strictly from a safety issue. passengers tell us, at least it's a start. luxury is what flying was supposed to be. but these days, leg room is shrinking. as passengers are getting larger. >> things are definitely getting too small on planes.
>> we're dying. it doesn't matter what airline it is. >> i can't imagine seats or aisles being smaller than they are today. >> now the federal aviation administration is considering whether to stop airlines from making seats smaller. >> evacuate, evacuate. leave everything. come this way. >> reporter: the agency is under a congressional mandate to study whether a seat size could slow an evacuation. but in 26,000 public comments many focused on comfort. >> the idea is the more people you can jam into a plane, the more money you make. >> reporter: airlines are trying to squeeze out more profit. this week six u.s. senators are telling the faa to act youurgen and not wait for seats to get smaller. so i decided to put airlines to the test. on this united airlines flight. leg room was at the industry
standard, 30 inches. but it all depends on the airline. leg room can get tighter on ultra low cost carriers. 27 inches is what we saw on this allegiant flight. so they're looking for dimensions that would fit 90% of americans. in its comments to the faa, the airline's top lobby said it would not compromise on safety but told the government to stay out of regulating passenger comfort. the faa and department of transportation declined our interview request. >> their position to date has been how uncomfortable you are is between you and the air carrier. >> reporter: one airline is making some changes to its leg room. you might be surprised to learn that spirit is ordering new planes that allow for an extra two inches of leg room. we will see if the faa acts on
this issue in total. remember, this is not going to happen any time soon. more seats on a plane equals more money for the airline, but less seats and more room for you might make your ticket more expensive. >> there you go. the never ending debate on seat size. >> 2 inches how generous of spirit airlines. they'll probably charge you for the two inches. >> tired of all these seats on the you know what plane. we have new cnn reporting on what the justice department may do about the sprawling investigations into former president trump if he runs again. new this morning we are getting word of south korea scrambling jets after a new provocation by north korea.
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