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this is cnn newsroom with rosemary church! >> hello and welcome to our viewers here in the united states, and all around the world. i am rosemary church, and this is cnn newsroom. we are following two major stories this hour, a russian -made missile has killed two people in poland. prompting an emergency meeting of world leaders at the g20 summit in indonesia. russia denies that it fired the projectile, but this could be a significant turning point in the war in ukraine. plus, donald trump wants to return to the white house. america first? drain the swamp, build the wall. we will have the latest on his newly announced 2024 candidacy. >> ladies and gentlemen, distinguished guests. and my fellow citizens. america's comeback starts right now! ♪ ♪ ♪
>> we begin with a deadly missile explosion in poland on tuesday afternoon. poland officials said that the missile fell in a village at least six and a half kilometers or four miles west of the border with ukraine. here's what we know, two people were killed in that blast. it's unclear where the missile was fired from, and why it fell on poland. but officials say that it was russian made. russia has denied responsibility, and said it had no targets in the area. an investigation is already underway, poland has raised its military alert status, and some of the russian ambassadors have asked for an explanation. it's also invoking nato's article for. which will trigger talks with the alliances decision making body. the deadly blast also set up a storm of diplomatic activity. in the coming hours, nato will
hold an emergency meeting in brussels. u.s. joe biden met with g7 and nato leaders before he left the summit in indonesia. and released a statement offering their full support to poland. and promising to stay in close touch, regarding next steps. mr. biden struck a cautious tone while speaking with reporters. take a listen. >> we're gonna make sure that we figure out exactly what happened. it's unlikely in the minds of the trajectory. that it was fired from russia. but we will see. >> and we've got reporters stationed around the globe. covering all the angles. right house reporter kevin liptak is in bali, indonesia. and nina dos santos joins us live from london. welcome to you both. kevin, we'll start with you, president biden has been holding emergency leaders with world leaders on this russian-made missile falling on
nato ally, poland. what have you learned about what his commanders have talked about so far? >> well the most urgent task for the president, for these world leaders tonight is to try to figure out where this missile came from. because poland is a member of nato, because of that article five collective defense treaty, the implications are extremely high. we do know that the middle ambassadors are meeting later today on what is known as article for. that is a collective conference, collective talking about what might come next but certainly these leaders will want to figure out very quickly what happened here. and you did hear president biden come out of these talks that he was holding on the sidelines of the gs 20 summiteer in bali, and he was very cautious about what he said. he said he didn't want to say anything definitive before all of the evidence came in but he said it was unlikely that this missile would've been fired from russia.
and we do know that both russia and ukraine use russian-made munitions as this war has proceeded. so this will be something that the president is looking at as he's flying back to washington. he just got on his plane. it's just a 24-hour flight back home. and he did see with the polish president earlier today. the secretary of state. the national security adviser all sort of convening around the president as he was talking to the president to try to determine some of the facts on the ground there. he also spoke to the nato secretary general, ian stoltenberg, trying to sort of arrange what the message will be. to make sure that they are on the same page. so the president, as he leaves this g20 summit, he will feel fairly good about where things stand when it comes to the war in ukraine in the war in russia, the leaders of put on a statement saying that, but
obviously this is a major wrinkle the that the president will be dealing with in the days and hours ahead. rosemary? >> russia is denying its fired its missile into poland, what is the latest on russia's reaction. >> this is the latest alison, the russian federation presented to the united nations. essentially as it reiterated moscow's denial of having any involvement in the missile incident in polls polish territory. and the russian representative to the u.s. said earlier in the statement that this was an attempt to provoke a direct military clash between nato and russia. and it also made it clear that this is likely to dominate and certainly be built up by russia as well at the security council meeting taking place later on today. but before that new security council meeting took place, in a few hours from now, we're gonna have the meeting that will take place in brussels where the members of nato, that
kevin was talking about, collectively meeting to discuss where to proceed from here, and the gravity. the potential and hypothetical gravity of the situation. but also the fact that as the dutch prime minister pointed out early on. none of it would've happened if there wasn't an invasion of ukraine in the first place. so, the confusion, as kevin was saying, rises largely because those are post-soviet states, both ukraine and russia use the missiles in particular. and the missile defense system. and the question is whether or not this might have been a missile that have drifted over the border into nato territory. that will be the type of thing that they will be discussing. what might help firm up exactly where this came from. and by the way you heard it was just reported that earlier indications appear it may not have come from russia. but indeed from ukraine. but he was cautious in his language, and said that the
caveat was, nato seems to be monitoring this, and ukraine was hit by a barrage of missiles yesterday. so you have some intelligence on where these missiles came from, but they have to be clear on exactly what they. now rosemary? >> all right, kevin liptak, nina dos santos. great thanks to you both. appreciate it. just ahead in the show, and about 15 minutes in fact. i will speak with an adviser to ukraine's minister of defense. so keep it right here on cnn! >> donald trump is hoping to pull off a political comeback. it's only been done once before in u.s. history. running non consecutive terms as president. trump announced his 2024 white house bid tuesday night in florida. he railed against president joe biden and the quote, radical democrats braving them for a
crime, inflation, the war and ukraine and a host of other problems. in true trumpian fashion, he promised he would fix it. >> you can't stay quiet any longer. you are angry about what is happening to our country. our country is being destroyed before your very eyes. this will not be my campaign! this will be our campaign. altogether. >> joining me now, from los angeles, democratic strategist and occidental college professor, caroline hillman. and from washington, cnn political commentator and former congressman, charlie dent. good to see you both. >> thank you. >> the story of course, donald trump announce-ing a very early bid for president of 2024. his third attempt. and it comes after his big losses in the midterm election. and when republicans, and party donors are pointing the finger of blame at trump for the gop's
vegas abysmal showing. kelly, what will likely happen now with florida governor ron desantis, and mike pence of course. and waiting in the wings with others? >> i think most republicans are very upset about the presidents announcement because there's a georgia runoff that many feels will not help the candidacy of herschel walker in georgia. the runoff will become much more about donald trump and that's a big problem. but the other issue is i think donald trump is trying to re-condition the field for 2024. by jumping and now, he is essentially issuing a challenge to his would-be challengers. mike pence, ron desantis, chris christie, governor hogan and others who might jump in. you know, trump in. and frankly i think donald trump would be hurt if he jumped into the race. because a with a barrage, it would help donald trump gain a
plurality in the nomination process. so i think he's dropping the gauntlet. he wants it, even though he's a diminished victor. his stars setting not rising. and he is certainly taking a lot of the blame for republican [inaudible] in last week's election. as he should be. given the fact that he made the election about himself. and that unhelpfully intervened in so many of the primaries. nominating help, and nominating candidates who are unfit. and to significant republican losses. so, we'll see how those others react. but i think some voters, would be challengers, won't jump into the race. because they're in there as a viable figure in the strong races. >> interesting, and caroline, trump's announcement is a gift for democrats. but they won't be so happy if and when ron desantis enters the field. how big of a threat is he to joe biden? and will trump overcome the new
interest that the gop has now in run desantis? >> well, i think the primary will weaken ron desantis because donald trump is still the most popular member of the party. although some, early republican polls are finding that ron desantis bests trump in some of the primaries. it's too far out for us to know everything. and why are we talking about this two years before a presidential election? it's resaw staying? but i do imagine that donald trump will inspire what he inspired in 2020, which is historic voter turnout. it was the highest turnout in this century, the highest turnout since the 1960s. nearly two thirds of voters turned out to vote. and that's about a ten point bump over typical presidential elections. and people were not voting for joe biden, he's fine, he doesn't really it's inspire democrats to go to the polls. people were turning out to vote against donald trump. so if trump is a nominee, i expect high turnout. and if he is not the nominee,
that i will expect that desantis will be pretty bloody by the end of the primary battle. >> in the meantime, the gop surprise losses in the midterms. particularly in the senate, have triggered leadership wars within the party. with the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell coming under threat from rick scott. what will likely be the outcome of that leadership fight? do you think charlie? >> well, the side is littered with carcasses of people who have underestimated mitch mcconnell, yes there appears to be a bit of a challenge for mitch mcconnell. it clearly appears that mitch mcconnell has more than enough to be the republican leader in the senate. i know some of them are trying to say, some of his challengers are trying to suggest that somehow the problem was with republicans in the senate who had an a but with the midterm election. they are with the party in
power, the president, but the party in power. it's not so much about the agenda but the party out of power. and some of the folks that are challenging mcconnell right now by trying to deflect blame by trump themselves. because they were too close to the election denial movement, just too close to too much of the excess of donald trump. and supportive of too many of these candidates that the american people rejected. because they are seen as too extreme. the republicans lost the election. not because of mitch mcconnell. but because of the dobbs decision. donald trump's on handful interventions into these primary contests that nominees and other -- election denialism and the looking back of 2020. so plenty of reasons why republicans lost. i think those will be the biggest reasons. and of course the dobbs decision on abortion. >> and caroline, we are used to seeing disunity with tween the democratic party.
but now it's the republicans battling for the presidency, to leadership squabbles in the house. what do you think will likely happen to the calculating mitch mcconnell? and also, because i think you have the last question here to answer, let's talk about kevin mccarthy. because while he will have the votes for now, and will likely take the speakership vote in the house. he will restore the heat with that razor thin majority? >> it's not a job that i would want. kevin mccarthy has his work cut out for him. as you point out rosemary, he will have a very slim majority in the house. and while getting that majority, will need to run the board in terms of bipartisanship. in terms of what committees will be set up, and we'll see a lot of investigation into hunter biden and. the art school investigations. which the republicans and sometimes democrats. we'll see a lot of that. but what you also see is cam
and mccarthy trying to -- the party, the freedom caucus and others, because he houses so little leeway. because he won't have much of a majority. and he also has to pitch to the center. he has to keep everyone happy. that is an impossible job. and it is one that he may not hold in january. because he actually needs to garner 218, sorry yes, 218 votes. not 288. he has now. once they get back to the session, he needs everyone together. and that's along the lines of what he's already done. which is gone ahead with his hat and his hand and going and apologizing to folks who he was critical of because of january six. so not a fun job for kevin mccarthy moving forward. >> we're watching very carefully. caroline and charlie dent, many thanks for the analysis. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> three, two, one.
boosters. and lift off of artemis one! we rise together! back to the moon, and beyond! >> the third time is the charm. the artemis 1 moon rocket blasted off just a short time ago, for a 26-day mission. despite some delays earlier doing to technical issues. it's now the most popular one ever to reach earth's orbit. after the first launch attempts were scrubbed in august and september. late tuesday, the team had to address an issue tied to a crucial radar system. they also have to fix another liquid hydrogen leak. and this first phase of the artemis mission is unmanned test flight. and the ultimate goal, is to return astronauts to the moon. and someday send humans to mars. we'll have more on the historic mission later this hour. in a live report! >> and a day of destruction across ukraine, as dozens of
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says that there is total unanimity about the g7 nato leaders to investigate the missile that killed two people in poland on tuesday. polish officials say that it was russian made. but it is still unclear who fired it. and where it was fired from. the mis-c landed about six and a half kilometers, or four miles left of the ukraine border. and they tell cnn that a nato aircraft flying in polish airspace tracked the missile. the polish president says his country is trying to determine who is responsible. meanwhile, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy is urging nato leaders to take action. >> [interpreter] hitting nato territory with missiles is a russian strike against collective security. this is a very significant escalation. we have to act.
>> i'm joined now by usually psaki, and advisor to the ukrainian defense minister and joins me live from kyiv. thank you sir for talking with us. >> thank you for inviting me rosemary. >> first critical message to you, was a russian filed missile or ukrainian defense missile? >> like you said in your early report, at this stage it is very important to be very cautious with -- and of course, since this intra than. this tragic incident. that happened on the property of poland. our partner, poland, so we have to wait for the final conclusions of that investigation. and of course we understand that we welcome a thorough investigation of these incidents. but what we have to understand is that yesterday was the largest missile attack on our country since the beginning of
this live scale invasion, almost 100 missiles were fired in ukraine, many of people have been left without electricity. so this is an important thing that happened yesterday, and neither this massive missile attack. nor the tragic incident in poland would have happened, you know, if this war was not going on. if they had not invaded our country. if ukrainians had gone to a close. and we were trying to close our skies for a long time now. and we've been talking about this almost on a daily basis. and actually,, today there will be a long-standing meeting of the ministers of defense of over 50 countries. and we believe, and that we almost conquer them. the air defense capabilities of ukraine will continue to be a top priority for us, and for our international partners. >> of course, this missile landing in poland brings this war to a critical juncture. we do have to emphasize that.
poland has confirmed that this missile was russian made. but the problem with that of course, is that ukraine, your country, also uses russian made missiles. so how possible is it that this was a ukrainian missile, or perhaps a russian missile intercepted by ukraine, that was propelled by that interception into polish territory? >> i'd like to stretch two things in this. now, number one, yesterday, night as we woke up today. we've had reports that yesterday night, russia has launched six s-300 missiles at the city of kharkiv. the second largest city in ukraine. and we know that for some time now, russia, because of its running out of ballistic missiles. have been using these circus missiles to target ground targets. that's not berwyn. number, two i would like to
stress as well that sometime in august, when there was a real threat that russians would attack, or of course some provocation on the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. some uk, as well as u.s. politicians and congressman had said back then that if russia conducted an attack on the the preacher nuclear power plant, then it would be interpreted by nato, even though it would be in ukraine, but because of the contamination. because of the threat of the radiation, possible spread of the radiation to european countries. this could be interpreted as an article five, or nato. >> right let's go back. >> yes, i totally understand. that let's go back to this issue that we're dealing with. because the united states and its allies, are holding these emergency meetings. in response to this russian -made missile. formerly inside the borders of nato ally poland. president biden said they need
to find out exactly what happened. before taking next steps. do you appreciate and understand this need for an extreme level of caution, given the consequences of this. that it could be immense? >> well of course we understand that. i would like to repeat that yesterday we had the feeling that ukraine welcomes an and mastication, and we know that the u.s. will help pull to establish what we have. but we have been seeing it for a long time. and this is, we've been saying that russian attacks in ukraine always have ramifications on other european countries whether we are talking about energy security, whether we're talking about nuclear blackmail or food security. >> all right, yuri, thank you so much. for joining us. we do appreciate it. >> thank you. thank you. >> all right, time for a short break. when we come back, donald trump
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consecutive terms since walter cleveland in 1922. trump says that president biden and the quote unquote, rival democrats, have turned -- open the borders for immigrants in drugs, allowed russia to invade ukraine and stood by way inflation has spiraled out of control. president biden tweeted donald trump failed america and even a number of republicans are expressing doubt about trump's new white house bid. >> we need, as a party, to move past president trump. >> trump is dragging the party down. he's >> cost us the last three elections and i don't want to see it happen a four time. >> michael genovese, is president of the global policy institute at loyal mount university, he joins us now from los angeles. great to have you with us. >> good to be with you rosemary. >> so what's your reaction to donald trump announcing a third
bid for president so early in the game? and in the wake of his massive midterm losses with many in his own party questioning his credibility? >> well, you know, the initial part of the speech was very true. the teleprompter, don, drab, dull. about 30 minutes into the speech. he started to find his stride again, the old donald trump, the perpetual motion machine. category five storm. full agreements, and resentments, and self pity. he said i'm a victim, add another part he said i've been persecuted. but there were a couple of things that may have gone unnoticed, that may be important. one is, i didn't notice any republican party leaders in the crowd tonight. quite significant. second thing is that fox news cut the trump feed, midway through the speech. and third, rupert murdoch has been making noises about abandoning trump and moving toward desantis.
if that is also powerfully true, donald trump has some thunderstorms on the horizon. >> interesting, and of course the republican party experiencing chaos in turmoil in the midst of its midterm losses in the senate, and that has triggered a leadership challenge from rick scott, to mitch mcconnell. how likely is it that we'll see the end of his long leadership in the senate? or do you think he will hold firm? , >> don't underestimate mitch mcconnell's staying power. he is a master politician. and has a tremendous amount of school and maneuvering parliament and procedure. he's in great shape. the challenge is a part of fund-raise, a statement, and mccarthy's in the house. they both seem to have the votes right now, there are not sporting for a fight and i think even the right-wing house wants to get a fight going. leaving them both pretty safe.
the problem with mccarthy, you keep hearing the metaphor used, you know, it's like herding cats, it's not like herding cats. it's more like herding scorpions in a tornado. the right wing of the republican party in the house is going to cause mccarthy trouble beyond words. and so, what his dream job is right now, might turn into a nightmare very quickly. >> what deals do you think he will need to make with the pro trump mob that are really basically saying they're holding out and giving him support when he needs it in january for the speakership? what do you think he will have to give up for that? >> they're trying to hold him hostage to a couple of things, one, investigations, investigations, investigations into hunter biden, into the afghanistan pull out, into anything that biden has done, they also might want to force mccarthy to allow for the
impeachment of joe biden, that is a big ticket item and you really need to have reason to do that, the right-winger republican party, the new caucus as it's called. just want to go out and do it. and so, the question is, will mccarthy be able to hold back some of that rhetoric, and some of the more extreme views? he may not be in a position i have the strength to do that. >> and finally michael, where do you think this leaves the democrats because not many people predicted that they would retain the senate and actually survive in the house, when they haven't done as badly as what people thought they might do? >> right, even the good news with the democrats also has that news and it, the good news of course is that they maintain control of the senate and they are pretty tight in the house. the bad news is that they lost the house. but, as the attention focuses more on donald trump right now. the question is do the democrats fear or welcome donald trump?
my guess is that right now they are jumping at the bit to have donald trump become the face, the voice, and the centerpiece of the republican party. they think they do very well against donald trump. i think they fear him much more than they feared desantis. and some of the other alternatives. >> yeah, it's work for them so far. michael genovese, great pleasure to have you with us. as always. >> thank you rosemary. >> cnn's calling several more races for the u.s. house of representatives. projecting democrats will hold two more seats in california. and pick one up in new mexico. while republicans hold to in california and kicked one up in arizona. that means that as of now, republicans are just one seat away from taking control of the chamber. and so we'll keep a very close eye on, that very precarious as you can see. in that chart. all right, to the moon and beyond, but with technical glitches in weeks of delay, is
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built. the first phase of the mission is an unmanned test flight, and the ultimate goal is to return astronauts to the moon, and someday send humans to mars. and i'm joined now by cnn defense correspondent, kristen fisher, who is at the kennedy space center, great to see you. and you're not far from where the artemis launched last time, we have actually had video of the moment that it launched. and your reaction is priceless. so we just want to bring that up for a moment. >> okay. [applause] [applause] >> i mean, what were you thinking of as you watch that? , >> my first time seeing that in fall. you know? rosemary i had nothing to do with this launch. i can only imagine what the people who actually contributed
to the mission must be feeling right now but, you know, i'm a space journalist, i cover this, i was here for the last space shuttle launch. and it was really a sad moment at the kennedy space center, and all the people with ties to the face center, at the florida coast, and that was more than a decade ago and a lot of people weren't sure that this rocket was ever going to get off the launchpad. so i, honestly, in that moment just couldn't believe what i was seeing because we have had so many delays, rosemary. i couldn't believe that it was actually launching. >> yeah, it was so clear how you felt, and i'm sure everyone else there as well, but now after the successful launch. are you learning everything about the process so far? >> so far, everything looks really good, we are on track for a post-lunch press conference with nasa, happening at 5 am eastern time, but rosemary everything is looking really good right now and we have passed almost critical initial test for the sls rocket.
and the orion council who sits on top. so now and over the next several days, it's gonna take about six days before the orion spacecraft is making, or is able to make its closest approach to the moon. and it's gonna get really close. it's gonna get just 60 miles roughly off the lunar surface. what's so neat about that is we are gonna be getting live pictures leading back to earth. and of course, you know, we have sent probes. and rovers. and uncrewed spacecraft to the moon since the apollo days. but what is different is that this spacecraft is designed to carry humans, and if this mission, artemis one is a success, artemis two will be just that. >> all right, christian fisher, thanks so much for your report. and of course your enthralling reaction there, appreciate it! >> and daniel don bakker is the executive director of the american institute of aeronautics and astronautics. with us now from sacramento.
i do hope that i pronounce your name correctly sir. thank you so much for being with us. >> oh, quite my pleasure. glad to be here. >> and of course, as we've been reporting it was nassar's third attempt launching the artemis 1 loan walk it after some technical issues, what was your reaction when you saw the launch? >> well, my reaction tonight was probably like everybody else's. it was first, paying close attention to the first eight minutes to make sure that we got all the way through the main incident cut off, and get the cord separated like we needed to, and then just frankly, like i won the super bowl, or like i won this ncaa basketball championship. it was quite a celebration! >> yeah, just amazing. and of course the images are just extraordinary, aren't, they so why so many issues about getting to this point? the team having to fix another liquid hydrogen leak and there was a radar signal problem? >> well, the systems, you have
millions of different parts that all have to work perfectly at just the right time and every new launch system always has these kinds of experiences to go through, we had these with apollo we, had these with gemini. we have them with shuttle. and so now we have the first one under our belts, and the mission is off to a great start, with the perigee race burn, i believe just getting completed so looking good. >> so what i'll will this move rocket achieve and how significant will this be do you think? >> this is extremely significant, we have now renegotiated the launch capability that we had back in the apollo days, so, eventually the artemis system, we will be able to take more payload, more hardware to the moon than we did with apollo, so we had
reinitiated this great launch capability that we gave up back in the early 70s, we now have it back and now we can go get back to exploring and help establish that space economy from low earth orbit out to the moon, and extend the human neighborhood. >> and of course, the one long term aim of this mission is to eventually see humans land on mars, how much closer do you think that goal is? >> that goal is achievable, but it's gonna take some time. we need to get to the moon, learn how to live and work on the moon learn how to live and work and operate these missions being so far away, you know a space station where an hour and a half away from home if there is an issue or -- some cases were nine or ten days away from the moon, and when we go to mars, you know, that's 35 million miles away compared to 240,000 so that's going to be a six month one way
trip so we have a lot to learn along the way and will do it one step at a time and in the course of that, we will create the new opportunities, the new economic opportunities for the next generation. >> there you go. those numbers down. pat. thank you so much. daniel dumbacher thank you so much for speaking with me. >> my pleasure, thank you very much. >> absolutely! we'll be right back. stay with us! (snorting) if you struggle with cpap... (groan) (growling) (chuckle) ...you should check out inspire. no m mask. no hose. just sleep. (beeping) learn more and view important safety informamation at inspiresleep.com.
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jury. prosecutors are investigating whether then president, donald trump and his allies, try to overturn the 2020 election results in georgia. the questioning focused largely on a phone call weeks after the election in which trump allegedly tried to push kemp to convince state lawmakers to overturn joe biden's win in georgia. former trump white house aide cassidy hutchinson is scheduled to offer her testimony before the grand jury on wednesday, with senator lindsey graham said to testify on thursday. and the florida judge has ordered the former national security adviser, michael flynn, must testify before the grand jury. the judge denied plans -- to defer testimony while he appeals the ruling. all right, let's get you up to date now on our top stories this hour. right now, investigators in eastern poland are working to figure out where a missile that
killed two people came from, authorities have said that it was russian made, but they do not know yet whether it was launched by russian forces in ukraine or possibly, as part of ukraine's air defense system. here in the u.s., donald trump has officially announced his plan to run for president in 2024, trump claims that joe biden and the democrats have ruined the country with crime and inflation, and only his america first policies will get things back on track. we will have much more on those stories next hour, i'm rosemary church! i will be back after a short break. just after this! should be your style! plop plop fizz fizz, with alka-seltzer plus cold & flu relief. also try for fizzy fast cough relief!
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