tv Inside Politics With John King CNN November 18, 2022 9:00am-10:00am PST
hello and welcome to "inside politics," i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. passing the torch, nancy pelosi and her two long time deputies are stepping aside. house democrats poised to announce the next generation big three, immediate challenge, countering the republican majority. republicans don't take charge until january, but we are quickly learning their priorities. investigate and subpoena hunter biden is one. try to slash aid to ukraine is another. and next hour the president brings in business and labor leaders to discuss the economy. the white house is encouraged by signs inflation may be easing, but it is sobered for the reality divided government means most biden priorities are dead on arrival in the new congress. up first for us, house democrats and the changing of the guard. today a trifecta of official announcements confirm that, yes, democrats will have a new leadership team when they become the opposition party in january. congressman hakeem jeffries of new york officially launching his bid for democratic leader.
congresswoman katherine clark of massachusetts will seek the number two post in the democratic caucus and california's pete al u lar will run for the number three job. jefferies is 52, clark 59, aguilar 43, they will release the three that are all in their early 80s. speaker pelosi opened the door to this generational shift by announcing this hour yesterday she will step aside after two decades adds the democratic leader. she will stay in congress for now and told reporters i have no intention of being mother-in-law in the kitchen saying my son doesn't like the stuffing that way, this is the way we make it. let's go up to capitol hill and jessica dean. colorful language from nancy pelosi suggesting she will, yes, be a member of congress but will not meddle in the leadership. big news as we get to see the new team. >> reporter: it certainly is, john. the idea of nancy pelosi being a rank and file member is wild. while yesterday was all about
speaker pelosi announcing her plans and this leadership team keeping the focus on her, that's all they wanted to talk about yesterday, today we are getting those announcements from all three of them that they intend to run and hopefully be the new guard, the new democratic leadership for house democrats. nancy pelosi just within the last hour putting out a dear colleague letter really blessing the trio, saying that this is a new day dawning is how she described it. so she is certainly -- they have her backing as they look to the future and hakeem jeffries writing in his letter that his first priority is going to be taking back the majority in 2024 and from there everything will stem. he also said we have to make sure that the perception of the democratic brand matches up with the reality that we do, in fact, authentically share values that unite the heartland, urban america, rural america, suburban america and small town america. this undertaking will not be easy. we must show up early and in
unexpected places. so, again, giving us a little window into how he intends to lead the democratic minority when the new congress is seated in january. john? >> going to be fantastic to watch the new team in place. jessica dean, thank you. with me in study to share their reporting and insights kasie hunt, manu ra gee. hakeem jeffries, the statement is interesting, completely new generation, but still new york, massachusetts and california. he talks about the heartland. there have been a number of younger democrats to say what about us, what about us in the middle of the country. how does this new team reach out to them. >> he doesn't really specify because the brand the democratic party in rural parts of the country has been not good, been under water, this he know they've been struggling there. it's interesting he sees that as an area to reach out.
but the -- it will be interesting to see the transition because he in some ways has a bit of an easier job being in the minority in the house. he doesn't have to corral -- put an agenda together, doesn't have to crowd votes on the floor with a narrow majority which is always very difficult. instead he has to be the opposition party and he can probably afford to cut some of his members loose who may want to vote with republicans on some issues because he knows there is a democratic led senate that can stop any legislation, a democrat in the white house with a veto pen n a lot of ways his job will be easier. since the margin is so narrow they do have a real shot at getting back in the majority which will be their prime goal in the next two years. >> and it appears at least at the moment there will be no opposition to this democratic slate, which is striking in the sense that you've had for years a lot of younger progressives saying we need new leadership, the midwesterners saying -- but it looks like -- eel newel cleaveler said, we want to come cross as mature leaders of the nation.
we don't need screaming or name calling. i think it is to have a democratic caucus not engaged in pettiness and hostility toward each other. they assume -- the democrats are assuming the republicans will be a hot mess, to be kind, probably worse, and they want to come out as we are adults here. >> every one at the table is probably looking at the same tea leaves. it is certainly now a major unraveling moment for the republicans as they're about to take the majority. i think if you know nancy pelosi at all you know that her moves are never deferential by inspiration, they are strategic by inspiration and her decision both the timing of it, the way the message was crafted was meant to ensure not that she would give away control, but that she would maintain control over this transition. putting in place this very deliberate group of three people clearing the path from the steny hoyer side of the equation, making sure that others in their
80s who wanted this job are not going to compete for it, but also to keep the progressives in their lane rather than move controversial progressive activists into that core column of leadership or allow that fight to play out publicly. >> manu said in some ways it might be easier to come up with the opposition, the democrats have the white house, president biden will drive the majority, senate democrats have the majority. general operation nael it is clearly a big change. what about stylistically? >> i think inevitably it will be stylistically different. in no small part because the reality is hakeem jeffries' background is different from nancy pelosi. when i've been talking to democrats on the hill and people who are watching this process closely, including on k street, their big question is how are they going to handle -- again, this is one that they don't have to worry about in the immediate term because they don't control the process, but nancy pelosi was very influential legislatively. yes, she did politics and
publicity and all of that, but behind the scenes, i mean, she was an appropriator, she will take the first chance to remind you that is part of her background. she knew how to even in the minority get some democratic priorities into major legislation and, you know, in the case where the democrats do control the senate, if republicans want to show the country they're getting anything done they may actually need to turn to the house democratic minority. i think that's going to be the biggest question for hakeem jeffries is can he show people that he can meet the moment on substance. >> he will be the first black leader, she was the first woman to lead a party in congress, he will be the first black man to lead a party in congress. not as well known nationally as nancy pelosi. is that an asset or liability in the sense that she was so polarizing, if you were watching ads in the past campaign you saw as much of nancy pelosi as the other democratic candidates. hakeem jeffries has to introduce himself to the country. >> he will. you can very much expect republicans to dry to define him for the country and replace ads targeting nancy pelosi as ads
showing him as the scary leader of the democrats who want to take over and take your rights away and whatnot. i would not be surprised if we see that coming, it does help mr. jefferies that he is a very strong communicator, he has a long history of being able to communicate an effective message on behalf of the democrats in congress. i wouldn't be surprised if he continues that message and makes sure that his message is able to move forward and not the message that republicans want to assign to him and ascribe to him and try to make him into something that he is not. >> that is a key point because jeff jefferies is good on the message, sticks to his talking points. >> can't get him off. >> pelosi is much different. she would talk in paragraphs, he talks in very quick sentences. pelosi, though, knew the inside game of capitol hill better than anybody. you had to work things behind the scenes, keep her caucus together, twist arms, inspire fear.
can jefferies do that? that will be his test. >> nancy pelosi history will record her as an incredibly effective legislator, again, history for her role as a trailblazer. in more recent years she became known for her showdowns with donald trump including right after the democrats won the majority in 2018 she was invited to the white house and this. >> i also know that, you know, nancy is in a situation where it's not easy for her to talk right now and i understand that and i fully understand that. we're going to have a good discussion and we're going to see what happens. >> mr. president -- >> but we have to have -- >> mr. president, please don't characterize the strength that i bring to this meeting as the leader of the house democrats who just won a big victory. >> we knew it -- we knew it anyway, trump does not like powerful women. he is uncomfortable around powerful women and, man, did she enjoy those moments. >> did she ever. you didn't show her putting the sunglasses on walking out of the white house. >> the iconic stair re down and
finger wagging where milley's face looked like it was melting. whatever your politics are, if you are a woman in politics or who writes about politics, you understand that you are talking about an iconic figure here. i will just say looking back at -- because i was here when she was rising up before she became speaker in 2006 republicans realizing, hey, we need to make her our next hillary clinton. she is someone who we can demonize. she was not always that person. she became that person because of her strength and i think with the new leadership trio we will see them define themselves and be defined based on their strength and their impact on american politics. >> she says she doesn't want to meddle or be the grandmother but they can learn a lot from her. republicans could learn a lot from her about how to organize. >> -- mother-in-law. >> i have to go to break. >> up next who is on first in the new republican majority. marjorie taylor greene says she will lead an effort to slash aid to ukraine. and the lawmaker who will become
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we're getting a quick post election look at how house republicans plan to use their new power. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, for example, wants to audit past u.s. military aid to ukraine and she wants to stop any future u.s. support. >> i think the american people and the taxpayers of this country deserve to know why the biden administration and this congress is so interested in funding the protection of ukraine's border and not the protection of our border. >> another clear priority is investigating the president and his family. the top republican on the oversight committee tells cnn, quote, this needs to be called the biden investigation and not the hunter biden investigation. >> there's no plans to subpoena joe biden. there are plans to subpoena hunter biden. >> why, then, would you not
subpoena joe biden if this is all about joe biden? >> well, it's complicated to subpoena a president of the united states. >> our reporters back to discuss. i want to start with marjorie taylor greene in the sense that they think that's a clever line, you know, the united states government is involved in a lot of important things, domestic policy and foreign policy. that is a propaganda gift to vladimir putin, but that wing of the republican party doesn't care. >> this is one of the things that they are going to have to sort out in congress, what to do with ukraine. this has had significant bipartisan support, you see that support waning on the republican side is becoming an issue for the maga wing of the party. clearly these people have quite a bit of influence over the new incoming republican leadership, assuming kevin mccarthy can get the speakership, but that's what they have to deal with now. do they provide more aid in the lame duck session right now where democrats aren't in control of both chambers. it's unclear what the white house wants on that front.
>> is this not proof that the republicans don't have a leadership right now in the sense that even if you believe auditing or cutting ukraine funding, even if you believe that's a priority, there are legitimate reasons to have oversight of hunter biden, we will see if they overstep but there are legitimate questions there. even if you think those should be on your list where is the inflation and education event and the border event, big event first out of the box. instead anybody gets to do what they want because kevin mccarthy needs all their votes so he can't say don't do that today save it until next week. >> i think at some point he's going to have to decide that he needs to lead this more affirmatively than he is right now. i understand the math is complicated for that. to me this is a real contrast between senate republicans and house republicans and it's partly because senate republicans have more experience in foreign policy, have been around longer because it's harder to get elected to the senate because you think about your role in the world more than
you did do in the house. i think it's because partly senators have to run every six years and not every two years. this kind of politics, this is -- this is politics over policy. this is pure self-interest over thinking about the long-term good of the country. they are conflating two very different events here. >> it also divides the party. not all republicans are with -- in fact, i mean -- very many republicans are not with marjorie taylor greene on this ukraine question. if you had told me ten years ago that it was going to be republicans who are arguing that we should send less money to fight the war against vladimir putin i would have told you that you had seven heads. i mean, this is a kind of -- the world is really upside down here and i think it's -- man knew is right, this maga constituency will press for it but i think it creates nor problems for republicans. >> there is the sense that, again, this town needs more oversight of just about everything. there is no -- why shouldn't
congress look at how u.s. government money is spent, why shouldn't congress look at ethics, there are legitimate questions about hunter biden, the biden justice department inherited an investigation from the trump justice department it's ongoing. but if you watch that press conference yesterday they already have their conclusions. they haven't started their investigation yet but they already know the end. that's the part will it be overreach? as opposed to we think there are legitimate questions here, we have had some people come in and give us information, we're not going to talk about it you believe clee because that would be reckless, we're going could confirm and do it. >> they already have their conclusions. they are promising the american people this big smoking gun and as we saw with what happened under president donald trump when he talked about all the scandals and controversy within the fbi and the justice department from all these investigations and it all sort of went away with a whimper without any of the major scandals that the president was promising. so the republicans could be setting themselves up for something very similar where they promise we're going to have this smoking gun not only is hunter biden implicated but president biden was in on this
major scandal and if they don't have the goods, if they are not able to prove that then it's going to look like something that the american people are being taken for a ride and it's going to be hard to bring people along because they're going to ask why should i care about hunter biden when i have my own issues, my own family has issues to deal with, not the biden family. >> there are republicans polling in the focus grouping saying please don't overfocus on this. >> this is the real power, though, of the house majority, it is not passing legislation, that is going to be very hard, even messaging bills will be hard given the narrow margins and the differences between the 30 or so folks in swing districts, who or so folks from very conservative members, they will have a hard time agreeing on stuff, but they have subpoena power. in the house you have unilateral subpoena power unlike the senate you need to have bipartisan support on the committees to issue subpoenas, in the house you can do it by a partisan way. they will move forward and just today jim jordan sending all letters trying to get mayorkas to testify, sending out a letter
to ron klain as well saying they want to talk to a bunch of officials. >> they have subpoena power but they have 218 seats now, there are five races uncalled, the highest they will get is 223, it's more likely they get to 220 or 221. hakeem jeffries says we want to take back the majority. the next election is a presidential election. if republicans want to protect the majority, again, legitimate oversight is needed in this town but is that what they want to do or can anybody convince them not to? >> i think the point you made earlier is the one that applies here is that in a world where kevin mccarthy only has that many votes he has to let all of these various elements of his conference to a certain extent do what they want to do because otherwise they can hold a lot over his head and that is going to potentially -- if these investigations go a certain way and there is a sense of overreach which is often hard to avoid in these kinds of situations that could very much endanger his majority from an
electoral perspective. >> the majority is built on these -- on these republicans who are in plus biden districts. >> right. >> they may not be moderate, some are kind of moderate, some are conservative but got elected to districts that biden won. they know that they are in grave danger of losing those after two years if this becomes a run away train of oversight investigations into the biden family without policy -- >> the margins are so hard for mccarthy. he has the votes to become speaker and that is -- if he does have 222 seats like he expects that means he can only lose four votes and you already have at least two hard no votes on the right, others in the far right are also threatening to vote against him. he has to get there -- there's going to be a lot of maneuvering behind the scenes to get there, but big questions for him, too. >> one way to get there was to not ask these people to wait, even if you believe these legitimate priorities, he certainly did not say please don't or if did he they didn't
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promote his priorities now that he knows republicans will take control of the house in jap. let's get straight to the white house, arlette saenz is there with more. what are we going to hear from the president? >> reporter: it's clear that the economy remains a top concern for american voters and that is why president biden trying to refocus their attention on the economy today. he will be convening business leaders like the heads of companies like ford, kaiser permanente and carrier and some of the top labor unions in this country to seek their input on how to tamper down inflation and also address some of the economic progress that they've seen. the white house is expected to be pointing to some key figures that have shown some moderation if just slight moderation when it comes to inflation. the president is also set to tout some of the measures included in the inflation reduction act set to go into effect this coming year and that includes that $35 cap on insulin for seniors on medicare.
also at the same time while the president will be touting that old initiative you have to keep in mind he is entering that era of divided government where the opportunity to pass any sweeping economic plans will be made much more difficult. today he will try to refocus their attention to the economy after returning from that overseas trip. >> looking forward to the tone to see how the president discusses this new environment. arlette saenz, thank you. and the president our reporters back at the table with us, excuse me. the president essentially until he gets a sense of this new environment, he has to assume it will be confrontational when it comes to the house, talk about what you've done because you don't have optimism you will be able to do anything else. >> he will be implementing some of the things he's done in the past. has talked about people haven't seen the impact of the infrastructure bill, the inflation reduction act, some of the things that will kick in next year. they will be spending time talking about things they have already done and trying to implement them and get support for that. the other thing they will be trying to do with the president speaking to business leaders today is present ago split
screen contrast on what reaps are doing. republicans want to gin up controversy and i'm leading using my executive authority to try to fix the economy. there is a little bit of politicking going on even as the president will be taking on the idea of divided government, realizing that there's not as much that can be done legislatively but a lot can be done message-wise. >> might be a little more than a little bit of politicking going on. you say keep us in charge and we will codify roe v. wade, will try to expand an expanded child tax credit, even more than we did last year on climate change and continue fund to go ukraine. all of that is at a minimum a giant question mark. in terms of getting any significant legislation passed through a republican house, the answer is zip, zero, nad darks right? >> yes, it is. that's the flip side of the coin. the biden administration can essentially blame republicans for all of that and that's not
that was not something they could do when they controlled the house, senate and white house. they could not turn around and say we would have done so much more if not for the republicans that stood in our way at every turn, instead they were dealing with joe manchin and kyrsten sinema and had to shoulder that blame themselves. codifying roe versus wade, it's off the table. >> it's going to be all messaging, both chambers. >> until 2024. >> so for people watching -- people watching out in the country who think, really? washington, again? anything? anything? can they do anything on let's say guest worker program, businesses need that. the dreamers, bipartisan agreement on that. the border. i think the american people do want more border security but also might be tolerant toward -- is there no way they can do small things? >> i will say no. no and no. there is virtually no way they can come together on this stuff unless something dramatically
changes. there will be pressure points, they will have to fund the government, have to raise the debt ceiling. those lead to negotiations, but that will be very difficult to do and those will lead to negotiations. we talked to a lot of house republicans over the last couple of days, some of them making very clear they want to use those as pressure points to deal with the border and other issues, but that can potential lead to a shutdown if democrats disagree and potential debt default. >> so to that point, this was in a piece you wrote on the hill the other day, having lived through and covered the white house during a couple government shutdowns, shut downs benefit nobody. social security office is closed, the military has to worry are they going to get their checks. most gets figured out. the financial markets go crazy. brian mast said nobody has liked government shut downs but i think you are in a different state of play right now where people will be, in part, pining for government shutdowns. who is going to be pining? who not involved in politics living in real america trying to
juggle lingering pandemic, inflation, uncertain economy, kids in school, higher gas prices, who out there is pining for a government shutdown? >> i don't want to overread the results of the midterms but i do think one of the messages from independents was can we stop it with the crazy stuff and get stuff done? >> it's a fair -- >> i think if something requires an affirmative vote of both chambers it will be very, very difficult to get it done. there are some fledgeling efforts under way, i think they mostly still live in the fantasy realm but there are centrist democrats talk being whether they can bring over some drn whatever is left of moderate republicans or people in trouble in districts in terms of voting on individual things, in terms of flipping party affiliation, in terms of all that stuff. i don't see it, but it's an effort and it exists. i do think if you look -- if history is a guide, there is the idea that president biden would tack back towards the center to run towards 2024. i don't even know if the center
is a thing anymore but i think you talked about middle america, about rural voters, about manufacturing workers. i think that's the way that the democrats are going to try to retorque that branding effort, but i think a lot of this is 2024 issues at this point. >> to your point about independents there is some pining for something of a center at least a governing center that can get some things done, but just the -- as much as we've talked about how donald trump has been dablngd by these midterm elections there is still a republican base that demands a different style of politics and it's the one that brian mast described there and it's going to mean we lurch from crisis to crisis. >> as the 2024 campaign begins and donald trump has already started his piece of that the pressure on them to follow the base. up next for us, north korea drawing global condemnation after test ago missile that, yes, could have the range to reach the united states. oh, no! bye, bye cough. later chest congestion.
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united states and its allies are condemning north korea's latest launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile, one of its most powerful yet. overnight the vice president kamala harris calling an emergency meeting with allies, she is at the asia-pacific economic summit in thailand. she wanted that meeting to discuss the missile launch. most recently is a brazen violation of multiple u.n. security resolutions. it destabilizes second ris in the region and unnecessarily raises tensions. >> japanese officials say the
missile landed off their coast, but there are analysis is that it had enough range to reach the mainland united states. paula hancock is live with more. >> reporter: john, we've certainly heard over the past five years that these icbms could have the range to hit mainland united states if they're fired with the a regular angle and it was no different today hearing that from japan's defense minister. as you mentioned at that apex summit in thailand there was an emergency meeting called by u.s. vice president harris with the leaders of south korea, japan, australia, new zealand, canada, they all condemned the launch and all pledged to work closer together. there was a swift physical reaction, though, from those in the region. we saw japan sending some jets up into the air, in fact, one f-16 filmed what it said was the vapor trails of the missile itself. we also saw a joint drill from the air forces of the u.s. and south korea, they were simulating an aerial attack on
some missile launches, mobile missile launches, the joint chiefs of staff say that that was a direct message to north korea basically telling them that they are able to pinpoint where they launch from and they can attack if need be. john? >> paula hancocks, live in seoul. karen bass about to make history and about to face some giant challenges. democratic congresswoman next month will become the first woman to serve as mayor of los angeles. in her first speech bass outlining her top priorities. >> i will be a mayor for you. the people of los angeles, my message is we are going to solve homelessness, we are going to prevent and respond urgently to crime and los angeles will no longer be unaffordable for working families. >> cnn national political reporter may reston live. congresswoman soon to be mayor bass, she won't have much time to celebrate. a lot to deal with.
>> no, and those were some pretty lofty goals that she outlined in that first speech yesterday. i mean, the homelessness problem here, we've got more than 40,000 people living on the streets in los angeles and that became the central issue in this race along with crime and also corruption at city hall, but the challenges that she faces are immense, you know, in terms of building affordable housing, getting wealthy neighborhoods to agree to allow that housing in their neighborhoods, and she's talked about her experience as a coalition builder, someone who can come in and kind of shake up city hall, bring that change that voters were looking for here, john, but as you know this ended up being a much closer race than perhaps she had expected at the beginning because her opponent rick caruso spent more than $100 million the most expensive race in the city's history and it was a
fascinating one to watch, but huge challenges ahead. >> part of the history is that we will now have a black mayor in americas four largest cities. in chicago, in new york, in houston and now in los angeles. mayor eric adams a former police officer, you know that well, and he has tried to reposition the democratic party on policing and crime. i want you to listen to mayor-elect bass talking to wolf blitzer yesterday. sounds like she's trying to do a bit of the same here. listen. >> i don't believe putting police officers on the street alone solves -- will solve crime. there are some neighborhoods that want to see an increased police presence and that should be the case, but there are other neighborhoods that want to see other solutions. you have to stop crime when it happens, but you also need to double down and triple down on preventing crime so that it doesn't occur again. >> walk through that challenge as she comes out of the progressive movement, a lot of republicans have used the defund the police lines from some progressives against the democrats. she seems to be saying it's a mix of things there. >> yeah, some real nuance on
that that we saw from her throughout this race. rick caruso had called for 11,000 officers on the street, while she had talked about bringing police staffing levels back up to 9,700 officers. she had also talked about hiring more civilians so that police officers could be freed up to be out on the street because she had done so much work on criminal justice reform, but she really had to be careful about not being tagged with, you know, that label that republicans have tried to put on democrats with the defund the police movement. so she talked about lots of different strategies to address that problem and her own home was burglarized during the race and she talked about feeling like a victim in that and was able to relate to some of those concerns that voters had raised on that issue, john. >> one of the many big post election transitions to keep an eye on.
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after two decades as the house democratic leader. her place in history is assured. the first woman to serve as a party leader in congress, the first woman to serve as a speaker of the house. presidential historian doug brinkley joins us to share his perspective. doug is also the author of a new book. doug, grateful for your time today. i want to try to do some connective tissue with the book in just a second. first, nancy pelosi's place in history will be what? >> it's large. i think she's maybe the most important speaker of the house in american history. some like james k. polk he used the speakership to become president, in the 20th century you had people like joseph canon during the thee door roosevelt taft era, sam rayburn is often talked about as one of the greats during eisenhower and kennedy and tip o'neill due to his friendship with ronald reagan is epic stuff, but nancy
pelosi has a legacy that is so large not just for shattering the glass ceiling of being a woman but i think the affordable care act. i mean, that really has provided so many people with the ability to pay for operations, surgical procedures, saved lives, and obama and harry reid say it couldn't be done without nancy pelosi. that's a big feather in her cap. john, i don't think she's going away. she's going to be in the temple, as she calls it, the capitol, and like john lewis who stayed as an icon in the -- in congress until the very end, she will be there instructing this new generation of elected officials in the democratic party on what to do, how to do procedures. she is now the grand leader of the democratic party and she's not going away, she will be a big asset for these freshmen congressmen and women of this entering class. >> she will be doing that at a
time most people foresee gridlock, a small republican house majority, joe biden as the president, a small democratic majority in the senate. hard to get much done, which is why i want to get to the question about this, you write in the book about the birth of the environmental movement, the power of rachel carson but then democratic and republican presidents in an era where we had bobby kennedy assassinated, martin luther king assassinated, watergate, vietnam and yet despite all those things that tore the country apart the environmental movement gained traction and moved. the climate movement now not so much given the peculiar dplags in washington. why does that have to be so? >> in 1960, john, scientists were "time magazine's" people of the year as a class of experts. there was this period that democrats and republicans believed the data, believed the empirical information they were getting and could make judgments accordingly. so rachel carson once ddt banned -- or edges towards
saying that in her book of 1962, it's banned in 1972 by richard nixon and the first head of the epa. the endangered species act, a very progressive legislation to protect our world's wildlife, it passed 92-0 in the senate in 1973 because everybody thought we needed to save our flora and fawna. that ended when things divided between the energy lobby and oil, gas, extraction industries, versus the environmentalists. figure to ohio, john, where i'm from and give a speech and say let's clean lake erie, let's make it so we can swim and fish in it, i will get a bipartisan standing ovation, but if i use the word environment, i am seen as a stalking horse for the democratic party. that's unfortunate that we are divided like that because we all
share the same air and water and love our national heirlooms that i write about in the book, like the north cascades in washington. these are our taj mahals, these are our westminster abbeys, it should bring us american pride that we have a new beautification movement and start taking the climate of science seriously and find ways to do mitigation efforts to end these epic wildfires in california or these mega floods in the midwest or droughts or hurricanes like ivan. >> doug brinkley, i wish we had more time today. i'm looking forward to reading this on my annual snowboarding trip this year. >> thank you, john. up next, it's beginning to look a lot like christmas here in washington. just without the lactose. tastes great in our iced coffees too. which makes s waking up at 5 a.m. to milk the cows a little easier. (moo) mabel says for you,
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the new subway series menu. the greatest sandwich roster ever assembled. tony, the new outlaw's got double pepper jack and juicy steak. let's get some more analysis on that, chuck. mmm. pepper jack. tender steak. very insightful, guys. the new subway series. what's your pick? topping our political radar, the georgia republican governor brian kemp tomorrow joins republican senate candidate herschel walker on the campaign trail for the first time that according to the walker campaign. walker facing an incumbent democrat rafael warnock in a december 6th runoff. the nation's capitol getting into the holiday spirit, the 2022 capitol christmas tree is here. it will be lit on the west lawn of the capitol later today. thanks for your time watching "inside politics" this week. ana cabrera picks up our coverage right now