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welcome to "the lead," i'm brianna keeler, jake tapper is on signment. we begin in the investigations into donald trump. attorney general merrick garland announcing he's appointing a special council to oversee the criminal investigation of trump's role in the january 6 insurrection and attempts to overturn the 2020 election as well as the probe of the classified documents seized from his mar-a-lago estate. here is garland explaining this extraordinary move. >> based on recent developments, including the former president's announcement that he is a candidate for president in the next election, and the sitting president's stated intention to be a candidate as well, i have concluded that it is in the public interest to appoint a special counsel. >> the attorney general is naming former acting u.s. attorney jack smith as special counsel. smith is a career prosecutor who currently serves as the chief prosecutor for the special court
of the hague where he investigated war crimes. garland said the appointment will not slow down the pace of the investigations which cnn has learned have ramped up here in recent weeks with prosecutors in both cases sending out multiple new subpoenas to witnesses. donald trump is also dismissing the appointment of the special counsel. moments ago, called the move unfair and political. paula reid reports on what would expect from the new special counsel and what his appointment means for the former president. >> in certain extraordinary cases it's in the public interest to appoint a special prosecutor to independently manage an investigation and prosecution. >> reporter: merrick garland naming former justice department official jack smith to independently head up two major criminal investigations focused on former president trump. the move coming days after trump announced his third run for
president. underscoring the legal jeopardy the former president faces as cnn has learned prosecutors recently sent out a fresh round of subpoenas in both probes. >> based on recent developments, including the former president's a announcement that he is a candidate for the next election and sitting president's stated intention to be a candidate as well, i have concluded that it is in the public interest to appoint a special counsel. >> jack smith has previously served in multiple roles at the justice department and since 2018 he has been the chief prosecutor for the special court of hague, investigating war crimes in kosovo. he will now see the investigation into whether mr. trump mishandled information seized from his mar-a-lago residence in august and including some marked classifiedp taken from the white house. >> they should give me back everything that they've taken from me. because it is mine. >> reporter: and the special
counsel will oversee aspects of the investigation into the attack on the capitol on january 6, 2021. and what trump's role may have been leading up to that day. >> and we're going to the capitol. >> reporter: just officials had helped appointing a specialel will insolate from political blow back and while charging a presidential candidate but tonight a term spokesperson called it a political stunt and as we've seen in previous investigations, it will likely be impossible to shield this work from political attacks. >> it certainly will be. paula, thank you for that report. i do want to bring in kristin holmes. trump started this week announcing his presidential campaign. he's ending it here with a special counsel announcement. how is he reacting to this news. >> well the former president is lashing out at the special counsel announcement. he just did an interview moments after the appointment of the special counsel and here is what he said. he said, i have been proven innocent for six years on
everything from fake impeachments to mueller who found no collusion and now i have to do it more. it is not acceptable. it is so unfair. this was politicization of justice. the republican party has to stand up and fight. he also going on to say he's not going to partake in any of this. we know his legal team had been dreading this prospect, that they did not want to this prolong the investigation but i talked to people around his campaign that said they were prepared for this. they believed that this could be a possibility and they were ready and clearly here we could see from donald trump, dismissing this and playing the victim. >> you could hear how he's going to play this on the campaign trail. m he always takes what is a legal negative and tries to often successfully make it into a political positive, at least with his base. >> that is right. and there is a hope among those around him who particularly saw his announcement, thought he was subdued and that he accident have the magnetism and the
energy. that incidences like this, will rally his base and rally republicans and you hear it in the final line. the republican party has to stand up and fight. it is not a coincidence that he's talking about this at a time when republicans are turning their back on the former president saying it is time to move on. he's bringing party into this after he made an announcement and it is not surprising. because we know that trump wants to have that support from the party particularly going into 2024 as part of this announcement was to freeze the field any way ant put himself in is front. >> it is telling if this is animating or not. thank you. let's bring in jeremy diamond at white house. did president biden have any idea that this was coming because this was kept separate historically from the white house. >> that is right. news of the special counsel broke as president biden was walking into a room with business executives and labor leaders and as soon as the president finished speaking i and other reporters in the room
shouted at the president to ask him for his reaction but he didn't answer and it is because i am told he didn't know at the time. the white house did not get any heads up from the justice department about the decision or the planned announcement of the appointment of this special counsel. another white house official said that the department of justice makes the decisions about its criminal investigations independently, saying we are not involved. and that is all very intentional, of course. we've seen that president biden, he succeeded a president who really blurred those lines, who sought to repeatedly interfere with the justice department's independence and its investigations. and so president biden, one of his first tasks coming into office was to try and re-establish that bright red line between the justice depa department and the white house particularly when it comes to ongoing investigations. and that is the white house motto as they've been asked questions about various criminal
investigations including those into the former president or the criminal investigation into the president's son. they have repeatedly given the same line, which is that they do not comment on active investigations and they respect the justice department's independence. brianna. >> thank you so much. and let's talk about all of this plow with our legal experts. we have elie honig and jennifer rodgers with us. does this indicate anything about trump's chances of being indicted? >> well, brianna, i think that it means that their ramping this thing up. you wouldn't bother appointing a special counsel if they had determined that they weren't going to charge him and they were just going to wind it down over the next weeks and months. so it is certainly not a hundred percent certain that they will charge him. but they're pushing ahead. they're issuing subpoenas and this definitely means that there is at least a good chance that ultimately there will be charges filed. >> trump's response to this was to say i announced or i announce that i'm running and then they
announce that they're going to do this with the special counsel. you heard the attorney general making it clear that, yes, that was the consideration, but in a way it was to take it out of this political mix. what do you think of the timing here? >> well, the whole point of doing this, of appointing a special counsel is to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest and according to the attorney general, the official auns noment was the trigger and he said that we can't have a scenario where you have me, merrick garland as joe biden's attorney general investigating somebody who is likely or potentially going to be running against joe biden in 2024. but the response is exactly what we could have expected. we're starting to hear from donald trump which is celeb, if this is a conflict of interest now, why wasn't it a year ago. he's long been considered a front-runner so we're hear hear
from trump. and doj is admitted what has been done has been subject to a conflict of interest and only addressing it now but they may argue it is too late. >> jennifer, what do you think? >> well, i don't know. i mean, listen, i don't think you could expect a special counsel to be appointed at the outset of an investigation before you really know what you have as your gathering facts. the point is well taken, we're certainly going to hear the arguments from the trump team. but i think that merrick garland has been so deliberate about everything that he's done and so thoughtful and they have bent over backwards to be fair to the president, to give him more process than anyone else would have gotten. look at the how the search at mar-a-lago was handled. this is another step in merrick garland's attempts to be more than fair to the former president and i think the special counsel is part and parcel of that practice. so i think after all is said and done, it should be said that he is treating this about as carefully and as he can.
>> when robert mueller was announced, everybody was announced and when jack smith is announced, a lot of people don't know who he is. he's not a very well-known figure. and i wonder if that was maybe on purpose? >> oh, i'm sure it had to be deliberate. the special counsel regulations say that the person has to be somebody from outside of the federal government, now which jack smith is and somebody with a strong reputation for independence. if this was somebody who was already well-known, there would be a book on the person one way or another. i'm quite certain that donald trump and his lawyers are digging into jack smith right now and looking to see if he donated $5 to either political party or went to a fundraiser or anything like that. but i think it is a splmart mov. the whole pint is to create an appearance of independence. if you could get someone that is n anonymous but also has the background, the resume, a state and federal prosecutors and a war crimes prosecutor over many
decades, i think this is exactly what you should be looking for in a special counsel. >> and the cnn reporting on this, sources have been telling our reporters, jennifer, that trump's legal team has been dreading this. and i wonder, if you were a trump lawyer, besides digging up op on jack smith, what is your next course of action here? >> no, that is a great question. this obviously has been ongoing for some time. this investigation and all of its various tentacles. so i don't know what they're going to do specific. i think they want to see who joins the team if smith brings in other people from outside or adopts the prosecutors already working on this. but they're going to have to shift their focus a little bit because he's going to come in and it will take a little time for him to get up to speed and then he said he's full steam ahead without some of the same concerns and ideas toward deference maybe that merrick garland and his team has have.
so i see why they're worried about. >> what would you do if you were a trump lawyer right now? >> would you handle this like like any other criminal prosecution. jack smith now as special counsel has the same powers that any assistant u.s. attorney or any doj prosecutor has. would you tell my client to be quiet. to stop talking. to make no public statements. we know lawyers have tried that. we know that is not going to work with donald trump. one thing i would try to do, though, is establish contact with the special counsel. this happens quite a bit. people in the cross-hairs of an investigation establish working relationships with the prosecutors who are investigating them. you could try -- with the ult mal goal of trying to convince the prosecutor it is not a good idea to charge me. that happens all of the time. so i look to do it that way as well. >> thank you so much for helping us make sense of what is a very big development today. >> thanks. >> so how is this new special counsel going to effect the 2024 presidential race. we're going to get into that
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and we're back with our politics lead. donald trump already lashing out at the special counsel declaring he won't participate in the investigation and calling the appointment unfair and political. so let's talk about this. joanie, trump has a well rehearsed playbook. i don't think it is any surprise. what i'm curious about is how you think other republicans who are considering a primary run might be looking at this and how this may or may not effect them. >> i think that is right. and trump's response is a sobby and the scorpion has the sting the frog and saying the deep state and it is rigged sand all of this. after the midterms creates even more of an opportunity for republicans to say this just proves that we need to urn it the page, we need a fresh startm we don't want four more years of this and we don't need the
baggage. donald trump was great, blah blah blah. whether they jump on that or not, it is sort of too soon to tell. i would guess that -- that ron desantis will practice his long-standing policy of not saying anything and letting the events color everything. but i don't think that you're going to see a rally around trump like you did after the mar-a-lago search. >> and republicans in congress, now that they have control are indicating they're going after biden directly. or hunter biden's laptop, mayorkas at the department of homeland security, so this announcement from merrick garland and the department of justice gives the biden administration an opportunity to keep the insurrection, to keep the fragile narrative front and center and have that be focused on trump who is now a candidate for president again. >> do you think trump is more vulnerable because of this politically? >> he certainly is more vulnerable legally than in a long time. but the challenge on the left that we're seeing as far as democrats and their unity is
that it might be too little too late. this is something that democrats would have hoped would have been resolved as part of the follow-up in congress, the congressional hearings and now they've lost control, having a special counsel does not necessarily get them the wins that they need or the points on the board in time for the presidential. >> what do you think of jack smith as the pick here for special counsel? >> like i said in the break. it is completely political. according to donald trump's statement. he just hasn't figured out how yes. jack smith seems to be by all accounts completely separated from american politics. he's not even on this continent. prosecuting war crimes on the the hague. he has a nonpartisan record and prosecuted both democrats and republicans. but donald trump was always going to make this political. in fact, there are some who think that part of his campaign motivation was to try to say this investigation is political because i'm running for president. but here are the facts.
prior to this, republicans are making no bones about it. they're going to haul merrick garland up before congress and they've sent him a letter saying preserve documents and he would have become the punching bag. he's still becoming the punching bag z. that mean he allows that to happen and try to do everything that he can to prevent that, yeah. and that is what this is. >> i don't know how you prevent that. just because someone is unknown doesn't mean they'll come to be defined. in vacuum it is worse. i think we saw what happened with mueller's reputation. it is very hard to kind of skate through trump's world and not come out reputationally damaged. but this is also interesting because we're in the era of the sort of semi independent special counsel. this is not the ken starr independent counsel, this is -- that means if you're spending a lot of time brothering merrick garland and messing with his reputation, you could also then say this is tainted this
investigation. one eermother thing about whetht would hurt him politically, it is one of five investigations going on. he's lived his life in a legal cloud. so how he punches his way through in this particular environment, yes, it will be interesting to watch how republicans deal with it. >> he's a little bulletproof, at least from first blush. when he was the head of the public integrity unit, he closed down without filing charges investigations into tom delay, doolittle, and other republicans. there is a lot of people on the left saying my god, this is not the right -- on twitter at least, saying this does not look like the kind of special counsel that we want because he let other republicans skate. i think that is a really hard talking point for trump defenders to get around given that he did something that was sort of in the partisan interest of republicans in the past. >> the scope of the investigation is going to be interesting. now that it is independent and it could continue potentially past the biden administration, the attorney general general hinted that he would like the special prosecutor to look at
beyond mar-a-lago and beyond national security documents but looked others who may have been involved in supporting the january 6 insurrection. that enclose include ginni tho thomas. >> and james comer, the incoming chairman of the oversight committee spoke with pamela brown about what that could look like as it pertains to president biden's son hunter. >> there is no plans to subpoena joe biden. there are plans to subpoena hunter biten. if he were hunter biden, i would want to come before my committee and prove my innocence. >> why then would you not subpoena joe biden if this is all about joe biden. >> well it is complicated to subpoena a president of the united states. >> it is complicated, audi. it is not unprecedented though. so i wonder what it tells you that he's ruling out doing it at this point. >> and i think basically they
have messed around with their oversight responsibilities so much over the last couple of years, that they've undermined it as a tool of governance and now these accusations of being weaponized, they resonate to the public to some extent. so one thing to look out for, are they going to flood the zone with so many random investigations that who knows where trump's investigation is in the mix. hunter is being investigated, joe is being investigated. what does it all mean. i think part of it is to create a fog of war for the voter. >> that tells me they don't have the connective tissue to what hunter did to anything that the president did when he was vice president or president. >> but did you need it or just doing it out in the air. >> they'll still do it. >> there is a doj investigation into hunter as well. >> there is a doj investigation into hunter. but the connective tissue to joe biden is what they're promising. an and it tells me, let me finish,
that they don't have it because it is a couple of years looking into hunter and his laptop. there is a lot of investigations and the reason why is because the investigations are the agenda. what they ran on was crime and inflation. but now that they're in power, mccarthy is going to have such a narrow, narrow majority, i cannot -- i test everyone at this table to come up with what is going to be the bipartisan deal that kevin mccarthy will deliver that a louie gohmert or marjorie taylor green will get through the agenda. >> and to heidi's point, thabs the challenge republicans will face. if they're already at this moment, their victory talking about conspiracy theories and investigations into the current president, they're missing money opportunity for a agenda that they were just given a plan date to execute. >> certainly, there may be efforts to pull the biden white house floor this, right. and when we saw efforts in congressional oversight with the trump administration, there was so much stonewalling.
i asked all of you, is the biden white house going to be any different in that regard, do you think? >> i think rhetorically they'll be different to be sure. i want to say, i think there is a colorful argument for investigating hunter biden and into investigating the origins of covid and a lot of the investigations that democrats didn't want to do when they controlled the house. i have very little confidence for the reasons heidi was getting at, that this congress will do anything other than throw out a lot of performative nonsense rather than getting to the heart of this. >> the biden administration has staked its reputation on the rule of law and democracy so we'll have honor that but based on past democratic administrations, they have not been in contempt of congress in order to be able to give testimony. there are ways to comply that were not taken by trump officials. >> and we'll see how this all plays out. it is going to be a very interest interesting next couple of t
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it is expected. that is all i could say. >> we've been through this before. to me it is not big deal. but any family wants efverythin done. and saying to stay inside and off the road saying there is a travel ban with many flights in and out of the region canceled. >> please stay indoors. do not go out unless it is an absolute emergency. >> reporter: national weather service forecasters said l lake-effect snow is fuelling this storm when cold air blows over warmer lake water picking up more moisture and leading to higher snow amounts downstream. climate experts warn water temperatures in the great lakes grow warmer each year shortening the length of time ice covers the surface during the winter. >> i want to remind everybody that there is a lake effect warning still in effect. so this is still moving. so we need to still take this serious. >> reporter: and officials here in erie county, new york, have confirmd two storm related deaths today. these were two individuals that
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topping our world lead today, north korea launching two missiles in two days and latest had the potential to reach the united states. cnn paula hon hancock has more on this latest provocation. >> reporter: north korea launching a second missile in two days. drawing the attention of world leaders including kamala harris attending the asian pacific cooperation summit in thailand. they believe this ballistic missile could travel more than 9300 miles and meaning it could hit mainland united states potentially fitted with a nuclear warhead. forces at the u.s. air base in japan were ordered to shelter in place shortly after the launch. >> this conduct by north korea most recently is a brazen
violation of multiple u.n. security resolutions. it destabilize security in the region, and unnecessarily raises tension. >> reporter: harris met with allied leaders at side lines of the summit, all condemned the launch and vowed to work closely together. physical responses were swift, japan dispatched aircraft and f-15 filming this, what they believe to be the con trails or vapor trails of the missile. the u.s. and south korea air forces took to the air in a joint zril simulating aerial strikes on mobile missile launches. >> don't think this is necessarily representing a game changer. we've known that north korea has the ability to range the continental united states for more than five years now. so the basic picture between the united states and north korea remains the same. >> reporter: the launch follows strong words from north korea's foreign minister. who warns the u.s. of a fear some military counter action and
condemned joe biden's discussions about the kim jong-un missile program at the g20 summit this week. >> i'm confident china is not looking for north korea engage and further he is callatory means. >> reporter: but north korea continues to break its own record for firing missiles with 34 days of launches this year. the state-run media showing that kim jong-un led this launch, we're hearing from an aide that it was a new type of intercontinental ballistic missile and quoting kim jong-un as saying it the us and hostile forces which makes it necessary to bolster their nuclear deterrence. brianna. >> paula following this from south korea. thank you for that report. also in our world lead, in response to the announcement that the title 42 immigration policy would come to an end next month, aide workers at one part of the u.s./mexico border estimate that about 2,000
migrants are mobilizing to cross over. we are at the border with texas. >> reporter: we start early. only to realize they're already on the move. from the mexico side of the border we watch the migrant families nearing closer to their final destination. or so they hope. >> these folks have already gone across the river. technically they're already in the u.s. they're continue along the wall here until they get an entrance where they'll likely be zee tained and start their process in entering the u.s. >> reporter: we continue further down along the rio grande and find this camp city sitting in mexico, opposite el paso, texas. this is the second time. mary bell and her husband and son motivated to try again after learning this week a judge struck down what is called title 42. a trump era policy allows border
agents to turn away migrants crossing illegally in the name of covid prevention. since it took effect in march of 2020 there have been 2.5 million expulsions most under the biden administration. >> what do you know of title 42? [ speaking non-english ] >> they said two days ago they heard that they got rid of it. >> reporter: not exactly. order remains in effect until december 31st. >> he said it is scared because it is hard because you don't know what will happen. >> after a tearful hug with a friend they cautiously inch closer. dozens do the same over the course of just a few hours. we also meet rafael rojas, about to follow in their footsteps. >> that is not your clothes? >> reporter: wearing clothes donated by americans. he recounted the painful journey from venezuela walking through treacherous jungles an witnessing death and a lot of
death. but for some, like 9-year-old ruby mota, it was an adventure. that is how her innocent mind remembers it. she narrates the trek that most in the cam took starting in venezuela and then -- >> columbia. honduras and costa rica. nicaragua, mexico. >> reporter: ruby can't remember the last time she was in a classroom. but she hopes to go to school in new york. >> one month here. >> reporter: ruby's family wants to cross immediately, if they could find a loving home for linda. part of the family. but pets aren't allowed in. back at the crossing site this man's mother crying over facetime not knowing the next time she'll see his face. others forge ahead, a endless stream, one that continues
uphill. brianna, just over my shoulder here, this is the venezuela flag here in mexico. and that is because the vast majority of these folks are from venezuela. the department ofless has allowedp 24,000 to enter under a pathway program but we're talking about one of the largest humanitarian crisis in the world and you have millions that are hoping to get into the u.s. >> yeah. so many. david culver, thank you for that report. next, the new time line into the stabbing deaths of four idaho college students as we also learn at least one victim tried to fight back. you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's goining. (dock worker) right on timime. (vo) robots can preredict breakdowns and order their own replplacemet parts. (fororeman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business.
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new information about the murders of four college students in idaho. we now know more about the final hours of all of the victims, as well as the surviving roommates who police say could be key to the investigation. cnn's veronica miracle has a look at what we're learning. >> reporter: a bar, fraternity house and taco truck, all locations the victims visited the night of their murders. police releasing a map showing those locations for the first time, hoping new leads will break the case. >> we're looking for additional tips and leads and we believe that releasing information about the location of the victims throughout the night might generate some information that we can follow up on. >> reporter: the timeline showing the precise movements of all four victims in the hours before their deaths. police say all of the victims were home by 1:45 a.m. and that their bodies were found on the
second and third floors of the home. >> is the first floor where the roommates were sleeping? >> yeah, we haven't identified where the roommates were. >> reporter: the biggest question is who killed them and why. there are still no suspects. >> we contend this was targeted. we cannot divulge the information of why we believe that or how. that is integral to this investigation. >> reporter: police are clarifying why they're not releasing more information about the victims' roommates, who were at home during the attacks. >> in a case someone may potentially be a victim, they may be a witness or they may be a suspect. in this case we don't know what the roommates are exactly at this time. >> reporter: xana k's father saying he talked to her before she died. >> we talked to her in the afternoon and she was fine. they were just hanging out at home. >> reporter: her father too distraught to be interviewed on camera, saying he has learned his daughter had defensive wounds, showing she fought her
attacker. >> bruises, you know, she's a tough kid. whatever she wanted to do, she could do it. >> reporter: the county coroner confirmed that some students had defensive stab wounds to the hands and there were no signs of sexual assault or an issue of drugs or alcohol. >> that's really the main thing i saw, was a lot of blood. >> is there any indication that had somebody found these people earlier than when they were discovered that they could have been saved? >> no, i haven't seen anything that would lead me to think they could have been saved if somebody had called in earlier. >> reporter: as for the investigation there's no weapon recovered and no motive, and for the parents no answers about why their children aren't coming home this thanksgiving. >> this crime scene here still very active. investigators taking photographs behind me in this bedroom on the third floor, where we know those victims were found. >> let's hope they found out
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