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ceasefire. so he gave putin just about everything. putin wanted no entry to nato for ukraine, number one. number two, you're going to give up the territory. so these are all cases where there have been big differences. >> and of course we will we will see as this process continues to play out, you never know the next true social from the president may have someone entirely different in line for this job. one never knows. thank you all for being with us today. and jake tapper is standing by for the lead. hi, jake. >> hey, casey. >> good to see you. >> we'll see. >> you back in the arena tomorrow. >> sounds great. have a great show. mike waltz is out. >> as trump's national security adviser, but that is just half the story. the lead starts right now. apparently, that signal gate group chat controversy did not get mike waltz completely canceled. coming up, his new gig at the u.n., as the president ushers in his interim national
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security advisor. also, his current secretary of state, marco rubio. plus, the financial report from mcdonald's that might make you feel sick. and an earnings call revealing how much trouble the u.s. economy might be in. are we headed for a recession? and are the billionaires running this administration possibly out of touch with how americans live? and the transformation happening in rome ahead of the super secret conclave process at the sistine chapel? welcome to the lead. i'm jake tapper, and at any moment, president trump is expected to leave the white house, where reporters are waiting to ask him about today's major staff shakeup. sources telling cnn this morning that national security adviser mike wallace would be leaving the administration. then, hours later, trump added a new twist, announcing, quote, i will be nominating mike wallace to be the next united states ambassador to the united nations. in the interim, secretary of state marco rubio will serve as national security adviser while continuing his
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strong leadership at the state department. so this does appear to be something of a soft landing for waltz, who just over one month ago somehow added a journalist to a signal chat where top trump officials were discussing military attack plans. president trump at the time defended waltz publicly, saying this. >> i don't think he should apologize. i think he's doing his best. it's equipment and technology that's not perfect, and probably he won't be using it again. >> well, there does appear to be a question of how well waltz took that message. reuters photos captured waltz using signal on his phone. just yesterday during trump's cabinet meeting. you can see the names of vice president vance and tulsi gabbard, the director of national intelligence, on that signal chat at the beginning of the signal group chat scanl, waltz hielf went through a slate of shaky sus defenses. the first e was this. >> this plot of journalists in this city who have made big.
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>> names. >> for themselves, making up lies about this. >> president. >> this one. >> in particular. >> i've never m. don't know. never communicated with. and we are and we are. looking into and reviewing.g. >> how the. >> heck he got. into this room. >> yeah, it's such a mystery. waltz claimed. not particularly believable. if you take a look at this 2021 photograph posted by a french philosopher, you can see waltz and hegseth standing there. they are cheek to cheek, almost. waltz insisted he didn't know goldberg. there they are, standing right next to each other. waltz was never able to explain publicly just exactly how this journalist's number slipped and fell into his phone, or was sucked into it. he eventually kind of took some. responsibility, sort of. >> it's embarrassing. yes, we're going to get to the bottom of it. we have. i just talked to ellen on the way here. >> we've got the best technical minds looking at how this happened. i take i. >> take responsibility. i built
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the i built the group. >> yeah. you don't really need the best technical minds to look into it. i think we all know what happened. one source telling cnn today that president trump lost confidence in mike waltz a while ago. let's bring in cnn's jeff zeleny. jeff, what led to waltz getting pushed out of his current role, but not out the trump administration entirely? i mean, the u.n. ambassador is still a very prestigious gig, jake. >> it is procedures, there's no doubt about it. and yes, it is a soft landing. however, it is to a role that is nowhere near the white house, also nowhere near the president's really a center of interest. he's long railed against the united nations. it's an outpost, there's no doubt about it. but the president clearly wanted to avoid really the the staff shakeup sort of narrativthat really set into his first administration and really started a cascading series of effects. so that's why he did both of these announcements at the same time. but over the last several weeks, we are told that mike waltz is influence had been
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waning in the west wing. there is no question about it, jake. there was a really interesting moment as the president flew to michan earlier this week on air force one. mike waltz was walking ouon the tarmac joint base andrews, d he did not get on the pne, but on the plane was pete hegseth, the defense secretary. so at the end of the day, i was told by people familiar with this situation in the the west wing that the president sided th hegseth because he did n create the group chat. and gseth is supported by the maga world, if you will. and mikealtz ner was becausof his foreign policy views. buit was clear even before this announcement today in the rose garden, the president had his eye on marco rubio. >> marco rubio. unbelievable. unbelievable. marco, when i have a problem, i call up marco. he gets it solved. >> when i have a problem, i call up marco and get this solved. just a couple hours later, the president made this announcement on truth social. but jake, it is
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clear that this has really added one more thing to what the secretary of state is doing. look at this list of things that are on secretary rubio's. assignment list. also, the in addition to secretary of state, the acting national security advisor, a very big job, the acting usaid director and the acting archivist of the unit states. so clearly, marco rubio now is ascending and walz is taking his leave. jake. >> that's quite a resume, especially considering it's all happening at the same exact time. let's bring in cnn's kylie atwood at the state department. one of secretary rubio's current jobs. kylie, news of the shakeup and the evolving role of secretary rubio seemed to catch officials where you are at the state department off guard, you say. >> that's right. during the state department briefing, this was a remarkable moment where spokesperson tammy was speaking realed to her that this news had come. it was somethi that she cleaenhas just written on truth socl that
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mike waltz is going to become the new u.s. ambassador to the united nations. >> well, there you go. national security. fabulous. >> and in addition to that, he says that in the interim, secretary of state marco rubio will sve as national security advisor while continuing his strong leadership at the state department. do you know holong he is going to be serving in both roles? >> it is clear that just heard this from you. had this is the magic. >> no heads. >> up that this was i. i have some insights as to the potential of certain things that might happen. but when the president and this, of course, is all presidential decisions. right? so'm with the state department, i it is as i think would be clear to all of you, you don't want to get ahead of your skis in drawing conclusions. >> now, obviously, what this moment reveals, jake, is just how decisions are made in the trump white house. president trump made the decision on his own. it clearly wasn't widely
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coordinated beforehand, even with the department that it was going to be directly impacting. but tammy went on to say that the secretary of state has developed incredibly close relationship with president trump. he is over at the white house multiple times a week. we know through o reporting that heas developed a close relationship with many officials at the white house. this is a clear elevation for him, and we should note that tammylso spoke to him, tang on the role as the acting administrator of u.s. aid earlier this year, before that was largely shuttered and obviously moved here to the state rtment. but this is an even grander elevation for rubio. >> all right. kylie atwood at the state department, jeff zeleny at the white house, thanks to bothf you. let's global affairs correspondent for axios and cnn, political and global affairs analyst. barak, you reported for axios that waltz has been, quote, a dead man walking, unquote, in the white house for the past month. why was that? is it just because the signal gate? and are you surprised that he's been given
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a different role instead of just fired completely? >> well, jake, i. >> think. >> it was enough eting, with mike waltz sitting there. >> and looking. >> very weak and diminished. >> and when he spoke, it was clear that this is. not the same person. >> the same national security advisor from before the signal gate. >> affair. but as you said, it's not only that. it's, you know, a lot of policy issues that i think that waltz found himself again. >> and again in the minority. >> the iran issue. >> i think. >> maybe is. >> the most. prominent one. >> especially that. >> now there are. >> negotiations over this issue. but i think other issues like, you know, russia, ukraine and, and others. >> and i think. >> to. >> you know, to mike waltz, i think luck maybe, he wasn't
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fired like trump fired other people. >> remember how. >> he fired. >> rex tillerson. in the previous term? >> just tweeted that he's fired here. i think waltz got a much more graceful exit from this job and to another job pretty nice job over there in new york today. >> you're citing other factors that likely led to him waltz getting pushed out of his current role. what are they? >> for example, i thk he had a etty uneasy relationip with several people in the white house who are very senior. one wiles. ather one, white house eny steve witkoff. i think exiting from this job. i think
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in at let what i heard from so peoe in the white house ishat chief of staff susie wiles felt that waltwas not treating her with respect. think that's onof it. i think witcf, for examplefelt that sometimes waltz was going around him on ctain issues, and i think all those things created tensions that, togethewith the signal iss, together with policy differenc, led to the >> all rht, barak ravid, thank you so much for your insights. how is ts shakeup sittg with pporte? well, a key t there more tuble signs for the u.s. economy? the headnes today getting attention. that's next. >> the whole story with anderson cooper sunday at 8:00 on cnn. >> that's new. >> join me my friend. what are you doing? we are. >> living la vida loca.
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thanks so much for being here. what is your reaction to mike z? i know he's geing a good job at the unand that's nice, but is not as clo to the center of gravity in the president as national security advisor. mike'a great friend of mine. not just colleague, but a frie, someone that i lked to on a regular basis. mike has a young familand he has a actuallyew famy, if you want to think about it in terms of of most members of congress. it's tough. you know, i talked to him sometimes. he'd say he hadn't seen his kids in six days. it's a high pace. president trump has a remarkable energy level, and he drives hard. and everybody around him has to keep pace. he likes mike. president trump i know really likes mike. and for the fact that he's going from an appointed position to a cabinet position will tell you how much he wanted to keep mike around. but it's, you know, there's there's a family balance that a young, you know, a father of young kids has to have. you want to be there to raise your kids. so i don't see it as a shakeup at all. i see it as a transition to still keep mike in an
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advisory position to the president. i'm sure that there will be quality of life improvement, but that's not why this is happening. this is happening because the president doesn't want to be national security adviser. well, you're making that assumption. you're making that assumption. that isn't what's been said. well, it's reporting from people inside the white house. well, yeah, but people leak like a sieve and people have their own assumptions inside the white house, too. i know that mike was was really missing his kids. i know the president really trusts mike. i know the president is still putting him in a nominated position, in a cabinet position to be you know, to be over the un for the, for the united states and be advising directly to the president. so when you really start thinking about the position that that the president's done, you could make the assumption to if we're making assumptions here, that mike was wanting to have a little bit more family work life balance. and the position with the un is exactly is exactly what he could do or how he could
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make that work. well, you're a good friend, but let me ask you, because it is a. nsa is not confirmed by the senate. no, it's appointed by the president. right. and the u.s. ambassador to the un is. which means that soon to be ambassador waltz, who i have no doubt will be confirmed. you're absolutely correct about that. we'll testify and there will be questions about signal gate, which will bring a little heat on him, but maybe even more heat on your other friendpete hegseth, the secretary of defense. well, one thing this cabinet is used to is heat. the media reports, what, 100% of the news on pete hegseth is negative. 97% on the president is negative. i think 89% negative. news on on bobby kennedy. and i would say that would probably run parallel with mike waltz too. so the negative press that the media and the biased media is going to give them, it doesn't work. it doesn't affect their job. you seat they're doing? ey're doina great job. the president is doing exactly what he said. he made promes in the campaign. he's kept his
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promises. he's putting america back on track where they need to go. and this cabinet is the on tha's helping to deliver those promises for the peopl your former colleague in the hous foer air force general, congressman don bacon from nebraska, has said that if he were president, he would have fired pete hegseth because of the signal gate. the two instances and al hegseth not just assuming sponsibility and saying, i shoul't have done that. let's move on. well, i, i consider congressman bacon a friend, but he's not president. the president of united states won the presidency. so everybody's everybody's open to their opinion. i personally think pete hegseth is a is doing an excellent job. i also consider pete a very close friend of mine. he's doing exactly what he said he was the dod focused back on to get lethality and the warfighter. and, and you see the changes he's making. he's he you know, people around him may not like the changes, but he's willing to shake things up. that takes a lot of backbone, that takes confidence, and that takes assurity that you're working
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side by side with the commander in chief, doing exactly what he was asked to do. the president and, and, and secretary hegseth they work every day together and they are making a difference. you see that in retention. you see that in recruiting numbers inside the dod, we're hitting retention numbers that we haven't seen in years, and we're seeing recruiting nbers pass. anything that ever came in through the biden of that.nd you just changed t the perctage of the negative news against hegseth and waltz. i did i dropped it down to 99%. you just brought it up a little bit. good for you there. senator markwayne mullin of oklahoma. safe travels back to oklahoma. we appreciate your time today. the last cargo ships to leav chinand escape tr's riffs are now heren the united states. how quickly could that mean higher ices and shortag at a sre near you? if that's what it means, that's next. >> the biggest festival of the year is w extended. >> cnn underscored. >> deals fest. >> it's your last chance for exclusive deals in. home., beauty, cooking and more. cnn underscored deals fest shop now
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launch and doge cuts. simultaneously, we can hope for good news there, i suppose. those are just some pieces of the economic puzzle that we're trying to make sense of. joining us now to discuss oren cass. he's the chief economist at american compass. and, oren, to those of us o are not economis, things seem a little grimight now. can u give us your gut check on what allf this might mean for the american consumer? sure. thanks r. >> having me, jake. >> i thoug. >> that a little bit o >>. >>izarreead in. for. >> the the >>ay that. broughthe. >> the stock market back up to potive. >> terriry for the. ast month. >> well, there you are. there yogo. thank you so much. appreciate it. >>nd that's the end of the segment. >> i look i don't think the. >> stock market is. >> the. right measure. >> necessarily of the health of the economy. and among. >> other things, i. >> think, you know, there could be very. >> good economic policies that that do lead. >> to. >> drops in the stock market. but i think if you're asking
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what do people make of the last month all all things in what you're seeing is sort of certainly there was a lot of volatility and disruption initially. but but things have really calmed down since then. and i think, as you said, we are about to see the effect of the china tariffs hit fully. and and we should expect some, some disruption there. we obviously became totally dependent in some cases on, on chinese production for some things. and that's not a good thing. and reversing that is is going to have costs. but i think it's very encouraging to see us moving in a direction where, where we make some trade offs and we say, look, we dug ourselves a hole. we're. and we're finally starting to climb back out of it. >> here's what the treasury secretary scott bessent highlighted in yesterday's cabinet meeting. take a listen. >> high energy. >> costs have plummeted. mortgage rates are down. food costs are moving lower, and american families are finding their financial footing again. >> do you do you agree with his characterization? do you think
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american families feel that they're they're regaining their footing? >> well, i think the statistics he cited were correct in terms of of how american families are feeling. i think we're we're going to have to see what what the results are as this plays out. you know, on on one hand, a lot of the data looks pretty good on on the other hand, i think we've seen hits to to business confidence and consumer confidence that, you know, that's that's not a good thing in itself. and and certainly it can it can then drive costs and and and a slower economy. so i think the important thing is to not sort of wildly overreact in any particular direction and instead to look at what's happening and also to, to continue pushing for good policy. you know, i think the china tariffs are a perfect example, where right now we probably are are pushing the pedal down harder than we need to. i think the goal has to be to to stop relying on china over time. and in a sense, what matters the most is, is what
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will the tariff be three years from now so that investors start reacting accordingly? i think if we can get people focused on that, get people accepting things are going to change and thinking about how to do that transition. well, in the long run, we'll be very glad we did this. >> yeah, we've been talking to small business owners from coast to coast trying to do one every day, if we can. and some are supportive, some are worried. the ones who feel the most hurt and are the most supportive are people like the shrimper that we spoke with yesterday in south carolina who, you know, was just fed up with the unfairness of his industry because of the unhealthy shrimp that gets dumped from india, et cetera., into the united states. but a lot of people, even trump supporters, are just worried because of the uncertainty, because of the unpredictability. what do you say to them? >> well, what i would say is that we made a decision about 25 years ago when we when we embraced china and said we want
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to have free trade with china. we want them to be in the world trade organization. you know, that, of course, unleashed enormous amount of uncertainty and, and huge costs. we saw offshoring of entire industries. we did get a lot of cheap stuff, but but we've paid a really major price for it. and the question now is, are we happy with that decision or would we rather make a different trade off. and so if you're happy with how things have gone, if you think the cheap stuff from china is great, if you don't care whether we make things in america, then then you might be disappointed by by changing that. but if if you regret that decision, if you wish, we'd made a different one. if you want to see us, make a different one now, then i think it's entirely fair to be concerned about the costs that we're going to face in the short run. but but we have to think of those as an investment. and if we want to make a different choice and be on stronger footing for our economy for the long run, then it's an investment worth making. and we have to have that longer term view of of where we can get to.
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>> aside from from china, the white house is arguing that the trade deals with other countries are coming. take a listen to the director of the white house national economic council, kevin hassett, on cnbc this morning. secretary lutnick. >> and james greer are making progress with numerous countries. i think it's more than 20 now where we actually have hard offers on the table. i'm sure there will be news by the end of the day. >> so you don't. >> know if. >> it's who's first, if it's india or south korea or what's going on with japan. can you tease us? can you give us anything? >> can you dangle? >> i know, but i can't tease. no tease, no dangle. but. but do you believe that some of these deals are actually going to happen and soon, and they're going to be able to provide some economic relief? >> i certainly expect to see some deals happen. you know, in a sense, the best precedent for this is what ronald reagan did with japan. i guess almost two generations ago now, where where we had in japan a trading partner that was pursuing a strategy that just was not good for the united states. and in something like, you know, cars,
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we were seeing all of these low cost imports come in and we negotiated under the threat of tariffs. we made a deal. they decided to limit their exports to the united states. and they told honda and toyota, go set up shop in america instead. and that's where we got the tens of billions of dollars of investment, the hundreds of thousands of jobs in the american south, and now an entire auto industry there. so much so that the toyota camry has more american made content in it than than almost any american car. and so so i think those are the kinds of deals we should be looking for. and they they absolutely are plausible. they've they've happened before. >> i do want to get your reaction to what president trump said yesterday when asked about the state of the economy. take a listen. >> maybe the children will have two dolls instead of 30 dolls. you know, and maybe the two dolls will cost a couple of bucks more than they would normally. they have ships that are loaded up with stuff, much of which not all of it, but much
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of which we don't need. >> i don't know about you, orrin. i'm a connoisseur of new york post covers. this is a this is one in reaction to the two dolls instead of, 30 dolls. it's a skimp on the barbie. pretty clever. but i think one of the questions i have for you is, what about what president trump said? i mean, he you acknowledged disruption. he's acknowledged disruption. but there is real pain and fear. and is it really just $2 instead of $30? or are there the the changes you're talking about, aren't they. aren't they bigger than that? >> well, in a sense they're a lot less big than that. i mean, $2 instead of 30. would you know? you're talking about what, i guess a doll costing 15 times as much? i don't think that's the sort of effect that you're going to see. i think what you're going to see is that there will be certain areas where where we are extraordinarily dependent on china, and we don't have good substitutes. and so in the short run, you'll you'll either see prices on some of those things
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go up significantly. maybe a doll is one of them. but for the most part, what you're going to see is, first of all, businesses finding other ways to solve their problems, finding other sources of supply and also taking more seriously the, the option of u.s. sources of supply. and you're going to see consumers choosing among the options available to them, those options that aren't dependent on china. so if if one kind of doll only comes from china and there's a different dollar, a stuffed animal that that also comes from another country, you're you're not going to go from $30 to $2. you're going to go from just buying dolls to to maybe buying more of something else. and so i don't want to minimize, i think, as i said, there's certainly disruption here. there's certainly cost. but i think we have to do a better job of of asking, you know, which of these costs are, are there really any potentially catastrophic ones? and let's figure out how to anticipate and avoid those. but let's also accept that that some shift in
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overwhelming. and that victory and and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail. three years later, in his first week in office, president biden lifted that ban. just days after trump returned to the white house. he put his ban right back in place. the back and forth has left some battle ready service members on the sidelines, and cnn senior national correspondent m.j. lee spoke with two plaintiffs taking trump to court. >> do you. >> remember the first time you put this on? >> yeah, i do. >> this this particular one was at basic training. i was starting to think i was never going to get to wear this. and here i am. and especially now, you know, getting to to be a lieutenant and getting to wear my rank. i worked really hard for this. >> lieutenant nick. >> talbot waited. >> almost nine years to. >> enlist in the u.s. military. >> now he's the face of talbot versus trump, a lawsuit that could determine whether transgender individuals can be banned from serving in the
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military. >> i've deployed. >> before my. >> transition. >> during my transition. >> after my transition, my ability to meet the standards, to maintain my readiness and my deployability has never changed throughout this time period. >> for army major erica vandell, her 14 years as an active duty soldier now hang in the balance as she prepares for her next deployment to iraq and syria. talbot and vandell are among a group of transgender soldiers suing the trump administration. they could get an answer as soon as friday on whether the supreme court will allow president trump's ban to go into effect while the cases make their way through the lower courts. >> i used to be in the khalil, catherine. >> talbot began his transition from female to male as a teenager. >> this is from my mom's wedding. this is like probably like just shy of a year on hormones. at that point. >> in 2017, the first trump administration's ban on transgender service members upended talbot's plans to enlist. >> my phone just starts buzzing like crazy, and i'm not sure what's going on. and i remember my best friend jesse being on
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his phone and him saying, you know, hey, nick, i think we should probably pull over at this rest stop up here and maybe take a lunch break. you don't want to be driving when you hear this. i just kind of remember in that moment going, oh, my gosh, what am i going to do now? >> at the time, talbot had no choice but to put on hold his pursuit of enlisting. when the biden administration lifted trump's ban. he started trying again. talbot enlisted a year ago. and how did that feel? >> oh, obviously, i still get emotional talking about it. it was like the most incredible feeling ever. at that point, i'd been working for this for right around nine years. >> he's now a lieutenant in the army reserve, but doesn't know for how much longer because of trump's ban. >> to ensure that we have the most lethal fighting force in the world, we will get. transgender ideology the hell out of our military. it's going to be gone. >> get rid of all the die, all of the not transgender nonsense, all of the quotas. make this. >> if you want to have different
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standards, fine, but have different. >> standards for different jobs. >> the pentagon also said in a memo that the department only recognizes two sexes, male and female. an individual sex is immutable, unchanging during a person's life. the executive order says, quote, adoption of a gender identity inconsistent with an individual's sex, conflicts with a soldier's commitment to an honorable, truthful, and disciplined lifestyle, even in one's personal life. >> statements like that couldn't be farther from the truth. you know, i look in the mirror every day now and i go, yeah, this is like, this is the most nick talbot version we've ever had of nick talbot. it's just absolutely ridiculous to insinuate that trans folks and trans service members are, you know, going home and trying to pretend to be something that we're not. >> major vandals career is also in limbo. if tomorrow you got the news that you could no
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longer be in the military, what would that do to you? >> it would be devastating. >> born into a military family. vandal. commissioned in 2011 as a lieutenant after graduating from west point. she began her transition from male to female in 2021. was there anything you found physically more challenging after the transition? >> oh, sure. i think hormones can change a lot. i think there was definitely a reduction in muscle mass and everything associated with that. so you do have to work harder in that regard. >> after she transitioned, vandal says her military duties and responsibilities remain the same, but she found herself pushing harder. >> you kind of feel that need to prove that you do truly belong. so maybe you work that little bit extra or work that little bit harder just to just to prove you're still capable of meeting all the same expectations? >> you mean as a woman, you feel like you have to prove yourself more? >> yeah. and again, there's
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never been anything explicit associated with that. maybe it's just my own self expectations. >> so the doj is arguing without the supreme court taking action, the military will be forced to maintain a policy that it has determined, in its professional judgment, to be contrary to the military readiness and the nation's interests. what do you think about that? >> if anything, i think removing proven soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, proven leaders with very specific skill sets, would be wt'detrimental to the readiness of the military. there would be removing decades and decades of of training that's gone into these people, millions of dollars invested in these indivials, and they'd be remong it for no rson associated with their ability to do their jobmeet their standards.
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>> and jake talbott anvandal ea separateltold me that they're hing for e best, t also prepang forhe worst case scenario that they w't be able to serve anyre. and fosomebody like major vandal, you know, the emotions ade, there are huge practical implications. she's the sole breadwinr of her famil she and her wife and her two children live on base. their health care comes from hering t of sousearching because sh has never contemated dng anything professionally other than bng in the litary. >> molly, anks so much. appreciate it. cing up, questions you viewers are asking about new ump administration polici and the impact on the health care of children. we're paging
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>> the short answer is yes. >> there have been a lot of studies. i think what riggins probably. >> really getting. >> at is this thing that i. >> hear often. >> my kids getting a lot of vaccines. >> is it. >> too many vaccines? >> might it. >> overwhelm their immune system? >> i think. >> it's a. very fair question. i think it's led to some people either skipping vaccines or delaying them and spreading them out. bad idea. >> let me. >> give you some. >> context here. when we think about vaccines, you're essentially. >> presenting the body an. >> antigen with the hopes that the body will make antibodies to fight off diseases in the future. vaccines are essentially antigens. so i think what regan is asking. is how much antigen is there in these vaccines, and is it too much? take a look at this, jake. i think you'll find this interesting. you go back to the 1980s, 1990s, the. antigen load from the vaccines at that point for. eight diseases was about 3000. if you look at the. >> antigen load. >> now, despite the fact that many more diseases are vaccinated against, it's closer to 180. so just a little over 5%
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of what the antigen load used to be. in fact, smallpox alone, a vaccine that we used to give up until the early 1980s that had an antigen load of 200 by itself. so smallpox is a vaccine, had a larger antigenic load than all the vaccines combined. today, jake. >> jordan from new jersey says she has a three month old baby, their first. is it safe for them to travel nationally with regards to the measles, which is obviously spreading right now, why can't we vaccinate earlier? >> well, congratulations on your first baby. exciting times. two points i think about this. first of all, when it comes to someone who is three months old, if you were to give a vaccine, this measles vaccine, their immune system is not yet developed to generate those antibodies that we were just talking about. so it's not that it's a problem, it's just that it wouldn't be very effective to give a vaccine that early. that's that's the big concern. the second thing, though, i will tell you, is that for babies that are that young,
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oftentimes they still have antibodies that are actually that actually came from the mom during birth. so mom is actually transmitted antibodies. if the mom has immunity to measles, some of that protection may have gone to baby as well. so hopefully that provides some protection for the little one. >> and yesterday, sanjay, we talked about chronic conditions among children. keith in hibbing, minnesota, wants to know if it's possible to reverse a child's type two diabetes or if it's a lifelong management issue. >> yes. no. it is possible to reverse. i mean, that's that's it's good news as far as these things go. type one diabetes used to be considered juvenile onset diabetes. type two diabetes was considered adult onset because kids didn't really get type two diabetes. but now as we've seen more obesity, more other chronic diseases, as we're talking about, we're seeing type two diabetes in younger and younger people. that's the bad news. the good news is with lifestyle changes that cause these problems in the first
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place, if you reverse some of those, you could potentially reverse the disease as well. so, you know, type two is something that can absolutely be addressed. >> all right. good stuff. dr. sanjay gupta, thanks so much. appreciate it. next, we're going behind the scenes of president trump's shake up today. why trump is switching titles for mike waltz and expanding the portfolio of already quite busy secretary of state marco rubio. >> eva longoria searching for spain sunday at nine on cnn. >> oh. >> what is that. >> musty smell? >> oh. >> damp. >> damp. >> oh,. >> hey. >> language damper traps excess moisture to eliminate musty smells. get rid of the damp with damp. >> rid pronamel. >> clinical enamel strength can help us to keep our enamel for a lifetime. it's backed by science. it is clinically proven to strengthen our teeth. i would recommend this toothpaste to everybody. it's really an amazing product. >> our brains are incredible,
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safe, or could more be on their way out the door? plus, one of president trump's top economic advisers said there would be news about a trade deal by the end of the day. will it really be announced within the next six hours? which country is it with? how might this deal impact the prices you pay? also, the first of its kind ruling handed down by a judge today when it comes to the u.s. deporting alleged members of a venezuelan gang who are undocumented immigrants to this country, are reporters and legal experts are standing by to break that down and come along on a trip with cnn deep into the amazon rainforest, where some of the most remote communities in the world are getting access to the internet for the very first time. the lead. tonight, president trump has ousted mike waltz as his national security advisor, onlto turn aroundnd give him a new job as u.s. tions. cnn's kaitlan collin is at the white house for us. caitlin, tell us more. >> yeah, jake, obviously, a bit of musical chairs happening here