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>> tonight, musical chairs strikes the white house. mike waltz is knocked down. marco rubio takes on more. but democrats are saying it's actually pete hegseth who should be facing the music. plus, the judge telling trump, we're not at war, so you can't deport. the major ruling tonight that could upend his agenda. and later, what is up with bill belichick and his girlfriend and everyone talking about it? tonight on laura coates live. somedy else's ntact d then and tn somehow soone. >> sent you that it gets. >> sucked finding himself tting sucked in to another role, and marco
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rubio is filling the vacuum. it's thfirst big shakeup. shakeup of trump 2.0. and the shuffle came together so quick. it was cnn that informed the state department spokesperson of the actual change. >> the president has just written on truth social that mike waltz is going to become the new u.s. ambassador to the united nations. well, there you go. fabulous. and in addition to that, he says that in the interim secretary of state marco rubio will serve as national security advisor. >> it is clear that i just heard this from you. that is the miracle of modern technology and the social media. >> the miracle of modern technology and social media. but it's that very miracle that may be more of a curse for waltz, because the signal scandal is what helped fuel his downfall. at least his national security advisor. and he was spotted, you know, using the app just
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yesterday, a reporter snapped this picture during president trump's cabinet meeting. apparently, waltz didn't get trump's memo. weeks ago, even when he said it to his face in public in that very same cabinet room. >> it's equipment and technology that's not perfect. and probably he won't be using it again, at least not in the very near future. what do you think, sir? >> i agree with you. let's get everybody in the room. whenever, whenever possible. >> now, it wasn't just signal gate that led to his ouster. in that role. insiders say he had been on shaky ground for quite some time. >> this was a long time coming, and waltz never really gelled with the president and his team. there was tension with stephen miller, the homeland security advisor. he wasn't given the kind of responsibility that steve witkoff, the president's longtime friend and special envoy, was given over geopolitical issues. >> what i heard from some people
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in the white house is that chief of staff susie wiles felt that waltz was not treating her with respect. >> as far as influence in the trump administration goes. those are three names you probably don't want to cross, but vice president vance is trying to cast the change as a win for waltz. >> i think he can make a good argument that it's a promotion. but we brought mike on to do some serious reforms at the national security council. he has done that. we also thought that he'd make a better u.n. ambassador. as we get beyond this stage of the reforms that we've made to the national security council. >> but if that's the official line, well, here's the unofficial take from a senate republican. >> there's a family balance that a young, you know, a father of young kids has to have. you want to be there to raise your kids. and so i don't see it as a shakeup at all. i see it as a transition to still keep mike in an advisory position to the president.
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>> so is it because national security council reforms are done or more time with family? one thing is clear. democrats think it should have been hegseth who got the boot. >> i think they're holding the wrong guy accountable. >> it's the secretary of defense who bears responsibility for the gaping errors, the mistakes. >> mr. hegseth is the person who put the classified information on that text chain, who then also shared that classified information on a separate text chain involving his wife, for crying out loud. >> mike waltz will need to get confirmed by the senate, of course, to be the un ambassador, which means we could learn a lot more about what exactly happened with those group chats. but vice president vance says hegseth he has nothing to worry about. >> pete hegseth safe at defense secretary is are there other changes coming? >> well, again, i think certainly, yes. pete hegseth is safe. >> certainly. yes. is that
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enough comfort for hegseth because vance was saying this about walt and his team, as it was unfolding. >> president trump has said it on monday, on tuesday, on wednesday, on thursday. and i'm the vice president saying it here on friday. we are standing behind our entire national security team. >> with me now, cnn senior political commentator and former republican congressman adam kinzinger. adam, good to see you. let me first start with you on this point, because walt is going to the un. rubio temporarily moonlighting as the national security adviser. in addition, by the way, to his role as secretary of state, nothing to sneeze at for either. what are your thoughts on this kind of plot twist? >> well, look, he's acting. rubio is like acting archivist now. and usaid director as well. look, you know, the crazy thing in watching the montage, there's not a single one of the soundbites you showed where anybody was telling the truth. i mean, i just this is why i at a
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loss for watching this and being like, literally, i did not see a single soundbite where i could trust what the people were saying was true. like, america is going to get sick of that. well, anyway, so my point on this is this. look, i don't think i don't think walt was was kicked out because of signal gate. i mean, maybe he maybe that was part of it. the only reason it would be part of it is because maybe it embarrassed donald trump, not because trump has any real concern with the with the security of it. and look, trump said yes, maybe he shouldn't use signal anymore. but if you notice in the picture from reuters, he had been texting with every other member of the cabinet using signal still. so obviously there's been nothing that's gone out. that said, don't use signal, guys. i think what it comes down to is this three weeks ago or so, laura loomer went to the white house and argued against mike waltz and his national security team in front of the president. mike waltz was reduced to begging for his job to the president against laura loomer.
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>> i want to play this. hold on. i want people to see what you're talking about. we actually have that sound. listen. >> i didn't go in there trying to get him fired. i was just making the point that i'm a trump loyalist. i never said that, donald. i never campaigned against trump. mike waltz was working with a pac that was trying to actively campaign against donald trump in 2016. so my point was, is mike waltz is not going to have the same standard of loyalty that i have because he himself was a trump hater. >> i mean, loomer is taking a kind of victory lap with a one word rejoinder. what do you make of her apparent influence? >> i mean, look, it's real. i mean, look, by the way, there's not a single person really, that's close to trump. now, that was not i mean, jd vance opposed donald trump in 16. marco rubio ran against him in 16 and made fun of his hands and his makeup. like, so the idea that laura loomer is going to go there and say, well, mike waltz didn't like you in 2016 and no
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laura loomer, for whatever reason, is really close to trump. he loves these influencers. these like influencers that have baggage. and so this what happened? she goes there, she she takes him down in front of the president. and i literally the day that happened, i said, it's just a matter of time. it really is just a matter of time. they can try to spin this and say, this is a promotion. it's not a promotion, it's a huge demotion. and look, from my mike waltz perspective, you know, i knew him obviously in congress. i was shocked that he became a big trump fan because he he knows better. and i hope i hope it was worth it. i mean, for months, you can say you were in a say i guess now. >> well, i have to wonder what is going to be the impact. this is not just the idea of musical chairs. we're talking about where someone gets a new title. we're talking about the national security of our country. he had the advisory role in that position. there are very serious conflicts happening abroad. what does this change from mike waltz to now? an interim of marco rubio? what impact will it have
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on our national security? >> i think look, put on my analysis hat. i think the change will be no different than what it was, because really, and i'm not saying this like to be egregious or mean, but like donald trump believes he is the smartest guy in the room. and, i mean, i've been in meetings with him talking about, like, syria, for instance. he'll listen to what you have to say, but he ultimately thinks he's the wisest. and so i think under donald trump, the national security council probably doesn't have much of a role anyway. so i think rubio coming, he'll probably be in that position for a few months and they're ultimately going to replace him. it could be somebody like rick grenell, god forbid, or, you know, any of these other names that are passed around. i don't think rubio will stay there. this all seemed to have happened last minute, so rubio seemed to make sense. let's put him in there while we figure out who's going to be the next national security advisor, who will be fired in six months after that. >> i mean, he does have another job he's doing right now. that's not a low key role as well. but, you know, the reward for hard work in washington, i
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guess, is more work. adam kinzinger, thank you so much. >> you bet. >> i want to bring in former senior adviser to the trump campaign, brian lanza, and former obama white house senior director nayyera haq. good to have both of you. i mean, look, the idea of a promotion demotion, brian, how do you see it? is this a punishment for waltz or recognition or something else? or is this an elevation? >> yeah. i think at the end of the day, if you ask somebody, you know, where do you want to be? you want to be closest to the president, right? and it's not new york. so i look at it this way as a step down for him. but, you know, this is what happens. you signal gate caused you caused all these issues. bad interviews after bad interviews. you know, we all knew at the time that it was it was that there was an expiration date. that expiration date was today. >> talk to me. you've been in state department before and you've had a great career overall, talking about all the different things you've done. the impact of secretary of state also, now having this hat and other hats. what does that look like realistically?
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>> so i've worked in senior positions at the state department and at the un, and i can tell you that nobody wants to go from d.c. and suddenly be the un ambassador, unless you're a staffer or somebody who's looking maybe one day to then be national security advisor. >> but stefanik wanted that role, and they didn't elevate that. >> member of congress. right. so big deal to be elevated from a member of congress and mike waltz was to national security advisor. and the challenge he had is that a lot of the policies he was advocating for greater support for ukraine, for example, he you know, the criticism of our against the drawdown in afghanistan and critiques of how that was handled went against the prevailing policy of the trump administration right now. so there's a bit of a disconnect, policy wise, too. but in in that building, you really need a clear sense of who is in charge and what the directives are. and you saw when marco rubio was sitting there with donald trump and vladimir zelenskyy, that it was very clear trump and jd vance are the ones running foreign policy. and, you know, secretary rubio was just kind of sitting there. he was literally leaning back, taking that back
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seat. and when he was brought into office, all of the funding that he could have used, the humanitarian funding, the soft power that was also eliminated with usaid. so you have this guy now who has three really important positions and none of the levers to actually get other countries to do anything. >> well, respond to what former congressman kinzinger had to say about this being essentially, maybe the start of attrition rates, the start of a revolving door we saw in the trump administration. there were a lot of turnover. does this signal to you this is the beginning of that, or is this very specific to you? >> i think it's very specific. i mean, this was you know, what happened a month ago was an unforced error, and it became a big distraction, a big distraction. and then and then it sucked in more people in this unforced error. i think i truly think, you know, the people that i talk to, we always felt that there was an expiration date. we thought it was going to be at the end of summer. it just happened to be sooner. you know, i don't think you would look at me the first term to now, you know, the biggest thing we hear is leaks. they just don't exist like they used to. and that's what created a lot of the animosity and contempt in the
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white house. and that's what you feel. people are stabbing each other. you don't get any of that right now. so from this standpoint, it's just an unforced error. and the administration looks like they're here to stay for a while. >> the challenges that you see right. there's so much leaking and controversy coming out of the pentagon itself. and so now you have mike waltz who has to go through a confirmation. and then you still, you know, secretary hegseth is still facing challenges. >> well, should he be the one who is removed? why is it waltz? well. >> because waltz in theory, is the guy who added the reporter, which is what revealed this to the public. so apparently the transparency was more of an issue for the white house, and that this came to light rather than the fact that classified information was being shared by the secretary of defense in very casual circumstances, including with people who are not at the same clearance level. so secretary hegseth and this is not the first time he's also fired most of his front office. so he's actually really underwater right now and is the one who needs the rescue. >> so should hegseth be worried? >> no, i think he's fine. listen, i think we all knew. you know. >> we got in a very certain way, in the same way that vance said it about, say, mike waltz. and we just heard from president
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trump, what, two days ago when he was asked the question, are you do you have 100% confidence in in pete hegseth? he was saying, i don't have that confidence in anything. i'd be a fool to say that. why do you have such confidence about it? >> because. because if you if you look at what took. >> place with waltz, it was that signal, you know, being in the cabinet room, like he's becoming a meme in that, like, that's you'd think he'd learn his lesson, but he's not. he's sort of made himself worse. hegseth just, you know, he's he's he's bunkering down in the pentagon. he has some people that are working for him. he's trying to execute. he's doing the recruiting numbers that matter. he's selling the image of being, you know, a warrior soldier, what they're doing. i think he's hitting those marks. and then you also have the deputy secretary who's doing it. feinberg, who's doing an amazing, amazing job. so i get the criticism, but that criticism is not bothering the president. the the president actually thinks he's doing a good job. that's the number one issue, which is recruitment. >> and that's the key thing is that it doesn't bother president trump. right. what what pete hegseth is doing, whether it be harmful to the force in terms of the changing of different services and service stars and
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people getting fired randomly, or concerns about whether or not women will be allowed to be in combat or changing rules about gender and sexuality discrimination, like all of that, is part of the social agenda that president trump wants to see. and at the that they want to see. and the challenge we see now is that national security is secondary to some of that social reengineering. >> so do you have why are you laughing.? >> to hear democrats talk about the defense being social engineered by republicans seems very silly to me, since they're the ones who broke this glass, what, three decades ago? >> yes, exactly. the civil rights era. >> the democrats want to. >> do is literally. >> military, when all we need them to. >> do is somebody. so as somebody who has actually worked at the pentagon and the pentagon front office, let me tell you that it is a proud fact that the u.s. military has always been at the forefront of advancing rights for americans, knowing that 40% of the force draws from either the lower socioeconomic classes or minorities in america. right. we have been that that comes from civil rights and integrating black
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people, allowing women in combat, recognizing that soldiers actually, at the end of the day, don't care who somebody else wants to sleep with as long as they can shoot straight. so the don't ask, don't tell is overturned. and the recruitment challenge that we're having now is something that we found unique to this administration and this era of having to serve in multiple wars and trying tdraw them down. >> i'm just going to disagr. >> oh, well, tre you go. yea i'll put a fine point on that. you can disagree, brian. thank you both so much. up next, it's one of the biggest court rulings to go against the president. his whole premise of deportations under the alien enemies act now ruled as unlawful. so how did the trump appointed judge reach that conclusion? you know, i'm going to explain. plus, supreme court justice ketanji brown jackson with a rare message tonight about all those hostile calls to impeach judges.
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now, cnn legal analyst and white house correspondent for the pbs newshour, laura, also here, vice president of immigration policy at forward, u.s., andrea flores, welcome to both of you here. andrea, let me ask you, because in the ruling, the judge really picked apart the administration's premise that tren de aragua is some sort of an invasion as a military force in some way that would allow them to then use this wartime act. how significant will this ruling be? >> i think it's really significant and it's overdue, quite frankly, because since march, president trump has been able to get away with basically saying that all venezuelan migration in the last four years actually equaled an invasion by a foreign government. he has not had to actually prove that. and when you look at the numbers of venezuelans who migrated, right, it was a hemispheric crisis. it was the biggest recorded refugee crisis in this hemisphere. it was not an orchestration by the venezuelan government. so that's just factual. so it was a relief to see a judge step in and really question his use of a
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wartime authority. and hopefully, you know, you'll hear congress also support this judge, because at the end of the day, these judges are being challenged in these orders. but this is a clear ruling on the merits. and i imagine it goes to the supreme court. i think. >> it certainly will go to the supreme court, undoubtedly. but for people who may be thinking, well, this is a recent thing that trump has been doing with the aliens act. he's actually been talking about this as part of his overall plan for quite some time, including on the campaign trail. i want you to listen to what he had to say. >> the alien enemies act of 1798. see how far back we have to go. because they didn't play games back then. can you imagine? we have to go back to 1798. that's when they ran a country a little tougher, i guess, to expedite removals of tren de aragua and other savage gangs, i will invoke the alien enemies act of 1798. can you believe that? we couldn't have an act like that now, because now everything's woke.
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>> well, this is all on the campaign trail, of course. and the judges are deciding the issue as of today and in the year 2025 and beyond. but he has other mechanisms to try to enforce immigration policy. but he is choosing to use this. and the courts are saying this is not the mechanism. why is he persisting, do you think? >> because if he were using it, and if the courts were to go along with it, saying it is lawful or that it is allowed, it would be a faster mechanism for him to be able to deport a mass amount of people, specifically venezuelan nationals, because it's a tren de aragua venezuelan gang. and so that's who, you know, to reach his deportation numbers, the president is looking for other mechanisms, ones that have not been used in the way that he's using them, or the way that they've been used in the past. alien enemies has only ever been used during wartime, and actual wartime authority. and, you know, one thing that's striking about the judge's ruling today, i thought, was when he says that the president does not possess the lawful authority to not just
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detain venezuelan aliens, but also he cannot transfer them within the united states. and that part stuck out because of the fact that there was some speculation that the supreme court decided to rule in last minute, saying, you cannot deport these venezuelan nationals from this specific part of texas because there was a concern that the administration was trying to find a loophole, essentially move some venezuelans from one detention center to another detention center, so that way they could deport them to el salvador. and this judge today is saying you do not have the authority to even transfer them within the united states, that your entire use of this law is not accurate. >> and also, moving around to go around the due process that's owed to everyone in this entire proceeding. i want to play for you all what vice president jd vance had to say tonight about how he thinks this will ultimately end up. >> first of all, the judge doesn't make that determination. whether the alien enemies act can be deployed. i think the president of the united states is the one who determines whether this country
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is being invaded. and under the biden administration, it was. we're aggressively appealing this stuff. we do think that the higher appeals courts, and in particular, the supreme court, is going to recognize immigration enforcement is a core function of the president of the united states. if you tell the president he's not allowed to deport illegal criminals, then you're telling the president he's not allowed to be the president. we reject that. >> well, the supreme court see it the way the vice president does. >> i just don't think so. i think any lawyer understands that the immigration system provides multiple legal ways for this administration to deport people who might be threats to public safety or national security. but immigration law and our criminal justice system requires proof. it requires due process. they want to use alien enemies. exactly. for what? laura said. they want to have a rapid mechanism to not have to follow any other existing law. they want to suspend and do an emergency power that's really dangerous. you saw them do this in the first administration, right? they used public health law to suspend immigration to the united states. now they're going to wartime authorities.
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and as you said earlier, you know, he talked about this on the campaign, but he really set this out on day one. ande all of migrandersidented. and den was an invasion. b u do not authority, and you do not need leave these over 200 people stranded in a salvadian prison. i don't ink people realize this one poi, which many of them were ally already in aetention center, and they want the public to believe that they were a danger. they were already being detained. they just transferred, transferred them to a much worse foreign prison where the conditions can't be monitored. so it's it's it's really being dishonest. >> as the president said, they're due a process, not necessarily the due process. quickly, laura, on the numbers game. he wants people to believe that he's meeting the metrics he laid out early in his administration. he's not. >> he's not i mean, tom homan, his borders are has even said that they aren't reaching the numbers that they want to. and that's why you're also seeing them restrict legal immigration heavily because and also take away and revoke student visas and different legal status for
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immigrants who are here legally. and that's because it's all in an effort to reach deportation numbers. they've launched an aggressive self-deportation campaign, encouraging immigrants to self-deport and other immigration lawyers i've talked to say that they're, you know, that they think that that is all with the goal of not just getting undocumented immigrants to self-deport, but also legal immigrants to be scared and to then self-deport. and that's how they could reach their numbers. >> laura. andrea, thank you so much. both of you. up next, beto o'rourke leading a protest against trump in alabama, airing out plenty of critique against the administration. and yes, even his own party. >> and you're sick and tired of our national party focusing on the blue wall states half a world away when the real fight is here in alabama. i am glad that you are here as well. >> is beto's plan. well, i'm going to ask him next.
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literally. >> we are the last and the best hope for this country, just as this country remains the last and the best hope for this earth. what we do right now, at this moment of truth for america, will forever define our future, our fate, and our fortune as a country. so, alabama, no pressure, but we cannot this one up. are you with me on that? >> that was texas democrat beto o'rourke at the tide against trump rally tonight, held by the university of alabama college democrats not too far down the road from where president trump was delivering a commencement address and he didn't care to take on the president in deep red alabama because he says democrats need to, quote, organize everywhere. you'll recall that beto last lost his last two races in texas for senate and also governor. that has not stopped him from coming to his party's aid in their moment of need. beto o'rourke joins me now. congressman, thank you for being here. i mean,
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we've been seeing protests. we've been seeing democrats holding town halls. which do you think is more effective, and what is it accomplishing? >> everything all at once. fight on every single front. you know, trump right now is as weak as a president can be. but he's masquerading as a strongman. this blizzard of executive orders this worldwide so-called reciprocal tariff. that's just absolutely devastating. the american economy. these weird, strange ideas like consuming canada as the 51st state or invading greenland or panama. we can puncture that veil of invincibility or inevitability by rising up. and that's what people in tuscaloosa, alabama, did today. and look, it's one thing when you do this in the typical places that democrats or folks who are opposed to trump congregate, and i think we should do it in those places. but it's another thing altogether to do it in places like alabama or mississippi or
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texas, where i'm from. i mean, that's where the fight is. that's where he's hurting people more than anywhere else. cutting health care in alabama, cutting education funding in alabama, cutting access to the v.a. in alabama and in the cradle of modern american democracy right here in alabama, attacking voting rights and adding more voter suppression and voter intimidation. we have to fight back and we have to do it now. we cannot wait until 2026. >> you've talked often about the idea of a larger tent or the big tent party, and trying to envelop people who normally would not be maybe considered to vote in the way that you'd like. but this is one mechanism. and you spoke at that rally tonight in a state that trump won by nearly 30 points. and in doing so, you also took aim at your own party, saying that they're too focused on blue wall swing states and not red states. so how do you get democrats to change their approach? >> you know, by 2032, after this next census, the democratic nominee could win every single blue wall state. but if they
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don't start winning the sunbelt states like texas, they're not going to win the white house. so we've got to start investing and organizing and registering and mobilizing voters today in 2025. if we want to win in 2026 and 2028 and 2030 and 2032, you know, democrats have a problem where we show up literally in the election year, republicans, and we can learn something from them, have patiently and persistently built power from the bottom up for decades. and, look, it is really working. so let's learn how to do that. and we're doing that with powered by people in texas. but let's also show up in the moment. and so when trump goes to tuscaloosa and the students at the university of alabama invite me to be there, that's the easiest yes i've ever given. >> well, a recent cnn poll, to your larger point found that the approval rating of democratic leaders in congress, it sits at just 27%. yet the dnc vice chair, david hogg, who wants to primary what he calls
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ineffective democrats. and then you had james carville, who had this to say to him, listen. >> i think it is abominable that an official of a political party who is being paid or supported by that political party to go out and raise money to defeat members of the same party. i think that's a of the highest level. when elections win elections, you see, against republicans, don't do i? let me finish. okay. let me finish. you are my strategy. it is to win elections. it's not to win an election in queens. >> does he have a point? >> you know what? it's interesting. i think carville and hogg have made amends, and they agree that we need to fight right now. i don't think that the decision is whether we need to be more moderate or protect older members, or have newer members in the decision. is a binary one. are we going to fight or are we going to surrender? and the people of this country want to see us fight, not just fight against donald trump, but to fight for
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them and to replace his cruelty, his incompetence and his corruption with service that delivers for every single american, no matter where you are, including right here in tuscaloosa, alabama. so to answer your question, laura, if we've got folks who are in these seats who aren't fighting, who aren't getting the job done, who aren't presenting the opposition that we need at this moment, they need to get out of the way or they need to be primaried out of the way. and we need to replace them with fighters who are going to show up, win big elections and take power back, not just for democrats, but for this country. >> really quick, give me a name. who leads the democratic party today? >> i'll tell you what, i love the people who are out there. i love that bernie's out there, that aoc is out there, that tim walz is out there. and even more than them, these university of alabama students who didn't wait for direction from dc, didn't ask a political leader to tell them what to do. it's everyday american people who are rising up right now. the power is with people. that's how we're going to win this country back.
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>> a lot of cooks in that kitchen. beto o'rourke thank you so much. >> thank you laura. >> all right. picture this. you own a toy store. it's been in your family for decades. and now you're thinking that this trade war means you may not have any toys to sell come christmas. so what do you do? well, my next guest is living that real life business nightmare, and she'll share it with us next. >> the biggest festival of the year is now extended. cnn underscored deals fest. it's your last chance for exclusive deals in home, beauty, cooking and more. cnn underscore deals fest shop now at underscore .com slash fest twitter. >> that's a great name. >> no one could possibly have understood where it was going. >> twitter. breaking the bird now streaming on max. >> you know what they say. you
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>> from fiction to reality, that's what my next guest is. warning. she's a toy store owner in new york city, and she says by christmas she might not be in business anymore. why? because of trump's trade war. because get this nearly 80% of toys sold in this country are manufactured. where in china? jennifer bergmann, the owner of westside kids, joins me now. jennifer, welcome. i want to understand the trouble you are having obtaining products for your store. can you explain? >> yeah. hi, laura, thanks so much for having me. yes, absolutely. i am getting emails and phone calls from vendors daily saying
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things for the fall. prices are going up. but yeah, so there are a lot of vendors that are already saying our supply chains are already really slowing down. >> well, talk to me about the price. hypothetically, if a toy costs $10, what would the final price tag be with the tariff surcharge? >> well, if we actually got if we actually applied the 145% tariff on a $10 product, the the tariff itself would be $14.50 on a $10 product, which would make the cost of that product 2450. so it would more than double the price of the toy. so that would be reflected in retail and it would be between the least you could you could sell it for is $35. if not, and the most would be about $48. and that's for a simple toy. >> for a $10 toy. i mean, i understand that you h attorney thinking about what this could lead to. how bad is it for you right now? ean, they right now? knowthis coulcould go on for we're hoping that that something will change soon. if it doesn't, we many of us will just close. we won't have anything on our shelves to sell. >> one of the things the president said yesterday was a kind of less is more approach, that maybe kids will have $2 instead of 30, and they'll just about his response and tone? >> well, first of all, most children don't have $30. they usually have 1 or 2. so not having two dolls is is is a really big deal. and the parents that really can barely afford a $20 doll certainly can't afford
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to buy a $48 doll. so the child won't get two dolls, it won't get any dolls, and even if they can afford it, there may not be any dolls on the shelf. >> you say that you are fighting these tariffs and that president trump has set a fire under you specifically. talk to me about this. what would you say to him if he were listening to you tonight? >> what i would say is you are hurting the american people. you are hurting your citizens. this is not a war with china. these tariffs are being paid by us, by the people that vote for people for for the, you know, for elected officials in this country. and we are all going to be out of work. the entire supply chain will be out of work because of these tariffs that you are saying are punishing china when they are punishing all of us. so rethink your policies. >> jennifer bergman, thank you so much. i hope he's listening. it's always important to hear the voice of people who are truly impacted. thank you. >> thank you. laura. >> well, next, the internet's newest obsession. bill belichick and his girlfriend. and of
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on retirement. you know what that calls for. hot topic sports edition. joining me now fox sports analyst rachel nichols one of our favorites. good to have you here rachel. i got to start with what everyone is talking about, that cbs bill belichick interview. i want to play the viral moments. that's gotten a lot. well of pushback. listen to this. >> you have jordan right over there. everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship. they've got an opinion about your private life. it's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it. how do you deal with that? >> i've never been too worried about what everybody else thinks. just try to do what i feel like is best for me and what's right. >> how did you guys meet? >> not talking about this. >> no. >> no, no. >> apparently not. what's going on here? how do you see this? >> look, this has been the talk of the sports world. i've had bill belichick's former players texting me, being like, what is happening? i mean, i've sat in hundreds of press conferences
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with this man. you cannot get a colorful anecdote out of him to save your life. and now he is posing for pictures with his 24 year old girlfriend, and she's in a mermaid outfit, and he's like a fisherman reeling her in. i mean, there's some insane photos going around, and the behavior you see here is really something that brings up this control issue, right? is she controlling the narrative here? is she controlling him at all? and for a guy who has been so famously in control for his whole career, that is what is so jarring. what we know about her so far is she's 24. she was a college cheerleader. she has her cosmetology license. her dad is only 48 years old. bill belichick, by the way, is in his 70s, and he is a fisherman who lost his business. his. jordan's mom has a sex shop and museum on cape cod. so this story just gets more interesting every time you look at it. and apparently it's going to keep going because there she is out there. >> oh, people aren't stopping talking about this at all, particularly knowing how belichick, i mean, presents himself to the world to the
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football experience. but i do wonder, are people being condescending about this man? is he just living his life? and that now we're invested in the gossipy aspects of it, or is there some genuine cause for concern that people are sharing with you? >> i mean, look, if he was doing this privately, i think that would be one thing. but he himself and she herself has very much made this a public topic of conversation. bill belichick was married for basically 30 years. we never heard from his wife. we never saw photos. we never knew what was going on there. then he had a different girlfriend for about 15 years. and laura, she was only 20 something years younger than him. so, you know, appropriate. and now we have someone who's about 50 years younger than him, and we have these photos out there, and she's not only a part of these interviews like you just showed, but she's at practice with him. so they are putting this out there for discussion, and people are discussing it. >> look, belichick responded at one point with the statement through unc, of course, where he coaches saying in part the
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interview quote presented presents selectively edited clips and stills from just a few minutes of the interview to suggest a false narrative that jordan was attempting to control the conversation, which is simply not true. but then it gets interesting. cbs hit back with their own statement, rachel saying, quote, there were no preconditions or limitations to this conversation, and that it was confirmed repeatedly. so what do you think? was this a fair cut? who do you believe? >> well, i've never seen bill belichick speak the way that he spoke in that statement. so i don't know if the unc public relations staff put that together. i don't know if jordan put that together, but that is not the kind of sentence flow i have ever heard from him and covering him for decades. so, you know, you know how it is with interviews. laura, you've done plenty. there is sometimes some remorse afterward. and again, she is 24. she's very much running his businesses. she is running his pr, she is not a seasoned pro at this, and this was clearly a bit of an error to do all of this in front of the cameras. and we'll see where she
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goes from here. >> we'll see. because people are going to still talk about this. i want to talk to you about lebron as well. shifting gears, different sport, different vibe entirely. after the lakers lost yesterday, he said this when asked how many more years we will get to see him play. >> i don't know the answer to that right now to be honest. so let me see. >> i mean, he limped off the court yesterday, but he didn't say no. is the door cracked open? >> oh, i think it definitely is. i was there yesterday in the room for that press conference. look, lebron always says this these days. at the end of the year he's 40 years old. he finally got to play with his son. this year as you and i have talked about. so there was an idea that maybe this would be his last season. and then the lakers traded for luka doncic, who is considered a generational 26 year old superstar. and that is going to extend lebron's career if he wants it, perhaps not just to next year, but the following year when his other son, bryce, will be eligible to
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play in the nba. lebron's wife, savannah, has already said she hopes he plays for two more years so he can play with bryce. so you know look we hear lebron at the end of seasons these days a little bit of that lethal weapon danny murtaugh i'm too old for this stuff. but he tends to relax after a couple of weeks. get into basketball again. and last night he was already starting to sort of detox from things. he was seen at a restaurant in beverly hills here until four in the morning, sipping some wine and, you know, getting a little separation from the loss. and i would think that he would be back. i would certainly put my money on that one. >> i mean, well-deserved break. and of course, him at 40 is better than some 16 year olds. frankly, in terms of everything else. so i'm. hey, rachel nichols. nice to talk to you. >> excellent. see you soon, laura. >> hey, before we go tonight, be sure to check out eva longoria cross country culinary adventure in spain this week. she explores andalusia, the birthplace of tapas eva longoria searching for spain airs sunday at 9 p.m. only
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right here on cnn. hey, thank you all for watching. anderson cooper 360 is next. >> tonight on 360, the president had four national security advisers in his first term. now he's on his second. this time around. mike waltz was just shown the door. and j.d. vance says waltz's new position would be a promotion. also tonight, a trump appointed judge lays down the law on deportation, saying the president cannot use wartime authority during peacetime to remove people from the country. >> how the community where it's happening is reacting. good evening. thanks for joining us. president trump's first national security advisor in his first term lasted 22 days. so by that standard, president trump's first national security advisor in his second term, mike waltz, has lasted a long time. but today, after just passing the 100 day mark, he was removed along with his deputy. now, the president says mr. waltz will be

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