>> a cnn special event on june 7th, a landmark television event for the first time ever, broadway goes live on television. george clooney and the five time tony nominated good night and good luck one night only live on cnn and streaming live on max. >> standoff, a victory for president trump's agenda as the house speaker squeezes through

tax and spending cuts. >> the bill. >> is passed, but senate republicans say not so fast. >> we're a long ways from the finish line. >> the big beautiful deal i think that's the titanic. >> will concerns about the fallout stall trump's big, beautiful bill? speaker of the house mike johnson is next. and then senator ron johnson responds live and update trump abruptly threatens new tariffs that could sink your next upgrade. >> i'm not looking for a deal. >> more economic uncertainty as trump expands his political targets. >> the american people deserve a lot better. >> than this. >> is it bluster or just the beginning? democratic senator michael bennet responds ahead. plus, honoring the fallen more than 80 years later. >> we. >> lower our heads in gratitude and respect. >> how american troops from world war ii are finally getting a burial worthy of their sacrifice. hello, i'm jake tapper in washington, d.c., where the state of our union is thinking about those who died to protect us on this memorial day

weekend. thank you for joining us. president trump marked the holiday with a speech saturday to new graduates of west point, an institution his administration has worked to change drastically and dramatically in his first few months in office, just part of a larger cultural shift led by the president, who this week targeted harvard and columbia universities. and frankly, he is just getting started. but mr. trump did get his own party to toe the line this week with a big victory for his agenda in the house of representatives. more than a year ago, house speaker mike johnson began to map out the legislation that would become what trump calls his big, beautiful bill a tax cut and spending cut legislation he and the president, johnson and the president pushed it through a divided, tiny republican majority, some of whom represent swing districts and who were concerned that the cuts to the social safety net, like medicaid and snap, were too deep. others who thought that they were not nearly deep enough, and that this legislation will grow the debt in the end. speaker johnson pushed the bill through by one

single vote. now it heads to the u.s. senate, where republicans concerns about the bill and its political fallout may be even steeper. and joining me now is the speaker of the house of representatives, mike johnson of louisiana. speaker johnson, thanks so much for joining us. republican senators have made it clear that they want to make some changes to the house bill, senate majority leader john thune told cnn. the senate's going to write its own bill, even though they have a larger majority than you do. what is your message to your colleagues in the senate? thanks, jake. >> great to be with you. look, i've. >> been very consistent. >> with our colleagues in the senate. we've worked hand in glove with them all through this process, remembering that. >> the house. >> began this more than a year ago. it was march of last year when we got our committee chairs together and told them to begin to prepare for this massive reconciliation package. we believed at that time, more than a year ago, that we would win the white house's senate in the house and have unified government and have this really once in a generation opportunity

to do so much in one piece of legislation. so i met with the senate republicans, all my colleagues over there last week on tuesday at their weekly luncheon. and i, i encouraged them, you know, to to do their work, of course, as we all anticipate, but to make as few modifications to this package as possible, because remembering that we've got to pass it one more time to ratify their changes in the house. and i have a very delicate balance here, a very delicate equilibrium that we've reached over a long period of time. and it's best not to meddle with it too much. >> let's talk about what the legislation actually does. i want to play something that you said back in january about the national debt. >> the number. one threat to our nation right now is our debt. we take that very seriously. congress has kicked the can down the road for decades, and we're out of road. and so we understand that it's our responsibility to fix this. >> so there are five different independent scorers of this legislation. every one of them says that it will increase the deficit somewhere between 3.3

and $4 trillion over the next ten years. now i get you take issue with the congressional budget office and that they don't have dynamic scoring all of this, but this is the emergency emerging consensus among everyone analyng. they say you're kicking. not only are you kiing the can down the road, but u' makg the problem rse. you're adding to the debt. >> well, i think that is dramatically overstated. and here's why. everyone can. those same groups can objectively see and acknowledge that this is the largest cut in spending in at least 30 years, and arguably of all time, we're cutting over $1.5 trillion in federal spending while we check all the boxes and bring about a pro-growth economy. and the cbo has been panned because, as you said, they don't do dynamic scoring. what that means is they don't account for the growth that will be fostered by all the policies that are in this, this, this big piece of legislation. this is not theoretical, jake. just remember the last trump

administration, after the first two years, we brought about the greatest economy in the history of the world, not just the u.s. the growth was off the charts. it was an average of about 3%, a growth in gdp. why? because we cut taxes. we cut regulations. we're doing the same thing this time around. but on steroids. this is a much larger package, a much more robust package with all these features that will really get the economy going because wages will rise. job creators, entrepreneurs, risk takers will have more ability to expand their businesses. u.s. manufacturing onshore is being incentivized. all these things will work together to make the economy grow faster than most any of these. these projections are are putting forth. so we're not buying it. we'll see what happens. and we have the evidence to prove it from the past. >> so the cbo doesn't get a vote. but my next guest, republican senator ron johnson of wisconsin, does. and he wrote in the wall street journal, quote, the one big, beautiful bill will almost certainly add to our deficits and debt. and he even called the bill the titanic. what do you say to him?

>> look, i love ron johnson. he's a dear friend. and he and i agree on our philosophy. we're limited government conservatives. we want to limit the size and scope of the government and make it work more efficiently and effectively. my my my response to him, and we've spoken about this over recent months, is that we're doing the best we can with the vote numbers that we have. in other words, we've got to turn this aircraft carrier. you don't turn an aircraft carrier on a dime. it takes a mile of open ocean to do it. and it took us decades to get in this financial situation. we can't just flip a switch and get out of it overnight. one of the people that that my friend ron johnson really respects is russ vought, who directs the office of management and budget. and russ is a big champion for this piece of legislation. he calls it historic, and he's a fiscal hawk, and so am i. so we're doing as much as we can. and i just encourage ron to remember, you know, in our in the house, we have 220 republicans, a wide range of perspectives and a wide range of districts represented. and i've got to get to 217 votes to get

this thing over the line. so as much as we can and as big increment as we can, i think we've achieved that here. and i just want them to remember that we've got to deal within the realm of what's possible. >> so in addition to people like senator johnson, who think this bill doesn't do enough to to cut spending, you're going to have to convince people like susan collins of maine and josh hawley of missouri, who are worried about cuts that this bill proposes. president trump repeatedly insisted he would not touch medicaid and that americans would not lose their insurance. here's what he said just five days ago. >> we're not changing medicaid and we're not changing medicare, and we're not changing social security. and can you guarantee. >> that your voters who supported you, the election, particularly working class voters, will not lose health insurance under this bill? >> they won't lose health insurance. >> the cbo found that nearly 8 million americans will, in fact, lose their insurance coverage because of the changes this bill makes to medicaid. so how do you reconcile that with what president trump said?

>> it's directly in line with what the president said. i've said the same. we are not cutting medicaid in this package. there's a lot of misinformation out there about this, jake. the numbers of americans who are affected are those that are entwined in our work to eliminate fraud, waste and abuse. and what i mean, what do i mean by that? you got more than 1.4 million illegal aliens on medicaid. medicaid is not intended for non-u.s. citizens. it's intended for the most vulnerable populations of americans, which is pregnant women and young single mothers, the disabled, the elderly. they are protected in what we're doing because we're preserving the resources for those who need it most. you're talking about 4.8 million able bodied workers, young men, for example, who are on medicaid and not working. they are choosing not to work when they can. that is called fraud. they are cheating the system. when you root out those kinds of abuses, you save the resources that are so desperately needed by the people who deserve it and need it most. that's what we're doing, and that's why this is a the

morality of what we're doing here is precisely right, and it comports with all the public opinion polls. when people ask whether young men, for example, who are able bodied and have no dependents should be working, everybody says yes, and that's what our package does. so these estimates that you're hearing are accurate, but it's dealing with those numbers of people in the population. and that's going to make the preserve the program and strengthen it for those who need it most. >> so 1.4 million people in your home state of louisiana are on medicaid, more than 800,000 receive snap benefits, also known as food stamps. is it your contention that if any of those louisianans lose their benefits, it's because they shouldn't have been receiving them because they were committing waste, fraud or abuse? >> yeah. look, my district is every district in america has people who are on the program who shouldn't. and when you're talking about i keep using this example, a young, able bodied man with no dependents. there's no reason he should not be

working. we are the party about that. that supports human dignity, and we find purpose and dignity in our work. it's good for the individuals involved. it's good for their community. it's good for society at large. when you're talking about work requirements, by the way, it's very flexible. it just means that you either work or you volunteer or do something meaningful in your community, or you're in a job or a work training program 20 hours a week. i mean, this is not some huge demand. if you're going to be on the public wagon, you have to do something to help pull it. if you're able. and again, jake, the purpose of this is to preserve these very necessary, very important safety net programs for the people who actually need and deserve them, and not those who are gaming the system. and i think i'll go into any town hall anywhere in america, my district or otherwise, and explain this. and everyone nods in agreement and understands it. so the democrats are trying to twist the facts. they're trying to put out misinformation because they're going to vote against this, and there's no way to defend it. what it means is they're going to be voting for more fraud, waste and abuse instead of the

elimination of it, which is what our package does. >> it's not just democrats, though, right? i mean, there are voices in maga world sounding the alarm that cuts to medicaid could really impact trump's own supporters. take a listen. >> medicaid. you got to be careful. >> because a lot of maga on medicaid, i'm. >> telling you. >> if you. >> don't think so. >> you are. >> dead wrong. just can't. >> take a meat. >> ax to it. although i would. >> love to. >> this is. >> real medicaid benefit cuts. >> i can't support that. no republican. >> should support that. we're the party of the working class. >> we need to act like it. >> that was steve bannon and senator josh hawley of missouri. what what is your response to them? >> yeah, look, i don't disagree with that. of course, there's lots of people on medicaid in our party and and others. but again, if they look at the final package and the details of what has come through the house, i think we reached the right point. and, jake, it also brings up the very important point that we're trying to do this on a very aggressive timetable. the reason i tried to get this done, and we did get it done before

memorial day and send it to the senate, is so the president can be signing this into law by independence day on july 4th. why is that so important? because we've got to get relief to the american people, and that we also need to, for political purposes, show give a lot of time, enough time for everyone to see that this package actually is what we say. it's going to help the country, it's going to help the economy. it's going to help all boats to rise, just as we did after the first two years of the first trump administration. and so we're anxious to get this signed into law so people feel it and see it before that midterm election, and they understand it is the republicans who are doing the best for hard americans, low income families and everyone who deserves a better shot. >> i want to ask you about something else. president trump held a closed door event thursday night for top investors in his private cryptocurrency. we do not know who was there. the list has not been released. we do not know how much of the money came from outside the country. the president has, of course, a huge role to play when it comes to regulations regulating crypto. i really have

a difficult time imagining that if this was a democratic president doing the exact same thing, you wouldn't be outraged. >> well, look, i don't know anything about the dinner. i was a little busy this past week, as you know, getting the reconciliation package over the line. and so i'm not going to comment on something i haven't even heard about. i'm not sure who was there or what the purpose was, but i'll say this. president trump is very active. he's very engaged. he's the greatest dealmaker one of the greatest dealmakers of all time. he is working on these trade imbalances that we've had and having tremendous success. we've got over 75 countries now renegotiating their trade agreements with america. it's going to make it better for all of us, everybody in the country. and he is encouraging new technologies, crypto and the advancement of a.i. he's he's appointed a czar for the first time. we have an a.i. czar in david sachs, who's an expert in the industry from silicon valley. there's a lot of exciting things happening. the president is trying to encourage that along as much as he can. and i think the vast majority of the country is applauding those

efforts. so i'm one of them. i think the result of all this is going to be extraordinary for everybody in the country. >> you oversaw, as speaker, a congressional investigation into president biden's ties to his son. hunter's questionable business dealings to enrich him. you seem to think it was your responsibility to look into this sort of thing. then. >> yeah. jake, the important distinction, the biden crime family, as they were named, earned that that title. why? because they used shell companies, fake llcs series of what appeared to be money laundering operations and and hunter biden, of course, with his his his his difficult past and his the corruption in his past, the family on the public dole or on the the president's dole. you know, the president lied about his involvement in the business dealings, all of that. the evidence just piled up. and, by the way, at the same time, the evidence of his diminished mental capacity, subject of your book, of course, i wish it had been published a

year earlier because everybody saw it, everybody saw what was happening. he used the auto pen. and by the way, there's investigations right now going on in the house. jamie comer and the oversight committee, or will be investigating the use of the autopen when the president's mental capacity declined and whether all those things are even legally valid. now, given the the obvious fact that he was not the one making the decisions, it's a huge implications from all this. and so i think the american people had a reason to doubt, and we had great reason, and i think a responsibility to investigate those things. the the difference, of course, is that president trump does everything out in the open. he's not trying to hide anything. there's no shell companies or fake llcs or fake family businesses. he's he's putting it out there so everybody can evaluate for themselves. >> on the book. i wish the more than 200 people that talked to me and alex thompson, my my coauthor after election day, i sure wish that they had talked to us a year ago. i agree with you on that. but on this matter with the crypto, shouldn't we at least just know who was at the dinner? wouldn't you want to

know that list of people? >> i guess i mean, again, i don't i don't know anything about that dinner. i do know that president trump is the most transparent president in the most transparent administration, probably in history. he has nothing to hide. and he's out there trying to advance america's interests. that's what america first policies are all about. and that's what our big reconciliation bill will deliver for the people. we're really proud of the product. >> mr. speaker, i know you have a lot of military veterans and gold star famili in yo coressional district. i know ur son is at annapolis. i wish you a aningf and peaful so much for beinwith us today. thank you. >> same to you, my friend. god bless. >> so that was speak johnson's message for the senate. my next gut is a will jn me to respond. and have a plan.kay. whais it? stayith us.

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debt? >> well, first of all. >> let me say i have nothing but respect for speaker johnson. i understand and sympathize with the challenge he has. i have nothing but support for what president trump is trying to do. i love the way he's acting boldly and swiftly, decisively to fix the enormous messes left by the biden administration. so from my standpoint, this is a budget reconciliation process. so we ought to talk about numbers. one of my disappointments with what the house process is about, the only number we ever heard about was 1.5 trillion, which sounds like a lot, but it's only $150 billion per year. and this is put in context of the fact that in 2019 we spent 4.4 trillion this year will spend over $7 trillion. $150 billion on. that is basically a rounding error. you're talking about need to get serious about this. so we need to establish well we need to establish goals. listen this is the weekend. we honor the service and sacrifice of the finest among us. you know, more than a million that died defend

this nation. i don't think they. i don't think they served in sacrifice to leave our children completely mortgaged. their future and their prospects diminished because of it. so we need to be responsible. the first goal of our budget reconciliation process should be to reduce the deficit. this actually increases. let me describe the mess. president obama averaged about $910 billion of deficits per year. president trump in his first three years averaged about 810. then covid hit over $3 trillion in deficit. it should have ended there. we should have immediately returned to a pre-pandemic level spending. but president biden averaged $1.9 trillion in deficits over his four years. and according to cbo, those deficits now averaged $2.2 trillion. over the next ten years, we'll add $22 trillion. and i'm sorry, the house bill would probably add, i've calculated 4 trillion. you're saying you have these independent analysts saying it's 3.3 to 4 trillion. i agree with that. we have to reduce the deficit. and so we need we need

to focus on spending spending, spending. so what you don't defeat the deep state by funding it. >> right. so what changes are you going to push for in this bill when the senate takes it up? you want to make $6 trillion in spending cuts over the next decade. you say just for comparison, that's the equivalent of almost the entire federal budget from last year. here's where all that money went last year. we're just holding up a chart. you already know the percentages here of how much is going to social security, medicare and medicaid, the pentagon, and on and on. where would you make cuts? >> well, first of all, you take a different approach. you don't start at $7 trillion with completely unjustified level spending, and then subject yourself to death by a thousand cuts. you start with a reasonable pre-pandemic level spending. you've heard people talk about zero based budgeting. i'm talking about a budget of 5.5 to 6.5 trillion. those are options from clinton, obama and trump, where you just take their actual outlays, plus them up by population growth and inflation,

leaving social security, medicare and interest untouched. that would leave you somewhere between 5.5 and $6.5 trillion. so you start there, but you have to do the work and you need the time to do the work. i have to believe when you go through $7,000 billion of spending, if you go by it line by line, like doge has done, you will find hundreds of billions of dollars. and i've proven this in terms of where the spending occurs, hundreds of billions of dollars of spending. if you eliminate, no one would even notice it other than the grifters who are sucking down the waste, fraud and abuse. >> so president trump has suggested. >> you got to do the work. >> yeah. president trump has suggested that the debt is not really top of mind of his concerns. he wants republicans to fall in line. he wants republicans to pass the bill. you told cnn, quote, somebody's got to be the dad that says, i know you all want to go to disney world, but we can't afford it. i guess i'm going to be that guy, unquote. so how determined are you to be that guy? if it actually means telling president trump you are

going to vote against the bill, and you're going to try to get other republican senators to join you, unless there are major, major changes. >> well, in 2010, i sprang out of the tea party movement, and as i did parades, my i would shout, this is a fight for freedom. we are mortgaging our children's future. it's wrong. it's immoral. it has to stop. i haven't changed my campaign promise in 2010, and every campaign after that was to stop mortgaging our children's future. it's immoral. it's wrong. it has to stop. and so he may not be worried about that. i'm extremely worried about that. that is my primary goal running for for congress. this is our moment. we've witnessed an unprecedented level of increased spending, 58% since 2019. other than world war two. this is this is our only chance to reset that to a reasonable pre-pandemic level of spending. and again, i think you can do it in the spending that we would eliminate. people wouldn't even notice. but you have to do the

work, which takes time. that's probably the process. the problem here is we've rushed this process. we haven't taken the time. we've done the same old way, exempt most programs. take a look at a couple, tweak them a little bit, try and rely on cbo score and then have that score completely out of context with anything that really we ought to be talking about, like the $22 trillion of additional deficit over the next ten years. >> so we're out of time. but i'm just wondering if you could just give me a number, how many other republican senators do you think share your concerns and are willing to make work to make major changes to this bill? >> i think we have enough to start the process until the president gets serious about spending reduction and reducing the deficit. >> senator ron johnson, always a pleasure. thank you so much for being here, and i hope you have a peaceful and meaningful memorial day. >> you too. >> my next guest is a democratic senator running for governor of a purple state. is the democratic brand a draw or a drag? senator michael bennet of

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mecaid, and it's going to dre a lot of the providers t of business. it's going to make it impossibleor people that live a very long way from denver to be ae to g health care for their kids. and i hope we are ablto stop it. but if we can' if the 53 republicans in the senate insist oramming it tough, the american people are going to know who owns this piece of legislation. >> so you just heard speaker johnson say that i cited the cbo figure tt 8 million people are gog to baffected by these should n be on medicaid. he who said it's more than a million people who arendocumented immigrts, heaid it's able bodi males who coulde working but are not. you say that that's not true. huh? >> it's not true. look, i before was in the senate, i was a hool supintendt. st of the kids were kids living in povert theirarents were working two and three job the issue is not that they

weren't working. it's thatven though they they they were working, they couldn't get their kids out of porty because our economy hasn't been working well enough for working people and for the middle class. the same is true in e rural lking out, that are being served by the hospitals. a by t way, it's not just about medicaid. i d a conversation the other day with just last week with a woman who's graduated from western in gunnis, colorado, who said, i'm gointo be my parents it really true that i'm going to ve to have 2 or 3 jobsust for the privile of paying for health insur? that is crazy, jake. anthat ithe heth today, that ump going to ma worse. democratshould be figuri out not just how to st tuts, but to gi the american people a vision for at a modern heth care system at looks like e rest of e industrialized world would lk like for the arican people, because these cisions that

we're going to make really do in the end, 'not about the rhetoric ospeakehnson. it's about how it'going to affect people in theiraily lives. a i'm sorry to say, th bill is going to affe >> so you annoced. >> in a negative. >> w, you nounced last mon that you're goingo run r governor of corado, a decisi that y say is driven by your frustration with coness and, frany, with democratic leershipi just wonder, given yourarty's rerd low polarityight n, does the mocratic brand help you or hurt you even in a pple, purple blue state like colorado? >> i d't think it i don't think nationally, the mocrat brand helps very much anyway. i mean, anywhere, if it did, we wouldn't haveost to donald trumtwice. you know, i know a lot of supports of mine and friends of mine are furious at donald trump. i am are furious at people they think aren't standing up, up enough, standing up enough to donald trump. i am,

but i'm also furious that the democratic party that has lost twice to trump, donald trump, cod not get appoted to any job in the state of colora. he ow, 17th street,hich is our colorado. but h's been sent to washington twice to blow the things, peop are sick of what they see athe self-interested partanship there. i think ey're sk of a democratic ow how we're going to addrs an economy where the middle class contues to shrink and where, where, where,here over the last 20 years, we've acally lost ground in tes of, u knowe acevement oukids in school. we need to address those thgs. so i think it's very important for us to that trumpepresents and the chaos that hrepresents, and at there were a lot of people that ved for him for a reason, and that's cause they wanted

to blow up washington,c. they're noturprisedy his corruption. that's that that that's sort of a ratification of who he is. and we need to show people something fferent. i see reason why colorado america to raise a kid, d for gornor here, because it's importt to colorado. but think it's al impornt to have that sitive visiofor our country. >> thank youo much, senar bennet. good to see you, sir. i hope you have a meaningful and peaceful memorial day with you, with your ly. >> you too. ank you. jak >> some of america's fallen service members buried overss undethe wrong maer. well, nothere's an effort to change that. that story is ne. >> can't fo myself. >>t was the most exciting time in the world. >> his life had. >> extremely joyful moments. >> and some really difficult moments. >> you only me across an artist like luther vandross ce in a lifetime.

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>> faith in each other. >> and on this day, families of three soldiers traveled to italy from the u.s. to honor their sacrifice. >> today. >> we are setting. >> the historical. >> record straight. >> we will give them the marker that is appropriate for their faith. >> more than 80 years after they died, correct. inadvertent errors. burial beneath latin crosses instead of jewish stars. >> we're all here. >> in some way to honor. >> those who have rested here. >> for all of these. >> many years under. >> an incorrect. >> identity. >> all thanks to the nonprofit operation benjamin, which works with the american battle monuments commission. shalom lamm is chief historian. many of. the servicemen who are buried under crosses, even though they're jewish, it's because they didn't want to show that they were jewish on their dog tags, right? >> there was a. >> real. >> fear of being captured. and if you were captured by. >> the germans. >> in particular, that was reallyrifying.

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>> i mea now ty are here giving their uncle a oper burial. this is the gravesite of second lieutenantheldon fender, who was shot dn and killed on august 16th, 1943, during world was jewi, an'laid to here, he rest beneath a jewish star well, the only other person to die in that very same mission was also the onlother jew in that mission. h's der a cross that's going to change. >>n ath. >> they are. >> nine feet apart in fe. there were three feet apar one was the navigator, one was the of. behalf. . >> the. >> members of your. >> family. on behalf of. we welcome. people. >> you home.

>> your cousin paul singer. >> died 82. >> years ago. and h's en under a cross until toy. >> what it. >>hat did it mean to y to be here and to be a part of the ceremony to honor his jewish faith? >> we are. >> very committed. >> jews, so special. to have something from your religion that's now and that's connected families. he was orphaned at 16. he was an only child, right? it's prably why it took so long to have this changed, right? because they. i'm sure theye tryi to contact these nts of his. buight. they didn't. >> you know. >> there wasn't any other family. so it's nice to be able to be here. and represent the family, to be able to do this. sheldon fender's family feels the same way. so this is your uncle? >> it's my uncle sheldon >> i have a great. >> picture of. >> my father and my uncle.

>> as children. >> did your dad talk about him? >> very little. >> very little. >> i feel like by. bng here today, i honor. his quiet grieving for his entire life. >> until now, there was never a proper funeral. >> no,s. >> a matter of fact, i don't think anyone in my entire. >> family has ever been here before. >> thewo families met here i italy for the first time. i knew the name and i knew he was buried here. didn't he was buried this close. but then to meet them is really incredible. >> it puts a. >> lot of meaning. >> to this whole experience. >> that it's nojust about one person, it's about all of these individuals. >> headstones in military cemeteries can only be changed with approval from soldiers families. shalom lamm does the research. >> we're required. oof. >> to dever to the amerin bale. >> monuments commission. >> is really huge.t's really. >> tough and it ould btough. we' changinsomethg. >> for eternity. >>he sto from e cross

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