responded to help those who were hurt, and to our nhs staff treating them in hospital. we are working very closely with merseyside police to support their investigation and with other relevant organizations to make sure those affected get the appropriate support. i would appeal for people. please do not share the horrifying footage of the incident on social media. please, if you have any information, forward it to merseyside police to help them with their investigation. we won't be commenting any further but we will provide relevant updates as and when we know more and it's appropriate to do so. once again, our hearts go out to all of those affected. liverpool is a city that has a proud history of coming together and supporting each other during challenging times. i have no doubt that will again be the case over the coming days and weeks. thank you. thank you.

>> this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome to the lead. i'm phil mattingly in for jake tapper. we begin with what you were just watching this hour. the breaking news in our world lead. you've been listening to the u.k. police giving an update. at least 27 people have been hospitalized after a man drove a car into a crowd of people during liverpool football club's victory parade. let's go straight to cnn's max foster. max, new information throughout the course of that press conference. what did we just learn? >> well, we've learned that this happened right at the end of the parade, about 6:00, a car going into the crowd. still not clear why that was all. we know that it was a 53 year old white british male and 27 people were injured. two of them seriously. four of the injured were children. sadly, one of the seriously injured is a child as

well. just speaks to this wonderful celebration for this city. almost a global event because liverpool is followed all over the world. they had this massive championship success. the day was just finishing and a car somehow ends up in the crowd. that is still a mystery. phil, we have no idea how a car managed to get into the crowd, but we're going to get some more information, i'm sure, as the investigation unfolds. what the police are very clear on is they don't want all of this speculation online. they've seen how with previous incidents, that's blown up beyond any sort of understanding. and there have been more incidents that follow. so that's why they're emphasizing this was a right white british man. but he hasn't been charged yet as far as we know. so still no sense of exactly why he did it, why this car went into the crowd. >> yeah. max, what? they haven't said makes very clear they don't want speculation. but what they are saying does make very clear what they think

right now. i think on some level, which is not being investigated as terrorism, they are not seeking additional suspects or persons of interest. this was an isolated incident according to what they were just saying. what are witnesses saying about what they actually saw? >> well, i think everyone is completely baffled about why it was there. and there's absolute horror stories about what was happening at the time. there's lots of video coming out and like the police were trying to verify all of it, but there were thousands along that street. there were hundreds of thousands, basically around the parade in central liverpool. along that street, there were tens of thousands. so this was just a horrific scene and no one knew what was going on. it felt very chaotic. and of course, you know, with the history of things that have happened around the world recently with vehicles, particularly here in europe, there was complete panic about this being some sort of attack. so a massive relief to people that this isn't being investigated as terrorism. and that's a very clear signal because they would you know, they as you know, phil, if they weren't sure it wasn't terrorism, they wouldn't be

saying it right now. the anti-terror police would be called in automatically at the beginning, and they've already been stood down. so there's some mysterious reason why this car was in the crowd and quite how it was allowed into a pedestrianized area at that time is going to be a huge topic of debate here over the next 24 hours and onwards. >> no question about that. max foster, great reporting as always. thanks so much. let's discuss now with juliette kayyem, former assistant secretary for the department homeland security, and steve moore, retired fbi supervisory special agent. juliette, police just said incidents are not being treated as terrorism. what does it tell you about what they could actually be investigating here? >> yes. >> it was. >> very clear at. the outset. a horrific incident. fortunately, so far, no casualties. when the british call something a major incident they are. >> and this is. >> the language. that they were using. >> that is for people. >> in. >> my field has very. >> specific meaning. it means. >> it is not terrorism related. it means. >> a response that. is outside.

>> standard operating. >> procedure, sort of a mega event incident in which you're going to have to surge resources but. >> does not. >> entail a. terrorism nexus. at least. >> that's what they think this day. so from the beginning, they were setting the stage. they they. >> mentioned what. >> his. >> race was. >> that he. >> was white just. to temper any. speculation about. people's concerns about previous. >> terror incidents. obviously using. >> vehicles in europe. >> and they also. said that that there was no other links to anyone else. and eventually, essentially, the investigation is over except for understanding his motive. so that was very much scene setting for for obvious reasons, because this is a horrible incident. no reason to whip everyone up into thinking it was a different kind of horrible incident. >> you know, steve, i think anybody who has been paying attention to anything like this over the course of the last several years, i know you and

juliette certainly have immediately thought the worst in this type of situation, in terms of the intent or what the motive was. the police very quickly seemed to figure out that this was an isolated incident. what's the process in that? >> well, the. >> process very quickly is. >> is. >> you have to know. >> what you're dealing with, whether. >> there are going. >> to be follow ons. >> whether. >> as they. >> said there was going to be this was going to be. >> an isolated. >> incident or not. >> and so. >> really. >> what you're trying. >> to do in. >> in just. >> the shortest amount of time humanly possible is to get the driver, the driver to a place where you can talk to them, get some kind of indication of their motive. are they distraught? are they saying what happened? i don't know, the car just accelerated on me? or are they saying defiant things or angry things? so. so that is the first thing you have to do when you are fortunate enough to have this suspect right then and there and you know, in this case, it seems that they're not they're not ruling out that

this was a crime. they're just saying it wasn't a crime. that was directed, excuse me, towards social or political change, which means it could be a hate crime. it could be any other type of crime. but they're ruling out terror, so they they apparently have some kind of scope on this. >> juliette, there are a lot of things, a lot of questions we're going to be asking. but i want to also ask you guys in a second about how a car could actually get into a crowd like this, but i actually want to give credit where it's due in terms of response time here and what was described in that press conference we just heard. because i think if you've seen the videos, which are absolutely horrifying and you've heard what witnesses are saying the fact that it was a mass casualty event, it was horrifying. at this point, there were no deaths. obviously. they said there were two in the hospital that are seriously injured. one of those is a children is a child, four children in total. among the 27 that were taken to the hospital. but we just heard one of the officials described that they had to lift up the car

and take four people out from underneath the car, including one of the children. the response time here. what you saw, what you heard from emergency officials. what did it tell you? >> so it's it's a really hard thing to talk about in our field because obviously, anyone who gets hurt is that is that is a tragedy. but if you have 27 hospitalized and no one dead yet. and i saw those pictures today, i, like you, have been on standby for several hours anticipating something much worse. and that has to go to response time. in other words, you're sort of judging success in in something like this. once something bad happens, by how quick you can get people to hospitals, triage their injuries, focus on on survivability, and then knowing that they're already harmed. it's it's, you know, this is

not good news, but in some ways, the fact that you were able to have an incident like this and then get to the triage of the hospital, we don't know how many hospitals they were taken to around the area. that only happens. that isn't luck, that isn't liverpool luck. that is because of the extensive training that was going on. so at the press conference, what you before this the press conference, you heard one of the officials say, here's where we were pre-positioned. here's where we were planning. here's where we were practicing and drilling for the potential for a mega event. or incident and we will find out why this loophole, like, what happened here, was it because it was at the end of the parade? it was later in the in the evening when things start, when public safety starts to withdraw. but you're exactly right, phil. it is i saw those pictures, too. we should not be posting them. they're pretty horrific. and i'm pleasantly surprised, which i rarely am.

that that we have numbers like this right now, and it's just a hard thing to say, but it is true. >> yeah. and i just want to make crystal clear because i asked the question. nobody's diminishing or minimizing the horror of what happened or the individuals who are taking the the reason why i'm asking is because, again, what we saw, but also what was described in that press conference. it's very notable because we're going to spend a lot of time trying to figure out how this actually happened. and it seems somewhat miraculous what they have described up to this point in terms of their reaction. and, steve, when it comes to the how this happened, i just the equivalent for the audience who doesn't necessarily follow the epl or know what liverpool football club is, it's when a championship team in philadelphia or new york wins and this is their celebration parade. it's hundreds of thousands of people you can see it in the pictures. how does a car get in there? >> yeah, well i think juliet said it, very, very succinctly. there was this was at the end of the parade. this was at a time where status of of the inner and

outer perimeters were actually changing. when you have a static situation and your inner and outer perimeters are set, or even your three perimeters are set, they know what their job is. they know what they're doing, and they're in a static position. any time the situation changes, saying we're shutting down or we are changing or we have a moving perimeter with the with the busses themselves, those things add. complication and complication and vulnerability. and you could have had a situation. and i'm not alleging this, but you could have had a situation where an outer perimeter might have heard, oh, it's past here. and it's we're done with this section. and they started releasing vehicles. i'm not sure that would have happened because there was only one there. either way, you're going to have to do a hot wash or debrief and find out exactly where this car was. was it in the perimeter to begin with? there's all sorts of

information out there from cameras and witnesses, and they're just going to deconstruct how this thing was allowed to happen. but, yeah, i mean, i just came last year, went to the dodgers world series parade and the inner and the outer perimeters, the barriers they had set up were very elaborate. >> yeah, yeah, there are certainly a lot of questions that still need to be answered. always appreciate your guys perspective. juliette kayyem steve moore, thanks so much. >> thanks. >> well, coming up, president trump has made yet another threat in his standoff against harvard university. hint it involves taking away a large sum of money. >> george clooney and broadway's good night and good luck live june 7th on cnn. go. >> friends gather. kiki. chris. >> jason. >> hold on to your. >> dice. >> nice frosting. crack. thank you. >> how are we doing, kiki?

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1st deadline. kristen holmes is at the white house for us. kristen. walk us through where we're actually at right now. >> well, trade negotiations between the eu and the u.s. are back in full swing, which kind of makes you wonder if that was the point of these threats to begin with to get the ball rolling. we know that the eu's trade commissioner spoke on the phone today to secretary of commerce howard lutnick, who is effectively in control of about half of the countries that they are doing trade deals with. secretary of treasury scott bessent is in charge of the other half. now, the trade commissioner described it as a quote, good call, but this is the part that really matters. he said that the eu was fully committed to constructive and focused efforts at pace towards a deal, because part of the complaints that we've been hearing from the white house was that the eu was moving too slowly. and in fact, when donald trump suggested these 50% tariffs to start on june 1st, he said it was because discussions were going nowhere and the bloc of nations was, quote, very difficult to work with. now, of course, we know that this delay came after trump got a call from the president of the european

union, and he said that they asked for this extension to july 9th. the head of the european union said they wanted that extension to reach a, quote, good deal. clearly knowing their audience there and trying to ask for that extension, we will see how this goes. obviously, all of this creates a volatility in the market, but we know donald trump himself has used these tariffs time and time again to kind of leverage the united states and trying to get them other countries to do what he wants them to do. so clearly, in this case, if the effort was to try and get the ball moving, he was successful in trying to threaten with those 50% tariffs. >> and we all got to have a lot of fun for 48 hours along the way. kristen is from the north lawn of the white house. thanks so much. well, here to discuss all of this. marc short, former chief of staff to vice president mike pence. mark your view on tariffs is where republicans were for decades. not so much anymore. you also had a view inside the white house in terms of how the president thinks through processes like this. it is difficult to divine what's meant as a threat, what's meant

just blowing off steam and what people should take very, very seriously because he's deployed all three. this administration. what does that do for foreign counterparts? >> well, i think first. >> i. >> think it. >> has a tremendous cooling effect on the american economy. i do think he used tariffs as leverage during the first administration as well on steel, on aluminum, but principally to, i think, rally the globe against china. i think the approach this administration has been so universal in where he's alleging the tariffs, that it does have a cooling effect. >> on. >> the economy. i think it hurts the same blue collar workers that that i think helped propel him to victory. there's a story in the wall street journal today about all the port workers out in california who are now getting laid off, the truckers who are getting laid off. a lot of the logistics people who i think were predominantly trump voters, who are now losing their jobs because of this trade war across the globe. >> i think. >> also, phil, you know, if it's 50% on eu, that's actually higher than it is on communist china. now that he's put forward. so i think there's

also a weakening about what his position is on china as opposed to isolating china. you're now alleging tariffs higher on the european union. that has been our ally in looking to isolate china. you have a higher tariff on on on you than you do on china. and as you know, the president has refused to enforce the law on tiktok. so it certainly seems like it's a pretty weak approach to china right now. >> it is difficult again to understand kind of the through line sometimes because you talk to administration, economic officials and they've kind of made this slowly move their way into like, hey, we're going to start isolating them because we're working with our indo-pacific partners. and then something like this happens. one of the things though, i want to i really wanted to ask you about this, because in 2017, you and i spent a lot of late nights in the capitol on the tax cuts and jobs act. you were inside the room. i was waiting in a hallway outside. you were kind enough to stop and talk on the way out. you dealt with the senate. you dealt with senator ron johnson in particular on this bill. how does how does this needle get thread here on the big beautiful bill? >> well, on the tax.

>> bill, i think i think we continue to underestimate mike johnson generally. i mean, how much of the narrative was that he'd be hard to get him reelected speaker, that he would have a hard time avoiding a government shutdown, that he wouldn't get this tax bill through. and i think he's he's proven to be an incredibly effective speaker of the house. the 215 to 214 margin in the house, though, i think shows how little margin there actually is to change this bill. the senate's prerogative always is to want to not accept what the house sends. and so the senate will do their thing. the question i think at the end of the day, phil, is does it actually go to conference and come out more like the house bill, or do they whittle this down? looks more like the house bill coming out of the senate too. you're right. there were plenty of senators in 2017. it wasn't just ron johnson, there was jeff flake, there was bob corker. there were plenty of republicans who were had their own peace of mind about what the tax bill should be. that's the nature of the senate. and that's the play that ron johnson is playing right now. but the math is not there to change this bill significantly in the house. >> it's a hair's standing on the back of my neck. passthroughs with ron johnson deficit neutral with bob corker. up to that

point, though, i'm trying to think, what do you think the president's role is in getting this across the finish line? because i actually agree and i think it's underappreciated. mike johnson's ability like 5 or 6 consecutive really, really tough votes. and he's cleared every single hurdle up to this point. but he's going to need the president in the senate. >> he will. and i think i think the senate will work its way for the next probably couple months, i think probably before the august recess is when the president should probably lean in a little bit heavier and try and push republican senators to get on board. i do think that right now, the president still has enormous support among primary voters, since that gives them enormous leverage where i think he's been bleeding support is probably among independent voters. but i think as long as he continues that strong support among primary voters, he can get his way in the senate. >> deficit neutrality was something steven mnuchin talked about constantly. i don't necessarily know that the studies have totally borne that out with the 2017 law. there's some people would dispute that. i don't think the numbers do, though. the idea here, adding this much to the deficit on the tax cut side, spending cut side, about a $1.8 trillion is significant. but the bond rket is clearly aittle unsettle

rit now.hat do you make of that? >> well, i tnk one, the cbo had underestimed enormously what the tax revenue would be. they've underestimated by trillions of dollars. and so i'm the camp that really does not really think th we shouldut all o eggs in the far as forecas i think the s bond market actuly began to get wobbly during the trade battle, and i think it's exnded into some of the tax battle. but i think much othis rely began during thtrade backnd forth. and think at remains a concern as far as how far the president can go with this trade war he's fighting. >> why do you think it remains a concern, mark? >> you saw how. >> they reacted. >> you saw how they quickly reacted. >> to it. marsha, i really appreciate. >> you coming in. thanks so much. >> well, at a time when president trump is making new threats against harvard, a high profile government official has made a rather pointed remark about the importance of american universities. how might that be going over? we'll have it next. >> this is cnn, the world's news network. >> after challenges, you bounce

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morning, president trump continued his attacks on harvard university. his latest threat president posted on truth social that he may take, quote, $3 billion of grant money away from very anti-semitic harvard and giving it t to trade schools al across the land. in another post, the president slammed the university for not handing over a list of foreign students that he demanded last week, posting, quote, harvard is very slow in the presentation of these documents, and probably for good reason. but have no fear, the government will, in the end, win. this comes after harvard sued the trump administration over the department of homeland security that tried to revoke its ability to enroll international students. a federal judge has temporarily halted that ban. here to discuss this and more is our panel. thank you both for being here. let's start with you. in light of the escalating attacks on harvard, i want to play something from federal reserve chair jerome powell. he said at princeton university yesterday. >> our great universities. >> are the. >> envy of the world. >> and a crucial national.

>> asset. >> look around. >> you. >> and i. >> urge. >> you to take none of this for. >> granted. >> when you look back. >> in 50 years, you will want to. >> know that you've. done whatever. >> it takes to. >> preserve and strengthen our democracy and bring us ever closer to the founders. >> timeless ideals. >> put the lighting aside there, which is. ominous. the fed chair has no stranger to tangling with with the president, but those comments were pretty obvious in terms of intent. what do you make of them? >> i mean. >> i agree that institutions like harvard are certainly a beacon of what america has to offer. >> i'm not. necessarily against having. >> some foreign students attend the university. i'm concerned about the number of chinese students. >> i don't want to educate our adversary. >> that's a. >> separate conversation. however, taking $3 billion. >> away and. >> appropriating that. >> money for. >> trade, that would absolutely benefit way more americans than the number of americans who attend ivy league institutions such as harvard. and i would say the president's overall argument

in general. you think about this from this perspective. harvard led in, i believe, 27% of its total population is foreign students. about 1 in 4. now, if you were to decrease that, you open up potential slots for a lot of underprivileged individuals. and i'm not just talking about black kids here. i'm talking about any ethnicity hispanic, underprivileged, white, underprivileged. you would be given an opportunity to attend an institution such as harvard because they have the intellectual faculties, but they don't let in a lot of underprivileged students. so i think there is a legitimate argument to make. can you make more room for more americans compared to the foreign students that we've made room for? >> that is a more thorough argument than i've seen the president make. and the trade school. i don't think anybody disagrees on the trade schools and trying to redirect funding towards trade schools has been something bipartisan administrations have tried to do over the course of the last decade or two. i'm just interested from michael's point, how do you think that tracks with what's happening right now? >> well, he makes a good point, but. >> it belies something that's totally incorrect. >> of the large.

>> percentage of that, 27% of international. students who attend harvard university at any given. >> point, the overwhelming majority are for. >> grad school. >> this is not students who are. undergraduate at all. they're talking about graduate school admissions. so we're talking. >> about those at the harvard kennedy school, for. >> instance. >> studying government. >> we're talking about. >> those largely at the school of medicine. who are your next innovators when it comes to breakthroughs in cancer research and things like that? those students aren't moving towards trade schools. they're not making the decision between going to a harvard graduate school versus going to a trade school. >> those are two. >> very different tracks. we're not talking about undergraduate enrollment at all. and that's where donald trump gets it incorrect. the secondary thing is i don't think anybody has a problem with expanding trade schools and ensuring that students have options. >> there is. >> a pathway, and there should be a pathway regardless of whether you choose the four year track. >> the two. >> year track or certification track. i worked. >> at. >> city college of chicago for a while. >> i believe heavily. >> in trade schools, apprenticeships and the necessary means of getting students into in-demand careers that do not require four year college degrees or the debt that comes along with them. but i

think that those are two very different arguments to be made, because, again, that 27%, we're talking about graduate students. these are students who have already received an undergraduate education, many for those international students actually receive that undergrad education from schools abroad, from their home nations, in the same way that american students will go to the london school of economics or go to the university of cambridge or any place else. largely that's for graduate education and the process of employment post-grad for them. that is not the same as undergraduate students, which harvard still has a high percentage of american students. they do the. undergraduate. >> you know. >> i love amicia and amicia, and i have had these conversations for years and years and years about education, because this is this is something that she specializes in. shloves it. shhas a huge passion in . the dichoty here, though, i think is fascinati. donald trump has shifted the argunt. having democrats etially have to defend elitism whi republicans pear, at least for the general public, to be saying, we're on the side of th working class person, the averagindividual, the guy who goes and works0, 70, 80 hour a week in overme thopefully be able to make enou to put

his kid throh college when they tur18 years old. that' fascinating. and in the past it was democrats saying, we want to get more educated, more education towards everyday people. now it's republicans and democrats saying, wait a minute here. we wa to prect the 27% that are going to harvard.epublicans are saying because llege affordabity is a massivtopic interest in america. and right now clege is unaffordable and has en for the better half the past two and a half decadeswith tt being said, from the big beautiful bill that donald trump just gotcross the house the percentage of amicans o rely on the pell ant would no longe able to have access to it because of the new requirements that the use republicans have placed in those the same requirements that donald trump championed just last week. so if we're talking about college affordability, making sure that studenthave access who are from low income backgrounds, who are from rural areas across america, who deserve the right to be able to attend an institution of their community college or a four year university. republicans are chopping tm off at t knees when icomes to that

oppounity.uickly. >> i would. >> agree with you about focusing on pell grants. we certainly want to make sure accessibility and affordability ishere. i would argue, though, that the problem with cost isn' necessarily relegated to grants from t goverent. y know is betr than i do. you've need to completely restructure how college is, constantly raise tuition every four years, baooning it to a way where the average pers can't afford it. in general, that'a bipartisan issue. >> i just i just want to say, because we got to go, this is like an offensively competent policy discussion, totally out of le. >> asha kns her. completely. disagree wityou guys bringing this. >> to me today. >> butt was ally vy thoughtful and i appreciate you both having it. thank you guys veryuch. well, our sll business sers takes us to arizona next, where thowner of the coffee shop and restaurant says everything he does abo communy. how tariffs are affecting his company and his customers. that's next. >> on the tunnel to towers. >> foundation and the.

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and pizza shop that launched in 2021 on heels of the cid 19 pandemi a waybuild community. founder and owner gabeagen is joining me now. gabe, really appreciate ur time. and in addition to tariffs know isn't producedn the h awe mainland u.syou're also trying to grow a business here. talk about the overall impact of tariffs on that right now. >> yea >> so thank you. >> first of all for having me on to. >> tal >> aut this.e stted d last year. >> the expansion. >> pross forur. >> business. >> and we. >> have. >> had to drastically. >> reshift o focus. >> over the last sixths, especially. w've cut over $75,00from our. >> that uld be iestment into equipment, build out costs, things like that >> just so we. >> could try to conserve some of oucapital so we could weather whatever is comi our way, which we really, tru don't kn what that would be right now.

>> have you had to raise costs on customers yet? you said you're talking about taking money from a growth budget. what about kind of day to day? >> yeah. >> so so far, luckily we've been able to absorb most. of the impacts at we've seebecause they are tricklinghere and there.hat we're actually experiencing the most difficulty with right now is actually oduct availability. we have for spialty drinks tt we haven't been able to get all four oem back in sto over the last three wks. anevery week we put in orders tour distbutorsnd our product keepecominout of stock. so we're actually seeing more of an impact on the supply chain right now. but we're anticipating that if prices do go up when these products come back in stock, we're going to have to pass those on. >> with community being so central kind of to the origin story of your business, what have you noticed in the community as tariffs have become such a central point of economic

uncertainty concerns people are having? >> yeah. so we're a community hub. we're a coffee shop. it's a very easy access point for a lot of people. we have done a lot of work to build our shop as a community b where ople can come and gather. so 'retill fortunate to see relatively steady foot traffic. but what we are seeing is we're seeing the amount of spend decreasing. we're seein you know, maybe they're not going to grab that grab tt bag of coffee to take home witthem. ey're just going to grab r daily, daily coffee. and maybe it's just onc or twice a week versus 3 or 4 times. so we're we're still seeing the foot traffic, but our, but our sales are still going down. and i think a t that comes back to just consumer uncertainty. there's a lot of people that just aren't sure what's going to happen. so my construction budget, with everybody at home is doing that thingith their n personal fances. they're trying tcut back where ty can to to really weather

wher's going to come our way. >> what's your durabilitas a business to be able to weather that over time? right. you've been ae to make changes, withhold se mone focus on kind otaking back from the growth sidof things, the cotruction side things. how long canou do that sustainably? >> not much longer. and to be fully transparent, like the reasonhy we were able to do any type of growths mid last year, i invested my entire retirement because i h a corporate career. so my 400 one k, i d a took ney out on my house. so i'm at this point all all my cards are on the table. so if we aren't able to weather it, there's no more serves for me to kind otap into as a business owner. i don't ve the ability to weather a 3 to 6 month loss. while this shakes out, i really need to make sure that i'm scraping by every month. so it is a daily challenge that we have to kind of assess and really reprioritize. >> wt would be. what is your

you tell them if ty're would stening right now? >> we ne stability. i mean, whether ite for at home or for in our businesses, i need to know what i can plan for. i mean, it's middle of the year anbelieve it or not, we need to srt planning for the holiy seas. thatypically means i would be putting in large, you know, cup orders. that would be really great christmas gifts and uff like th. wh? i'm not doing that because i can't risk tying up instabily. so ability is hat going to be the number one thing that that's really needed. because when it comes to figuring out how to adjust a small businesses, not having, you know, corporate finance departments behind us, i really have to decide whether or not i'm going to raise my prices, which ultimately impact my consumers, or i'm going to find a way to cut wages or cut hours, which impacts my staff and my staff retention. so one way or

the other, it's impacting my community. and it just depends on how bad it's going to be. so stability is going to be key for me, planning and most businesses planni for the remainder of the year and bond. >> tempe. tempe, arizona is a greatown. if 're in tempe, arizona,rick road coffee is in that town. community oriented, community centered. gabe hagen, we really appreciateour time and sharing your story. thanks so much. thankou so much. >> well, this long weekend marks the beginning of a busy summer travel season. we're checking in can expect loweras prices bere you hit t road. sy with us. >> ca't foolyself. >> it was the most exciting time in the world. >> his lif >> had extremely. joyful moments. >> and some really. >> difficult moments. you only come across an artist like luther vandross once in a lifetime. >> luther. never too much. tonight at eight on cnn. >> hey.

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derek, what are you watching? >> yeah, that's right. phil, look, a lot of people traveling home at the moment, and unfortunately, this this this is a serious situation, considering that it is rolling through populated area of alabama, mississippi and into western portions of texas as well. so we've got a lot going on, a lot going on in terms of the severe weather potential here. not only is it a tornado threat, but also hail threat and the two inch diameter hail that ion the smaller scale of some of the orms that could pontially form across stern xas. the potential here for fouinch or greater hail is definitely a possibility here. so this is something we're monitoring very closy. bterms of the storhat armoving through pruce winds in eess of 60mph. but i rlly want to across parts of texas, bause just s of san angelo, there is a large supercell

thunrstorm that s create what is called a pcularly dangerous situatioin terms of a tornado warning that is ongoing. this is, again just south of the city, and also flash flood warnings that are ongoing with this particular cell. lots of rain through this particular system. i want to time this out for you because it is going to be a rude awakening on tuesday morning. if you're located in, let's say, houston or the galveston area, this area will see this round of thunderstormmove through early in the morning. d then as these thunderstorms fire up along a stalled frontal boundary, this could bring rough weather to places like atlanta. birmingham. once again, these are the two areas that we're monitoring for severe weather potential for the day tomorrow. so still very active stretch of weather from hail to tornadoes. back to. >> you derek van dam with the latest for us. thanks so much. joining me now to talk all things holiday weekend travel patrick de haan head of petroleum analysis at gasbuddy patrick, it's a striking moment. we saw the lowest inflation adjusted gas prices for memorial day weekend since 2003. i think

around $3.08 a gallon. what are trends looking like for the rest of the summer? >> yeah. it's certainly going to be a. >> very busy summer with. >> a lot of americans hitting the road. having said that, we. >> do see a bit of a. >> break compared to. >> last year. >> i think americans. >> are a little bit overwhelmed. >> with kind of the economic jitters of what we've been seeing here the last couple of weeks tariffs, trade wars. that has really impacted the psyche of some americans. now, having said that. >> last summer. >> 76% of respondents to our annual summer travel. survey with gasbuddy said. >> that they'll. >> be traveling this. >> year. >> a. >> slight drop. >> to. >> 69% even. >> amidst lower gas prices. >> in fact, over. >> the memorial. day driving. >> holiday, americans. >> are spending roughly $650 million less. on gasoline compared. >> to a. >> year ago. so while. gas prices. >> are a little. >> bit lower. >> a little. >> bit. >> of economic unease now factoring. >> into how americans.

>> are going. >> to. >> be. >> hitting the road this summer. >> yeah. and it's one of several kind of cross-cutting elements converging right now that are driving prices down. what are what are they what are you seeing? >> yeah, a. >> lot. >> of this. >> is really opec. >> now opec did just announce a move forward of their meeting for june back. >> to may. >> but a lot of this really has to do with opec increasing production. >> in the long run though over the last. >> couple of years. >> you'll remember. >> back in 2022 when gas prices hit their all time high for memorial day. it was really a function of the american economy reopening. russia's war in ukraine. those waves. >> have slowly. >> subdued over. >> the. last couple of years. gas prices hitting the peak in 2022 but declining in 20 2324 and again in 2025. so a. >> long road. >> to finally some sort of slowdown in gas prices, but a lot of it having to do with opec raising production over the last few months. and also that economic uncertainty, as. >> i mentioned, the. >> trade war has undermined stock prices and oil prices. so

that's something to keep an eye on here as we move forward. >> patrick de haan, always appreciate it. thanks so much. and in our world lead, does this look like playful teasing to you? well, according to the french government, that's all the first lady was doing when she appeared to shove president emmanuel macron in the face yesterday. cnn's saskya vandoorne has the latest. >> this short video of president macron and his wife brigitte, pushing his face as they land in vietnam, is going viral and has caught the attention of russian trolls. later, macron appears to offer his arm, but france's first lady opts to hold the railing instead. the elysee palace, initially denied anything unusual had happened, calling it a moment of togetherness and playful teasing. in a statement, macron later told journalists he was surprised by the attempts to twist the moment. >> the video.

>> there is a video. >> now. >> which opens. we're in the middle of bickering and rather joking with my wife. >> and i'm surprised by. >> how this becomes a kind of. planetary catastrophe. >> french officials say the moment will likely feed the mills of conspiracy theorists and russian trolls. it's already become a target for pro-russian accounts and russian state media, who viewed it as a possible opportunity to spread misinformation. and this isn't the first time. earlier this month, prominent kremlin officials claimed macron was using cocaine on a train trip to kyiv with british prime minister keir starmer and german chancellor friedrich merz. french officials say a crumpled tissue was mistaken for a bag of drugs. macron's office debunked the rumor with humor, tweeting this is a tissue for blowing your nose. officials say these efforts are part of a wider kremlin campaign to undermine europe's steadfast support for ukraine in the war against russia. saskya vandoorne cnn,

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