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very latest. >> plus, after spending more than 100 days in ice detention, a judge now ordering pro-palestinian activists and columbia university grad student mahmoud khalil to be released. one of his attorneys will join us live. plus, pope leo warning about the dangers of artificial intelligence, especially against children. and a message to tech executives gathering at the vatican. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here at cnn news central. thank you so much for sharing part of your afternoon with us. i'm boris sanchez, alongside brianna keilar in our nation's capital. and right now we're tracking a perilous moment for the world, a meeting just wrapping up between top european officials and the iranian foreign affairs minister in switzerland. as the conflict rages on between iran and israel. iran says it is willing to keep negotiating.

>> iran is ready to consider diplomacy once again, and once aggression is stopped and the aggressor is held accountable for the crimes committed. in this regard, i made it crystal clear that iran's defense capabilities are not negotiable. >> the fighting, now in its eighth day with israel and iran trading new missile attacks today. >> as the tensions ratcheted up. the world is waiting to see if the u.s. could directly get involved here. president trump met with his national security team again today after giving iran that two week deadline yesterday, opening the door for further diplomacy. we are tracking the latest developments here. let's start with this high stakes meeting in geneva. cnn's matthew chance is there live. matthew, what are you hearing about what happened behind closed doors? >> well, it's been a very hectic session. it's been going on for several hours. it went on for several hours. it's now over

the hotel in geneva. here outside which i'm standing, has now emptied of all the delegations. but, you know, we've had word from officials inside the talks who've spoken to us about the atmosphere inside and what was actually discussed. one western official telling me that the atmosphere was very, very tense at first, certainly for the first 75 minutes of direct talks between the european officials. that's the foreign ministers of britain, france and germany, europe, the european union's top, top diplomat and the their iranian counterpart. but after there was a break and the the talks became a little bit more positive. that's how it was characterized to me by both western officials and iranian officials who i spoke to after the talks ended. i think the key takeaway has been this, according to officials inside those talks, that there was a direct message delivered to the iranians by the europeans from the united states. and that message was essentially twofold.

the first is that the there would be no deal unless iran stopped all uranium enrichment. of course, that's a red line for the iranians. and iranian diplomat here said that no such commitment was made during these talks. but obviously, the iranian foreign minister, you heard there saying that iran was prepared to negotiate on issues, and that is certainly the crux of the issue. the other interesting thing that came out of these talks, according to a western diplomat who spoke to me after the talks were over, is that there was a demand passed on from the united states via the europeans to the iranians for direct talks between u.s. and iranian negotiators and the iranians basically rejected that at this stage, saying they would not talk to the united states so long as there is israeli military action underway against them. the western diplomats and officials made it clear to the iranians that that the u.s. didn't necessarily have the authority and the power to stop

israel from carrying out its strikes. but they said they would go back to washington. they would attempt to get a pause from the israelis in return. the iranians said that they would go back to their senior leadership and try and negotiate a temporary pause to their bombardment of israel as well. if both of those things happen, there could be direct talks, i'm told, by diplomats inside these meetings between the united states and iran. but we're still some distance away from that. there is a window of opportunity that's been opened by president trump of within two weeks, but it is not altogether a given that there will be more progress beyond today. >> matthew chance is live for us in geneva. thank you so much for the update. for the latest on what's happening on the ground in the middle east. let's go live to cnn's jeremy diamond, who's in tel aviv for us, jeremy, several strikes across israel today. what are you hearing? >> yeah, that's right, iran firing a barrage of more than 20

ballistic missiles across israel today as sirens rang out every israeli across the country, went into bomb shelters. we saw several impacts in southern and northern israel, but the most significant one was near the port of haifa, where we saw one person was seriously injured, two in moderate condition and more than two dozen others with light injuries. a nearby mosque was also damaged in the strike. it appeared that the iranians were likely targeting that strategic port of haifa, which is strategic for its commercial purposes. also, because there's an israeli naval base there, but clearly not hitting that target and instead hitting a civilian area. it was just the latest in a series of quite destructive iranian strikes that have not resulted in any fatalities over the course of the last few days, but nonetheless have certainly shaken the israeli public and resulted in a number of injuries and quite significant

destruction. and all of this comes as israelis are being told now that they're going to have to wait up to two weeks to see what president trump will actually decide to do in this, as the president has decided to allow more time for diplomacy to see if iran, now in a much weaker position following a week of very intense israeli strikes in iran, whether the iranians will change their redlines and whether they will agree to the terms that president trump is proposing, that matthew was just talking about, there, certainly from the israeli government's perspective, the prime minister has been very cautious not to push president trump too hard on this issue. i'm told that he has not directly, explicitly urged president trump to carry out a u.s. strike on that fordo nuclear facility in iran, but there's no question that the israeli government has hoped from the beginning of this operation that the u.s. would be the one to come in and ultimately deliver that final blow to the iranian nuclear program. at this hour, though,

that seems very uncertain. and so we know that the israelis have reviewed other options that they may have to try and destroy that fordow facility. none of them quite as certain. and certainly a lot riskier than the option of u.s. b-2 bombers dropping those 30,000 pound bunker buster bombs on fordo. and as all of this is happening, the israeli military's chief of staff, eyal zamir, telling the israeli public to brace for a prolonged campaign not only in terms of israeli strikes in iran, but also in terms of that continued iranian retaliation here in israel. boris. >> jeremy diamond, live for us in tel aviv. thank you so much. joining us now to discuss this and more headlines is the israeli ambassador to the united nations, danny danon. ambassador, thank you so much for being with us. i want to get your reaction to this reporting that iranian officials said they would not meet with a u.s. delegation for direct talks while israel is bombing their country. obviously, the united states does not tell the idf

what to do. i wonder if you think that prime minister netanyahu would take that into consideration to allow these talks, these direct talks to go on. >> bowie, thank you for having me today. you know, for the last few decades, iran has been playing with all those negotiations, deliberations. i don't think they understood that, you know, we had enough. we had enough. once we realized that they are actually planning to assemble a nuclear bomb, we took preemptive attack to stop them. and now there are two options. you know, either we will have to continue to degrade their capabilities or that they will understand that they will have to give up with those vicious ambitions. and it's not only the nuclear ambitions, it's also the ballistic missiles. you know, yesterday we saw the attack on a hospital. you know, they will use everything they have against us. so and against other countries. that's why we are so committed not to allow them to get to the point where they can assemble a

nuclear bomb. >> i do want to ask you, ambassador, about the attack that damaged the soroka medical center, but i want to get some clarity from you on whether you believe that any diplomatic solution is possible at this point. >> so, you know, let's analyze your question. you have diplomacy and you have solutions. if the diplomacy, just for the sake of the talks, it's not going to work anymore. and the iranians are the master of deception for so many years. you know, they did it with president obama. president biden, and now they're trying to do again with president trump that will not work if they are committed to actually take out their capabilities to neutralize them completely, not to enrich uranium. you know, today we had a session in the security council, and we heard a report from the iaea and the iaea itself said very clearly, you know, the amount of uranium they enriched. you know, nobody can explain why they need so much. so there's only one explanation

for that. if they are willing to give away those radical ideas, yes. then they always play for diplomacy. after every military action. but i'm not sure that they are there yet the iranian leadership has made clear that demands to end any enrichment of uranium in iran is off the table. >> they say that this is a red line for them. if that's the case, and they do not want to let go of any nuclear program, would you support pushing for regime change in iran, eliminating the ayatollah as has been floated by several israeli officials? >> well, i think that's up to the iranian people, but i wish there will be a regime change. you know, i pray for the people of iran. i even address them in farsi. the other day in the general assembly, because they are the ones who suffer the most from this regime. there have been oppressed for so many years, for 46 years, are oppressed in iran. so i hope there will be a regime change. you know, look at the money they

spent on the proxies. almost $9 billion a year. you know, feeding terrorists in yemen, in syria, in lebanon, in gaza, you name it. but they don't invest actually in iran itself. so i hope there will be a regime change. i think that the people of iran deserve better leadership. >> ambassador, what do you say to critics of the israeli government who argue that netanyahu is trying to drag the united states into an unnecessary war so, you know, we are very. >> clear about that. you know, we took our decision in order to protect ourselves, the u.s. and other allies should decide for themselves what's good for them. what is the what is the benefit for their national interest? you know, i can tell you one thing. you know, when you see the chance in iran, it's only not only death to israel, it's also death to america, death to the uk, you know, and you understand that the threat is not only against us, you know, they try

to assassinate president trump. they attacked us. a military bases all around the middle east. so yes, we are in the in the focus of the iranians, but we are not the only one. but i would leave it to each government to take its own decision. >> you previously spoke about the attack that damaged the soroka hospital. you've described it as a war crime. you've urged the un to condemn iran. tehran claims that it was actually targeting a nearby command center. i wonder what evidence you have that this was a direct attack specifically aimed for the hospital. >> you know, it's very clear, boris. let's look back about the last conflict with iran back then, a few months ago, they targeted military facilities and israeli air force bases. and by the way, they are very good technology, accurate one. and they were able to send those ballistic missiles, the same ones that they are sending today

into military facilities today. it's exactly the opposite. today they are targeting civilian population hospitals. they are using a special cluster munition which, you know, spreads, you know, a lot of damage in a very large area. and they're sending it into our cities. 29 israelis were murdered. hundreds were wounded. and, you know, you see the amount of soldiers that were wounded is minimal because they are not targeting any military bases. >> so, ambassador, how do you respond to those who argue that israel has committed war crimes by targeting hospitals in gaza? >> so, you know, you cannot make that equation because, you know, we chased terrorists and we allow people to evacuate those places. we tell them in advance, by the way, same in iran. you know, we we try to minimize civilian casualties, to tell people not to stay in certain areas in gaza. it's very complicated, but we always give a warning. we tell people to

move out. while hamas is hiding in those facilities. it is not a similar case. >> ambassador danny danon, we have to leave the conversation there. we very much appreciate you joining us to share your point of view thank you very much, boris. of course, still to come as president trump delays his decision on whether to attack iran for two weeks, some of his biggest supporters are at odds about the united states role in the conflict, a decision that could divide his maga base. >> plus, a judge says palestinian activist mahmoud khalil will be released today, more than three months after he was arrested outside his apartment on columbia university's campus. we'll have that and much more coming up on cnn news central live aid, when rock and roll took on the world, premieres july 13th on cnn

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>> we're working on the, you know, conditions of his release, which the federal court should said should be nominal. and, for example, rejected any kind of gps monitoring because of findings that just extensive findings of any flight risk or any dangerousness whatsoever. so hopefully it will be very soon. >> so where does his case stand right now? >> so what the judge did, he's basically said that the the foreign policy charges brought by secretary rubio, namely that mahmoud and other student activists are threats to u.s. foreign policy simply because of their constitutionally protected speech. the judge said that's presumptively unconstitutional. the government manufactured several other kind of post-hoc

pretextual charges, baseless charges that he made, you know, tiny misrepresentations on his green card application. those are still pending, but and we'll have to litigate those. but in the meantime, this is a bail decision. and the court concluded there's no reason he should continue to be detained, given the serious harms that are happening. the chill that is happening to his speech and other people's speech as a result of detention and the need for him to no longer delay while we litigate the validity of these other pretextual charges. >> i've been following the case since soon after he was detained, and it struck me that a lot of what the administration was saying publicly and accusing him of publicly was not necessarily finding its way into the courtroom. did the government at any point actually present evidence that he was coordinating with any adverse

group, adversarial group to the united states, that his presence in the united states presented a problem of national security? >> absolutely not. what the government admitted is the reason for his arrest, detention and removal were nothing other than his activities, and his activities were constitutionally protected. speech in favor of justice for palestinians, which the government said happened to be aligned with hamas. i suppose insofar as he's criticizing u.s. foreign policy and demanding justice for palestinians, including a cease fire. but there are absolutely no allegations of any connections or, you know, any sort of concrete foreign policy concerns. it is exclusively because of his constitutionally protected speech, a principle that could threaten anyone in this country. >> does he plan to continue

protesting when he's out on bail? >> he is fully he's a peace activist. he's an international human rights activist, and he's palestinian. and i don't expect he will ever stop advocating for justice for palestinian people and an end to their continued slaughter and starvation. >> i wonder what your message is more broadly, not only to students like him that the administration may be seeking to target using the same justifications, but also to the administration itself well, the administration has tried these charges against 5 or 6 student activists, and this is the the last of those 5 or 6 cases in which a federal courts have found such detentions to be unconstitutional and released

people. >> it is the message to the administration is one this is illegal, and two, it is cowardly. and so contrary to american constitutional, democratic conditions, to be so scared of speech, dissenting from u.s. foreign policy, so nervous that the message gets out. then, rather rather than try and meet the message on its own terms, to take someone in the middle of the night and send them thousands of miles away from family and attorneys and punish them in secret them because you're so scared of their message. a message, by the way of peace. >> thank you so much for the update. please keep us posted. i know i heard at least a half dozen messages pinging on your phone. we'll let you get to them. keep us posted on no worries. let us know what comes of mahmoud khalil's release. please. >> thank you. central. we're back in just a ws few minutes.

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>> let's discuss with pollster and communications strategist frank luntz. frank, good to see you as always. i think this divide was perhaps best encapsulated this week by this conversation between tucker carlson and senator ted cruz of texas. what did you think of that? >> it was dramatic. it's something that i'm not used to seeing within the republican party. typically, you've got 90% of them being very aggressive, very focused, willing to use the military to put america in a stronger position. and that is not the case right now. and it's interesting that trump, the president even has people who support him who are opposed to what he's saying about iran. we've been looking at the polling. 85% of americans do not want iran to have a nuclear weapon. however, they're evenly split over whether the u.s. should be involved. it's really 45%. get involved militarily, 45% do not, and 10% that don't know. but there's also split on the democratic side between those who simply want to back

israel, not militarily, and those who want to back the palestinians, or in this case, iran. it's not that they're backing iran, but they do not support the president's position on this. so both political parties are going through a little bit of chaos, a little bit of confusion. and i think that's why the president postponed the decision for two weeks to try to get some more clarity. >> there's just also this, you know, decades of weariness because of protracted wars. right. and that factors very much into this on both sides. >> and let's be candid, it hasn't worked out for the u.s. afghanistan. i'm sorry, but afghanistan was not a success. iraq was not iraq. you can argue about that, but it's still problematic. and americans just don't want to be part of forever wars. trump got that point right. and what's interesting is that here in ukraine, trump in some ways is the advocate for peace, although it's changed over the last 72, 96 hours. in the end, i be advising iran, knowing the situation, that i do pay

attention to him. the president does not like to be ignored. the president does not like to be rejected. he's given them another chance. negotiate. commit to getting rid of the weapons. >> you're saying don't dismiss the two weeks. >> pay attention because you can save your country. i can't call it. and it's not my job as a pollster to call it. i can't even call where america is going to be because we're changing over time. but we do not want iran to have nuclear weapons. and if we believe that, not only do they have them, but there's a threat that they will use them, the public will be on the side of action, not on the side of ignoring it. >> you're essentially saying that iran should not devalue trump's two weeks that he gave them. but i do want to ask, as a communications strategist, what you make of him talking about two weeks as an extension and hoping for diplomacy when he said that we should wait two weeks for a number of things that have never come to fruition

it's actually, frank, i'm sorry to cut you off, but the president is speaking right now. let's listen. >> our secretary of state, marco rubio, has done a fantastic job. so, rwanda, long term war with the congo, a very bloody war. they're all bloody. but this was a really bloody one. is going to be making peace with congo. and they can get on to making trade deals with the united states and other places and have a much more normal form of life. we're very honored by that. as you know, we did a very great job with india and pakistan. and we had india in it. looks like we're going to be making a trade deal with india. and we had pakistan in it. looks like we're going to be making a trade deal with pakistan. and it's a beautiful thing to watch. serbia, kosovo. likewise. they've been fighting for years. and as you know, we brought that one to a conclusion. and now we have a couple of big ones. we have russia, ukraine, which is making a little bit of progress. and we have israel. and nobody really

knows what that one is all about. we're going to find out pretty soon, i guess. >> the iranian foreign minister, the iranian foreign minister this afternoon said if the u.s. is serious about negotiations, that you would call up israel and request that they stop their airstrikes, will you make that request? >> well, i think it's very hard to make that request right now if somebody is winning. it's a little bit harder to do than if somebody is losing. but we're ready, willing and able. and we've been speaking to iran and we'll see what happens. we'll see what happens. but the thought process behind two. >> week. >> timeframe just a time to see whether or not people come to their senses. that's all it is. >> did the europeans help at all in talking with the iranians? >> no, they didn't help. no. iran doesn't want to speak to europe. they want they want to speak to us. europe is not going to be able to help on this one. >> 20 years ago, you were skeptical of a republican administration that attacked a middle east country on the idea of questionable intelligence, of weapons of mass destruction. how

is this moment different with iran? >> well, there were no weapons of mass destruction. i never thought there were. and that was somewhat pre-nuclear, you know, it was there was a nuclear age, but nothing like it is today. and it looked like i'm right about the material that they've gathered already. it's a tremendous amount of material. and i think within a matter of weeks, or certainly within a matter of months, they're going to be able to have a nuclear weapon. we can't let that happen. i was very much opposed to iraq. i was i said it loud and clear, but i was a civilian. but i guess i got a lot of publicity. but i was very much opposed to the iraq war. and i actually did say, don't go in, don't go in, don't go in. but i said, if you're going to go in, keep the oil. but they didn't do that. >> what intelligence do you have that iran is building a nuclear weapon. your intelligence community has said they have no evidence that they are at this point. >> well, then my intelligence community is wrong. who in the intelligence community said that? >> your director of national

intelligence. tulsi gabbard. >> she's wrong. >> mr. president, president, in any way helping iran at this moment, hearing reports of serious planes landing in iran from china. >> are they saying that they're there to take people out? but i can't tell you about that. i get along very well with china, get along very well with president xi. i like him, he likes me. we have a very good relationship. we'll see what happens. i can't imagine them getting involved. >> kursk region that you need to make on iran, whether to strike militarily. is this the biggest decision you'll have to make as president? >> well, i can't tell you that. i have to see what happens. i can't really say that. it depends what the decision is. but i wouldn't really be able to tell you that now. i'll tell you in about a year from now, maybe five years or ten years from now. you never know about decisions. you never really know. >> what the president. >> a cease fire while the negotiations happen. >> i might, depending on the circumstances. >> would you?

>> it's very hard to stop. i will say this. it's very hard to stop when you look at it. israel is doing well in terms of war and i think you would say that iran is doing less well. it's a little bit hard to get somebody to stop. >> liam cosgrove is your former congressman. matt gaetz, throughout an interesting idea, suggesting that if if you were to broker a deal where nuclear inspectors go into both israel and iran, that you could win a nobel peace prize and they might even rename it the trump peace prize. did you hear those? what do you think of that? >> well, they should give me the nobel prize for rwanda. and if you look the congo or you could say serbia, kosovo, you could say a lot of them. you could say, i mean, the big one is india. and pakistan. you could i should have gotten it 4 or 5 times. i should get it for the i would think the abraham accords would be a good one too. they won't give me a nobel peace prize because they only give it to liberals. >> would you support iran being

able to have nuclear, or would you support iran being able to have civilian nuclear energy capabilities up to 3.76%? >> you know, they're sitting on the top of one of the largest piles of oil in the world. i just don't know why they need that for civilian work. you know, it's one thing for certain countries to say, hey, i want to have a certain amount where i can go nuclear a little bit because we need it for electricity. we need it for air conditioners, et cetera. but when you're sitting on one of the largest oil piles anywhere in the world, it's a little bit hard to see why you need that. yeah. >> you. >> would wage terror attacks against american targets abroad if you order military action? >> we're always concerned about that, and we have to take them out and be very strong. you're even in danger talking to me right now. do you know that you are in danger talking to me right now? so i should probably get out of here. but you guys are actually in danger. can you believe. >> it? one more. is it still

your expectation that nato countries spend 5% of their gdp on defense spending? >> i think they should do that. i don't think we should, but i think they should. we've been spending we've been supporting nato so long, in many cases, i believe, paying almost 100% of the cost. so i don't think we should, but i think that the nato countries should absolutely. >> like spain, decides not to. >> well, nato is going to have to deal with spain. spain has been a very low payer. they were always a very low payer. they were either good negotiators or they weren't doing the right thing. i mean, i think spain has to pay what everybody else has to pay. spain has been notorious for low pay. you know who else was a low payer? just about the lowest. a place called canada. because canada said, why should we pay when the united states will protect us? free would have been right about that. >> i.c.e. you've been making progress towards a peace deal, but i don't know if you know this, but lindsey graham and mike pompeo were there on the

ground in ukraine, seemingly doing the opposite, trying to provoke the ukrainians to keep fighting. what do you think of that? >> well, we're going to see. and people have to be very careful with what they say. they've got to be very careful with their mouth because their mouth can get them into a lot of trouble. >> i.c.e. i.c.e. is said that they're trying to arrest up to 3000 individuals a day. there are some communities that are saying they are fearful of being wrongfully detained or separating some families, even if they are undocumented. is the fear in some of these communities worth the deportations of these undocumented individuals? a mass deportation program? >> it's a tough subject because, look, we have farmers. i love farmers, i want 80%, 85% of the farmers, and i love them. and i'm never going to do anything to hurt our farmers. and you can also say the leisure business. et cetera. there are some businesses where you have a disproportionate amount of people that are the people that you're talking about. at the same time, we have to get the criminals out of our country, and we're looking at doing

something where, in the case of good, reputable farmers, they can take responsibility for the people that they hire and let them have responsibility because we can't put the farms out of business. and at the same time, we don't want to hurt people that aren't criminals. most of the people that came in over the last three years under biden, i would say probably three and a half to four years, those people, you have a lot of criminals, you have a lot of i mean, we're looking at that very closely. you've had people that have worked on farms for 20 years. it's very hard to go in there and say, you know, you're coming out, but we're going to let the farmers take responsibility. they're great people. they'll do it. they know the good and the bad. so the hard part about this is not like a normal war where people wear uniforms. they don't wear uniforms. but we have murderers that came out of the last four years. we have murderers, we have drug lords, we have people that we don't want to. we have prisoners. they emptied out venezuela in many countries. they emptied out their prisons

into the united states. we have to get those people out. but we have stone cold murderers, 11,888 murders. we've already gotten a lot of them out of here, but we don't want them. so we have to be careful. but i never want to hurt our farmers. our farmers are great people. they keep us happy and healthy and fat. >> are there other cities that you're going to try to replicate? what you've done in los angeles? >> well, i mean, we had a big victory last night in the court. court of appeals, with respect to los angeles. but really, the country where gavin newsom, who is really an incompetent governor, he's just doing a terrible job between his fires, between all the houses burning down his forest fires and now los angeles, if we didn't go to los angeles and the sheriff admitted it, he had no control. he would have lost control. we saved los angeles by having the military go in and the second night was much better. the third night was nothing much. and the

fourth night nobody bothered even coming. we put out that fire and we did a great job of it. he sued us for going in and for helping him. we went and helped him. right now you'd have los angeles burning to the ground. largely, it would have already been destroyed. >> so do you think deportations should be that of a peacemaker? do you worry that striking iran would change that? >> always a peacemaker. that doesn't mean sometimes you need some toughness to make peace, but always a peacemaker. >> you win in iran without ground forces. it is an aerial campaign in iran. enough. or do you need ground forces? >> well, i'm not going to talk about ground forces. the last thing you want to do is ground force. >> does iran have two weeks or could you strike before that? are you essentially giving them a two week timeline. >> giving them a period of time? we're going to see what that period of time is. but i'm giving them a period of time and i would say two weeks would be the maximum. >> mr. president. >> do you think deportations should focus on criminals or all the people who are here illegally.

>> should start focusing on criminals? and that's what we've been focused on. very bad criminals, dangerous criminals. >> but stephen miller said to go out and arrest every person who's here illegally. he told i.c.e. to arrest everyone who's here illegally. >> stephen and i have a very good understanding. he is a terrific person. we have a great understanding. >> mr. president. if there are, if there is an attack on u.s. assets, will you promise to conduct a full investigation and make it transparent with the american people before blaming iran for such an attack? >> well, if there's an attack, we'll know almost immediately with modern equipment, who made the attack. and those people will be very, very unhappy. >> prime minister. >> people out of. >> danger. >> prime in danger. standing with me. >> one more. prime minister netanyahu said that they had the capacity to take out all of iran's nuclear facilities. so what role would the u.s. be able to play, and why would they, if israel says that they have all of the abilities their own. >> military? >> he said that. but they really have a very limited capacity. they can break through a little

section, but they can't go down very deep. they don't have that capacity. and we'll have to see what happens. maybe it won't be necessary, maybe it won't be necessary. would you like to. >> see congress pass a bill that bans child transgender surgeries? >> well, i know they're talking about it, aren't they? we're going to have to see how it comes to me and what form. certainly. it's been something i've been talking about. also. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you, mr. president. >> appreciate it thank you everybody. thank you. thank you, mr. all right. >> we're listening to president trump there in new jersey. and he's being questioned as he is given as he has given this time period of two weeks to iran as he weighs, whether to involve the u.s. in taking out some of iran's nuclear program. and what's really interesting there was the reporters were trying to pin him down on exactly what that time period is. is it a flaw? is it a ceiling? he said, we're giving them a period of

time. and he said that the two weeks is a maximum. so he's sort of indicating there that something could happen. a strike could come before two weeks. and he was also pressed on the intelligence about you know, he's stressing. we're hearing israel's stress that it is imminent, that iran could be to the point of having a nuclear weapon. he was asked about intelligence from tulsi gabbard, his director of national intelligence. he said flat out that she is wrong. and then he also was asked in the context of iraq, of course, you know, intelligence being incorrect ahead of that invasion there. he i just want to be very clear about this because he stated there that he had been against the invasion of iran, contrary to what trump claimed right there and what he has claimed time and time again, he did not actually publicly express opposition to the invasion of iran before it occurred. >> yeah, i. >> also, i should say, pardon. >> me. yeah. message. yeah. yeah, i think it was notable. also, the president reflecting on talks today in geneva, saying

that didn't help the president saying that iran wants to speak to us, though the iranians today, according to cnn's own reporting, essentially said that they would not have direct talks with the united states unless israel stopped its current campaign. now, obviously, the united states doesn't control what the idf does. but president trump there was asked if he would urge prime minister benjamin netanyahu to slow down israel's attacks, and he remained non-committal. he said, quote, if somebody is winning, it's hard to get them to stop. also, notably, the president was asked about the potential for u.s. troops to be sent into iran to have boots on the ground, the president saying, quote, the last thing you want is ground forces. let's take you live to the white house now with cnn's kristen holmes. kristen, what else stood out to you from president trump's question and answer session with reporters? >> well, i will say you guys hit really a lot of the highlights here. i have a whole list of the things he said about iran. and just listening to you tick them off. so but i do want to note a couple of things that we heard

here, which was he did respond for the first time to the iranian foreign minister, who said earlier today, if the u.s. wants to end this, wants to have diplomatic talks, they need to pick up the phone and call israel and tell them to stop bombing. and then we can sit down. and he said that it's very hard to do because israel is winning the war. so it's hard to tell them that they need to stop at this point, as you noted, saying that the europeans didn't help the situation at all. that is not the read that we got out of that meeting. in fact, the iranians said that after that meeting, they actually were more willing to have a diplomatic conversation. and just one quick note of that. we, the united states, was engaged in that meeting. yes. we were not there. but steve witkoff the middle eastern envoy, met with the the united kingdom foreign minister yesterday before he flew to geneva for these talks. so we're very much a part of that conversation, even though we were not in the room. and then on top of that, we have exactly what we had been reporting that

trump, the president, believes that his national intelligence director, tulsi gabbard, is off message. that's what we reported yesterday. and here he was asked about her assessment back in march, where she said that there were no that iran was not near to developing a nuclear weapon. and he said point blank, she is wrong. and then another interesting part of this to me was actually not about iran and israel, but it was about what was going on in ukraine with ukraine and russia. he was asked specifically, you know, you say you want a ceasefire, but we saw that lindsey graham was on the ground there, and he was actually encouraging iranians to keep fighting. sorry, ukrainians to keep fighting. and he had this kind of remark where he said, people need to close their mouth and stop talking. it gets people in trouble when they run their mouths. so, you know, we know that the president does not want to engage with what is going on between russia and ukraine. and in fact, he's actually been pulling himself out of it after promising to solve that in the first 48, 24 hours of his presidency. but all

in all, here we look at that two weeks. we still don't have the exact answer of what it means. they say, he says, that he's giving people time to come to their senses. one of the things we continue to ask is, what does it look like when the two weeks is over? is this something where donald trump says, okay, two weeks is over, we are striking. we are getting involved? or is there more of a squishy evolution here? and of course, he said there that two weeks is the maximum. but we also know that he wants to give this time to play out diplomatically. one of the things that we have heard time and time again from advisers around him, from white house officials, is that the president is incredibly wary of getting us involved into some kind of long term conflict in the middle east. so he is looking for an off ramp here in this in terms of diplomacy. >> all right, kristen, thank you so much for that. let's go to jeremy diamond. now. he is in tel aviv. you're listening there to what the president said jeremy, what stood out to you well, certainly president trump making very clear that he has no

intention of telling the israeli prime minister to stop bombing iran. >> it's clear that the president is seeing what israel is doing in iran. and he said that he believes that they are winning, effectively pointing to the success of israel's military campaign in iran over the course of the last week. we know, of course, that the israelis have been touting a series of figures to point to the successes of that campaign, whether it is the killing of a series of senior iranian military commanders, the attacks that they've carried out on several iranian nuclear facilities or just today, the israeli military chief of staff saying that they've destroyed about half of iran's ballistic missile launchers by a series of metrics. it's clear that israel's campaign has been quite successful, and the president is seeing that and making clear that he has no intention of telling the israelis to slow down or stop. what he also showed is that he seems to be believing the israeli prime minister over his

own director of national intelligence, in terms of how close iran was to a potential nuclear bomb. the israeli prime minister and other senior israeli government officials have been saying that it was a matter of weeks or months. we heard president trump use that exact same language just now, and rejecting the conclusions of his director of national intelligence, tulsi gabbard, who said that there was no indication of such a short timeline for iran to get to a nuclear weapon. and so, even as president trump is giving the space for diplomacy over the course of the next two weeks, he is also making clear that for now at least, he is certainly siding with what the israelis are doing in iran. he is supporting them, and he is also supporting the reasons for why israel carried out those strikes, even as he is uncertain about whether or not to get u.s. forces involved in that directly. >> all right, jeremy, thank you

so much. we do want to bring in david miliband, the former british foreign secretary, who is currently the president and ceo of the international rescue committee. sir, thank you so much for being with us. you heard what president trump said there and on on europe. he said these talks, they didn't help. iran doesn't want to speak to europe. they want to speak to us, meaning the u.s., europe is not going to be able to help on this one. the uk, obviously, a part of those talks. what did you think hearing that? >> i thought two things came through very clearly from what the president said. the first is that the next two weeks are precious, and he has created this two weeks of space, a lot of space between israel and iran, because the volley of between the two sides is continuing at a very high rate. but there is a space before there is a decision on the american intervention. the second aspect that i think is important is clearly there is an element of tag teaming going on between the u.s. and the european talks with the

iranians. the fact that the iranians were sitting with four european foreign ministers in geneva today is, i think, significant. the fact that the british foreign secretary was here in washington yesterday suggests to me that there's some very clear messaging being done, both through the israeli action, but also through what the europeans are saying. i'm sure they're conveying in no uncertain terms to the iranians quite how serious the peril that they face is and the determination that is, frankly, united across the the atlantic alliance that iran should not be a nuclear weapon state, because that's the last thing that the middle east needs at the moment. >> do you see a diplomatic solution anywhere here in the near term? >> i've always believed that there is a diplomatic solution to the iranian nuclear file. i spent three years when i was foreign secretary working on this in very difficult days under the ahmadinejad administration in iran, which

made it very, very difficult. but even in those early days, it was clear to me that you could be 100% clear that iran should not become a nuclear weapons state and 100% clear that there was a diplomatic resolution to it. even in the last few weeks, it's been clear that the american side, with some gulf support, have put forward some quite ingenious ideas about how to get around the iranian determination to have a civilian nuclear program with the proposal for offshore processing of uranium. now, the iranians have been significantly weakened in the last six months, and they've been weakened further in the last 7 or 8 days. it's clear to me that there is a diplomatic way out of this. and of course, ten years ago there was an agreement which the iranians were forced to abide by by the iaea, the international atomic energy authority, and by the threat of renewed sanctions. >> and just really quickly, if there do continue to be these

traded strikes, how much danger does that put talks in? >> significant, because obviously, the further this goes, the harder it is to pull back. we all know from history as well as our own careers that it's easy for the shooting to start. it's very much harder to get it to stop. and the further it goes, the greater the danger of conflagration. >> former british foreign secretary david miliband, thank you so much for being with us. we do appreciate it. >> and thank you so much for being with us and frank luntz as well. we never got his answer to the two weeks question. frank, we appreciate you sticking around the arena. >> get it in two weeks. >> two weeks. the arena with kasie hunt starts right now. >> come in today for yellow and black savings at lumber liquidators with no middleman. and our huge buying power, we're offering special buy deals no

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