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>> christine brennan for us tonight. christine, as always, thanks. good to see you. and that is going to do it for us tonight. thanks for joining us. "larry king live" starts right now. tonight one of the greatest football players in nfl history is charged with third-degree rape of a teen runaway. >> my client did not have sex with anybody. no, period. amen. >> lawrence taylor, he's had a troubled past, but today's news is a shocker. >> i've never seen him this distraught. and then bret michaels is going to make it. a brain hemorrhage almost killed the rocker. and now members of his band reveal the desperate will to live. and how he pulled through. plus, we've got the latest
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on the flooding in nashville. we're going to go live to music city where country's biggest stars are helping their neighbors. all next on "larry king live." >> larry: good evening. lawrence taylor, nfl hall of famer, maybe the greatest football player ever, was charged today with third-degree rape and patronizing a 16-year-old prostitute. he was arrested in a suburb, a holiday inn suburb in new york city, the holiday inn was in the suburb. taylor was not asked to enter a plea at his court appearance today, but his attorney strongly denies the charges. now, his wife was booked to appear on this show. lynette taylor called us just 25 minutes ago. she told me that she has complete faith in her husband, that she loves her husband and that she believes he was setup.
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that this was all a plot to kind of nab him by enemy. she didn't go into detail. she said she was going to go into detail on this program tonight. unfortunately, 25 minutes ago, she canceled. we begin with mark geragos, the famed criminal defense attorney. later we'll get into the bret michaels' story, and of course more on this as well. what do you make of this. >> well, before you jump to a conclusion, i mean the two people who are claiming to be the accuser and the witness are a pimp, a self-styled pimp, and a 16-year-old runaway. i don't want to blame anybody, but he deserves a presumption of innocence, and it does have the earmarks of a setup or somebody who, at least, was trying to contrivsomething. >> larry: now this is not an indictment, right. >> no. >> larry: standard in new york, you bring a charge, do they investigate? do they go to the hotel? what do they do when you bring a charge? >> it doesn't sound like given the timing of this -- and obviously we're speculating -- but it doesn't sound like a
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whole lot of investigation done. it sounds like a 16-year-old, who apparently, made a claim. they went to the area where he was. >> larry: to the hotel. >> found him at the hotel and then they arrest him. but clearly there wasn't enough time do any kind of a dna, unless he admitted to doing something, which would surprise me if his lawyer's out there vigorously denying it, it would appear to me, at least that there's a lot more going on than what we're led to believe. >> larry: help me, someone brings a charge, any girl, anywhere brings any charge against any man, anywhere they have to arrest? >> no, they do not have to arrest. in fact a lot of times what they will do, a good police investigation will try to piece together, if it's a he said/she said. they'll try to find surveillance tapes. because nowadays, there are tapes everywhere, video everywhere. you'll try to get dna. you'll try to get an admission. police love admissions from a suspect because that does their job for them. >>. >> larry: now he's had a troubled past but his attorney stated firmly today that
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lawrence's drug days are over. watch. >> lawrence taylor did not have consensual sex with anybody last night. he is charged with rape. lawrence taylor did not rape anybody. >> larry: that's pretty strong statement. >> i was going to say that's a pretty strong statement. it leads you to believe that he did not cop-out to anything, that he did not make a statement where he said, yes, i did it. otherwise the lawyer would have some real problems, i think, later on. and i'll go back to it again, somebody in his position is always going to be a target. that's one of the unfortunate problems with being a, you know, a larger-than-life and he's literally a larger-than-life sports figure. everybody knows who lawrence taylor is. >> larry: the bail hearing took a half hour. normally it's four seconds, right? apparently the judge the whole thing read, right? >> exactly right. >> larry: get it for television? >> well, sometimes you -- you wonder about certain judges when it's a media case.
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we always joke about people say, do you want a sequestered jury? and i say no, i would like a sequested judge, because there are times, and unfortunately that some judges get influenced by the media. there's other judges, and i had the good fortune of appearing in front of them, who don't do anything different. and go out of their way to bend over backwards to do it the right way. i don't know this particular judge so i can't judge him at all. >> larry: bail is $75,000, about right? >> that's i believe about the schedule there in new york. if the allegation is that it's -- that it's consensual sex, although you can't give the consent because of the age, then that seems to be right, just about right. >> larry: is this different than a 18-year-old high school student with a 17-year-old girl? >> well, the law treats it differently. the law, generally in that kind of -- >> larry: one, they're both adult with a minor. >> adult with a minor, but in the case of an 128-year-old with
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a 17-year-old here in california, for instance, a way to make that a wobbler, or make it a misdemeanor if you want, and a lot of time prosecutors will either not file that or try to -- try to give you some kind of a disposition to make sense. this is a more serious case because the allegation is at least that she is performing sex, presumably, with a pimp. i don't know whether they're claiming that money exchanged hands or something else exchanged. i mean there are terms that are used. the term strawberry comes to light. a woman who trades sex for drugs. but the -- you just don't know until we get more of the facts. i would -- i would caution everybody to hold judgment because because lawrence taylor may have had problems with drugs does not make him a rapist. >> larry: ask about that when we come back, robin sax the former l.a. county deputy d.a., former prosecuting attorney for the child sexual assault division, will join us. don't go away. i got into one of the best schools in the country!
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mr. taylor is denying and preparing to fight each and every one of these charges. it's very interesting how the story started off this morning. that he was -- physically assaulted somebody, and that's been -- the record's been cleared that lawrence taylor didn't assault anybody. and the record should be very clear as to what the charges are. the charges are that there was a consensual sexual act that took place here. there's no violence. there's no force. there's no threats. there's no weapons. >> larry: mark geragos with us. we're joined by robin sax the former l.a. county deputy d.a. and a former prosecuting on attorney for the l.a. county sex crimes unit. would it be held against him more because he has had trouble in the past? not of this kind, but of drugs leaving the scene of an accident, robin? >> well, i'm sure any excellent defense attorney will go to
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great lengths to get any sort of criminal background out of the realm -- >> larry: but public knows it? >> the public knows it but that doesn't mean it's going to make it's way into the courtroom. >> the problem is, the problem is if you've got a troubled past the prosecutor knows it, much more likely to jump on you. >> larry: that's what i was going to ask. are you more likely to jump on a lawrence taylor than a lawrence smith. >> i actually prosecuted lawrence phillips too. let's not forget him in the lawrences. but no, lawrence in the case like this, i mean frankly, the prosecutors that are generally in sex crimes unit in they were like i was in the sex crimes unit i didn't care about the drug stuff. if i saw other violent crimes, other crimes against children you bet you i would be all over that but some drug stuff that will not make the decision. >> larry: how is the prosecutor if you have a case brought by a 16-year-old prostitute with a pimp. >> well, i really resent using the word prostitute when you talk about a 16-year-old, because a 16-year-old -- the connotation of prostitution is almost as bad as the connotation
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drug user/drug dealer. >> larry: what should we call it. >> trade sex for money the definition is prostitution. >> under 16 and it's a pimp it's called human trafficking. >> not if under 16. 16 and over it depends on the jurisdiction. >> well if the jurisdiction is in new york and in new york the consent is 16. >> larry: what's the effect on the prosecutor of the background of the accuser? >> well, the background of the accuser's always relevant in terms of how it goes to credibility. is this someone who's going to be credible or is not but you can make a case, weakness. face it perpetrators look for weak victims and you can have the most honest, wonderful prostitute ever. if she gets up on the stand and says my job is being a prostitute and the prosecutors says how many times have you consensually had sex for money? and she says 500 times and then the prosecutor says out of those 500 times have you gotten money for sex how many times you have called the cops, and she says once. >> the problem remains that you've got somebody who apparently has runaway from
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home, has been found, who's making up stories. the story's evolved. before you start painting this 16-year-old as mother teresa's emaculate conception why don't we see whether or not there's anything here to this story? there's something about this story that just doesn't pass the smell test. >> larry: gain joined us late his wife lynette agreed to be on this program, canceled 25 minutes to go on. you would guess that the lawyer advised her. >> at this inception of the case that the wife will go on tv and have you grill her. >> larry: she totally defends him, says she's in love with him and completely believes in him and she says he believes he was setup. on the other hand, do don't you have a plus as a client when he's one of the the most popular players in the history of new york? >> he will have a presumption of innocence that, as she says, a larry phillips or a larry smith would not have. if you're famous you get a
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presumption of innocence. if you're infamous you do not. well, a difference between being infamous and famous. he is somebody who is in new york by all accounts beloved. always has been. and outside of new york. i mean, anybody who's a football fan or has a passing familiarity with football has to be impressed by his career and the things he's done since and although he's had missteps. >> larry: you're watching him on "dancing with the stars" right now. what generally happens in this kind of thing, robin? is there a general story to this kind of charge and where it goes? >> well, generally, or immediately what would have happened today would had been a multidisciplinary team would have assembled. what that means members of the prosecutor's office, members of social workers, department children family services, advocates so forth, would conduct a one-stop interview so the victim wouldn't have to have multiple interviews, only have one and off. various agencies interested in the case would be able to ask those questions and from those questions the investigation
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would pursue. >> larry: aren't you suspicious that a working girl brings a charge now? >> listen -- >> larry: assuming she's had other work? >> well, i have to tell you, that doesn't really scare me especially when you look at a simultaneous, fresh complaint to her uncle at a time when she's run away still at the scene of the crime. so i would be a little bit more concerned if this was some sort of delayed report a week or two later. let me go back to that lawrence guy, maybe he's got money that kind of thing. but in a case where it's all simultaneous like that makes me more comfortable. >> larry: is it a crime if taylor presumes she's not young. does he have to know the age. >> there's a jurisdiction in the common law is different depending on the majority of the majority of the states. in this case, however, he's taking the position, at least he's staking it out, that there was no sex. so the issue of i thought she was 18, is it going to come up?
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apparently at least that's what they've staked up in the bail hearing and outside of the courthouse steps. >> that's a scary way to go, don't you agree? >> if you're going to take that position and -- >> larry: got to be right. >> a lawyer, talk on your client assume that there's no dna. >> larry: does dna come into in, robin? >> absolutely and dna of any sort. so anything that suggests that the dna is there a suffers on corroboration. she's saying that it's consensual and they'll obviously believe that she's underage which would be a strict liability so the only route that he can go is i didn't do it. >> larry: is the odo ods are, plea bargaining? >> well, he's only facing that the point a maximum of four years, so that doesn't give -- >> larry: not only, that's four years -- four years is four years. >> well -- >> you do what she does for a living, four years sometimes seems like a walk in the park. i mean in california, at least, virtually every sex crimes punishable by multiple variance of life sentences. >> that's true. so when you're starting with the
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max of four years i mean really prosecutors are somewhat like used car salesman and they try to find the best deal in some cases. >> larry: as a prosecutor do you need a very good witness? does this girl really have to be super on the stand. >> you know i don't like to look at witnesses as performers. you need a lot of super, corroboration. something that makes super sense. you also have that but the chain of events that happen. does her story check out and make sense? does she admit her weaknesses? does she try not to come out as mothertoriesa? look i did this, that, the other, does it really ringtrue? the p.u. test a big test here. >> the real question here is when he's say iing he didn't do and she's saying he did if there's no dna anywhere that links to him there's no case. >> oh, i don't necessarily agree with that. >> i'll take that case all day long. if there's no dna that case -- this case doesn't go anywhere. >> larry: okay -- >> injuries that have -- that are consistent --
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>> there's no dna. >> larry: we're sorry that lynette taylor decided to cancel. we thank mark geragos and robin sax and obviously we've not heard the last of the lawrence taylor story. bret michaels' band mates are breathing sighs of relief because he's going to make it. they're here next along with his doctor. don't go away.
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>> larry: the attorneyings by the way for ms. lynette taylor have decided not to speak to the media concerning the allegations that her husband faces at this time. ms. taylor stands vehemently behind her husband's innocence. there are a plethora of issues that need to be resolved before mts taylor can make a statement and they apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. ms. taylor has agreed to come on this show next week. bret michaels was released from a phoenix hospital on tuesday after spending 12 days there
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being treated for a massive brain hemorrhage. the rock and reality tv star has several weeks of recovery ahead of him. he told "people" magazine, i'm lucky to be alive. we're joined by pete edwick, pete is the lead guitarist for the bret michaels' band. tour manager for bret michaels. he's been in phoenix with bret since the brain hemorrhage occurred. this is his first tv interview about what happened to bret. dr. joseph zabransky, is chief of sero vascular surgery at barrow neurologcam institute head of the medical team that treated bret and quite an occupation. and rikki rockett, longtime friend. drummer of the band poison. doctor, how is he doing? and what -- how do you rate this recovery? >> well, he's doing really well. you know, it's -- it's been quite a battle for him. we were really very concerned
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initially and once we were able to rule out the fact that he did not have an aneurysm or other problems affecting the blood vessels, we were able to downgrade his condition and release him. right now he's continuing, although he's doing well mentally, he's suffering a great deal with the effects of the hemorrhage. i've mentioned before that there was blood released around the brainstem. and this blood is now dissolving. that blood did its job initially. it formed the clot around the brainstem and it stopped the bleeding but now -- but now that the bleeding's completely stopped the blood is breaking down, and this -- when the blood is released, mr. king, it really -- it causes severe irritation to the coverings of the brain and the spinal cord. >> larry: pete, hold on a second, doctor. pete, you have spoken to bret? >> yes, sir, yes, i have. >> larry: tell me how he's
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doing. >> you know bret's the kind of guy whose will to live is amazing so for anybody in this kind of situation i'm sure that he's doing spectacular, but the bret that's my best buddy and everything is a little slower you know in motion than i'm used to seeing. >> larry: where is he right now? >> he's in a rehabilitation center right now. >> larry: does he regard him -- he said he was lucky. did he express that to you? does he feel lucky? >> absolutely. i mean you know i can tell you that sitting in the hospital and seeing some of the other patients that were there before him and after him that quite honestly didn't get out, really hit home to him. it really -- i don't know if the word shook is the right way to say, but he -- he's definitely realized how lucky he is in his life and in walking away from this situation and continuing to see his daughters and his family. >> larry: rikki rockett's in
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harrisburg, a longtime friend and bandmate of bret michaels. have you been in touch, rikki, with bret? >> i have been. as a matter of fact, i talked to bret this morning. after this occurred i came in i think a day after it occurred and i spent couple of days with him. and he's doing a whole lot better today than he was when i -- when i saw him a couple of weeks ago. i mean, but at the same time, i don't think that he should be operating heavy machinery or going on "dancing with the stars" anytime soon. but he's doing a lot better than he was. >> larry: would you say he's upbeat? >> at times he's upbeat. i think he's -- you know look, he was -- he was going crazy in that place because you know you have a code blue here and another emergency coming in there and it can -- it can be depressing. and i think for him just to get into a rehabilitation center where people are getting better, i think was a huge step for him because now he sounds a whole
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lot better on the phone than he did even a few days ago. >> larry: when when we come back we're going to show you bret's brain, really. and the doctor will explain to us what we're seeing. don't go away. [ wind whistling ] [ music playing in distance ] ♪ ...sun shine in ♪ let the sun shine [ male announcer ] open yourself up to a whole new driving experience. introducing a mercedes-benz convertible that controls the wind and keeps you comfortable in any season. the e-cabriolet, newest member of the amazing e-class family. the thrill of opening it up. i hope he has that insurance. aflac! you really need it these days. how come? well if you're hurt and can't work it pays you cash...
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i really expect that he will fortunately make a 100% recovery. and again he's just one of those lucky people, the 20% or so, the 10% to 20% who have a subakular hemorrhage who make a complete recovery and they're able to resume all of their normal activities. >> larry: we're now going to show you bret's brain. and we're going to ask dr. zambraski to tell us what we're looking at, and -- well, give us the left and right. can you see it, doctor? >> so on the left-hand side, we have a normal scan from a patient, who does not have a
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subarcnoroid hemorrhagen on the right-hand side you see the scan, at about the same level through the head, which is bret michaels' scan. and you can see the difference immediately between the two scans, in the center of the scan on the right there's an extensive area of white. and that white is the actual clotted blood that escaped from the vessels and the source of his hemorrhage. >> larry: do we know the cause? >> no, we really don't know the cause of his hemorrhage. and this is one of those rare situations where it's not bad that we can't identify the cause. about 15% to 20% of the patientings that present with subacnoroid hemorrhage under initial studies have -- we are unable to identify a cause and then if that continues, then those patients have no further risk of bleeding.
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>> larry: pete, bret says that when he went to the emergency room he felt like someone shot him in the back of the head. were you with him then, or did he describe it to you shortshor >> thereafter. >> nef no, sir i wasn't with him but i was on the east coast. i was on my way out to finish our new record when this all happened. he did describe it to me and the look in his eyes was -- was pretty amazing and scary. you know he -- he was very aware that something was incredibly wrong. and that he could possibly die. you know the one thing he described to me was the will to live was that, you know, christi and his daughters would not see him dead. so whatever it took at that moment to get him to the hospital, something intervened and he knew that it was tragic and terrible and it's amazing that it was dealt with the way it was. >> larry: rikki, you talked to him while he was in the hospital. did he ever think that he was going to buy it?
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>> you know i don't think so. i mean if he did, he was covering it up pretty well to me. i said it before and i'll say it again he's kind of like the evil knievel of hard rock singers you know. >> that he is. >> he can get busted up but you just don't kill him, you know? so no, i don't think that he believed it for a second that he was going to go down and honest to god i didn't either. if he was giving meet impression that he wasn't going to go down i was going to give him the impression right back out that he wasn't going to go down and that's just how we are as a band. >> larry: doctor, how was this treated? >> well, you know the first thing we did, mr. king, was that as soon as we transferred him to the barrow neurological institute we began a series of examinations looking at his blood vessel and we did two angiograms within hours of his admission. one is called a ct angiogram and doesn't involve any injections
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in his arteries and when that is negative -- it's a good screening test, it's probably positive in 95% of patients but when that's negative we move onto a second, more invasive and riskier type of angiogram and these tests were also more somewhat dangerous to mr. michaels because he suffers from type one diabetes and the kidneys can be damaged by these dyes so we were very concerned about limiting the amount of dye that we gave. after that second angiogram was negative we kind of -- you know had a good sigh of -- we breathed a sigh of relief, but we know that about, oh, maybe 10% of the time, we miss the aneurysm on that first start of the studies so he wasn't out of woods that the point and we still remained you know, very, very concerned for him. >> larry: still concerned? >> no, not at this point. now, his seventh day in the hospital, we did a third angiogram. and our experience is that if a third angiogram is negative,
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then there's really nothing wrong with the blood vessels. as a mentioned about 10% of the time we miss an aneurysm or some other problem with the blood vessels on the first set of studies, but if we do this delayed second set of studies seven days out and it's negative, at that point we downgraded his condition from critical to stabile. >> larry: pete, would you say bret is an upbeat kind of guy? >> absolutely. you know when you meet bret michaels under whatever circumstances you meet him you're instantly -- you're instantly drawn to the fact that he lives every day like i've said before like it's his first and it's his last. he has no room for laziness or any kind of just dragging your feet around. bret is a very upbeat guy. take the day and run with it type of -- wonderfully inspirational to be around. >> larry: his personalitied help?
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>> absolutely. >> larry: we'll take a break and be back with more. you're watching "larry king live" on cnn. still lots more to come. don't go away. i thought i was invincible. i'm on an aspirin regimen now because i never want to feel that helplessness again. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. talk to your doctor, and take care of what you have to take care of. when you least expect it... a regular moment can become romantic. and when it does, men with erectile dysfunction
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>> larry: we're back. rikki, has the band poison remained close over the years? >> well, we've had our ups and downs, but i think when something like this happens, you know, things that really matter, you come together. you know bret and i have a lot of things in common. one of the biggest things we have in common is that we're both fathers. he has two daughters i have a 10-month-old son and all of a sudden when you're facing death, things change. you know, you -- you become a little bit more of a fighter. and i think that's one of the things that really pulled him through, was for his daughters. i think that was a big, a big count for him. >> larry: pete, has girlfriend christie gibson, she took hims to the hospital. how is she doing? >> you know, she's shown
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incredibly -- an incredible amount of strength through all of this. you've got to attribute her to saving his life because of her calmness during the event probably kept him calm. she was the one that said let's not panic and let's get you to the hospital right away. and even -- even at the hospital -- bret is a -- i mean you can't believe how much of i guess you'd say just a man bret is and growing up on the east coast, you know, that he didn't even -- once they were at the hospital, he still didn't want to get out of the car, and he was like well, maybe this will just go away, and it was christie that was able to tell him that you've got to go to the hospital and do this and so she stayed strong and had to take care of the children through this and there was a lot of, i would imagine, there was a lot of turmoil in her head. do i take care of my daughters? do i take care of bret because they weren't in the same places? and you know, so she did a wonderful, wonderful job in all of this.
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>> larry: you mentioned, doctor, that you were thankful it was not an aneurysm. what is an aneurysm and if he had had an aneurysm would it have killed him? >> well, an aneurysm is a weak -- a weakening of the blood vessel and the blood vessel balloons out. and as it enlarges the wall becomes weaker. and at some point the aneurysm can rapture. if you're lucky the bleeding stops, and -- but the problem is that there's a very high risk of rebleeding. and for that first -- each day the risk continues. so it's very important, if we find an aneurysm, that we treat it right away. we either clip the aneurysm or coil it. so the fact that he didn't have an aneurysm means that the risk of rebleeding was smaller, but as i mentioned earlier there's about a 10% chance from that first series of studies that we might miss the cause. so -- >> larry: yeah undergone an
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appendectomy a week before. the two at all joined together? any leading one to the other? >> no, i don't believe they were directly related to each other. the problem is that you know, he was still recovering from the appendectomy. and then he has this second insult, you know, another major insult to his body. and ends up back in the hospital, critically ill. you know, this is -- this is a lot to ask for anyone. >> larry: pete, what's the story with the career now? >> as far as -- i mean, bret has every intention of continue on as anybody's ever known him that that's his life and it's his passion. you know rikki can tell you poison is looking forward to their 25th anniversary next somer. that's a huge deal. i mean who gets to have a rock and roll career for 25 years? most people get a year or two, if they're lurk lucky and bret's been an incredible star and
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incredible shape for 25 years and us with this solo band this summer, we were going out with lynard skynyrd which is one of bret's favorite ban, they're legends and bret was very excited to get out and perform with his heroes and his legends and peers like that, and so as far as the career go, he's going to take care of himself. he's going to heal and he's going to come back and show the world that he's completely unstoppable. i'm sure of that. >> larry: rikki, is poison going to do something next year? >> yes, sir. as we have every intention of doing it. bret and i as a matter of fact talked about it this morning when we were on the phone. and we have every intention of doing a 25th anniversary next summer and i really strongly believe he's going to make it, and that's what we're going to be doing next year. we're going on keep working. >> larry: doc zambraski what's the incident of a recurrence.
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>> fortunately for this type hemorrhage once we've done the three separate angiograms the chance of recurrence is no higher for the general population and this includes of course, you, mr. king, and myself. so any of us could have this happen and bret is really at no higher risk. >> larry: is it the same risk for men and women? >> for this type of hemorrhage, it does seem to be about the same risk. now for aneurysms women outnumber men 2 to 1. >> larry: wow we don't have much time, but why? >> just a genetic predisposition to aneurysm formation in women versus men. for example, men have a higher incidence of heart disease. women have a higher incidence of disease affecting the blood vessels in the brain. >> larry: thank you, all, very much. pete evick, lead guitarist. dr. joseph zambraski and treated him of course rikki longtime
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>> larry: anderson cooper is in nashville tonight, reporting from one of the neighborhood's hardest hit by the devastating floods. i know you've got a big show tonight, anderson. what's it like? >> larry, i've never seen a community come together so quickly as the folks here in nashville has. ip mean there are thousands of homes which have been destroyed, people's possessions out on the streets but there are thousands of volunteers, individuals, church groups which have just come together to help complete strangers, to help their neighbors, their fellow countryman. it is an incredible thing to see. we'll be showing you. is that tonight. we're out on the river today searching for a 39 year old man
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by the name of danny tomlinson who is still missing now. his family is desperate. they were out on the river today, cadaver dogs with them, we were with them. we'll show that to you as well and also talk to tim mcgraw and faith hill, brad paisley we'll be talking to here live and kenny chesney as well about what they have seen in their community and how this city is rising. the water is falling, and this city is rising. it is coming back strong, and it is something to see and we're going to be broadcasting that tonight. we'll also bring you the latest on the oil spill in the gulf. some new developments there to tell you about, so it's a full night here on "360," larry. >> larry: about 30 seconds left. was it worse than you expected? >> you know it's strange after a flood, because i mean the water's gone in a lot of these areas and you go by and the houses from the outside look like they're okay and then you walk inside and they're just completely devastated inside and already people have been you know yanking out the drywall, taking out the insulation so the mold doesn't spread.
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but there is so much need here and a lot of these folks here do not have flood insurance and so you know for a lot of folks it's going to be a complete loss. they never expected to have -- you know this is more than a 100-year flood. never expected to have flooding throughout a lot of these regions so it's really tough to see and to see that family out on the river still searching for their son it just break your heart. >> larry: anderson cooper 10:00 eastern, 7:00 pacific, as always on the screen. tonight "cnn hero" is a young man who is uses the sun to light up the night in rural kenya, where more than 27 million people live without electricity. take a look. >> i have problems with my eyesight due to prolonged exposure to smoke. i had to use firework to study during the childhood. it's a beautiful, beautiful
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setting. a lot of kids just drop out of school. they'relife. my name is evans wadongo. i thought i must find a way to help in the rural homes. the amount of money that every household gives back every day. if they can just save that money, they will be able to buy food. it gives me satisfaction knowing that i'm lifting people out of poverty. i just feel like it's right. >> larry: that's pretty amazing to watch our hero build his solar-powered lantern. to nominate someone who you think is changing the world, get on board. go to back with more from nashville after this. >> thank you, thank you.
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>> larry: let's now go to nashville to the ryeman auditorium at the grand ole opry relocation. larry gatlin is on stage, my old friend, a member of the opry since 1976. where, physically, are you. this is a substitute for the ryeman? >> well, no, larry, this is the ryeman auditorium. the opry was here for 50 or 60 years. they later moved out to the new opry out on the cumberland river, but we've been rg the opry country classics right here at the old ryeman back when i first sang with dotty west in 1971. we do the thursday night opry here. and people have been asking us about the condition. the grand old opry is not a building, the grand old opry is a show and it's people with heart and soul and talent. so the grand old opry is continuing. we're going to have it -- yeah!
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there they are! god love them. >> larry: wow. >> okay, okay. but tomorrow night, right here from the ryeman -- go ahead, larry, i'm sorry. >> larry: tomorrow night what? >> tomorrow night right here on this stage, brad paisley will be here for the friday night opry on the ryeman stage. on friday night, alan jackson will be here for the grand old opry. on tuesday night, the old possum, george jones will be right here on the ryeman. and like i say, during all that time, the grand ole opry will keep going. nashville is alive and well. we are in business. so you people who have airline tickets and -- well, maybe not hotel ticks, but anyway, at least one hotel is that high in water. but our mission is to clean it up, to restore it, to rebuild it and to move back.
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so that's what we're going to do with the old opry out on the cumberland river. we're not going to quit. these -- >> larry: how's your -- larry, frankly, how old is the city holding up? that was pretty horrific. >> well, it was horrific, larry. i was in austin, texas, when it all came down and i woke up one morning though these floods in nashville and the pictures were incredible. my son, josh, sent me a picture of the 13th fairway at the brentwood country club, it looked like the mississippi river, except service flowing faster. today when i came in, when i flew in, i didn't really see a bunch of water. here's the thing. thank god the water is down, but thank god the people are not down. they have arisen and they're helping each other and they're praying for each other. so like i say, we're open for business. these tennessee folks, they're a hardy breed of folk. they're helping each other. i went over to the college today, they opened up the gymnasium and had 150 people in
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there, with little kids eating oranges and bananas and listening to this country singer they've never heard before. so people are helping out. and in times of trial, i think that's what americans do. we stand shoulder to shoulder and we help each other out. and that's what this city is doing and we're going to get passed this. >> larry: is this -- is the country music hall of fame, is that still closed? >> i will ask someone. country music hall of fame, eddy, is it still closed? it is open -- huh? the electricity is back. that's good. that means they've got lights on. the country music hall of fame, just a few blocks from here. i think most of the things downtown is open again. tootsies is open, huh? yeah, you can get a cold beer and a bowl of chili at tootsies. main street, you know, broadway is open. like i say, we're open for business. so come on down and we'd love to have you. we really would. >> larry: i understand ten areas have been declared disaster
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areas. is help coming quickly in your opinion? >> well, i believe, first of all, i believe people are supposed to help themselves. and your neighbors are supposed to help you. and whether you want to depend on the government or whatever, but as far as i know, as far as i know, the statewide help and i guess federal help has come to this little bird. but like i say, people in this town, they didn't wait around for anybody. they got shovels and got after it. >> larry: hey, larry, you go back to work, we'll go back to work. go get them, larry, baby, you're the best. >> god love, you larry. thank you for coming to nashville. we appreciate it! give him a hand, everybody. >> larry: larry gatlin, on stage in the middle of his concert. a sad note here in the closing. the brutal murder of university of virginia student yeardley love has shaken a lot of people. her family has remained silent in their grief until now. they've reached out to this program because our executive producer, wendy walker, is a
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family friend. they want to share some pictures of yeardley, who was only 22 years old, when she was taken from them. she lost her father to cancer a few years back. her mother, sharon, is a teacher for deaf and hard of hearing children in the baltimore city public school system. yeardley was a hard worker. she had a job every summer. yeardley's mother and her oldest sister, lexy, tell us that yeardley is the most kindest and most gentle sister and we can't imagine our lives without her. her aunt debby said she was an adorable, fun-loving darling angel. yeardley's family knows she's in heaven and they're praying for her. they also ask that members of the press respect their need for privacy in this terribly painful time. at the family's request, we are posting their photos of yeardley love on our website, so people can remember


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