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reuniting pets and survivors. >> terry crisp joins me. she is in sacramento, california. good to see you. >> good to see you, anderson, too. this is tabasco. he was one of the survivors from hurricane katrina. he was found on the washing machine of a house that was flooded. he, his sister and another dog all survived. >> turns out, i didn't know it at the time, there were serious questions about noah's wish and a legal settlement with the state of california. wreef been reporting on this for weeks now as part of a continuing investigation to the people asking you for money. to charities. and what they do with the money they raise. one thing we have not been able to do is confront terry crisp. that is, till tonight. here's drew griffin. >> reporter: it is the televised appeal on cnn's hln -- >> our salute to the troops today is actually live in the studio. >> reporter: that so many of you found outrageous. >> sitting right beside nugget is terry with the spca and ivy's down at my feet.
>> reporter: march of 2011. terry crisp with spca international was telling our viewers ivy and nugget -- >> look at that face! >> reporter: -- were two bomb sniffing dogs that had worked for a u.s. contractor in rark and had been essentially abandoned by the company. she rescued them and was trying to find them homes. along for the visit was an unwitting dog handler. hln anchor robin meade understandably couldn't believe the story. >> so how is it that they fall through the cracks and get stranded there? that's unthinkable to me. >> it is unthinkable. that's why spca international is making sure these dogs don't get forgotten. that they get brought home. >> reporter: it turns out ivy and nugget were not abandoned. they were donated. taken from their adoptive homes in iraq, a military contractor tells cnn. after terry crisp asks for them. the military contractor, reed security, told cnn they had no
idea crisp would use ivy and nugget as fund-raising tools in the united states. for weeks, cnn has been trying to track down crisp. first we were told by her spokesperson she was unavailable. this week, we drove to crisp's rural home, down this dirt road in the foothills of california's sierra nevada and found crisp driving straight towards us. miss crisp, it's drew give within cnn. we would sure like to talk to you. terry crisp, dog in hand, got out of her car and walked right up to our camera and acted like she was about to answer our questions. >> this is not the place to do an interview. >> reporter: well, what is the place to do an interview? we've been trying to get an interview with you for a long, long time. specifically to ask you about operation baghdad pups. >> yeah, stephanie scott, our director of communications, has communicated with you directly -- >> reporter: yeah, i understand that, but can you tell us why you came on cnn and basically lied to our viewers about ivy and nugget?
>> you need to talk to stephanie -- >> reporter: i think you need to talk to our viewers and explain to us what operation baghdad pups is all about because it appears to be a fund-raising effort for your lifestyle and quadriga art, quite frankly. >> like i said, again, you need to contact stephanie. all our interviews are coordinated through her. we've offered to do them with you. >> reporter: you've been on our air, ma'am. you told our viewers ivy and nugget were abandoned military dogs. which we confirmed they were not. you got an outpouring of support and most likely money after that appearance. our viewers and so do we, cnn feels like we were lied to. do you have any explanation for how that happened? >> this, like i said, is not the time and place. we're happy to talk to you. everything has to be coordinated through our director of communications. >> reporter: crisp is part of spca international.
a group raising millions of dollars with its sympathetic fund-raising campaign called baghdad pups. according to these irs tax filings, spca international has taken in more than $26 million in donations over the past three years. $23 million of that money has gone right into the coffers of the direct mail company quadriga art, not towards rescuing military dogs. what has it done with the rest of the remaining $3 million? spca international says it rescued about 447 soldiers' pets from iraq and afghanistan. but bob ottenhof, the president of the charity watchdog group guide star, says the numbers just don't seem to add up. >> i can't understand how to connect the dots between how much money is spent on fund-raising to how much money is spent on programming and what the sources of those revenues are, and i also can't really measure the impact of this organization.
what difference are they really making? >> reporter: and this isn't the first time terry crisp has been at the center of a questionable charitable fund-raising drive involving animals. in 2005, after hurricane katrina, she showed up on tv stations and networks, including cnn, claiming to be rescuing stranded animals as part of her animal rescue charity called noah's wish. this is a former bookkeeper for noah's wish who wants to conceal her identity unrelated to her work at the charity. she says she watched soon after katrina as the donations came pouring in. >> there was cash. there were checks. there were cashier's checks. there were letters, heartbreaking letters, from kids, that instead of having birthday parties, they wanted all the money to go to noah's wish to help those poor little animals. on a given day we would have, oh, my gosh, easily, $20,000. >> wow.
>> yeah. just in checks. >> reporter: and, she says, suddenly terry crisp changed. hiring her daughter and acting as if the money was hers to keep. >> they did. they did. terry at one time said that i've worked so hard for so many years doing animal rescue. i'm entitled to this money. >> reporter: salaries? >> yes. six-digit salaries. >> reporter: for mom and daughter? >> for mom and daughter. >> reporter: the bookkeeper and others went to california's attorney general, which investigated. the noah's wish organization signed a settlement agreement with the state, agreeing to forfeit $4 million. and terry crisp was banned from being an officer or director of any charity for five years. let me ask you about noah's wish which you're no longer with -- >> i can't talk about that either. >> reporter: terry crisp refused to talk about anything. when you were the director of noah's wish, did you pay yourself a six-figure salary, along with your daughter?
>> i'm not going to talk about that. >> reporter: you did, didn't you? >> i didn't pay -- i didn't set up my salary, it was done by the board of directors. >> reporter: crisp maintains she is now just an employee of spca international, not a director, and by not talking, she's just following orders. i'll give you one more opportunity to explain why you came on cnn and basically lied about those two quote/unquote military contract dogs. >> well, like i said, we would be happy to do an interview, but we have procedures in place and everything has to go through stephanie and we have been in communication with you. we've provided you with lots of information and you've taken a lot of that information and not reported it correctly. >> reporter: now's your chance, ma'am. >> i would love to but i said, you know, i'm an employee -- >> reporter: how much do you make? >> not a lot for what i do. >> reporter: can you give me a figure? >> no. i'm be going to reveal that. i can't answer any of your
questions right now. believe me, i would love to. >> it's amazing. ed you you'd think if she had nothing to hide she'd take advantage of you being there and tell you the good things she's done and what's happened to those millions of dollars. >> she's had plenty of time to think about it, anderson. we have been trying to get a sit-down interview with terry crisp for weeks and weeks, working with that communications director she mentioned. but we never got a clear answer when we could talk to terry crisp which is why we drove up to her home, trying to get some kind of comment. that communications director, by the way, anderson, called us right after and said, hey, now that you've done this, the odds are you're never going to get an interview with crisp. >> i have my doubts whether she ever planned to talk to you, regardless. could crisp be in trouble with the state of california? >> you know, she may be. the attorney general's office here in california, we know, is actively reviewing that settlement agreement that was signed by noah's wish. we don't have the details of how
far that review has gone. there may be some trouble down the road for terry crisp. we'll just have to stand by and let you know what happens when the a.g.'s office releases its report. >> there's also breaking news on another story drew has been reporting on. it involves toyota. all those cases of sudden unintended acceleration. toyota cars and trucks without explanation surging ahead, out of the driver's control. what's going on with that, drew? >> well, you know, toyota has been relying on that government agency's report. the national highway traffic safety administration's report, which basically toyota says cleared it of any electronic problems with any unintended acceleration in its vehicles. today, the ranking member, republican ranking member of the judiciary committee, senator charles grassley, says that's not good enough. he's asking nhtsa, that agency, to relook at all the data and reinvestigate sudden acceleration.
here's why, anderson. he says it was too narrow in scope and the senator also says he has whistle blowers coming forward to him, saying that that nhtsa investigation may have been flawed. that's senator grassley's words. he wants to take another look at it. there have been 9,600 or so reported cases of this. you know, last march, we reported on your show, anderson about an internal testing document we got out of toyota, which seemed to indicate to us and a lot of electrical engineers we talked to that they did find electrical sudden unintended acceleration in one of its proto-type vehicles. toyota says that is not the case. the key thing is, we don't have any evidence that test was part of the government's review. we'll see what happens. senator grassley asking for a whole other investigation into unintended acceleration with toyota vehicles. >> appreciate the update. we received a statement from a toyota spokesman. there's no problem with the electronic throttle control systems in toyota vehicles.
and all the scientific evidence confirms it. you can read the rest of toyota's statement on our website. let us know what you think. we're on facebook. follow me on twitter. @andersoncooper. mitt romney says he left bain capital in 1999 to run the utah olympics. now s.e.c. filings list him as chairman and ceo for days after that. we'll tell you why it could impact the election. thought of -- fidelity. now you don't have to go to a bank to get the things you want from a bank, like no-fee atms, all over the world. free checkwriting and mobile deposits. now depositing a check is as easy as taking a picture. free online bill payments. a highly acclaimed credit card with 2% cash back into your fidelity account. open a fidelity cash management account today and discover another reason serious investors are choosing fidelity.
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raw politics now. revelations casting doubt on a key claim by the romney campaign and the candidate himself leading the obama campaign to suggest mr. romney may have committed a crime. heated stuff. here's what it's all about. mr. romney has of course spent the last few months trying to make sure the obama campaign does not define a narrative of his career in the private sector. the greedy out of touch rich guy whose company bain capital closed companies, killed jobs, to make a quick buck. that's what they want. mr. romney said many of the allegations don't count because he'd already left the firm. >> well, the most recent attacks are really off target. and i think they know that. they said, oh, gosh, governor roey at bain capital closed
down a steel factory. but their problem of course is that the steel factory closed down two years after i left bain capital. i was no longer there. so that's hardly something which is on my watch. >> the key development in today's story is the year, 1999. that's when mr. romney says he left bain to run the winter olympics in salt lake city. a number of news outlets uncovered filings with the securities and exchange commission which show him still on the corporate books through 2001. they list romney as ceo, president and managing director of bain capital. you can take a look right there. the question of course is did mr. romney exercise an active role at the time? was he actually making management decisions? or was this just some kind of clerical artifact of his leaving so suddenly? the romney campaign telling us, quote, the article is not accurate. as bain capital has said. as governor romney has said and has been confirmed multiple times. governor romney left bain capital in february of 1999 to run the olympics and had no
input on investments or management of companies after that point. the obama campaign on the other hand is playing this up. spokeswoman stephanie cutter telling us, quote this puts him at the center of responsibility for troubling investments involving outsourcing and bankruptcies. it also raises serious questions about why he misrepresented date of his departure. because there is still more about this period and beyond he doesn't want people to know. campaign counsel bob bower going further. he says the question of the truth in sec filings would trigger an investigation, as well as civil violations of the law. romney campaign is demanding an apology from president obama for that. let's get some perspective. let's step back a little bit. from chief national correspondent john king. and senior political analyst david gergen. when the romney campaign says he had nothing to do with the company post-1999, is there any
reason to doubt that's true? what benefit possibly would they get from not being fully accurate about his dealings there? >> when you show those sec filings, there's the reason to doubt it. that's a government document. it is filed with the united states government. here's how they explain it. they say he left in february 1999. that it took almost two years to have the new management team put in place. they're required by law till that new team is in place to list romney as the top guy. is there evidence he had a hands-on role? no. you heard what governor romney said. "the washington post," factcheck.org, our partners at "fortune" magazine. i today have spoke or communicated by e-mail with bain officials. three of the four are democrats. two of them are active obama supporters in campaign 2012. they were all there at the time. they say romney left in a hurry in 1999 to take over the olympics and he was never involved after that. not in any meetings. not signing any documents. not involved in any deals. three of these four democrat, they say what the obama campaign is saying isn't true. >> so, david, is this an overreach, overreaction by the
obama campaign trying to fit into the narrative they've been running with now over the last couple of days? >> it certainly may well be. i talked today to two of the senior leaders of bain capital, people i've known for a long time. they said exactly what john king just reported. that when the request came in from the olympics, for him to come out there, he said, guys, you know, i don't really want to go but i think i must. he left within 5 to 10 days. it was a real hurry. a lot of the documents that pertain to a number of entities took a while to unwind. they were in no hurry because they didn't think there was anything like this coming. but the critical thing is, what they said, to a person, is after february 1999, he made no calls on behalf of bain capital. he made no hiring decisions. he made no investment decisions. they suggested another way to check this would be to talk to people who invested in the next round of fund-raising. money raising for bain capital. about whether they thought he was running things. they said, if you check with him, you'll find they thought he had left.
now, i should tell you, anderson, that i've had not only personal relationships, i started out with bain capital, folks, partners, here in washington. i've had financial dealings with them. i've given a couple of paid speeches for them. i also was part of a company that was sold to bain capital. i was on the board of a company that sold that bain capital. we thought they did a terrific job. i did realize some financial gain from that. having said all that, knowing what i know about the bain capital partnership, how i think they are people of real integrity. they're very well regarded in boston. i think the romney people, the burden is on the obama people to prove this. factcheck.org today, which is a respected organization, said they stood by their reporting. that romney had no active engagement with bain capital after february 1999. i would point out that that report by factcheck.org was co-written by brooks jackson who used to be a very, very good investigative reporter for cnn. >> yeah. both of the campaigns have gone all in this week on the message
that the other side is lying about bain, romney's business record. how critical do they think this debate is to the campaign? and where could it have the biggest impact? >> in some ways, inside the obama campaign, they might say they're winning, a conversation in which we say it doesn't appear what they're saying about governor romney is true. why? because we're not talking about the broad u.s. economy. we're not talking about four months in a role about rather dismal job reports. if it were a republican president right now, they'd be trying to do the same exact thing. get us to talk about anything but the single biggest driving force in american politics which is right now a very weak economy. what are they doing? voters make up their mind over the next couple of months how am i going to vote, the obama campaign wants to say, maybe you don't like me, maybe you're upset with the strength of the economy right now, but look at this other guy. he's greedy. he keeps secrets. he's not telling the truth. you can't trust him. >> david, there's no question this is complicated.
it may take days for reports to get to the bottom of the story. although from you it sounds pretty definitive. if you're the romney campaign, do you want to clear this up complete little or does the ambiguity actually help somehow? or is this -- just having this discussion hurtful? >> i think john is right. every day spent talking about this helps the obama campaign, i think bain capital has a very strong interest in getting the facts out as they know them. and putting it forward. and trying to close the books on it. i also think that over time mitt romney's going to have to provide more of his tax returns than he's been willing to do so far. having said that, again, what's surprising about this is the obama campaign is now playing a very rough form of politics. is that really what we were promised way back when? >> not -- and the answer -- clearly, your indication, is not. >> i don't think so. >> the company called s te ra cycle and what role, if any, romney had in that deal.
what do you know about that? how does it play into this? >> it's one of the reasons people inside the romney campaign and inside bain capital think the obama campaign is trying to stretch the calendar. to try to say governor romney was involved way past february 199. why? in november 1999, bain did invest in a company called stera cycle. it's a medical waste company. among the things it did, excuse me for saying this, was help dispose of aborted fetuses. what some people inside the romney campaign believe is the obama campaign would like to be able to say we've now convinced you he was there into 2000. in 1999, mitt romney who says he is anti-abortion, invested in this company. how would they use that? nobody is sure. inside the campaign, they think it could be used, say, on christian radio. a direct mail piece late in the campaign to try to discourage turnout among social conservatives who would be absolutely critical to any romney path to victory. >> all right. john, appreciate the updates today, david gergen as well. thanks very much.
ahead, scathing report on penn state's handling of the jerry sandusky scandal. if you think you knew a lot about this case, new details today slams the university for what it calls a total and consistent disregard for sandusky's victims. not even mentioning the children for a long time till sandusky was charged and arrested. keeping them honest, we'll talk to the attorney of some of the victims. you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so companies and communities can expand,
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tonight, there are still more questions than answers about congressman jesse jackson jr. it looks like he will not return to work till after labor day. according to abc news, citing a senior aide close to mr. jackson. the congressman is up for re-election in november but has not appeared in the house since late may. he's been on medical leave since june 10. his office released his most detailed statement last night. saying jackson is receiving, quote, intensive medical treatment at a residential treatment facility for a mood disorder and is expected to recover. they quote an unnamed doctor. they didn't go into what mood disorder means. more information, though, than we've had. it is obviously not the whole story. there's been a lot of speculation, rumors, basically false reporting also on this. let's dig deeper with dr. drew penske, host of hln's "dr. drew." when you hear mood disorder. to me that covers a whole
variety of things. what do you make of that? >> really we're talking about depression. or bipolar disorder. what used to be called manic depression. these are one of the most common diagnostic categories for which any individual admitted to a psychiatric hospital. before we get into speculating about congressman jackson, let's be clear. we have no business knowing anything about his medical care. our prayers and thoughts should be with his recovery and that he's getting medical care and nothing more. unfortunately, we still live in a time where people make great distinctions between mental health and physical health. the reality is, we're all just talking about the brain, a biological entity, and we can hope for his recovery. having said that, like you said, they've left us with a statement that is somewhat confusing. let's sort of break it apart. they left this wide swath of mood disorder which means either bipolar or unipolar depression. even when people are admitted to a psychiatric hospital for a mood disorder, often there
are conditions in relation to the mood disorder like substance abuse or alcohol abuse or other conditions. mood disorder is one of them at the top of the page but it's often not the only condition. they say he's in a residential treatment facility. mood disorders aren't treated in a residential treatment facility unless it's chronic severe psychiatric problems for which there's no evidence he has that. by saying residential facility, they really throw this whole thing into question. the only thing treated primarily in a residential facility is addiction and alcoholism. if he was admitted to a psychiatric hospital and not a residential facility it starts to make much more sense. >> could you describe addiction as a mood disorder? >> if you were admitted to a psychiatric hospital, it's often the reason you go to a psychiatric hospital first is because of the instability of a mood disorder which is severe because of substances. you wouldn't typically step a
miss disorder patient. you would step an addiction patient to a residential facility. it may be a euphemism for hospital. unfortunately, they've left us with more questions than answers. the reality is, i wish they'd just said he's sick, he's getting proper care. he's going to be fine. because that's all we have the right to. to be fair. >> it is interesting, the point you raise. the stigma that still exists around mental health issues. the unfair stigma that really exists. that if he was being treated for a, you know, some sort of ailment of, you know, of an organ, would people view that differently than they would if it was depression? i'm guessing some people would and unfairly so. >> absolutely. even if he had a neurological condition that caused, say, behavioral problems, people would go, oh, i get it, his brain. if you say depression, somehow it becomes something about his personhood. which it's not. addiction is a brain disorder. these things have medical treatments.
medical management. they are prognostically very good, provided someone stays in medical care. part of the stigma is avoiding saying hospital and saying residential facility. technically you stay as a resident in a hospital. a residential treatment center is a place for chronic psychiatric patients. and drug addicts and alcoholics. so i'm suspecting he was actually admitted to a psychiatric hospital for a mood disorder. he may or may not have commonic things. who know, none of our business. he's in care. let's say prayers for his positive outcome. >> certainly wish him best. dr. drew, appreciate it. isha's here with a "360" bulletin. >> disturbing word tonight of another massacre in syria. say government forces killed 220 people in the province.
meantime, the ambassador who joined the opposition has been relieved of his duties. they said he made statements contrary to his job duties. nine climbers are dead after an avalanche in the french alps. two others survived the encounter while four others were found to be alive and well. and today marked the 50th anniversary of the rolling stones first gig. the location, a jazz club in london. the stones are celebrating with a photo exhibit in the same city. a new book. and an exclusive interview with reuters, they hinted at a new tour. they aren't slowing down in their late 60s and early 70s. anderson. a new report shows penn state's most powerful leaders showed a, quote, total and consistent disregard for victims of convicted child molester jerry sandusky and even, quoes, empowered jerry sandusky to continue his beauty. it is a devastating report. details. keeping them honest. next. brave knights!
a scathing report about penn state's handing of the jerry sandusky's scandal was devastating. it slams the university and the former president for the oversight. it shows that they knew more about sandusky's serial abuse of children than they said they did. the report is long. it's 267 pages. it's incredibly extensive. special investigative counsel
interviewed more than 430 people. the panel was led by judge louis freeh, the former fbi director. at a news conference today, he did not mince his words. freeh says penn state's top official showed a total disregard for the safety and welfare of the victims. >> the most powerful help at penn state failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who sandusky victimized. mr. spanier, shultz, paterno and curley, never demonstrated, through actions or words, any concern for the safety and well being of sandusky's victims till after sandusky's arrest. >> they never demonstrated concern for sandusky's victims. for the children in all this. the men he's referring to are the university's former president, graham spanier, former vice president, gary shultz, coach joe paterno and former athletic director tim curley. schultz and curley are charged with perjury. jerry sandusky of course was convicted last month of 45
counts of sexually abusing boys over a 15-year period. he could be sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison. it's probably inevitable he will be. the question is for how many years. judge freeh said the four penn state officials were aware of a 1998 criminal investigation of sandusky on allegations of sexually abusing a boy in a locker room shower but failed to take action. report by a young boy's mother of a possible sexual assault by sandusky in the lasch building. on may 5, 1998, schultz' notes about the incident state, is this opening up pandora's box? other children? question mark. the report went on to say spanier, shultz, paterno and curley took no action to limit sandusky's access to penn state's facilities or took any measures to protect children on the campus. the report also looks extensively at the incident that took place on february 9, 2001. that's when graduate assistant mike mcqueary reported he saw sandusky sexually assault a boy in a shower. the report confirms what cnn first reported last week. there was a series of meetings
and e-mails between the men on what to do about sandusky. on february 25th, 2001, the report states that spanier, shultz and curley discussed a plan of action. in the next paragraph, however, the report states on february 27th, 2001, curley recommended a different course of action to spanier and shultz. if sandusky was, what they called cooperative, not to inform the department of public welfare of the allegation. not to inform them. again, here's judge freeh. >> they exposed this child to additional harm by alerting sandusky who was the only one who knew the child's identity about what mcqueary saw in the shower on the night of february 9th, 2001. >> then there's this. judge freeh reports the janitor. the sexual assault of a young child in the shower back in 2000
but they said nothing because they were afraid of being fired by a powerful football coach. can you imagine that? freeh added the investigative report makes more than 100 recommendations on how penn state can move forward. he said one of the most important goal should be to create a more open and compliant culture that protects children and not adults who abuse them. this afternoon, a member of penn state's board of trustees agreed. >> an event like this can never happen again in the penn state university community. >> joining me now is attorney for victims number 3, 7 and 10. as well as other sandusky victims who testified at the trial. also joining us, senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. clearly all signs have pointed to a major failure at penn state. now this report has certainly confirmed that. were you surprised at just -- i mean, how damning this report is? >> i can't say that i was surprised by the factual information. i was pleased that they were able to capture so much of what
we have known and suspected for months. the report is devastating. and, you know, i want to say i was surprised but i think the reality is we were well aware that this is what had occurred in this case. >> jeff, i was reading this report. you think about the civil suits that the school now faces. i mean, it becomes much more problematic for penn state. >> to say the least. anderson, i apologize for a crude image but, you know, i was thinking that justine and her colleagues who are suing penn state are going to need wheel barrows to carry all the money the juries are going to give them. i mean, people are going to be so outraged. and usually when you have a scandal, you can say, well, it was a bad apple. it was, you know, a group or a small -- this was the president of the university. this was the head of the athletic department. these were the top people in the university. so how the university is going to go on from this and deal with the financial fallout, i really just don't know.
>> justine, obviously, you and your colleagues have spoken to some of the victims you represent since this report. what was their reaction? >> first, i'll tell you we pored through the report and the first thing we did was talk to our clients. we talked with them about the findings. they were not surprised by the scope of the cover-up. i think, though, they were very relieved that it is public. that the highest level officials at penn state university actively concealed a child predator in their midst. they i think were also very encouraged by the condemnation in terms of the tone of the report. stating that these folks made a decision to prioritize their brand, penn state football's image and the university and their own reputations above the well-being of children. i also think some of them were a bit disappointed that there wasn't a little bit more
information in there about what had occurred prior to 1998 at penn state. i do believe that there is much more to come from this story but overall this is an extremely damaging and devastating report for penn state university and our clients recognize that. >> so, justine, you think there's more prior to 1998, things that haven't even come out yet? >> i do. i think this -- certainly there are mountains of evidence in this case. we learned quite a bit from the criminal trial. this was one investigation. there's substantial amount of evidence coming from this investigation. there are more investigations under way. and we are conducting our own investigation. we have no doubt that there's more to come in this story. >> jeff, i mean, if that's true, right now, two school officials, curley, shultz, are facing charges of lying to authorities. joe paterno obviously is dead. do you think there's additional criminal liability among other people who failed to protect kids from sandusky? >> certainly nothing in the report that i saw is -- suggested that there were more criminal charges to come.
look, people generally do not become child molesters for the first time in middle age. if they're going to be child molesters, they start earlier. so it is certainly a reasonable supposition that sandusky did more of this. but as for specific evidence, i haven't seen any. >> justine, did you have specific evidence or specific information there might be more criminal charges? >> i think you'd have to consult with attorney general about what additional criminal charges there may be in this case. certainly we have the ongoing criminal charges against the top penn state officials, curley and shultz. i think a lot of the information in the report does raise questions in my mind about what additional people may be charged in that. that's really a question for the attorney general with respect to how they proceed on the criminal case. >> how do you even go about trying to quantify the kind of damage that's been done or put it into a monetary term? because that's ultimately what
civil cases boil down to. i'm not saying that's what this is about. but how do you even go about that? >> well, i think the very first thing you do is recognize that -- a very important reason for our civil justice system is to hold institutions accountable. when things like this happen. accountability is an incredibly important thing in a case like this. the behavior that we saw is simply reprehensible. and putting a number on it i think is not necessarily an exact science. but there is a way in which the civil system does communicate the values of our legal system. and, frankly, in this case, with the kind of blatant disregard that we saw for the well being of children, i have every reason to believe there will a significant value. >> jeff, is there anything about this report that really surprised you? we've heard charges.
to kind of see it all like this i just found -- i don't know, eye opening in a different way. >> every page you're waiting for someone in an e-mail to say, well what about the kid, what happened to the kid? should we look in to see how they're doing? should we see if there's other -- i mean, there's no zero, concern for the victims of, of what went on here. and, yes, we knew in a general way that that was the case. but just to see e-mail after e-mail worried about the perpetrators and the protectors of sandusky instead of the kids is just really horrifying. >> yeah, as justine said, worrying about the brand. stunning. justine, appreciate you being on. thank you very much. jeff as well. newly released fbi reports could shed new light on the role that race played in the shooting death of trayvon martin. if it did play a role. will have the new evidence hurt george zimmerman's defense case? [ manager 1 ] out here in the winds,
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time for the riduculist. tonight we're adding the old nicolas cage resume mix-up. this is possibly my favorite story of the day. a young lady in toronto noticed a job posting for an administrative assistant and decided to inquire about it via e-mail. dear kelly, she wrote. i found your ad at the career center the other day. i was wouldn'tering if it was still available. i've attached my resume and cover letter for your consideration. regard, vanessa. so far, so good, right? nice letter there, polite. not overdone. here's the problem. instead of attaching the zip file containing her resume and
cover letter, she attached a photo of nicolas cage. a particularly kind of -- well, crazy kind of looking photo of nicolas cage. even by nicolas cage standards. a photo this woman apparently saved on her computer. i'm the first one to say what good are computers if you don't use them to store unsettling photographs of nicolas cage? mixing the files? that doesn't live up to the cag standard. >> it's all alphabetical. you just put it in the right file. according to alphabetical order. a, b, c. d, e, f. g, h, i, j. k, l, m, n, o. p, q, r, s, t, u, z. huh! that's all you have to do! >> very simple. can we put that e-mail up again? i just want to get another look at the photo.
what do you think was going through his mind when that photo was taken? >> i was a little drunk. plus, i was horny. >> okay that settled that. believe it or not, though, it's not the first time that kind of resume mixup has happened. i did some digging and found this. dear anderson cooper. i've been watching you for years and particularly enjoy your work on loveline and celebrity rehab. i've attached my resume for your consideration. sincerely, kevin. and this photo was attached. by the way if someone really did list gary busey as a reference, forget about the interview, you got the job, okay, no questions asked. there was also this e-mail that got sent to our d.c. office. dear wolf blitzer. i was wondering if you might be in need of a new staffer on the situation room. happening now, jenny. she also attached her resume. as for vanessa, the job applicant up in toronto, she told "the washington post," no surprise, she got a reply to her e-mail saying the job had been
filled. and instead of your resume, you actually sent an exotic photo, shall we say, of nicolas cage. we can check in with mr. cage just again? >> i was little drunk. plus, i was horny. >> thank you. don't despair. you might not have gotten the job but you've now attached to a cageful of fun on the riduculist. we're getting late word about a flight that was forced to return to the airport. joining me now, susan candiotti with the details. what do we know? >> a source familiar with aviation security at jfk airport says that delta flight 126 from jfk to madrid took off about 8:00 tonight, eastern time. but was turned back after suspicious wires were noted in a
laboratory aboard the plane. the plane land asked the passengers were taken off. a bomb squad is spongd and a delta technician has been called in to try to figure out whether the wiring is indeed suspicious. we don't know how many passengers were on board the flight but it did land safely. >> all right. and at this point in time, not to put you on the spot. do we know who did this? >> it is unclear at this time. there is some conflicting information about that. so at this time they are saying it was discovered until we get further information about that. >> all right. and the situation at jfk right now. is it open? still operational? what can you tell us about that? >> yes. as far as we know, the operation, the airport is operating normally.