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let them walk out. cnn analyst says there is no way they did this without help. >> well, it has to be somebody on the inside. it just has to be. somebody at the clerk's office, in the courthouse. maybe even somebody in a state attorney's office position. a secretary who can get that paperwork done. yenk yinks jinks jenkins and walker were found and rearrested. we were on the story when it happened. it has to be said that florida police got lucky these two men did not leave the state and only got what, some 880 miles away, nick. >> not only that, but that they were arrested without incident. they were thought to be in the area of the mall. after jenkins family saw him,
they went to the grandma's house be a and there was a birthday party they didn't show up for. we understand they were in the hotel waiting for a ride it atlanta. they were waiting for someone to pick them up. they had plans and were expecting to leave the area. don? >> let's talk more about this. police believe the two men had help on the outside. while they were obviously on the run. any word on how that investigation is going? it is definitely part of their investigation right now. i spoke earlier in the florida law enforcement. the weeks they were out when they were free and anybody helping them get their hands on this forged documents, interestingly enough, commissioner of law enforcement says it is possible the documents could have cost jenkins and walker upwards of about $8,000. that's also part of their investigation. they do tell us, they are expecting more arrests to come.
we just don't know when. don? >> nick palencia, thank you, nick. the documents they used to get out had an official signature on them. including this signature of judge perry. but it is a fake. judge perry never signed them. it was a forgery. i talked to the judge and he has a theory about what happened. >> don, more than likely what happened, someone appeared in the clerk's office, dropped them in a box. they were processed as they ordinary do process documents. there was absolutely no contact with my office. no one even checked to see if in fact the cases were assigned to me. and they went on about their merry way and were transmitted to the department of corrections. and the department of corrections got them, and acted
upon them. >> apparently the department of corrects hasn't said much publicly about the escape or how it happened. i want to tell you about an historic moment in new jersey. that's when gay couples will be able to legally marry in the state. >> it is an opportunity to be formally recognized. >> the latest challenge was knocked down friday by the state supreme court. governor's office sought a delay. but was turned down by the high court. an appeal is expected in january but the state supreme court said there is no reason to believe it will succeed. gust shutdown delayed its kristening but the navy will launch its newest and biggest destroyer any day now. here is an artist rendering of the ship. isn't that amazing? about a hundred feet longer than any destroyer in the fleet and allows the ship to ride low in the water to evade radar.
it is built as something after stealth destroyer. it also has missiles and new gun that fires rocket propelled warheads up to 100 miles an hour. pretty cool. forget about the criticism of obama care, the layout. tomorrow he will talk about the good it will do. john mccain calls it a fiasco. in an interview with ted cruz, also on state of the union, he says secretary of state has to go. here is cnn's chris lawrence. chris? >> don, monday morning, president obama will spring certain small business owners, pharmacists and consumers with him to the rose garden. these are certain people who support the affordable care act. some of them are likely to be people who did not have health care before. and now have enrolled due to the new plan. the obama administration is
trying to distance itself from the glitchers. you can see the white house saying look, this is more than just a website. this is a program and the program itself is still a good one. >> other critics say it is so bad that they are calling for the head of the health and human services kathleen saturday beale yas. they want her to resign. so far the white house is backing her and touting certain numbers. 19 million people visited the site. about half a million filled out the application. what they are not saying is how many actually enrolled. yes, they put in all of their information. they've gotten to the end.
but what we'll have to look for over the next few weeks is how many people were actually able to sign up for a specific plan. the white house needs about 7 million people to do so in order to balance out the costs. don? >> chris lawrence in washington, thank you, chris. the administration admits the roll-out had problems. listen to the website posting. we are committed to doing better to ensure that we make swift progress. our team has called in additional help to help solve some of the more complex technical issues we are encountering. okay so earlier i spoke with an expert. his name is russ reeder. from temple media. i asked him if the health care needs to be redone from scratch. >> well, you don't tear down your house if you redo it a little. you don't have to start from scratch. but they need to accept that
they need a major overhaul. so from the architecture, i think they are doing too much. how do you take away features? if you want to get people signed up, if that's your number one goal, how do you take out the number one things they are trying to accomplish. make it as easy as possible. right now it is too complex. they are trying to solve all of their problems. >> $292 million for a website that doesn't work. did the u.s. taxpayers get scammed? >> right. so you and i paid for this. i don't know about scammed. they obviously worked really hard to do this. but i think that when you start, especially in technology, if you start a project without understanding exactly what the day you're going to launch, and then work backwards. like so for instance, the news has broke that they only had literally four to six days to test this. and the requirements were moving. that means they were changing the design of the website until
one week before they launched it. normally you would have code complete. you would stop developing the website for six months before you launched. not four to six days. >> thank you very much, mr. reeder. people get caught with guns and knives at the airport all the time. but this is over the top. a long island man tried to board a jetblue fight carrying a bag filled with more than a dozen knives, five pair of scissors, more than a dozen lighters and other so-called implements of destruction. timothy schiavo is charged with criminal possession after of a weapon. boston red sox heading to the world series. they won 5-2 on the heels of shane victorino's grand slam. next up, rematch of 2004 world series against the cardinals. game one, october 23rd. a new program will soon fire up
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shot by a volunteer firefighter in the blue mountains northwest of sydney. we spoke to michael green about his harrowing video. >> well, we wanted to know if anyone else was home. i had been through that tough of terrain in large fire trucks. i was just sort of in a funny state of mind. my wife started saying, gun it, gun it. like this means speed it up, speed it up. because she could feel the intense heat coming through the windows and then i realized, what am i doing. this is -- she wanted to turn back. couldn't turn back. this is not a fire truck. we went through it and it was quite scary. >> it does look scary. at least 200 homes have been lost. more than a hundred others have been damaged. state of emergency has been
declared in the sydney area as crews battle more than a fires. nasa wasn't able to tell us about an astroid as it past 4 million miles from the earth. if it had been on a kplicollisi course with earth, we might not have known about it. one endeavor called atlas proposes a system that would give one-week advance warning of an astronaut large enough to destroy a city and really large astroid, right? atlas says it might be able to give us three weeks advance notice, which raises the question, then what? a geologist specializing in meet rights and the curator at the museum of natural history. even if we know the big one is coming, right, could anything be done about that in welcome back. what happened to the astroid? >> back in the collections where
it belongs. we study the rocks to know what they are made of. >> if we know, is there anything that can be done? >> people have thought about many different scenarios. but three-weeks warning, no way. however, the thing that came by a month ago was discovered an a ukrainian astr ukrainian astronomer. it was a quarter mile in diameter. so four to six weeks warning with a big telescope. >> so what does that mean? >> that's a country-calamity disaster. >> 400 million miles away. >> 4 million miles away. but just last december, a bigger astroid, 1.3 million -- or excuse me -- what millions among scientists. but 1.3 mile diameter astroid. that's about the size of central park. that came the same distance from the earth. >> if you tell me it came like
500 miles away -- >> well, in february, february 15, we all remember that amazing footage of dash cams -- >> yes, i remember that. >> that same day was already people were on the look-out because we were watching for this big astroid, about three times as big. >> scared me there. >> about 50 meter diameter astroid. we had seen it a year ago. and it came within 17,000 miles. that's inside the orbit of our satellites. so we are getting into sandra bullock and clooney territory here, with "gravity." and see how fast things move out there. >> okay. weed there was one issue. what was the one issue? >> the issue is, what are we going to do? this is not just something one nation with unilaterally decide. we will push it this way, then it lands somewhere else on earth? we have to know what we're doing. >> ln like can you go into a bomb shelter. >> you can't bet an insurance
policy on planets. i don't know who you would get it from. but watchers should be assured that it's not -- this is not something that will happen soon. the biggest best preserved meteorite on earth is 50,000 -- 50,000 years ago. it is only a kilometer in diameter. 30 meter object caused it. these things are very, very rare. >> i'm i'm going with prudential. it's the rock. >> these are rock. space rocks. >> that's why i said it. come on. so how does it system work? >> well, this system is up to eight telescopes. still on the planning stages. but they are setting up two maybe more telescopes with hundred mega pixel views. you need two views. you need one with moves against things that don't move. so things that move, watch out
for it. >> we're not inviting you back without props. >> i can bring in mars. >> please. >> we have a piece in the museum of the meteorite, that they just last week got the mass out of lake. broke immediately into three pieces. didn't look very impressive. >> television, bring us props. thank you. after lance armstrong finally came clean of doping, a lot of people asked how he hid it for so long. two wall street journal reporters say they dug up information that might explain it. that's next. congestion, for the smog. but there are a lot of people that do ride the bus. and now that the buses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution into the air. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment.
but his dramatic fall from grace tarnished his legacy. a book called "wheelmen" claims to know how armstrong got away with doping for so long and who helped him. >> we always viewed this as sort of a business story. more than just doping and cycling or doping and sport. we view this as a story about a business, enterprise, essentially. and cheating was at the heart of it. >> is the fact that he also had this charity, did he use that to kind of blend criticism of him or suspicion of him? >> absolutely. the lance armstrong foundation, now known as the live strong foundation, really was his shield. he was fighting cancer. he wasn't just an athlete. he was above all that. and that really, in the mind of his fans and followers, protected him over those 14
years. >> would he say sometimes, i survived cancer, why would i take drugs. and people believed it. it gave him special status in the eyes of the public. >> what happens now? he is still facing one lawsuit, correct? >> yes. >> and a big one. >> yes. there is a lawsuit under false claims act as a whistle blower. as essentially blowering the whistle on the post office contract. lance armstrong's team violated the contract by doping. u.s. department of justice joined that lawsuit to the tune of potentially $120 million. >> this brings up business beams that we bring upt book. lance armstrong argues that the postal service should have known. it got this marketing benefit by sponsoring the team because he won so many times. the post office had media exposure of his victories. he is arguing that the postal service should have known he was doping. >> it is obviously incredibly
important to compete in triathlons. that's one of the things he cannot do now, correct? >> correct. >> was he doping in triathlons after his cycling career? >> i think there are allegations. but his side of the story, lance's story, is that he wasn't doping, he was just helping with the training regimen. >> tonight, cnn will have a lot more on lance arm strong. 10:00 p.m. eastern. make sure to tune in necessary this week is cnn premier, krp premier of "black fish." i've seen this documentary. it is really powerful. the documentary takes aim at the controversial issue of killer whales in captivity. i will talk to its director, next. [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up to be the world's best sport sedan... ♪
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2010. in the room with me right now is thomas george tobin, is that correct? >> correct. >> did you see any blood in the water or anything like that? >> the last part of it, she was scalped. and there was no blood. so pretty much, we knew then that the heart was beating. >> once they were able to pull that away, how did he let go of it. >> he didn't. >> he never let go of the arm? >> swal yoed it. >> he swallowed it? so the arm is nowhere -- >> yes. >> black fish goes back decade to humans trapping killer whales for captivity. >> it was an exciting thing to do until everybody wanted to do it. >> what were they telling you you would do? >> capture orcas. >> they had aircraft, spotters,
speed boats, bombs they were throwing in the water. they were lighting their bombs with acetylene torches in their boats and herding whales into coves. but the orcas had been caught before and they knew what was going on. they knew their young ones would be taken from them. so the adults without young went east into cul-de-sac. and the boats followed them, thinking they were all going that way. while the mothers with babies went north. but the capture teams had aircraft and they have to come up for air eventually. when they did, the capture teams alerted the boats and said no, they are going north, the ones with babies. so the boats, speed boats caught them there and herded them in. and then they had fishing boats with nets that they would stretch across. so none could leave. then they could just pick out the young ones. >> as i said, a very powerful
documentary. i need to tell that you sea world has been critical of the film "black fish" and issued this statement. black fish is billed as a documentary but instead of a fair and complex treatment of a subject the film is inaccurate and misleading and regrettably exploits a tragedy which is a source of deep pain for dawn brancheau's family, friend and colleagues. perhaps the most important the film fails to mention sea world's commitment to the safety of its team members and guests and to the care and welfare of its animals as demonstrated by the company's continual refinement and improvement to its killer whale facilities equipment and procedure both before and after the death of dawn brancheau. i want to bring in gabriella. lets start with tillicum -- first of all, what do you have to say to their response?
>> oh, wow, well it is a mouthful. the facts in the film are undisputable. sea world fought very hard to keep this beneath the surface. none of this has come out to the general public until now. >> i told producers of this at cnn that i wanted to see it before i met with you. i couldn't watch it on the plane because it was too low. so i've been trying to watch it on my phone before you came in. tell us how tillicum was brought in and has he always lived in sea world? a small confined metal space for
most of his life. >> he was captured off the coast of iceland about 1983. everybody thinks. he was put, believe it or not, in the helm, like the hull of a ship. for a year. then he came to a place call sea landa pacific. so his first marine park was sea landa pacific. it is no longer around. but there, he was actually the sub dominant male. so he was raked which is when a killer whale, takes its teeth and -- by the other whales, he was sort of bullied. >> so is that a form of training. >> right, if he wasn't doing the tricks properly, the other whales would beat up on him. he was just always beat up an sort of bloody.
at night they put them in this module where they were touching each other. couldn't swim or move. no light, no sound. kept in there for two third of their life. >> the trainers said when they today put the whales in the modules, it broke their hearts, because they knew it would be hours before they could get out again and eat again. >> do you think this attributed to ms. brancheau's death? >> well, it is hard to think how it wouldn't. he was sort of plucked probably from his family. from the mother. put into a strange environment in iceland for a year. nobody knows what happened in that year. then he came it a park where he was beat up the entire time. >> so i want to read one more response from sea world. sea world says this about your film. >> to promote the bias that killer mails should not be
maintained, it paints a distorted pictures that hold from viewers key facts about sea world, among them that sea world is one of the world's most respected zoo logical institutions and that sea world rescues, rehabilitates and returns to the wild hundreds of wild animals every year, and that sea world commits millions of dollars annually to conserve ae and do scientific research. what is your reaction. >> well, what they give is sort of pole poultry. they did a good job with with that with sea turtles and manatees. >> people love to go to see shows to see whales and dolphins and they love to do that.
would you get rid of it all together? what would you change? >> i never thought, going into the movie, we didn't want to do a hatchet job on sea world. we were hopeful that bewould be spear heading the sea sanctuary movement. which is cornering off the cove with a net and retiring the whales in an ocean environment. this could be a profit-making endeavor. you can't take the whales that they have and just toss them into the ocean. their teeth aren't shape and they don't know how to hunt. feed them dead fish, if they need it. but people could come and visit and sea world could charge a fee for this. >> thank you. appreciate it. again, as i said, really fourful document airing on cnn at the okay p.m.
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stafford, animal trainer and conservation director of wildlife world aquarium in phoenix. i should say, dr. gray. i know you haven't seen "blackfish" yet but what do you think of the film's premise? >> don, i have concerns about it. it takes a certain point of view that i don't agree with. i think one of the messages lost in this commotion is the care and concern that we animal trainers give to our animals. and it is based upon exclusive use of positive reinforcement. i'm holding an american alligator right here. this is a speeties that when you and i were kids was on the brink of extinction. zoos and aquariums said hey, a good idea we try to save the species. alligators have not only rebounded but are thriving in the wild and in human care. >> i can't believe you're sitting there holding an alligator. i come from louisiana, and we were told to be afraid, have a healthy respect for alligators.
and don't go near them. how can you sit there in the studio and be comfortable? >> and don, i want to be clear. that's excellent advice that you received growing up. i would not approach a wild alligator quite like this. this little fellow here is named captain crunch. he has been part of our training program since he was small hatchling. because of the relationship we built with him is something not necessarily known for great intelligence. which is something i disagree with. i think they have great intelligence. but it illustrates the care and concern we can give to all sports of species, including killer whale, and learn from them. but also help inspire generations to come to care about these animals. that's yi think zoos and aquariums matter and why the training programs are so important. and illustrate the care and concern that we humans are capable when we try. >> i know this is an inappropriate question. but i'm sure people are home are wondering, if there is captain crunch, is there fruity pebbles
or something? >> well, our intugs has 6 institution has 6,000 animals so i will fut on the list. >> can wild animal be trained commands? isn't this a bit of hubris there? >> i take the other tack. i'm completely humbled to work around these great animals. when i start mid career, i started as killer whale trainer a few years before tillicum came to the united states. if we have done anything it is portray them as intelligent, keen and wonderful creatures, which they are. but let's not forget they are big strong predators. and any animal that you work with, whether it is an alligator or a crocodile or a killer whale is capable of inflicting injury of some kind. and i think one of the -- other point i would make here is i think we need to maintain perspective. losing dawn was tragedy. and it is one trainer too many. but the reality is, it is much
safer work -- >> i wanted to ask you about that. >> well, what i would say is it is much safer occupation than other occupations be including yours. how many journalist have been killed over thee years? something like a thousand. so with modern-based training, we build that trust and relationship. which allows us to learn from the animals and teach them to participate. not only in their own individual care but hopefully indirectly their species of survival. >> you see her swimming with the killer whale. is that -- i mean, should we do be doing that? do you think dawn did anything wrong during her interaction with the whale that ended her life? >> well, i wasn't there and i did not witness dawn's demise. i am familiar with the safety protocols at sea world and other institutions, including my own. i can tell that you staff safety and animal safety is always a priority. and up with of the great things again about training with positive reinforcement like all professional marine animals trainers do, is it lowers the
intensity. so if there is confusion, we try to prepare animals or all sorts of learning opportunities but if something does happen in my experience, the intensity tend to be less. that doesn't mean the risks are always zero. they are not. these are big animals. even if all goals well, things can happen. but the safety protocols are pretty thorough and the value of the work done by marine mammal trainers and zookeepers who use positive reinforcement helps with future generations. it con trtributes to science. your previous guest talks about what is contributed. marine parks have been contributing to wild animals that wouldn't have otherwise. >> yes, america, that is an alligator live on cnn. i think just did a death roll in your hand. did it not? >> the reason why you should leave the wild ones off to the side, and only handle ones that have been conditioned with
positive reinforce many like this fellow. >> death roll. there we go. thank you, appreciate you, doctor. thursday is your chance to see "blackfish." decide for yourself. premiers again this thursday on cnn, 9:00 eastern. see for yourself what everyone is talking about or will be talking about as well. this just in, you heard the two convicted murderers, we will show you the moment of the capture. cell phone video caught it all. we've got that for you. rk with pride. create moments of value. build character through quality. and earn the right to be called a classic. the lands' end no iron dress shirt. starting at 49 dollars. and better is so easy withrning you cabenefiber.o something better for yourself. fiber that's taste-free, grit-free and dissolves completely. so you can feel free to add it to anything.
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on the hotel. they told her to get back inside. she was very scared. she said it lasted about an houhour she said she couldn't think of a bet are way for it to end. we should remind viewers they were unarmed when they were arrested and were taken out incident. this is incred ill video we just got our hand on. great work to our assignment desk for tracking this down. don? >> can you imagine, nick, being at the hotel when all of this are going down and there are the two fugitives, two escaped inmates right there among you. nick valencia, thank you very much. nick has been covering this story for a while now. we appreciate it, nick. your weekly five is next. today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious.
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you can now buy stock in a jock. how it works. >> reporter: on the field, he's explosive. off of it, charming. >> what's your favorite food? >> my mama cooked some enchiladas. >> if one company has its way, he'll soon be a publicly traded asset. >> we're interested in working with arian because he has attributes beyond being a pro bowl running back. his approach to life and things off the field make him an attractive candidate for us. >> reporter: star nfl running back arian foster is the first athlete to sign up with fantex,
a stan francisco based startup that will allow fans to buy and share sales of their favorite athletes. fantex will pay foster $10 million up front. in exchange investors get the opportunity to earn 20% of foster's future income. including money from playing contracts, endorsements and appearance fees. fans can buy a stake at $10 a share. they also have to invest a minimum of $50. for veteran sports -- >> it's very difficult to monetize athletes' brands post playing days. it's very difficult to monetize athletes' brands while they're playing. >> reporter: fantex says it's looking for talented athletes with significant growth potential. >> how you play, the performance of your play, gives you a platform in which to have a voice in the marketplace which impacts your brand. >> reporter: but what's in it for the athletes? >> for players, this is a complete home run for arian foster.
he's basically buying himself insurance in terms of his playing days. >> reporter: so why arian foster? well, he's one of the nfl's biggest stars. his brand has surged with the popularity of fantasy football. he's a must start running back for team owners. and fantex wants to make him a must buy for investors. investors, though, should tread carefully. fantex lists 84 risk factors on its website including the risk of athletes getting injured and unforeseen issues with its trading platform. if fantex doesn't raise enough money in the initial offering it says it's scrapping the deal. still, the company is bullish about bringing sports investing to the average joe. >> we really embrace this concept of him being a trail blazer. and it fits his brand and how we see him. and we think that there is a desire for that out in the marketplace. >> reporter: zain asher, cnn, new york. >> okay. well, i'm don lemon in new york. anthony bourdain: parts un
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