Donald Trump Town Hall in Columbia South Carolina CSPAN September 23, 2015 6:00pm-7:31pm EDT
there is a process we unfortunately are becoming all too similar with which the government prepares for the possibility of a government shutdown. we are in the range of seven or eight days now before the deadline. and it is only prudent for the federal government to begin planning for the possibility that the government can shut down. and so at this point they are only in the planning stage, and it means making sure that agencies are aware of their responsibilities in the event of a government shutdown. and there have been some indications from the office of management and budget to federal agencies about this, but again these kinds of notifications, unfortunately, are becoming routine. so it shouldn't have any
immediate or short-term impact on the functioning of the federal government or on a day-to-day responsibilities of the vast majority of the federal work force. but there are some members of the administration include those who serve in senior positions who, for example, had to take time out of their day, away from the many tasks at the have before them to get on a conference call with the office of management and budget to start talking about a government shutdown. i think that is an indication of at least price that is paid by budgetary brinkmanship on capitol hill. and that's why the sooner the republicans will sit down with democrats to work out a solution, but better. >> one final comment about climate change. does the president think that his comments today could help shape the conversations in paris during that climate summit? and does the hope that they might speak with i think as i
mentioned earlier i think the pope was keenly aware the comments he would deliver today would be closely watched, not just by those of us on the south lawn but those around the world. and he is a man of extraordinary influence, and i would expect that is called action would be heard around the world. eventual impact that has on the negotiating table or in the my to policymakers remains to be seen. but certainly it was a powerful statement, and one that i think people around the world will take seriously. >> just a little bit more, i know you want to talk about the content but what are the president observations of the pope's visit? was he surprised by anything the pope said in a speech?
did he first learned about what the pope was going to say in real-time, or had you specifically been given a heads-up about what was in the speech? >> the president was listening intently to the pope's words, because he wanted to hear firsthand what the pope has on his heart. [inaudible] >> that's the first time. he had not, again unlike you, the president had not had the chance to read the posts prepared remarks. of the first chance the president had to hear from the pope. you know, we have been saying for some time now that the people in the white house and all across the city have been excited about and eagerly anticipating the visit of pope francis. and the president and the first family shares in the excitement. i think it was evident when the president and his family met the pope at the stairs of his
aircraft, joint base and is yesterday. you may seem the white house video that was put out this morning that shared the presence of enthusiastic welcome of the pope when he reached the bottom of the stairs. the president has a deep admiration for the pope. they had an opportunity to visit when the president visited the vatican last year, and it was a memorable meeting and the president came away quite impressed. and the president really enjoyed the opportunity to visit with him again today. >> is there anything particular in the piece that surprising, that was reflected on the or to other members of the staff speak what i didn't to characterize anything as surprising by think the president, like many of us, noted the conviction with which the pope spoke. the president, the pope was focus i think on his own deep
moral conviction about a range of issues. anti-spoke freely and from the heart, and oppressively not in his first language. you know, one of the things that i think that struck a chord is his focus on the least of these who are most immediately and directly impacted by climate change. and for all of the reasons we talk about being here about why the president has made this a priority both a moral responsibility we have to future generations at the potential economic opportunity that exists in this country for investments in things like renewable energy, one thing i think it does get overlooked is the fact that it is a poor communities around the world that are most likely to be directly affected by the impacts
of climate change. the president had the opportunity to observe this week up to alaska a few weeks ago. on the way to the arctic circle, air force one flew over this village that's on the barrier island and alaska whose land is slowly but surely receiving into the sea. this is a community without a lot of economic resources and is fairly isolated, and is literally at risk because of rising sea levels. so you know, hearing the president speak, or hearing the pope speak with conviction about action on climate change because of the impact it would have on those who face the biggest economic disadvantage i think is just another reason to be, to hear the pope's call to action.
on cuba, the president obviously had his own kind words for the pope and the role that he played in helping to facilitate the agreement to normalize relations between our two countries. obviously, you know, the pope himself sort of talk about the importance of reconciliation, but i think the president, well, i know the president has had a desire to travel to cuba even before pope francis made the decision to go to the island. and there was nothing there were so about the pope's visit that in any way diminishes the president's enthusiasm for that possibility. >> one other thing. did you guys interpret what was said about -- [inaudible] outreach to iran? >> well, i do believe the vatican has spoken positively about the international
agreement with iran in the past. but i don't frankly know whether or not that passage in the pope's books would in intended to allude to that or not. >> first i want to ask about russia. media is reporting this meetings set for next week with president obama and president putin. the kremlin is indicating something is going on but there hasn't been -- on this one if you can shed any light on what's going on there? >> i don't have any lock down details about the presence scheduled in new york to share today but it would anticipate that tomorrow we'll have more details on the president's trip to sell i'll have an update for you been. [inaudible] >> i don't have much to say about any possible discussions with the russians on this particular topic. you know, obviously president
putin is planning to travel to new york here for part of the chinese in new york president obama will also be there, too. but at this point we will have to wait till to mark is exactly what the final schedule is going to look like. >> there was also reporting that the pope planned to raise -- [inaudible] that could've happened either at -- i know you can't wait out the meeting syrian. i wonder if that's something the pope -- [inaudible] >> not that i'm aware. i back up the detailed readout of the other belief that occurred here at the white house. we meant to follow up with you on that, if we can get more information for you on that, i will follow up.
[inaudible] praise for the chinese and also talking about the -- [inaudible] an interesting trip against the backdrop of the chinese president's visit here, whether it's cybersecurity or the south china sea or the american businesswoman who is being detained. wonder if you talk at about that if you see those -- [inaudible] >> justin, and it's been a decent amount of time preparing for the briefing today with a range of parties but this particular issue didn't come up in any detail but i'm not aware of precisely of what the individual you refer to me as it. that may give an indication of how concerned they are about any
of the positions he may have taken over the course of his trip. april. >> josh, i would ask a couple questions. since the president's -- the president likes to take world leaders -- [inaudible] did the president at all talk about dr. king or show him the statue? >> as you point out it's hard to miss. i'm not aware of whether or not they had a discussion of dr. king. >> now, on that statement, that was -- [inaudible] very strong statement. normally you hear many of -- used over and over again. but to the pope say that he defaulted on the promissory note, very strong including presidents future advisors. with that, that means that there needs to be some kind of
paycheck that's dealt with, that compensates for when it comes to immigration and climate change. do you think this president -- about the promissory note when it comes to issues of immigration, specifically when you said you didn't think we had -- [inaudible] didn't push immigration reform. >> april, i thought the context of dr. king's quote that was recited by the pope in the context of climate change, it may be that the pope contended that to apply to other areas as well. certainly a good. but i think time will tell what sort of impact the pope's advocacy on these issues will have both an attorney and around the world. i wouldn't predict at this point exactly what impact they will have in the policymaking process. >> let's say then, according to
other people, because when he made the statement defaulted on the promissory note, and without people -- [inaudible] do you think that you can kind of rally some of these republican parties on this issue? >> well, we have made clear that we would welcome the support of republicans for the effort to cut carbon pollution and 50 of the causes of climate change. we know that taking those kinds of steps are good in the best interest of our planet. there in the best interest of the next generation of americans but they are also in the interest of this generation of americans when it comes to a range of public health issues. so we sort hopeful that republicans will work constructively with the democrats on some of these
issues, but that remains to be seen. >> did you know that he was going to use that quote? >> i did not. okay? peter. >> one small thing on the ceremony. ceremonies have a 21 gun salute. there was one for pope benedict wendie king. [inaudible] >> i think we had a discussion those closely coordinated with the pentagon -- with the vatican. [laughter] i suppose with this particular question the pentagon made that involve. the white house closely coordinates for the activities with this in this case the vatican. and, obviously, this pope has a reputation of somebody who doesn't revel in the pomp and circumstance, as much as some of
the world leaders do. and so it was in deference to his humility that a 21 gun salute was not included in the formal arrival ceremony today. >> was sai it about his humilitr the idea of a militaristic display? they're still military color guard and so forth on the south lawn. >> certainly humility factors into that decision, but yes, it also, i think some might also recognize the dissidents in welcoming a professed man of peace to the white house by repeated firing of weapons. i think that we felt like, i think we'll could be described as a slightly more subdued welcome ceremony was the most appropriate way to welcome pope francis to the white house.
based solely on his public reaction to the festivities it appears that pope francis agreed with that as well. >> i follow up on peter. will it be a 21 gun salute on friday when president xi comes? >> i suppose so. there typically is but we'll have to check on that and let you know. >> different context. >> that's right. >> thank you. >> the president certainly made clear that he was not content with the situation in iran with the hostages remaining there. because of the pope's successor bring together cuba and the united states, is the united states asking the pope in any way to intervene in the case of the hostages in iran and? >> let me start with an observation, which is that the island nation of cuba has a large number of catholics.
there are obviously many fewer catholics in iran. that said, the pope is clear summary with significant moral influence, even among those who are not catholic. what i will say is simply that the president has made clear that our efforts to try to secure the safe return of those americans that are unjustly held inside of iran, those efforts continue. they continued to be a priority of this administration and of the president personally. and we have pursued a variety of advocates for trying to secure the release of those individuals. but we found that our efforts are more effective when we don't talk about them publicly spent so you're not willing to ask? >> i don't have an update at
this point on our ongoing efforts to secure the release of those americans that are being unjustly held inside of our men, other than to confirm that those efforts are ongoing and continue to be a priority. >> the keystone pipeline, understand your statement what could happen. but on the statement by hillary clinton was there anything that the white house disagrees with when she says that approving the keystone pipeline would, in fact, send us in the wrong direction as far as energy independence and that is not going to provide a lot of jobs? is there anything in to the widest disagrees because the president has spoken on this issue a couple of times where he has indicated his skepticism about some of the claims made by the most ardent supporters of the keystone pipeline. we have seen some rather dubious claims about the number of jobs
that would be great in the construction of the pipeline. and of a long-term economic impact of the project or those jobs that are created. the president said that himself -- >> our pledge of allegiance will be led by melissa byers, student body president at the high school. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands: one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> our national anthem with the song by miss south carolina 2013, brooke.
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[cheers and applause] i see a whole lot of trump out there. i said i see a whole lot of trump out of there. [shouting] he can get you back there. i say i see a whole lot of trump out of there. [shouting] we are going to have a good night tonight i will do you i'm excited about tonight. i'm excited about the fact that we have amazing people running for the united states presidency, without any question. i'm excited about the fact that we have attracted to our party energy and enthusiasm, a lot of young people out in the audience today. [cheers and applause] i love it. you know, i will tell you when i went to two articles recently, and the first two questions, now when you high school you rarely have political questions. but two of the first questions i've received a few weeks ago was, about donald trump.
and i finally knew that, in fact, reverend, young people are being attracted to the political conversation because of the quality and the strength of our candidates, and donald trump is bringing a lot of folks. looking around a little bit. look around a little bit. so i'm excited about tonight and i know you're excited about tonight. you don't want me here to -- you don't want me to pontificate much longer so i will stop and introduce my special guest tonight. is a guy who started in middle america and who worked his way through his family business, took it over and added a little steroids do it. i know that we have some amazing folks want for president, but here's a person who understands business. would you agree? [cheers and applause]
here's the guy that brings an independent perspective to the political process. would you agree? [cheers and applause] so why do we welcome to the stage and donald trump. [cheers and applause] thank you, tim, so much. >> absolutely. >> thank you. good man, good man. thank you, tim. thank you very much. thank you. welcome we just had an amazing day. i was in a different part of the state and we had some incredible people. and i love the people of south carolina. [cheers and applause] i have to show you. so it's just get a about the
press. he knows about the press. tim knows. either way, was i wanted her first supporters ever come and maybe your first? before he was, wh knows, before he became this big shot, right? i feel -- we are proud of him, that i can tell you. [cheers and applause] >> so we just got these poll numbers and doing great in south carolina. 39% are do you believe this, 39. [cheers and applause] and psychobabble to you, psychic just one and then they go down to 11. we were doing pretty well and we have to get them if we did call for the election tomorrow. in some countries you can call for the election. let's do it. do it tomorrow. one of the other things i was explaining before, the big headline in florida, rubio and by the way, has the highest in the entire senate, they do not suppose to say this but he missed four days more than
anybody else in the senate to listen to this. will be a passions -- passes bush. this is the headline, nice, right? people are happy about that. rubio passes bush in florida poker i said that's too bad. i thought i would do great in florida. thatcher atlantic and every the story, donald trump is leading 31.5 -- can you believe it? is great. [applause] rubio is that 19-point to come and bush's 11.3. badly that put me in headline and i am crushing it. you all figure that out. the press is right is only. not all that but much of it. i did want to say it's an honor to be here again asked me to be and i tell you what, he's a special person and anytime he wants you to come to south carolina i am here. [applause] i mean it. i mean it. and he's going to grill me now.
this is as a second am i supposed to make a speech? he said no, this is question and answer. i said good, that's easy, i like it better. i hope he's not going to be like mike wallace of the old days, right? let's sit down. thank you all very much. greg, thank you for being here. thank you. [applause] >> is always exciting to have celebrities with us. i have my most important celebrity in the front row, and my mom is here with us tonight. >> beautiful. hello, francis. [applause] she did a good job. she did a good job. look at this guide. >> i am blessed with her. as you know the way this wor wos is i ask questions from the ideas members presented, submitted the questions of michael's make sure gets as of these questions as possible. we are not looking for sound bites, looking for a thorough answer. we will start with a question from samantha bailey who is with
us tonight and she says other than immigration, when you look at the challenges we face in this country, what would be three other priorities that you would have? >> okay. we have to get rid of at least some of the debt if not all. we are up to $19 trillion every country that is in serious debt. i want to get rid of obamacare. we want to repeal it. [cheers and applause] and we want to replace it if we want to replace it with something terrific and we have a lot of options. there so many options. i don't know options. i don't know if you see your premiums are going through the roof, right? they're going to the rough. they are up 40, 50% of one person said to me yesterday 55%. i think a third think the big military. we want to build up the military. [applause] as part of that. i say it all the time. i think it would be my straight. anyone says jobs will be my strength i think that will be. cnn did a poll for i was through
the roof on jobs and leadership. and a little bit less when he came to personnel at the can you believe it? it? last night but i so what difference does it make? we have to win a little bit. the other thing so important military and very, very important is taking care of our veterans. our veterans -- [applause] our veterans are treated like third class citizens. the illegals that come into the illegal immigrants in many cases, you go to california they are getting drivers licenses. getting taken care better than our fans. that's not going to happen if i win. that i can tell you. [applause] >> there's so many people who have the same question. i know others have similar question on the issue of immigration. securing our borders without any question is one of your top orders that we forget talk about. i would also ask you go into a
depth of how you would secure the border the water a couple things you do to secure the port border and what you think about our legal immigration? >> good. so this is one of my favorite questions because if you remember when i announced three months ago that i was running, i made statements and ago and thought it was then about a week later rush limbaugh said nobody has ever received so much incoming. incoming. i never distort incoming, meaning to press. i brought up illegal immigration. it turned out i was right. unit so many problems with crime and you have so much, you have kate in san francisco with such a shame, shot in the back by somebody over here five times, six times, i don't even know how may times, but you have kate, a woman two weeks ago in california was 66 year old veteran, a veteran raped, sodomized and killed by illegal immigrants are you have thousand of these cases. it's a horrible problem.
you have the drugs flowing across the border and jeff our money flowing out of. we get the drugs, they get the money. and, frankly, i think that tim is bring that up is the second question a lot of times it's the first question to if i were not involved, if i were not in this campaign than if i were sitting in new york doing nothing right now which would be easy and a lot of people said why would you ever run and he's got like this nights life of want to make america great again. so important. [applause] but i think if i did when he would even be asking the question on immigration because it's a question was even thinking about. nobody was even thinking about. i watch these politicians -- we are excluding tim by the way. i watch th these politicians afr all talk, no action to nothing would ever happen. we will have a wall not of what we buy a letter that is 10 feet and go to the topic this will be a wall and it will come in at the right cost and mexico is going to pay for the wall.
believe me. mexico is going to pay for the wall. and just to finish, i love mexico. i love mexican people. the mexican leadership is too smart for our leadership. they are tiny, sharp, smart grid people that don't know what you're doing and we are going to people, great negotiators that know what they're doing and will make their deals. right now i was telling tim before, i asked him why people come what is the trade deficit with mexico? it's like $45 billion. you can't get -- we can get into pay for it. anybody in this audience as a messenger can do that. what's the trade deficit with china? it's almost $400,000 a year. 400 billion. what's the deficit with japan? it's almost $70 billion. are we crazy? that will not happen with trump,
believe me. [applause] >> jim burwell -- are you here? jim has a question about energy. right that we are experiencing a pretty low prices but the fact of the matter is that for the average person in the country, especially those living close to or in poverty, their energy costs represent about 25% of their paycheck. >> a tremendous number. >> the question is what would you do as our president to manage our energy as a nation to make sure that we have responsible prices and that the average person in this country thinks less about the price at the pump? >> so we can would be the energy capital of the world. we have so much for technology. we have no idea that we were sitting on the kind of resources that were actually on.
and with proper work and proper -- i've been saying for a long time 30 to $40. people have heard me when it was going at 100. i was saying it should be 30, 25, 40 and that's what's going to turn out to be true. we had a case where thousands to hundreds of ships were out as he loaded up. they had so much oil they never knew what to do with it. now what's happening is opec is being broken up. the monopoly is being broken up and things can happen that would be great with respect to energy a we have to help people out. the people that believe that the brunt of energy and energy costs are the very poor people. i've heard numbers 25, 20%. we will do that to what the defense will do is get energy prices down even further. the oil companies will not be thrilled a lot of people will not be thrown batter into this is the energy should be coming down actually a lot further and i think it will. [applause]
>> barry walker and scott williams both are in the eyes have very similar questions about how to make america great again economically. i know that next thursday are coming out with your plan from an economic perspective it if you were to give us a glimpse of what we can expect from trump in the white house for reviving job in america, what would that look like? >> so, my whole life i've been working to build a great company. i build a truly great company, so the great assets of the world, turn buried in scotland, trump tower so many great assets, 40 wall street opposite the new york stock exchange, many, many iconic and wonderful as it. and i built a network that is over $10 billion with tremendous cash flow with very little debt, and it's an amazing company. and i will tell you that we had to do that now. other people to go out. they have to do it.
you need the american dream. i talk about this all of the time. again, the press, i'm afraid to say i can never say the american dream is dead because they always cutting off. i seem to contain is dead but we're going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before. and my wife comes home. acid which will? cheeselike very upset. i said what's wrong with you shouldn't say the american trade is dead. that's too harsh for i said your right but they did say they. i said the american dream is dead a we're going to make bigger and better and stronger than ever before. i turn on the television, i turned on and then trump and the american dream is dead. and i didn't get. i said wow, that's terrible. look, we're going to make the american dream, bring it back, bring it back so that people can really drink again. i have so may people saying that you can't do this anymore. you can build these great companies anymore. you can either build small
businesses because of regulation. i could name hundreds of bills, you look at the regulations that you have to go through to even put up a house let alone do a business. we can get rid of probably 75% of the regulations and been in many ways more than that. [applause] so they going to bring the american dream back to this country, create jobs because we're going to take them back from china and for going to take them back from japan and were going to get along with china and japan. what people don't realize the we'll have our negotiate with people that are political hacks. with people that gave contributions to the get jobs in the cover. i'm so funding by the way. i don't know if i get any credit for this. i don't know if i get credit. i really don't. i feel foolish. people want to give millions of dollars to buy camping and i said i'm not taking it. i feel foolish. it's like sort of a the way my mind works. i can watch the millions.
take it am i supposed to get i feel foolish. i don't know, i'm so funding, the only one cell phone to get all of these other people, and i'm finding the super pacs, it's ridiculous. they are controlling the politicians. they are controlling the packet -- the politicians are i think it's terrible. people are putting money into them, millions and they don't like trumpet i have all these ads against me and attended of course doesn't know about it. they put their best friend in charge. applicable in charge of the pac and to never ever speak. i veggie chili, it's disgraceful and they're breaking the laws but attacks are now controlling everything. the people that contribute to the pacs are really on a very, on a razor edge of the candidates are being controlled by a pac. himself a victim putting up my own money. when i fly here i'm paying for it 100%. that's the way it is the that's
the way it is. i do say one thing -- [applause] i just went and i was preface this, however, i'd love to my of women, and women contribute like $7.40 with a three-page letter to i people to get contribute to my campaign. it's not a lot of money but i love, the worst thing i could do send back small amounts of money. the weeks of small amounts of money because they are investing in the campaign that they are investing for the good of the country. they are not investing billions of dollars -- you understand what i'm saying. and i was saying to somebody people are getting 100, 200, 500 if i send back those checks and we don't want your money can is almost insulting but those are the people that love the country. the people they give millions of dollars, of which i then went over the years can nobody knows the system better than i do, i must tell you. that's why i'm coming at it -- >> he knows. >> i'm coming at it from a point of advantage because i was on
the system and the system is that the system. when somebody is giving billions of dollars to politicians or ipad and when a politician is in office and they want something done, then i think about the good of the country to get think about the good of the donor especially if they're not finished running for office again. [applause] so i'm the only person come on the only one running to the best of my knowledge that is so funding. that's the way i want to keep it. thank you. [cheers and applause] >> haley mitcham from spartanburg has a question. look at our foreign policy and, frankly, the failure of our foreign policy, the so-called red line in syria. >> terrible. >> leading from behind a semi paint has contributed to the syrian refugee challenge that we have. if you are president how would
you address the syrian refugee issue? >> so this is interesting because i know a lot about syria. i know a lot about what's a lot about what's happening. i took a chance. there's another point of a good chance of winning. i hate to give all this information out. does that make sense parks can you imagine general macarthur, john the pattern is over going to do, first of all you have syria, russia no now going into syria but you have russia wanting to fight isis. let them fight isis. that can fight them. tim may disagree but i can understand that. the russia wants to buy because they don't want ice is coming into russia. they have an obligation to fight them. in a certain way as much or more than we do. the other thing you have is syria, assad is our enemy, okay? isis is our enemy. they want to fight together but we are going in bombing a syria, three weekly, very timid. if you're going to win you have to win. we are bombing.
aside is probably saying these people of the nicest people in the world. they're knocking out our enemy. so you would almost say isis, let them fight assad. russia, let them fight isis. we will take care of iraq, and by the way, in 2003-2004 i was totally against going to i and most relativistic person industry. i will have a military so start nobody will mess with us, and you've heard me say that. nobody, nobody. but you've got to know when to use it and when not to use it. we went into iraq and i said big article in 2004, july in reuters, i said don't go into iraq. don't do it. you are making a mistake because you have iran and about and feel like this thing. in terms of strength. interests of military. and for years and years and years they fight, right? this way, this way, this way. but it cannot reach of the now we've knocked the hell out of
iraq after that is taking over everything sadly, i wish you people would pick up a reuters 2004. i said the following. if you destroyed iraq, which we did. which is why did not militarily and every other way, very weak obviously and very dishonest by the way the government of iraq and w. knows they take the money. they are right now talking to iran, going to be a merger. we spent by the way to trillion dollars and thousands of lives lost, thousands and by the what of both sides unbelievable amount of lives lost by thousands of american lives lost and wounded warriors who i love all over the place, right? we have nothing to fully nothing. what i said is that if you do this to iraq you're going to destabilize the middle east and iran will take over iraq, and other people will take over the leftovers. isis is taking over the leftovers. it all came out of iraq. isis can out of iraq the but then i say, i ask these questions and a what would you
do, like tim just asked and answered the same like i don't want the enemy, you know the word unpredictable? somebody wrote an article about the a few weeks ago, i really good article, a business article and what are my opponents said donald trump is totally unpredictable. it was meant to be a competent because i beat him on something. i love to win. don't we love that? anyway, i beat it is good but is it is. i said that's like a great compliment. you want to be unpredictable. you don't want to be sitting here telling tim connectors would like to get i go here, i go there. .com not know which are going to do, right? don't you think so? i think it's terrible. and here's what happened. dedicate these lightweights like rubio. he gets up and says donald trump didn't talk about foreign policy. i don't want to tell too much. i don't want to tell too much. he's right, he's fighting but he's been saying he doesn't know.
this guy is innocent even though he misses most about. i'm out working producing jobs all over the place and building a great company. but here's the thing. i don't want to talk too much about what i'm going to do. and in the press comes out and says well, he wasn't specific. hey, i went to the best school. i went to ivy league school. i was a good student everything was good. they talk but not specific. you don't want to be too specific. you don't want the enemy to you what you are doing. what i see obama -- [applause] when i see obama get up and say here's what we're going to do, we're going to do this and then that come and they don't somebody to knock out and 11 -- middle level accountant parts of the isis. it's too. we knocked out some guy, blah, blah, blah. that everybody else runs for cover. you don't want to talk about it if you want to knock out 100 of them before you start talking. there's too much talk, no action.
>> you would say your tax plan unveiled next week is going to be specific? >> it is going to be specific and create incentives and be a plan that will make people happy other than the hedge funds guy who make hundreds of millions and don't pay a lot of in taxes. i think they will all be my enemies. you know the truth? i think they will do better because everything is going to be better. we will produce jobs, i don't know if you know what corporate inversion is but companies want to leave the united states bought the taxes are too high. that is not going to happen anymore. you have probably 2.1 to 2.5 trillion sitting out of the united states and they cannot get the money back because the
taxes are too high. you have corporations who would have billions of dollars that should be in the country but the companies can't bring the money in. so they go out and they leave the country to get their money and also to get lower taxes and other things. so the corporate inversion i believe will stop. the democrats wanted to put a law against it. but it doesn't work that way. the corporations will stay, bring the money back andut it to work in this country and it is so easy. the thing that bothers me is democrats agree, republicans agree, everybody agrees, they have been talking about it for three years and it never gets done. >> no doubt. the value of the repate of two million is worth millions of jobs at home and it is about time we at home get that done. >> and everybody agrees to it. [applause]
>> i do think this, tim, when you about talk about the inversion, i think it is a very important subject. isn't exciting to people. but you have major, major corporations looking to leave this country with thousands and thousands of jobs and great companies. they are going other places where the taxes and corporate taxes are lower and they have certain other advantages. we have been smart into the country. we need someone great to be our next president. thank you very much all of you. [applause] >> we can't lose this. >> carl from charleston says we have a challenge with the size and scope of the federal government. there are so many departments that need to be scrutinized.
>> in colorado, the river was gold and yellow and the epa did it. the epa is one you would certainly, at a minimum, cut way back and maybe get rid of. you look at the department of education, bush likes common core. he wants your children in south carolina to be educated through the bureaucrats. you have nice and good people but how can you vote for that? i go to iowa, new hampshire, many places including new york, and california, and everybody agrees with me on this and yet you have this massive department
of education. local education where the parents can work with the teachers and principals is what it is all about. [applause] >> and by the way, we are ranked number 25 in one poll and 28 in another. you are double. we spend the most per student by far, not even close, yet 25 and number 28 in the various rating polls. it is crazy. so department of education will be another one.
[applause] >> kimberly ferguson from north augusta has concerns with the effects of the iranian deal. how do you intend to help protect israel from a regime that is moving toward a nuclear bomb? >> the iranian deal is the worst one i have seen. it is the most incompetent document i have seen. it is going to lead to nuclear proliferation. it was done by people who don't have a clue. we don't get our prisoners back even. we have four prisoners over there and they didn't esc n ask. we are giving them back. think about it. who would you rather have
negotiating? trump or the clowns negotiating right now? he falls off the bicycle race, kerry is off, he is our chief negotiator. i tell people i promise if i am president i will never go into the bicycle race because i will not have time. i will be working. the 24 days everyone knows and that doesn't start the inspection period. the clock could keep it longer than 24 days. they could cleanup and not know a damn thing. there are so many elements and when tim mentioned israel there is a clause in there no one understand that if iran gets
attacked we have to help them. and now you say what if israel attacks them are we supposed to be fighting israel? this is the most incompetent agreement anybody has ever seen. we will protect israel totally. >> you are alluding to, i believe, section 10 where the language is not clear on what your responsibility is and some drew that conclusion and i think it is important for us to realize the language of the iranian deal is ambiguous enough for the conclusion to be drawn that we may have a responsibility that we should not have, that we cannot have, especially when you think about israel as perhaps the best partner we have had. >> it is not even believable.
but there is language in there and theory that was supposed to come to the defense of iran. you know there is totally unbalanced and we protect everybody. they don't do anything for us. if we get attacked, japan doesn't have to do anything. if japan gets attacked we have to go fight for them. all of our agreements are like that. we are run by people who have no clue. if we get attacked japan can sit there and watch it on television that may make by the way. we don't make them. but if japan gets attacked, we have to defend them. all of our deals are like that. you take south korea. i ordered 4,000 television sets for a big job and they all came from south korea -- samsung, lg,
all of them but sony. every time north korea opens its up and gets angry that day and we start up the ships and planes and we get nothing. we have 28,000 soldiers sitting in between this potential disaster. it is one thing if we are -- something has to happen. somebody said to me, what a horrible thing to ask for payment that makes them a fortune. we owe tremendous amounts of money. we are up to $19 trillion. we cannot protect the world. we protect germany. germany. how many people have a mercedes benz? we protect japan.
we protect south korea. we protect everybody. and they all think we are stupid. they think we are stupid. we are run by, other than tim, very stupid people. >> speaking of things that are hard to believe, president obama has just started the process of looking for ways to regulate the internet. and he is using legislation from the 1930s. >> i can see it. >> if you look into our future, how important is the free market and the u.s. of technology and how bad of an idea is it for us to be using 1930's legislation to regulate the internet?
>> free market is imperative. the internet causes problems because people are finding out things about us they never knew. the hackers are genius whether from russia or china or north korea. they say the movie studio hacked from north korea. you know the story. the amazing thing is they say they hacked 30 million people. many being government employees. that means probably now. he has nothing to hide. we don't worry about him; right mom? but worried about others. the numbers vary from 10 million to 35 million. the governor is going after the cardinals for hacking the houston baseball's team. we have our priorities mixed up. we have countries that are so
sophisticated and you know one of the things we talk about immigration because i want people to come into this country. i want them to come in large numbers but i want them to be legal. i want really high end, smart brilliant people to come in or we'll lose our edge and job capacity. when you graduate number one in your class from harvard or yale or princeton or stanford and you want to stay in this country, you don't want to go back to china, japan, mexico but you want to stay in this country, we force you out. you are number one in your class. you love the country and want to stay here. a man from india went to a great school, good student, wanted to stay and couldn't get permission to stay. he started a company in india
and has 5,000 employees now. that could have been us. when you go years of college, this is something i think a lot of people agree to, too. the thing with the senate and house is there are so many things everybody agrees to. who would not let them agree. let them stay, build homes, build the businesses here. these are amazing people. and we force them to leave. so we have to change that. we have to change it fast. let them work in silicone valley. >> one of the amazing blessings of being from south carolina and living in north charleston is
the presence of boeing in south carolina. we have a question about the nrlb who tried to destroy jobs. >> i know what you went through for years with that. >> the right to work and the laws -- >> got to have right to work. >> what they put you through is incredible. thinking boeing almost said we are not coming. a bigger problem, i took out of the newspaper today, is boeing is going to build a massive plant in china. they wanted to build a big plant in china and i think that is going to have a huge impact. i think it is interesting. they can make their product in china and send it to us. if we send product to them they want us to think of it. we have to build plans in china bit -- but they don't have to
here. i read the story and there was such great interest they were ordering planes but boeing is building massive airplane factories in china. i don't like that. i really don't like that. [applause] >> we are down to our last two or three questions. >> good. [applause] >> are you going to stick around and talk to folks afterwards? >> all night. how about all night? >> all right with you guys? >> [applause] >> anthony span of columbia has a business driven question. what is the best decision you made in your life and what is your best decision you made in business? >> well maybe in terms of business decision always family, and children and we -- the children -- i have friends who are very successful but not happy people.
you know who they are and they are not happy. having a husband, wife, children, is really more important. i have seen everything. i have seen people with enormous wealth and miserable at home and people with modest income that are happy. i define success by a person being happy and that is more important than billions in the bank. one of the greatest decisions i made was coming from manhattan to queens. i haunted to build in manhattan. my father was a builder in brooklyn and queens and we built middle and low income housing. i said pop, i want to build buildings and it was something
that was so excited. i left and ended up doing the grand hyatt hotel and many buildings. trump palace and it has become just great. we are all over the world. one of the reasons people never thought i would run is they said why would you want to do that? i want to do it because i feel i owe something. i feel i owe something.
>> this meeting you have coming up seems to be in opposition. >> my relationship with african-american people and businesses has been fantastic. i spoke in front of the african-american chambers of commerce today, went there, and flew over here. my relationship has been great. trump received 25% of that voting bloc in the national
election according to a report today. it is a great poll. it is 25%. you were saying generally speaking a republican candidate would receive what? >> i think about 4%. >> 4-5%. if you get to 25% the election is over. >> it is over. >> it is lucky i had the real poll in my hand. you know, 25% of the general election match up and that is an enormous number and i think it will be higher than that. i have had a great relationship with the african-american community, i have had a great relationship with hispanics and i have been saying i will win the hispanic vote but because of the statements on immigration a lot of people disagree. they came out with a poll in the state of nevada where i won the state easily against all of the republican candidates but i won
the hispanic vote and people were surprised. hispanics are here. they have gone through a long process and are here legally. i have employed thousands of hispanics and right now in many places i have thousands of hispanic employees and i think i am going to win that vote. so it is -- maybe it is a little different. but i will say african-american great relationship. hispanic, a really good relationship and i think people are going to see that as we progress. one of the things that both groups really like is the fact i am going to create jobs. no body is going to create jobs.
>> a few questions and i will let you open it up. first question, don't answer it untul i say the second question. who is harder to deal with? rel estate developers or politicians. >> politicians are more dishonest. i thought the real estate guys were the worseme. i have seen a great dishonest in politics. it is a mixed bag. it is a mixed bag. in politics and real estate it is cut-throat. in politics, i met wonderful people and really bad people. really dishonest people.
and at some point, we have to do to a book on this stuff. but i met some great people involved. >> think about it. >> you know what is interesting? the media and politics is much different than the media in finance. maybe finance is easier because it is more numbers based. but i met wonderful people in the media and politics but really dishonest media folks in having to deal with politics. it is a mixed bag. but i think politics would be more deceptive than real estate development. not an easy life. i met wonderful people but met really bad people as well. >> fair enough. >> are you shocked to hear that? >> no. >> last question. america has in my opinion for the last several years been moving further and further apart. with druconald trump as the
president of the united states, how do you bring everyone together? how do we have one america? >> my enemies say he voted for obama. i helped john mccain. he did a bad job and didn't get elected. i helped romney, he didn't get elected. this time i said i am doing it myself. last time i thought we should have won. in all fairness, mccain had the problems and i think lincoln couldn't have been elected there. romney should have won. he choked and something happened. he choked like a golfer on the 18th hole. that was an election that should
have been won. i thought that president obama, the one thing i thought is he would be a great cheerleader for the country and bring the country together and honestly there is probably a divide right now in the country with the likes we have not seen for many years. you know it better than i do, sir. and people talk about my tone and my temperment. i have a great temperment. i a great temperament.
i think i will get along with putin and bring our country together. when you look at baltimore -- the baltimore thing was so bad. you look at what is going on in ferguson and st. louis. we have to bring people together. we need jobs and spirit and maybe just as much as we need jobs. we will bring them together and make our country great again and i appreciate you being here. this is great.
we take you to the road to the white house. town hall meetings, news conferences, rallies and speeches. we are taking your comments on twitter, facebook and by phone. and always every camp campaign event we cover is able at cspan.org. >> the commissional on presidential debate announced three debates. monday september 26th in 2016 on
the campus of right state university in dayton, iowa. the second is october 9th at washington university in st. louis. and october 19th at the university of nevadnevada. joining us on the phone is the co-chair of the debates. thanks for being here. >> walk us through the election process. what led to the four universities? >> in the 28 years we have been doing this what we do is the year before the debates we send out to all of the colleges and universities in the countries in effect a request for a bid and indicate what they have to do, produce, there has to be so many hotel rooms within a certain area because 5,000 reporters will be there, and then we get
in bids. because originally we narrowed what we had for this year and next year down to 16 schools. and then we have a team of tech nilogical people, camera and lighting people, who go out and find people, visit the possible venues, come back to us, and then we make some other cuts and of course we have the secret service that is involved. they want to make sure whatever site we chose they can lock down for security purposes. and that 16 was then moved down to five. and then we also try -- it is not always possible but we try to get diversity geographically. if we had our way it would be north, southwest, and east or something like that. but it doesn't work out. we went to washington university in st. louis and that was our western site because it was on
the western side of the mississippi river because we didn't get enough acceptable bids from the west. what we have for this year is ohio which is a very important state, i think, in the presidential election. virginia was one spot and there hasn't been one in virginia for many years. and longwood university is a very interesting school because it is primarily one of the schools involved in the brown versus board of education case. a very important case for the nation'sory and the university did a wonderful job. washington university has been a poplar one was of the marvelous facilities and the secret service really likes the university because of the ability for security. and university of nevada las
vase vegas is our west coast choice. >> what about the possibility of a third party candidate? what is the criteria to admit such? >> the criteria is you have to meet the constitutional requirements of being a native born, 35 years of age, you have to be on enough ballots to get 270 votes, and prior to the debate you have to be at 15% in a average of five major polls. the commission is still considering what we are going to do with regard to criteria. we had a number of suggestions made to us by a number of different groups. one called for whoever gets the most signatures to qualify for 270 votes. we have one that said anybody who gets on enough ballots should be in it. another one saying there should
be an online voting situation and whoever wins the online votes will win that. there is a bunch of suggestions we still have under consideration as well as considerations in changing format. we made a significant change in 2012 by dividing two of the debates, the first and last, into 15 minute segments. the moderators select what will be covered and that gave the moderator to drill down and get into the meat of the issues rather than having a one or two minute response. so we were very, very pleased because the result last time in 2012 is you had the candidates talking to each other and debating. there has been criticism and we want to see if woe want to continue spin alley. the circus atmosphere after the debate where supporters of each
candidate go into the a room and explain why their people won. there is a bunch of suggestions we have. and the town hall meeting as to whether or not there is a way we can involve modern technology and social media into the town hall meeting and having questions from the citizens there. we have a lot of work and hope to make major announcements particularly with the criteria within the next month. we would like to announce the criteria is year before the election so anyone thinking about running for president knows what they have to do to qualify to be in the debate. >> we are a year out but will the debates remain 90 minutes and are you confident whoever the nominee is they will participate? >> there is no ruling they have to participate. since the time i was on the commission it has conducted 19
presidential debates and seven vice presidential debates. i think it would be hard in today's world for a major candidate to say well i am not going to participate in debates. it is not impossible. if you remember back in 1980 when the league of women voters were operating the debate john anderson was above 15% and invited to participate, accepted and then jimmy carter said i will not participate. so the first debate was between carter and reagan. we have come a long way since then. but there is no way you can force a candidate who doesn't want to debate to debate. >> the length of the debates? >> i think we are looking at the 90 minutes. we haven't made a final decision. that is another format decision we will make.
i thought the three hour debate was extremely long but there were 16-17 people on stage. we hope we don't get to that position. but i think if you can keep it 90 minutes, maybe stretch it to two hours, but those are not decided yet. >> if you want more information on the 2016 debates and location check it out at debate.org. thank you very much for being with us. >> the pope's visit to the united states. we have coverage from washington, d.c., the first stop on the pope's tour. thursday morning pope francis makes history being the first pontiff to address congress and live coverage from new york after that on c-span3, radio and
our website. and at 11:30 the pontiff will hold a service at the 9/11 museum and memorial. and on our next washington journal as pope francis heads to capitol hill to address a joint meeting of congress we will look at security preparation and precautions for the pope's visit and the topics likely to come up in the speech to lawmakers. washington journal gets underway at a special time tomorrow morning. 6:45 eastern on c-span. we welcome your calls and comments on facebook and twitter as always. lincoln sat down to talk about his record and talked about
comb combating sis, campaign finance and minimum wage. this is 25 minutes. >> commitment 2015 special in partnership with the new hampshire institute of politics and support from the case and children action networks. conversation with the candidate. former rhode island governor lincoln chafee. >> tonight our guest is lincoln chafee and we will be getting to know him. i will ask questions and after the break we go to the studio audience for their take on this. let's look at the candidate's
biography. born in rhode island in 1953 earning is degree from brown university and then went to horse shoe school and worked as a blacksmith. he was elected the it mayor of war wick in 1992 and several times. he was elected to fill the senate spot of his father. he was elected in 2000 to a full six year term and then elected governor of rhode island. he is running for president as a democrat and believes in prosperity through peaceful means, removing tax loopholes for wealthy, and many other
things. >> horse shoeing school. how did that happen? >> i worked construction in the summer and wanted a trade. i saw an ad, went to school in the ad and did well. i shoed horse races in alberta canada and did that for seven years. >> let's talk about the campaign. people know about it in rohode island but outside of that people are not familiar. why are you running? >> i have three children and care deeply about where we are going. my experience of being a mayor, senator and governor is unique and all republicans and democrats running i am the only one with local, federal and state experience. and for that time i had high
ethical standards and no scandals. the experience, character and the vision as the bio said of a more peaceful world, bringing resources home, working together with the united nation partners and that is my vision for the world. >> you are in a field with a national frontrunner. hillary clinton, bernie sanders, o'malley is struggling. how do you break through and get your voice heard? >> it is a long process. history shows especially in '04 john kerry wasn't going anywhere until the end. he was not in the picture until then. people started focusing in december and january. if you have a good record of what you did in public service and your character of honesty and courage that will sit
through to the voters and you get momentum in those two states. >> what about the possibility of joe biden entering the race? >> i think he's going to get in. dynamics are changing with the frontrunner and different issues occurring. i welcome everybody for the race. they showed a clip of people at the fourth of july parades and they were saying i am glad you are running, we want choices. >> let me ask you about your political history. how did you morph into being a republican and independent into a democrat? >> i never changed on the issues. i have been pro-choice my career, anti-war, for the environment, for social programs to help build the middle class. my party changed. there was less and less room for
moderate liberals such as me. in 2006 in my re-election for the senate i had a primary because republicans didn't think they wanted a liberal, moderate republican and i won the primary but the issues were changing. anti-war, pro-environment, pro-choice and the priorities changed in the republican party. >> there is climate change, economy, foreign policy, from your standpoint what do you think is the most important issue and challenge that will face the next president? >> i think the endless wars overseas. we made a huge mistake of taking down hussein and going into iraq. my feeling was we just finished with vietnam veteran issues and getting into something else was the last thing i wanted to do without strong evidence we
needed to do and the evidence wasn't there. now we have to fix it. that is the biggest challenge. it is spreading with taliban, isis, boca haram. we have to end this. the refuges that are fleeing the war-torn countries that are being destabilized. you say what are the priorities? the economy, building the middle class, health care and education are and have been priorities but ending the conflict overseas need to be a priority. >> one more thing before we take the break to get to the audience is the surge with sanders and on the other side trump.
pundits are saying they have never seen anything like this. what do you think of it? >> it is early. when we get to december and january and new leaves on the trees and snow on the ground people start focusing. everybody knows it. >> do you think that is an appetite for something different? something that hasn't been tried before? >> the economy is coming back. when they have growth to it. people are less angry. certainly 2010 and i was elected governor in 2010 people were angry and homes were being foreclosed on. they could not find work. they were getting laid off. those are tough times. i think it will be a little different. economy chugging away. a little voltile but -- vol tile