tv Open Phones with Senator Bernie Sanders CSPAN November 20, 2016 7:15am-7:51am EST
escape what was happening. i asked my mom that when i discovered. i did not know we could leave. i only knew the country of zen and one day i asked my mom, why the hell didn't we leave because my dad was swiss. i was like are you kidding me, i mean, we could have been skiing? are you kidding me? and my mom said one of the most powerful things to me. she looked me and she said, leave and go-- she said this is my country. she said i'm not going to let someone chased me out of my country. i'm going to say here and claim what is mine. [applause]. we cou >> so, it's as simple as that. i didn't leave because i didn't know we could leave. i don't think i would have been as strong as my mother was, but she would not allow someone to take what was hers in exchange for an easier life. >> last question. >> i made it.
i'm lena. nice to you. i grew up in america. clearly i'm biracial and i experienced a lots of color is him within racism within the actual community because i was not fully black or vice versa on the white side. did you experience the same color is him in south africa growing up as a kid?blacks did the blacks ever make you feel different from them and look at you a certain wayas because you are not as dark as they were? >> no, i was really lucky in that i did not experience is that within the and i think it is partly because of the hierarchy that was created and so i found that within the black community and was welcomedty because in essence what i found even when traveling the world a lot of the time communities that are having tougher time or experience that is not
particularly present-- pleasant are more petite nicer to outsiders. there like no one would want to be here, come on in, so those communities were more welcoming and i never experienced that an african communities. i did experience that in-- we do that let all the time. often times it's easier to be an insider as an outsider and it is to be an outsider that's anan insider and what, i mean, by that is, it was easier to me to be accepted by black people because it was a quickim discussion and decision that was made immediately and that was clearly we can see we are different and you choose to be here and then we move on from here. whereas people who see that i'm not like them? via was not the same and i had people now rejected me because they felt i was rejecting them d
by being myself and that's something we have to be careful of the. we do that all the time in our communities when we feel someone should be exactly like this and we shun them because we feel they are living a life different than ours in fact when they are being true to themselves. that is something i did not experience at an extreme level, but i know what you are talking about. >> i was standing at the back and someone whispered in my ear and said i was liked him because he was smart and funny, but now i also know he's a beautifulea human being thomas i want to thank you very very much. thank you for being with us here at the miami book fair. i also want to thank bob weisberg for it-- for a remarkable conversation as well. thank you, bob. [applause].
♪ ♪ [cheers and applause]] >> miami book fair, but just if you met-- minutes ago senator bernie sanders arrived here on the campus of miami-dade college to do a call in program to talk about his newest book: "our revolution: a future to beleive in" senator sanders, you write from page 167 that the clintonin campaign may not have liked it and the democratic astonishment may not have liked it, but it
was becoming increasingly clear that i was the strongest candidate if the democrats were to retain the white house. >> the polling showed state-by-state in almost all states, not all, but nationally i was running better than secretary clinton against mr. trump in some cases in big numbers. >> the nass-- last couple months in our college shows we have heard from a lot of sanders supporters who say i was supporting bernie sanders, but now that he's got that are now supporting donald trump. had is that connect with you? guest: it connects in the sense that important reality in this country today that media and many politicians have missed is that a lot of people are in a lot of pain. we have a middle class that has declined. roughly half of all the workers today, half who
have nothing in the bank as they move into retirement. elderly people cutting their prescription. moms out there who cannot afford childcare with their kids. you have kids graduating college today, 50, $100,000 in debt making 12 bucks an hour. that's the reality that the media has kind of distant and most politicians.ghout throughout my entire political career that is what i been talkingre about, but there's something fundamentally wrong when in the richest country in the history of the world, which is what we arerewe today, the middle class continues to decline with 43 million people in poverty and almost all the income and wealth is going to the top 1%. it's been my message and then mr. trump comes along and says, well, the establishment is not working. on the multibillionaire and i will take on the establishment.
i will take on the politicians and i'm going to take on wallre street and i'm going to take on that drug companies and i can do it. i'm the only one, by the way, who can do it and people responded to that, so to mr. trump's credit what he understood is there is a lot of anger and pain and frustration out there. we have a long list of all of the things that mr. trump promised or his campaign and we are going to introduce i mean many of these ideas are ideas that i and many others have been fo t talking about, so we will see what degree he was telling the americanut people the truth or to a degree these were simply campaign rhetoric in which he has noo intention to fulfill, but we will press him and introduce legislation any-- we hope he works with us. host: senator bernie sanders will be speaking at the miami book fair in a little over an hour and we will cover that live on book tv, so this is your chance to talk with him. the numbers are on the
screen. did y this is your fourth book. when did you have a chance to read this? guest: not much. i wrote it after the campaign. we took very little bit of time off after the campaign and some of fremont's working very long and hard on the book. host: if you had been elected president he talk about this in the book, would you have had to raise taxes for similar programs you've advocated for quaint back absolutely. at a time when you have billionaires like donald trump not pain eight nickel and federal income tax and major corporations stashing their profits in the cayman islands after making billions of dollars in profits and not paying a penny in the federal corporate taxes, of course we would demand this people paid their fair share of taxes. one of the concerns i
have is the grotesque level of income and wealth in inequality that we have today. you have the top of one 10th of 1% owning almost as much as the bottom 90%. does anyone think that's what america is supposed to be about? that has got to change and i will do my best as a united states senator to make those changes.s host: page 51 of "our revolution", click's over the years we see a huge amount of money, campaign contributions and speaking fees from powerful financial interest in corporate america weather was on the campaign trail or in their private lives they spend an enormous amount of time raising money from the wealthy and powerful. guest: yes.alable host: is that the state of the democratic party?'s exa guest: that except they what i'm working on right now. i think that mr. trump may and most of the
people who voted for mr. trump, i don't think they are racist or sexist. i think that they are people in desperation who are hurting and they are in pain and they look around and they say what has the democratic party done for me and the truth is that today after eight years of president obama our economy is in much better shape than it was when bush left office. that's just a fact. when bush left office we released a hundred thousand jobs a month. our world financial system was on the verge of collapse and we were running over $1.4 trillion deficit. are we better off? of course we are at obama deserves credit for that, but here's a very big but, while that improvement has taken place, it has not been enough.to to me people are still hurting. you have got millions of workers today who are making less than they
made 40 years ago and they are saying, what's going on. why am i working more and more hours for low wages and they're worried to death about their children. their children have to get a decent job, so in my view obama has made progress, but not enough it is time for theis democratic party to undergo a fundamental change and decide which aside. you can't get money from wall street and you coddle the pharmaceutical industry. @december the working families of this country and tell wall street that we will break up these large banks and that their greed and illegal behavior is unacceptable. we will tell the pharmaceutical industry to top-- stop ripping off the people. five major drug companies last year made $50 billion in profits and millions of people can afford that medicine they need, so there is a
lot of work that needs to be done, but the democratic party-- party has to undergo a present-- change.he host: as a newest member of the democratic leadership team in the senate, how will you affect that change? guest: that's it i'm thinking about right now, but the change in my view of what i want to see happen is the transformation of the democratic party to be a party, which really is a grassroots party. which opens up to working people and says, yes, we know you can't make it on 10 bucks an hour. we know you are hurting us your job went to china or mexico and we know you can't afford to send your kids to college. a stand with us and open the door to young people peter, if there is anything that impressed me in my campaign is the opportunity to speak to so many very beautiful young people and anyone watching that is
pessimistic about the future of this country above and beyond the recent election, no there is a generation of young people out there who really love this country, who will work hard to make this w country become what we know it can become. this is a generation, which is the least racist generation, least sexist generation, least homophobic generation in history of our country. the generation most concerned about the environment and climate change. it's a very beautiful group of people and we want to bring them into the democratic party.le host: senator sanders newest book is called "our revolution". here's the cover. let's hear from margarets. c31 of all, thank you so much for running. i wore your t-shirt. i had to be in kansas and i used to live in chicago. i was very shocked. you are very wrong, sir,say th
when you say there is not racist and things. here was like people still talking about obama as a socialist, a communist took people using religion to hate gays. i was very proud of the two democrats that run in the brownback hostile kansas, but my questiont is i'm 66. i can't hit the streets anymore. i've had less cancer and i'm so afraid social security and medicare will be taken away and i don't know how much more poverty i can still manage. the sisters of charity help me here. there's no public transportation. i get $16 in food stamps a month. its healthcare that i know is not the greatest there's nothing-- nowhere to go towards the bottom. guest: margaret, let me just say this and in terms of your firstu point. by more than aware that
racism and sexism existxism e in america. my point was that i think that was not the dominant reason that mr. trump one, but let me go to your second point and this is important. we are going to hold mr. trump accountable. he ran for republican primary and he set-- he said on the only republican candidate, what with a 19, candidates? on the only candidate running in that primary who does not believe that we should cut social security, medicare or medicaid. donald trump, i will not cut social security,y, medicare, medicaid. he got most republicans out there in the congress, not all, butt most of them do want to cut social security, medicare and medicaid and give you tax breaks to billionaires, but we will hold trump accountable. we will hold him to his word or car myself
believe we should expand social security because people can't make it on 11 over $12000 a year, but we will hold trump accountable. he said he will not cut social security, medicare and medicaid and i will do everythingi i can to make sure he does not cut social security, medicare or medicaid. host: stephen in ohio. though had. caller: hello. this question is for bernie. i want to know way the bernie is helping to lead the movement to form a new party? guest: fair question and i thini as i trust of many of the viewers know that on the longest-serving independent in the history of united states. congress, i was elected mayor defeating democrats and
republicans call i know a little bit about it. i know it's very very, very hard to puthe together a strong third party and right now where i am is trying to significantly change and transform and reform the democratic party to make a party for two people, of young people. a party which will stand up for the fossil fuel industry and wall streetet and the drug companies and the insurance companies. we are the wealthiest country in the history of the world. we should not have to receive calls from people like margaret who are wondering how they will survive unlimited amounts of money of social security. that's not what this country should be errorm about, but right now that's where am and i will do everything i cansure tha to make sure that the democratic party has the guts to stand up to the big money interests who have so much power over the economic and political life of this country. host: now that you have joined a leadership are you bernie
sanders d vermont part i lot? guest: independent. >> i w host: c2. caller: in the first place, i don't trust donald trump. eli's with every breath you take seven he scares me to death. i think he wants to classes of people, the rich and poor. that's what they have in communism. does this frighten you any or do you really think the government can control him?s me - guest: know he makes me-- work, i spent the last two weeks of the campaign going to 12 states around this country includinges iowa doing my best to see that donald trump lost that election, so of course he frightens me of the people he has around him make the very very nervous, but we are where we are right now and what i can say is that any democratic society people can
disagree on a lot of issues, but where there can be no compromise is on the issue of bigotry. we have a trump who has a record of having led the so-called birther movement and must be clear, that so-called birther movement was in racist effort to undermine the first african american president in history. to undermine his legitimacy is grotesque and unacceptable, so we will keep our eye on this mr. trump in terms of his relationship to african-americans, his ideas in the statements he made about the latino community, accusing latinos of being criminals and rapists and immigration thoughts about sweeping upthis cou millions of people and throwing them out of this country, unacceptable. his views on islam, one of the largest religionsli in the world, this
unconstitutional idea that we can keep people of a certain religion from entering the us. all of those issues should be of great concern to every american and a fighting to make sure that we remain a nondiscriminatory society. we have come a long way in fighting discoloration.ar we are not going back. we will not have a racist, sexist type ofpe society. we have got to go forward. host: page 292 of "our revolution": president obama's a friend of mine and i have worked with him on many issues, but on the issue of trade he has .een dead wrong guest: yes, not only him in my view. when we talk about why the middle class in this country has been shrinking, why we have seen thousands and thousands of factoriesnd shut down over the last 20 years, that has a lot to do with our disastrous trade policies. no one should be fooled. these trade policies are
created and written by robert america, by the pharmaceutical industry, by the big money interests and the function of those trade policies by a large is to allow corporations to shut down in the united states, move to china, mexico and other low-wage countries. i helped move the effort against the transpacific partnership and i'm delighted that is dead. we need a new trade policy, which benefits american workers and not just the ceos of large corporations as. host: next call for senator bernie sanders comes from adrian in california. caller: hello, mr. standers. host: we are listening. caller: i just had a question, i don't really trust donald trump who is the people he has surrounded with. the world council and national policy people the christian zionists,
war hawks and i just-- first avenue city you that i agree with your works on trade and the war in iraq and your vote against the patriot act and things you have shown that, you know, y you are what you stand for and you are for that, but my question is, do you believe that's why you were railroaded with the dnc because of your voting record and, you know, the ways you've shown you stand for pretty much what's right? guest: will come in the dnc is part of the establishment and during the course of the t campaign as i think many viewers will remember they were not playing fairly. but, we had to take and mrs. important and this is what is make off in the future. in my campaign and we talk this a great deal in the book. we had to take on the entire democratic
establishment. we had to take on every governor, every mayor, the entire democratic party of the u.s. senate with that exception of senator merkley of oregon. few members of the house of representatives support me. we had to take them all on, yet we ended up twit-- winning 22 states , getting 46% of all pledged delegates and by the way, we ended up reading in every state with young people, blacks, latino, white, asian american, native americans, so we had to take the bond.ident an and i feel good about what we accomplished, but obviously the political revolution has to continue going forward to. host: "our revolution" is a bernie sanders for the can book tv has covered all four of his books. outsider in house was his first in 1998. the speech came out 2011 , that was his filibuster and outsider in the white house just came out last year and
now our revolution is out this year. have you talk to donald trump sets election? guest: no, i have not. host: next call is gene in oakland, california. caller: hello, senator sanders. i'm glad to see-- [inaudible] caller: we are disappointed youc are not elected president. very scary process backed, next four years. what do you think might have been with social security medicare under trump? is there a possibility that they may be privatized or gutted. guest: work, the answer to the
question is the american people overwhelmingly, not only do nott want to see social security cut, not only do they not want to see social security privatized, the american people want to see social security expanded because they know disabled veterans,aken senior citizens, people with disabilities cannot make it on 11 or $12000 a year and trump as i mentioned earlier during his campaign to get votes he said he would not cut social security, medicare medicaid, but what i don't want i think you know is that in the republican party right now you have all kinds of people who are salivating at the prospect of cutting social security or privatizing social security after converting medicare into a voucher program. so, the question is whether the trump will keep his word or not, but i will tie you that we are going to do everything we can to rally the american
people, not cut social security, medicare medicaid. to any people in america today are living inal secur poverty, in desperation i cannot afford their prescription drugs and we are not going to cut programs that are life-and-death for semi- americans. host: from "our revolution", this is a sentence that i think donald trump would agree with: our infrastructures crumbling. what the most important parts of your agenda was creating millions of new jobs by rebuilding our infrastructure. guest: yes, no question that our infrastructure is collapsing. that is our roads, bridges. i was in flint, michigan, during the campaign and their water system is unspeakable, going on to some degree all over this country. we use due to have the best real system in the world and that's no longer the case. airports are deteriorating. we can create, i proposed an investment over a five-year period
to create 13 million decent paying jobs and c mr. trump has been talking about rebuilding of the structure. i hope his ideas are not simply giving tax breaks to corporations. privatizing our roads and bridges would be a disaster, but if he isil serious about rebuilding our office structure that is a positive ideaa that we could go forward with. mr. trump, during his campaign, told the american people that he thought that climate change was a hoax. well, let's me just be as clear as i could be here, member of the u.s. senate terminal community. climate change is not a hoax. climate change is a threat to this entire planet. is caused by human activity and if we do not get our act together in the very near futuretogeth and transform our energy system away from fossil fuels and energy efficiency we will see more drought, more
floods, more extreme weather disturbances. we are here in miami beach of florida that we see more rising sea levels that willls tha threaten this very city. mr. trump, i hope, i. hope is smart enough to know that he has to listen to the scientists cannot just the fossil fuel industry.ore ca host: stephen from new york, go ahead. caller: hello. guest: hello? caller: i am very much proud of you, bernie and very much in favor of what you stood for. as a public, i think we are all asking for oneor thing, that is to all of us try to work together and reduce the rhetoric, the noise because we need healing. we need to pull together. it's not the idea that it should not be as against them are themin
against. i think if we could all work together, i think, all of us are smart enough to make it happen. what you think? guest: well, i think, steve, that there is much more commonality among the americanit people than the media allows us to believe. i'm not going to say there are not people in this country, people watching this program will not disagree with me and others on abortion i'm strongly pro-choice. island gay marriage, i believe in gay marriage, but on the other hand, if you look at issues like raising the minimumor wage, pay equity for women and we just talked about rebuilding our crumbling of the structure, making college affordable for all of our young people, demanding the wealthy and large corporations start paying their fair share of taxes. you'd be surprised at how many progressives
and conservatives share similar views on many of those issues. at the in that the day, if you are a a conservative you want to see your kid be able to go to college. you want to earn a decent wage. i think in many ways there is more commonality than the media allows us to believe. host: donna in california, you get the last word with a senator sanders. caller: hello, senator sanders. host: we are listening. please go ahead. caller: hi, senator sanders. guest: how're you? caller: hello. the question i have, congratulations on your book-- my question is do you have any regrets? i want to add to that,t, i'm glad you did the book. you are a phenomenal leader. do you have any regrets.
host: donna, we are out of time. guest: well, i did not quite here the question, but donna, thank you very much for your kind words and i hope peopleoplt take the time to read the book, but the book is about the campaign and what we try to do in the book is give very common sense, practical solutions to the major crises we face, the a comic, healthcare, criminal justice, immigration reform them a climate change and so forth. host: lets end with political question, tim ryan and nancy pelosi, do you have a dog in that fight? guest: nancy is a friend of mine and tim's view-- tim ryan. i was in the house for a number of years, but i will let the democrats in the house sort that one out. host: senator bernie sanders, "our revolution: a future to
beleive in". years the cover of the book and in a little over an hour senator sanders will be live on book tv. coming up next: program with retired general andrew bacevich whose book is about the middle east and america's wars in the middle east and that's coming up in just >>few minutes. >> here's a look at this year's winners of the national book award. nonfiction award for history of racism in america stance from the beginning and representative john lewis and andrew aydin won the young people's literature award for the third installment of the settled full rights of movement.
>> book tv is on twitter and facebook and we want to hear from you appeared tweet us, twitter.com. /book tv or post a comment on her facebook page, facebook.com. /book tv. >> after the recent presidential election the "new york times" suggested six books to help understand auto trumps went. first, the unwinding in which new yorker staff writer george packer argues that people across the country has suffered at the hands of the political system over the last three decades. national book awardbowa finalists harley rock oh -- russell, conservative americans and reports on their concerns about liberal
policies and, strangers in their own land. also on the list is: hillbilly lg. jb vance chronicles the decline of white working-class americans in the rest about.lection the "new york times" recommends that in order to understand donald trump and election 2015 read thomas franks, listen liberal. he argues the democratic elite has abandoned its traditional commitment to the working-class. in the populist explosion, it contends both major parties are turning the election into a circus of populist ideas and historian nancy isenberg provides a history of class in america in: white trash. that's a barracks that the "new york times" has suggested to understand the 2016 presidential election. many of these authors have or will appear on book tv. you can watch them ontc our website, book tv.org. >> when we confronted the pakistanis, we weree
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