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>> i was the last panel of the day at the "los angeles times" festival books at the university of southern california. another full day tomorrow. panels on the environment, history, slavery common state of california, several columns as well. full schedule available at the r we are pleased to join us here for a final statement of the day, author and radio talkshow host hugh hewitt's most recent book the fourth way. the conservative playbook for a lasting gop how is donald trump doing? >> is doing great, peter. thank you for having me back. this is the 20th time afterin all these years. 100 days comes up next week. between third and congressional review act.
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new-line this, not regulations between the syria reaction, afghanistan moab primary sponsor north korea, budget and especially because the justice at 60 goodbye to win more than the first 200 days. >> host: what is significant u about the budget? s. go $55 million -- but is this broken out at the starvation starvation years for the department of defense. mick mulvaney commit is not known for being a defense spending is a budget hawk.gggi he's always said the deficits bigger national security problem . it's going in the right direction by the time it getshe
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through, -- chuck schumer wants to set down. his space demands or shut down and his hard-core 10% wants to be seen to be fighting. senator schumer has been a smart guy. and he knows it is not smart to filibuster neil gorsuch because they reduce the ability tofirm t nominate 51 votes as opposed to having a filibuster available and now it's down to 51. forest fires based to shut the government and that this time the government when republicans have been in the white house. he won't shut down the st. louis arch or the national mall. they will shut down all sorts of
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things that left loves. >> where do you grade the health care debate? >> republicans. part of that is the presidents fault. part of that is fall rains fall. but mostly i blame the freedom caucus for what i call the area of 51 cents caucus who believe -- they pretend that the senate has more republicans in it than it does. they will go to my cave to cave. they're not. they pretend that the rollback of the ban on preexisting conditions can be pushed away. so they pretend to watch in this 20 to 25 members have got to realize incrementalism lurks to i'll take 80% of a good deal and hopefully by this time a month
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from now we'll get there. >> host: hugh hewitt, when you look at the fourth way, whether they get over dishes? >> guest: they've got to get over immigration. donald trump has evidence that already by not reporting on the tree and three kids. he said don't worry, we're keeping it. that's very good. one supporter walk a step in with additional security in the portrait there is a deal to be had with democrats on immigration reform. he's got to have an infrastructure package. the fourth way talks about how to do that the right way. he got done with one 10th ofth the money than presidential, high-speed the most effective thing in repudiating the foreigy policy. the fourth way is how to do foreign policy the right-wing has been effective in doing it the right way to aspire.
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>> host: what you mean to say the fourth way? ask )-right-paren a 50 ship navy paid a much larger marine corps than we presently have any do everything you can to telegraph the american response to be one of great strength and not one of weakness. when syria violates the u.n. chemical convention, and he dropped 59 cruise missiles on a mass murderer. >> host: michael or sms on this program earlier to talk about his book. one of the things he writes in his most recent book is that donald trump is the most dangerous, racist demagoguell we've ever had in office. >> guest: that would overlook a lot of people prior to the civil war were slaveholders. michael is a friend in the senate panel earlier.ry he's a smart guy and provocateur but you have to resolve pre-civil war history tickets back. i don't agree with him on that. i also agree personally from dealing with trump for president
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151010 and radio, i don't think it's a racist, but i don't believe any of that stuff. he's a i've represented developers fory 30 years. whatever room therein in order to get the deals a lot done. i really don't believe michael is right. see throughout a question from the middle of the room to derek who is your guests earlier. that was a very funny question. michael knows what he's doing. he's a provocateur. he's very good at it. >> host: during the primary, who's supporting? >> guest: i didn't because i was during the debates. out of switzerland. i did 170 enemies at every republican except jim gilmore. so 170 different engineers. each one of the candidates that see how is fair beginning to end after president trump on the nomination i supported him. i criticized him when necessary,
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but after that was over, i was not in the least to support in practice on my campaign for sheriff david clarke, jon voight and a few other people in order to have supporter. we went to simply state that turned red. i do think we have a say in that. >> host: how is paul ryan doing? >> guest: but except for the health care fiasco. i think the speaker along with mitch mcconnell needs to spendh a lot more time at the caucus to explain we could get week -- i'm a conservative republican. we could get wiped out in 20 team if we do not deliver a sufficient number of legislative victories. the cba are real but areas that they are significant beyond what people understand because they are bars to the door going forward. "-begin-quote i can regulate in an area where congressional
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regulation has been revealed by a cr eight ouch. 15 and 16 of those. in fact, we are talking about whether it was dropped on thepa paris agreement into paris agreement is a regulation under under the congressional review act statute. if the house and the senate repealed that a simple majority vote, not only would it be out of the paris agreement, we won't really go back except by statutory act. i'm hoping speaker ryan and mitch mcconnell: notcent b direction soon. >> host: hugh hewitt is our guest. his most recent book is called "the fourth way: the conservative playbook for a lasting gop majority." m here's how you can call us. (202)748-8200 for those of you in the eastern central time 748-8201 and the amount and pacific time zones. o we'll also put up our twitter address of the effect like to send a tweaked@booktv and facebook you can make a comment.
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you will see a posting about "the los angeles times" festival of books.ngf you can make a posting under that. tv. we will get to those calls in just a few minutes. hugh hewitt, in 2006 he wrote a book called painting the map red: fight to create a permanent republican majority. did that book stand up?it >> guest: it has because lecturing to the calls for atiof border fence like "the fourth way" called for immigration reform, like "the fourth way" called for a large navy, like "the fourth way" called for politics. i've been urging the visible expression of the invisible s commitment to sovereignty on the southern border for quite a long time. i've lived in southern california for quite a long time. i have found to tijuana and beyond. my church do some work down there and it works. its effect is. i also believe once it's in place, most americans look oversleeping regularization.
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notice in the deportation that in california. welcome back to los angeles. there might be a fringe, but this is in a deportation had the a deportation heavy state. regularization makes a lot of sense. i deported george w. bush didn't do it. do it for amnesty and regularization is different because it doesn't have a path to citizenship unless you return to your home country. donald trump is going to deliver that at the defensive and made him especially judges. the recipe is the same.ip so it's updated 10 years later but it's the same recipe. >> host: hillary clinton be donald trump by $3 trillion. the margin in california was 4 million votes. you have been threatening -- every time i talk to you, threatening to leave this day. >> guest: we have. especially than the mrs. and i moved to virginia. we are out here for the winter and i will continue to teach there. i will retire when i'm done wita
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a limp and nbc. i will come back to california because a native californian and eco-warrior widespread. the deal. we are back from california. i may mention we have a panel in california. what is never talked about is the unfunded pension liability which is posing on $400 billion. we were in downtown los angeles between our panel and conversation with you today. the potholes are enormous. there is in bad shape. the infrastructure problem in california are a mess. one of the earthquakes could poke fun at the ones i lived through too ashamed. california is not ready for that. they've got a 13.1% income tax, the highest rates wage earner. if the tax reform -- think about this. right now it looks like treasury secretary mnuchin wants to get rid of the and local income tax. political suicide if you'reicid
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watching, secretary mnuchin. it will be a 13% tax hike for the middle-class in california. kevin mccarthy will get wipedbln out.ocrats w we've got 15 republicans from california. if they pass the tax reform, democrats will get the house in play. >> host: why did the democrats been so they can california? >> guest: my friend pete wilson will likely say this because i love the governor. imagine a fundraiser in 1978. 187, which was in 1990 proposition was the first to get stuff on illegal immigration proposition began a crackup of latino support to republicans in california. right now, the district attorney claims his mom is mexican. he is fluent in spanish. he is the highest-ranking latino
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republican party california can call their own. a seasoned he's their future. if we do not expand the republican party, we don't have the stamina stop this right now. there won't be one. who's the least worst democrat?r she lost of course to pamela harris i think would be president in four years. you're in the land of the blue. this is the blue while thehe republican lever >> host: is there serious talk? >> guest: now. i think when progressives get up saturday march, 3% or 4% of a play about that. california can't do it, even if there is a patsy do it and there isn't, it would be neither in the interest of the golden state to the americas to get divorced. what's more likely because the terms under which texas became a
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state, if they can break in the fight aids, they'll give us 10 more senators. >> host: hugh hewitt is our guest.go joe is calling in from pittsburgh. >> guest: joe, who dubbed the phone for you? >> caller: i want to ask about the republican party. christopher bassi, what do you think of him and his views? i recall you voted for obama is supposed to sarah palin on the ticket. >> host: what is your view before we hear from hugh hewitt question or >> guest: my view is i voted for mike pence is supposed to term. he's a lowlife and mrs. clinton was a lowlife. those are the lesser of two evils to me. >> host: let's hear from hugh
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hewitt. >> guest: christopher buckley is a very talented writer i may have been the only person that dirty rat command voted for donald trump and nbc headquarters. the country would be way over ol way over on the left of secretary clinton had become hillary clinton.ent. i think one would be the justice of the supreme court and we would advise the united states supreme court in original is on forever. justice breyer making our democracy work computer unit interviewed us for that. given my studious in a mostly regretted the redistricting conditions. if a majority of the supreme court ever doesn't redistricting, they will magically uphold every democrat redistricting is straight or never republican one. now i'm feeling good about it and went donald trump to thank
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for that. >> host: nancy, redondo beach in the l.a. area. hi,cy nancy. >> caller: hi, thank you. he said something about kind of it comes up with president trump. i am curious because he went into syria. he did what he did without getting any okay from anyone for a president obama tried to do it my opinion is the right thing and go to congress and get the approval and people that turnedi him down, president obama, giving president trump. what is your divine how it's okay for president trump to go in unilaterally. i'll hang up for my answer. >> guest: is a great question. thank you. president obama's foreign policy can be summed up in a few words. leading from behind, redline and commit jvs,, aleppo, crimea. it was a foreign policy opacity of the foreign policy of her
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trade, foreign policy of defeat and allies seek in the world. i define success abroad as the incremental expansion of liberty and literacy in a growing number of stable machines aligned with the part of the wife. donald trump's action againsthec ramallah then and is constitutional and their commander-in-chief authority. there is a war powers act which is unconstitutional and a great way to the opinions except action that president trump to vis-à-vis syria washo constitutional.ot president obama could've done it and chose not to do it. i criticize her publicans at the time for not giving him the authority to do it. but there answered response is a promise told a pinprick and that would've been worse than nothing at all. i'm not satisfied with that answer, but i believe history will report president obama's decision to raise the redline is a defining moment of his presidency and disaster for his
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legacy in the country. >> host: pb pipe to be thin, you should ask why he banned bob woodward from the nixon library and if that is not proof of the impulse for hypocrisy on the american right. >> guest: now, that's a great story. i was doing a tour of the nixon library in 1989 when it washe being built. two hours in the archives at "the l.a. times" reporter got the adjustment can anyone use this? i said rather lightheartedly.bob woodward that he is a that became a story. so i revoked that the next day.w i've since gotten to know bob woodward very well. i regret saying that years ago. the fact of the matter is i do not like the book the final days. i've always rejected the final days has been an accurate assessment of president nixon's final days in office. however, bob woodward has done extraordinary work on chronicling the last three presidents in real-time in a series of books.
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president nixon quickly overruled me. >> host: y do not like the final days? either way, this is the day he died.on >> guest: i was on the air live in pbs at big word when an ip or the green light came on as i said right before it, you got to do your delivery. and standing next to big bird and i said president nixon has died. an interview with papers straight ahead. that baby my low point in television history. it was a shock. i knew him like president nixon very, very well. i served him twice in new york and to build an elaborate 191989-made it 91. much underappreciated in a great lesson for donald trump as richard nixon was brought down by people who are too loyal to him. hyper partisan loyalists in nature presidency and big troube trouble. you want loyal people who are
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doing things in your name that you don't know about.ow richard nixon didn't know about the watergate break-in. he did know about the cover of denver that he had to resign. >> host: what about bannon? >> guest: i don't know steve bannon. i've talked to them once on the telephone asking him to do an interview with me. he declined at that time. i've heard so many different stories, but they make it a point not to opine on people until i was not then on the radio. i've said that many, many times on the air. i know some of the people who are good. totality is a smart guy. a lot of good writers there. i'm afraid it can be hyperbolic and inflate what not to beegimen inflated. my news regime in the morning because i'm on friends of 9:00 in the morning monday through friday. assert the times of london everything your times, p "washington post" and "washington journal."
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i'm fairly confident of the factual basis. not the spin, but the factual basis of the story being presented. >> host: do watch television? >> guest: not much. i do watch msnbc. i'm trying with craig melvin, i'm watching them all the time. they're all very good and i try and catch choctaws "meet the press" daily every night. i have other people on every network.ap i think john dickerson is a terrific journalists. the transition of sunday television to john dickerson, jay, chris wallace, has been hopeful for the country. for a very fine journalist which is typically how you define the news. just thought it was unusual fort me. i believe i was going on at 10:00 last night to do a 6:00 a.m. show that night.
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i got back to my room around 10:00. i slid my iphone over to jim carville who was sitting next to me who is sitting next to chat was sitting next to last or come to savanna and tom brokaw. the upshot was it dirty% to 75. james immediately knew that meant the end.ri i'm not on the non-i try to stay out of it. if testing to lose an election if you think you're going to a very hard thing when it's your friend. i just tried not to be fist pumping. some members of the crew were republicans. i was as stunned as anyone elsee in fact, if there was a concussion protocol for media the way various and nfl, that would be in it. w 1980 was a shock him in 194 wass a shock. 2010 is a shock, 2014 was a shock. this was an 8.0.
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>> host: amy ponce has written a new book called chatter about the hillary clinton campaign will be on the "washington journal" on sunday morning. you can watch that on c-span. this is booktv on c-span2, or talking with author hugh hewitt. up next is john in hoboken, new jersey. go ahead.. we are listening. >> caller: hi, i wanted to touch base about the republican's failure to review upon the care.un i think they are missing an opportunity. it's torn between total repeal without any replacement for really no change at all. but a while back, you remember a president named gerald ford and he proposed a national access policy in which the government a sickly take that back into the most severe portion of health care and thereby allows the extreme cost for the insurance company and have universal
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coverage. i don't know why they don't explore that. i think it's a good idea now. just do whatever they had in the bill didn't work did that come up with the schweikert amendment which establishes high risk ofd an author states the right tori reduce the number of mandatory minimum benefits and allows underwriting to help, which is not a good idea. people like in america guaranteed issuance within five to one, 71, 91, whatever it is. i would take the best of uponin the care which is that in people and their policies to the age of 26. no exclusion on pre-existing conditions and as much affordability as you can. combine it with as much stuff and move it forward. i like the bill because thatk- block grants medicaid to the states to be the first abolition of the major entitlement program to the state since the new deal.
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it was a unique opportunity to freedom caucus swung and missed on. was a giant mistake to have swung and missed. getting entitlement program down to the states for management. i mentioned peter i left california for virginia but 18 years prior to this i served on an orange county boy that did children zero to five healthci care and we spent the cigarette tax money on it. we knew better to do an orange county with the money than either sacramento or washington d.c. new what to do with the money. i believe medicaid block grants to the states to be a hugely important step for taking care of people with their basic advanced health care needs. the sooner they go back, the better off. i'm not sure about the ford't h rocard. but we can't have over having because we're in a death spiral right now. my friends at at at politicized state that is a falsehood. i disagree with them. their opinion is simply not rooted in the fact that obama carrots death spiral since the
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president declared as you like it then you could keep it and if you like your doctor you can keep it. it is not performed. it is not delivered. >> host: bill, billings, montana. good evening. >> caller: hi, the question i have for you has to do with republican economic policies. since the reagan administration, republicans have given massive tax cuts to the rich. i wonder at any point in the future will republicans ever do anything for the middle class? ask your think they've done a lot for the middle class. if you simply look at gross domestic product in the tiebreak and untrue reagan was president until today under the tax reform in 1986, it's been monumentally successful. reaganomics has driven in the united states come which has far exceeded anyone's expectations. if you want to argue three and 36 and 39.5, that's a much adult increase that bill clinton pushed through, barack obama got through.
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they simply have lower rates to benefit the lower middle class extremely well. in fact, if you look at who pays taxes in the united states, disproportionately, wildly so, those who make the most money in the top 1%. if you want to move forward in an equitable fashion towards a revamp overhaul of coming out to move to some kind of sales tax, sometimes the backpacks. but a much more broadly based fair tax system. so i disagree with your premise. that's not going to surprise you. generally, reaganomics has worked spectacularly well. >> host: so that, flat, where are you one of these taxes? >> guest: provided to the homeowners interest deduction in place.e that is the great benefit from it at the of wealth in america for people be able to buy and afford a home. my friends and stayed her
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husband doesn't cost as much as some states such as illinois, new york, california skop at the idea that it matters to people.d but in fact, the vast majority of people who use the introspection are middle class. it's a middle-class income tax reduction and we ought not toio take it away. rick santorum is actually the most eloquent on this. president trample realize if you removed the home mortgageed interest of action, you are crushing home-building. homebuilding crazed one job for every four jobs so republicans are not the service of friedrich hayek and appears to go after that deduction. >> host: frank is in des moines, iowa. hi, frank. >> caller: hey, hugh. explain to me invariably when a country builds a wall, history teaches us that they do so to keep their people in, not keep
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people out. if this is the case, this is mexico's national foreign policy against the u.s., why is it in their interest to build a wall? >> guest: well, i'm not sure what history shows us. they had east germany construct a wall to keep instruments from lean into the western is very successful in doing so. i saw governor brown on "meet the press" a few weeks ago say i that he looks at the wallet thinks it's intended to keep american i would submit to you that is preposterous. it was not about keeping people in. it's about border security in an era of extraordinary dangers. with the invisible sovereignty has already had the impact according to "the los angeles times" in march by producing non-permitted border crossings by 40%. it's already wildly successful if you change the government
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towards people entering illegally. pure across borders illegally and in this era, the reason israel builds a wall, the reason saudi arabia is building a wall, the reason the hungriest of intent being is because the w uninhabited movement of people is too dangerous for the residents of the country and to which they are going..>> hos we need for security. >> host: regular talk show host and author hugh hewitt is our guest.ral time s (202)748-8200 and eastern and central time zone.ic tim 748-8201 for those in the mountain and pacific time zones. if you'd like to call and make s comment, ask a question, et cetera. is there anyone who refuses to come on your radio show? >> guest: sometimes have trouble with elected democrats, but that is less so. david axelrod has become a regular cast in something of a
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friend. but they demonstrated democrats are better served by picking their spots in conservative media. so senator murphy of connecticu who it is a rising comer has been on my show. i hope senator harris will be on show. two minute channels nancy pelosi for the leadership we've been friends for 20 years. we spar. we spar, we started out. on the left from e.j. dionne. i don't have as much trouble getting liberals and left-wingers to come on the radio show. i don't shower. >> host: bernie sanders, who acclaimed comedy during the winter in the primary? just go bernie sanders came close because he knows what he believes in he believes and how say it repeatedly. but i think has it kaiser advice and there's no side effects. you might send the wrong message to your base if you're talking to the conservative side. secretary clinton, you mentioned amy parham.
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that's an amazing book. it's one of the most eye-opening books. they run the show last week's sa because it's such a riveting book is type the most dysfunctional campaign in modern political history which is the clinton camp came.n campai part of that dysfunction with a cocoon. take a series of falseshe wo positives. i know some people on team trump believes the president won the debates. i was that each of them.m. i don't believe he won a single debate. they got a false positive at the democratic national convention. so they got all these false positives and became more cautious as they went along. this book, shattered as how that caution can disable a presidential campaign from going out and asking people to vote for you in giving them a reason to do so on election day, which they did not do so when wisconsin and michigan.ia pennsylvania, ohio and iowa.
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they went to a nine-point trump win in 2016. that's my home state. it's astonishing to have an 11-point swing in four years. >> host: do enjoy both tours? >> guest: now, there's a great piece in "the l.a. times" book festival i don't do them very much. i'll make over c-span is because both tours are intensive. don't intensive. you don't or you aren't as bad to be at a radio every morning at 6:00 a.m. so if i am in california, got to be in the studio at 3:00 a.m., which means a two-way unlike you're used to doing. but tours are profoundly difficult for radio talkshowings host another most important thing is to show up and do the same thing day in and day out to people can rely on your beingher there. you just keep doing it so both tours are not my favorite thing. >> host: how is the fourth of doing? >> guest: well enough. we are bringing out in paperback
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in times of the fall we are going to retitle based upon a review that we've got. we've got a review by jim swift in the weekly standard. hugh hewitt little red book. i will put trump in the subtitle because it's not an anti-trumpbo up it is a pro-trump up it butut does the republican party haveir to do with president trying to make it work for both sides and they both have to get something out of the deal. >> host: bill is calling in from mchenry, illinois. h good afternoon to you. >> host: good afternoon. we've met with you as several conservative gatherings. i respect a lot of your ideas.s. i disagree with you at times that i also listened as you are taking over bill bennett's radio spot on the east coast there. i would like to ask you, when did news -- when did the 24 hour news cycle cost is to becomeoi entertainment rather than information?he i've gotten to a point where
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watch my c-span than any other cable news because i'm sick of the hype. i'm sick of the editorializing. it's very little information in marketing and your could you kind of comment on that? >> guest: very perceptive. the velocity of news hashe increased by 400% or 500% in the last five years so that when i began in the radio talk business in 1989 here in los angeles, we did one subject to an hour. you'd walk around collecting topics and carry clippings with you. now usually will do three or four segment -- three or four topics per segment over three hours. my desire and desire for research as their audience wants to know what is happening at any moment in the world. this is a post-9/11 thing. people are worried all day long but his shooting is occurring.
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le pen will come back and be the responsible conservative alternative. and so, the amount of volume of a connected world is really what's going on. as for the entertainment stuff, the lower third, break even has come a continual high speed of immediacy is only half true. but it is the highest rating the television cable mess has ever had. so what is going on right now is political junkies watch everything all the time. i want them to watch msnbc and nbc and c-span of course. but they are watching all thet l time and you can't really dial it back for fear they are going to flip over to see if somebody else has a breaking news control. it's endemic in the industry the amplification of the extremesix that no one because of twitter. right now i can guarantee you. i don't usually check my twitter feed for an hour after him on television because the people
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who get the steps that tweet oun staff stuff. but it never stops. it just never stops than not the world we live in and i'm not when it changed and you're not going to change it. posters you hewitt are there conservatives in hollywood and does it matter if they're not? >> guest: yes, there are. and the babe is the worst kept secret in hollywood and orange county and i lived in california i would go to many, but there are a lot of center-right entertainment industry of ce individuals. most of them are center-right in foreign policy and nationally security issues.po so you are not going to find a lot of traditional marriage advocates, but should find a lot of people who perform for the troops in great american heroes. he's going to be honored as such. he deserves the medal of freedom in every accolade that comes hic way. there's a lot of center-right people in hollywood and the
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entertainment industry behind the camera assaults in front of it. i traveled with john which is a vocal proponent and fan of president trump. they exist. they do worry that with college campuses to be too vocal to early in your career will close off in years. that's what they do. i don't have to worry about that. i was a young actor in hollywood, it would be my advice is to a young academic on ae college campus can i get your tenure a reputation before youre opinions because you will be punished. post what you think about the brouhaha between and culture in the super league? >> guest: berkeley should be >> gued of itself. claremont mckenna was worth with having donald and the worst was middle very. charles murray is an american intellectual 75 years old. nothing to do with race.
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talking about fishtown and pennsylvania. he was set upon, almost knocked to the ground. his liberal escort. i don't know what's happened that she can't have a healthy debate. it's never happened to me thank goodness. the universities will become very places that kills the college are going to get all of the vibrant intellect because colorado christian university are some of the smaller liberalt arts colleges that really embrace genuine intellectual diversity. they are going to prosper in the years ahead. middlebury will pay a price and i would not send my kid to berkeley.e why go there. >> host: joe in new york city.el you are on with author hugh hewitt. go ahead. >> host: good afternoon, gentlemen. welcome to u.s.a. cannot crowd
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alumnus. i would like to ask -- [inaudible]]enberg and do you think arenberg would support donald trump? >> guest: had one great conversation at his state are asked him for $10 million for the nixon library. i was 33 at the time. he said no, young man, not to be $10 million but i give you million dollars for the debut of building were $7 million. he was helping us raise money for the nixon library. it was a wonderful gentleman. i don't purport to know what other people think. he was a pretty loyal republican come extremely spirited.pp he would approve of a great deal sit down. he would appreciate donald trumps candor. walter annenberg lived a great deal. i was unaware, but i'm glad you are a grad and that his name is
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on the building. >> host: go ahead, mike. the democrat to the left in the last election. how do you pretend that thethe conservative cause and secondly on the issue of race comments brought up a lot. identity of these liberal answers especially.t how do you have an open discussion about race without discussing political correctness? >> guest: levitate them in the order you post them. cnn. it was not an employee of cnn. i work for a single media company, but i was a participant when wolf blitzer in my whitey,y
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house in error, the producer, they are extremely professional, very hard-working. there were no to be a check and then they took my point of view into account. i asked the question i wanted to ask whether his nuclear triad or taxes or religious liberty in the supreme court. they were very, very fair. most of the mainstream media works hard to be very, very fair. i also believe it to be the case if he were somehow able to conduct extradition of the votes amidst the media, 95% would've voted for hillary clinton in the last election. this is where you let dan rather wednesday. 95% of the people in mainstream media are democrat voting, they will be democrat thinking and they will not look to find out what the story is somewhat animated a center-right conservative voter. so they suffer not from a lack of work and i disagree with president trump rather vocally when he declared them to be the enemies of the
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that's a loaded term, but for him to do so. but they are biased collectively. not individually. i don't know anyone who gives a tougher interview than chuck todd and john dickerson, but you just have to look at media as a whole and realize that his centerleft to very last. what do we do about that? one thing cnn has had a number of conservatives.. other conservatives as well. that's good. that's important. try and find people at peter hoar object to down the it down the middle and surround them with opinion journalist on both sides. that's the best way to go. the issue for race in america, it's possible to talk about it without political correctness interfering with the conversation. it is such a day with derek. i can with echo dyson in any number of occasions have been african-americans. it's possible to do so provided you begin from a position of and y
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i'm a christian joy of believe in equal dignity of every individual out there and you have to approach it that way. i've got a great number of friends in the african-american church in irvine, california, christ the redeemer church. i check in with my friends.on especially my democratic one to find out what i'm missing because there is a lot that anglo people can miss especially if they live in their bubbles. >> host: what do you think of the term fake news? s. fun going out be benign t judicial conference and they want to know my definition. fake news in my view is any media on any platform, the purveyor of which is objectively false in his or her mind at the time they communicated. so russia knows this fake news off in the purveyors know they are telling a lie. and so come if someone knows they are telling a lie, that is fake news. bias this is completely different. i know almost everyone on the op-ed page contributors at "the
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new york times" that kristof on the centerleft, they don't -- or david brooks in the middle. they don't write things objectively false. they write things like political fact that i was falsely seen obamacare is in a death spiral. they can disagree with me but it's not objectively false for me to say that. is my opinion based on facts and projections of what's happening in the bankruptcy system and the people uninsured. fakeness to be for someone to come on right now if i were to say to you, usc doesn't grant it. objectively i know that's not true. i was trying to communicate that to people. that would be fakeness went to cap and not turn the mixture with a minute to propaganda outlets like russian tv. >> host: next is mehran strongsville, ohio. you are on with author hugh hewitt. >> caller: yes, hi, hugh appeared on the long-time fan of yours. i really like these ideas in
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your book. to me, that kind of go hand in hand with another book by a good friend of yours i believe, matt clement back. his book about america somehow been left by the god of history and your love of america does come through. but it's a cautious optimism for trump's agenda. i agree with you there are things that he is going to be faced with that could spell thek yanks. i hope people like you keep writing these good folks so that he's learning. but i truly believe his goal iss to unite us as americans. and let's get over the distinctions based on whatever.
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so that he will bring us prosperity. as you have said, that will raise up the rest of the world. i know you love cleveland and i just love you. thank you so much. >> guest: thank you, mary. you are right. president trump wants that for america appears that a president obama. they just have different visions and i'm very hopeful that if people continue to call a hope president trump when they think he makes a mistake as i've done and to applaud them when they think he's done something great like neil gorsuch is that six of the most qualified appeals court in the united states and that was sold to me as he competed b with him for that position and acknowledge that he was the bes choice.
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if justice kennedy steps down, another just to step down and appoints another neil gorsuch, the champagne corks are out. he has 20 circuit court vacancies to fill. he's very slow. one of my critiques of trump is there is a slowest out of thee block ever in terms ofwi appointments. read the director of the u.s. fish and wildlife service has come ahead of the army corps of engineers is a property rights person. president trump is the monopolye slow. he's got to be willing to critique them in order to be taken seriously when you praiseo him. but for people to do both, not people who do exclusively one or the other. close to what is the significance of 100 days? >> guest: fdr did so much so fast in march. the period between the election of fdr over hoover was a period of a bank panic and a caveman with a huge majority and they passed -- you passed -- he threw everything against the wall.
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it turns out that bill clinton i think past 22 loss in his first 100 days. a very productive time but nobody remembers what they were. what matters more to me is gorsuch and mysterious statuesig are enormously significant. since our fears aren't above the town council at the mostid significant 100 days of any president since fdr, reagan did get his tax cut done after the 100 days. getting a supreme court justice confirmed in the way he was confirmed by showing the value of intelligence and temperament that is so huge as the country people about that forever. >> host: kenneth treats and reaganomics were as good as hugh hewitt claims. reagan just about tripled the depth of 994 billion to y 2.94 trillion in eight years. >> guest: did that today is $20 trillion. president obama doubled the national debt from 10 trillion
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to 20 trillion. ellis faxed to taken on his word. i'm sure he's a well-meaning person. to take the debt from 900 billion to 2.1 trillion whatever he said his big. we are doing on are doing than ever here now because the president obama nomex. both necessary to arrest the decline in motion a necessary to jumpstart the economy to bring down taxes and did the two higher deficit, whereas the fighting and beating the soviet union at the defense buildup which was necessary. we deployed the cruise and put the ohio submarines to see. ronald reagan spent the money well and there was a deficit. there was a dead, but nothing like this in the last eight years. it's a matter of scale. ronald reagan left behind a debt of $2 trillion. president obama left behind $20 trillion. $10 trillion more.
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that's five times a the president reagan left behind. it's an astonishing amount of debt which is why we have too tackle entitlements. post for a few minutes left. mark is calling and from seattle. good evening, mark. >> caller: yes, thank you are writing "the fourth way." i consider myself a progressive democrat in seattle, but i do appreciate your book. i was wondering if you could tell me in your experience dealing with friends who ares democrats, and is it unfortunately deemphasize by democrats like myself who kind of look towards things in a mark on me teary in the way and perhaps the average republican who looks also at the issues around being an individual. is it our blind spot as democrat
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is seeing things in terms of people thinking alike. does that make it harder for us to can't have way with problem republicans in solving problems? it was very disappointing for me to lenders and debt on facebook about three times as many democrats tended to find friend acquaintances affairs over the issue of the election and thenoi republicans. that is sort of an indication of an intolerance unfortunately on our part.yo thanks very much. >> guest: well, that's perceptive. it works both ways are there is a lot of intolerant republicans and intolerant democrats helps to have grown up in ohio. tom brokaw has made this argument before that if you are from the midwest, you cannot be
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as polarized on politics than if you're from one of the coastal elites. seattle, washington is liberal, los angeles liberal.lo new york city's liberal. you're going to hear annew eco-chamber arising grievance. but that also occurs in texas. also occurs in some deep red precincts of other parts of the country. and it's not healthy and i just don't try to attribute a i can't tell anyone giving patterns to charity. i know statistically republicans tends to write more checks to private charities than did democrats.ks to i but i don't know the individual's generosity by virtue of general patterns. i don't think we can attribute to that. bush is very useful not to defend anyone over politics. life is way too short for that. >> host: hugh hewitt, what is your analysis of the congressional race in georgia? press 140%.
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a couple more. guess who i believe her name is karen she will win easily. john ossoff had a chance. two weeks out guitar publicans we are going to win with john ossoff. i'm on the air in atlanta at 9:20 every morning from 6:00 to 9:00. i don't vote for your vote for her. wake up and so they came out in time. mr. ossoff won a preliminary. if they want to telegraph their punches every time, that is fine by me, but that he will be held in another bunch of psyche of this for this reason. in kansas, they talked about how she didn't so much better, democrat did so much better than the republicans and it was a source of great joy for them. in fact an 80,000 democrats voted in november of this year. only 55,000 democrats showed up in the special election.
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there is a palpable decline of passion among democrats. i was in washington for the women's march. it was a big deal. the fall of west 125,000 people was palpable. i know they have the science march today. they've got to get over this constant hyping of activism or they are going to run their people out. it is a long time until 2018. they had to 18. they had to lay back, raise the money from her cruise a good candidate than i could ever aspire not been disappointed along the way. >> host: have you had any luck getting top administration officials are president trump on your program? >> guest: waiting for president trump here becauseive secretary carson, administrator pruitt. sean space there, so they. t they are showing up at the thing out what their media fruitiness.
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read 15 great conversations over the last year and a half. i can sometimes be kryptonite tn him.m. but he's the best interview in america still. people listen to them because you never quite know what you'r going to get. >> host: hugh hewitt has been our guest. here is his most recent book on his little red book as he calls it. "the fourth way: the conservative playbook for a lasting gop majority" the new paperback is going to be called hugh hewitt's little red book. >> guest: >> host: thank you as always. the tv will be back live tomorrow with david horowitz here to take your calls as for chris hayes msnbc. several others. thoughts about their panels can find the full schedule of booktv .org reboot wrap up our coverage from l.a. today.
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>> 's i don't think it's wrong to expect members of the house are based on a further party to try to win the majority. same thing with democrats. that is part of the reality of politics. not my favorite part of politics, but it is part of politics. what i find offensive is the linkage between raising money and assignment to committee. raising money and a chairmanship you raising money in the union leadership. i think there has to be a merit based system in place to decide who gets on what committee. if you've been for 30 years and you shut the congress coming up in coming up and expertise in that expertise is needed on the energy and commerce committee for another committee. it is not whether you can pay more money than the doctor. i should be the determining factor whether you make this committee or not.
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>> the elite grammars, people like madison, hamilton, washington were a little bit of gas is so much democracy has led to these early flaws in paper money lost in the mid-1790s than they wanted to move in the direction of a government that would be more constrained, more independent of popular opinion and actually could shed down these populous forces in the states. so not a sin, for example, wanted to give the federal government absolute veto of any luck passed by state that turned out to be so extreme for the convention. they did right or provision article i section 10 which bars states from adopting paper money laws, bars states from debtor relief was then the idea was the national government with phone terms in office or mystic seer senators, for your president. there is nothing analogous to that in state constitutions.
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indirect elections. legislators fix matters. the electoral college that the president. enormous constituencies. the original houses 65 members. the lower house of the massachusetts legislature had over 350 delegates. the u.s. congress had 65. they thought the larger the constituency of the more right to you at the leg the week from a well-educated relatively affluent members of the community and the larger the constituency, the more independent they would be for constituent influence. in a sense they were profoundly antidemocratic. they wanted to move before the democratic state constitutions in the direction of more illegal because they thought you could trust the average person in government. they thought they would reduce server property. that is why hamilton as a convention favored a lifetime tenured senate and a lifetime tenured president. that was extreme at the


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