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have patients crying out for help with the struggle against the knife this rating for surgeons people think the discovery of ether ushered into the modern day surgery but i argue surgeons still don't understand that we are willing to go under the knife and deeper than they did before and as a result they are slow-moving executions with infection rises sky high and it is a much more unsafe. but what is incredible when he performs the first operation under ether in london joseph lister was in the audience witnessing this monumental moment and he assures surgery into the modern era by applying germ theory to medical practice.
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[inaudible conversations] good afternoon welcome to the 2018 convention. [applause] libertarian party candidate today i have a great honor to introduce who has come from austin or listen to us on sundays over the last 15 years
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and the managing director and is here to talk about his book fool's errand so let's give a warm pennsylvania welcome. [applause] >> please -- thank you for coming and i appreciate you for that warm welcome. but the term blowback it has
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it is another cinema one -- synonym for negative consequences that is a little more precise from the cia in 1950 against iran and to be defined in the paperwork that was the consequence of strict foreign policy over the long-term to come back on the american people they don't understand the context to have a way to explain what is really going on and a way that is susceptible to false conclusions of what is happening like when the revolution came 1879 there wasn't a clear part of the narrative to overthrow the
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dictator that america had installed in power after overthrowing the elected government that doesn't mean everything they did was great or the ayatollah was great but the context that why are there these riots and hostages and anti- american revolution? just because they hate us. but it is the same thing we face without qaeda with the terror war. so i remember parts of september 12 and 13 some tv news guy said they have a weekend the sleeping giant perfect that is blowback. the japanese awakened the sleeping giant in 1841 it hasn't taken a nap since american activity in the world and intervention that caused
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the terrorism problem in the first place so now they had a brand-new excuse for further action. now another part of the false narrative that conclusion from september 11 because it was blowback they didn't have the context to understand the consequence of the foreign policy that was secret being carried out that they are trying to scare us away and getting us to retreat but there was more to it than that the september 11 attack was designed to provoke america to overreact because there was zero chance they would bring home the troops they would find new places to send them and that is what al qaeda was betting on.
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in the 1990s the joint staff at the pentagon prepare a real policy and in the 1990s a small price to pay to be a superpower. not that it is moral but you can understand what they meant of a truck bomb goes off at an embassy in africa somewhere or there is an attempt to knock down the world trade center so what do you do? do you give up your empire? it is a small price to pay from that point view bed then of course if you succeed to take it down we are really only lucky there was only 3000
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it could have been 20 or 30,000 people people we are lucky they stood for an hour and a half but foreign policy are mysterious circumstances surrounding the event that was literally the equivalent of pearl harbor with the civilians even from the plane with that same footage and catastrophe that yet there was no imperial japan to fight it was a hail mary pass they were trying to steal our planes they did not even have a weapon in the core group leadership in afghanistan was only 400 men. there was no islam a fascist caliphate but a tiny little group of former veterans of america is backed afghan war in the 80s who basically got
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one good lucky strike against the united states after attempting in the 1990s with the smaller attacks they finally ceded to provoke united states into overreacting. you may be familiar -- familiar with a former cia analyst chief of the bin laden unit he is one who gave bill clinton ten chances to kill him that were declined for various reasons but he quit the cia just to tell the truth to the american people saying they are not being straight with you just to tell the american people they hate us for what we do not for who we are and not because of who they are. it is what we do to them our
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foreign policy, our government he was speaking as a collective we, therefore policy provoked this conflict and listed the situation and try to explain bin laden said it was never freedom or liberalism it always was america based in saudi arabia and try to enforce the permanent blockade and sanctions embargo against iraq. and the no-fly zone bombing and that count as a reason and american support for israel and the occupation of palestine and lebanon which was going on almost 20 years.
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american support for all the dictators and presidents across the region from saudi arabia and jordan or mubarak in egypt etc. and pressure on the regimes to keep oil prices artificially low to subsidize the american economy at the expense of the arab people to turn a blind eye during russia china and india persecution and also in use pakistan. osama bin laden would say they say they care about human rights but not when we are killed that is only partially true because if you look in the booklet and help to support the jihadists in bosnia and chechnya and kos of oh in 1999 and also help with
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the islamic fighting group in 2000 so after september 11 bill clinton himself into different democratic congressman went on the record to complain why don't they like us to know we did all this for them but yet fighting for them where mom and the ringleader of 911 are just rights -- earned his stripes there was no support for the occupation. but he had failed to try to prevent the rise but he failed in fact only built up their power at our expense.
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and so the broader agenda. osama bin laden remember back at the time they work so hard to deflate al qaeda and the taliban and mostly the story that the taliban had attacked us somehow. so the idea was first of all really just to make a target out of them but i just kept hearing from the egyptian surgeon that he had the engineering degree in the pilot of the plot were all friends studying engineering they were grad students so these were not taliban cavemen they knew exactly what they were doing and why. what they were counting on again was an overreaction so
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of course bin laden said himself our plan is to bleed you to bankruptcy just as we did to the russians that is a little after-the-fact but one is a terrorist right now but this is not giving an interview to "rolling stone" magazine they published in 2010 where bin laden said my father's dream was to bring the americans to afghanistan he would do the same thing he did to the russians, with america's help. i was surprised the americans took the bait i respected the mentality of president clinton he was the one who was smart when my father attacked he sent a few kurdish missiles to my father's training camp eating get them but even now they still don't have my father they spent hundreds of billions better for america to
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keep the money for its economy but in clinton's time america was very smart not like bull running after the red scarf. i was in afghanistan when bush was elected my father was so happy this was the kind of president he needs one that will attack and spend money and break the country. i'm sure my father wanted senator john mccain more than obama in the 2008 election because mccain has that same mentality. if anybody is educated you know this is extremely naïve on clinton and obama of course but the point remains the same that he wasn't afraid he saw a guy who was dying to take advantage of a crisis that is exactly what happened. which then brings us to the
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invasion which should have to happen again there is no imperial japan it was a group of 400 men they were not the taliban of the religious leadership of american pakistan to take over in the 1990s and even not most of them it was a small group of men from saudi arabia and egypt who were exiled to afghanistan and had organized the attack they are to the degree but mostly it was organized in the united states and germany and spain and malaysia you don't need a safe haven to make a phone call. there is an argument inside the bush administration how to exploit the situation and how badly to conflate the two different groups together but they were determined to go to war when they could have
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negotiated. the taliban and did offer to negotiate to turn over bin laden which is very difficult under their honor code system like a japanese type not to that agree of severity but they were still willing to negotiate but first to any muslim country which could have been saudi or jordan or egypt or malaysia or any sock puppet government that would have turned him over to the united states immediately and bush said i said no negotiations. hand him over and then they said that they demanded evidence but then second they said we will turn him over to any third country i'm sorry
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then it was pakistan and the pakistanis ruined that but they ruined that one. then they said any third country in the world it could have been canada or mexico or great britain or israel. maybe not. [laughter] we don't negotiate with terrorists et cetera than early october the bomb started to fall then they made one last offer. we will turn him over to any third country and drop the demand for evidence and bush said too little too late. so even if you say bring them to america around them up no
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way we are to angry you've got to pay even if that is your opinion if you look at the history of america support of the 2001 in afghanistan it was against the taliban and not al qaeda actually the second in command orders was to wage war against the taliban with al qaeda as a secondary target if available. so they spent the whole first eight weeks in northern afghanistan going to war going up against the enemies and had nothing to do with retribution from the man behind september 11 my one -- meanwhile bin laden was making his escape to the kandahar province so in the second week of december the cia and delta
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force cornered osama bin laden and the last three or 400 at a place called tora bora and it is true that they unleashed airpower b-52s and f-16s and even rolled the daisy cutter bomb out of the back of a c-130 and did blow a lot of cia --dash two bits and said if you want body count bring toothpicks but yet for three weeks straight the cia and delta force were begging for ground reinforcement general madness at 4000 marines 100 miles away. the army rangers all took control of the airbase and were sitting there within a couple hour helicopter rides of tora bora and the green
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berets where there were they were fighting against the taliban forces and all they had to do was send help they bagged and bagged and if you go to the record you will see the cia men themselves particularly gary bernsen is quotable who said they just could not understand the refusal to send in the marines or the rangers or the green berets to come help it was as easy as sealing off 5 miles worth of border and that was the red herring we are supposed to steal the whole border? no. just right there where they were the guys we are trying to catch. although there is speculation that i made a concrete case they deliberately made the plan to let these men go it was better to have a permanent enemy to demonize because after all what is the case to
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go after osama bin laden if he is already dead? they needed that enemy so they let him go. then they wage the war against the taliban which they did not have to do. and he lived there through 2001 and we did the carpet bomb anyway but we still didn't have to create a new government and install it in power and even if you think for whatever reason you come up with we didn't need to go make enemies out of all of their enemies. >> this is -- that entire thing
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began when some one convince the army to attack his business competition until the patriarch of the valley and take out some of the timber industry. it is simply politics had nothing to do with the taliban al qaeda. that were raged on for years. the worst case is -- of leave heard of the network. his family and not founded it. it was one of the cia guys in the 80s against the were with
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the soviet union's. after the war live have been a live with taliban but it was not one of them. after the war he thought everything would be cool. americans with pkc didn't like it and convince the americans to attack him and embalm him over and over again. he tried to make peace over and over again. year two later he spent sent his brother to go and they accepted him and said will make a militia but the military betrayed and tortured his brother. and only then did they become an enemy of the united states of america. since then the group has been second only to the afghan taliban. casualties inflicted on americans and the afghan people. another case of an enemy we
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didn't have after the war began. it took a couple of years. pacific probably most people don't know but the taliban completely surrender. they did not file this would be the mother of all battles and say we'll fight. [inaudible] he had credibility in the taliban recognize the new government as islamic and legitimate and said don't attack us and will retire from politics. some wanted to participate but not as the taliban and just retired. it took about two and a half years before the american escalations were able to even provoke the taliban into fighting and organize resistance against us. once they decided to the game
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was over and americans loss. they picked an unnecessary fight and when they cannot win. and the reason why, there's a few there's the smell this is ethnic groups of afghanistan. the light blue, these this is kandahar at home there completely dominated by the tribesmen but that's an agricultural area. the whole east and south of the country. those tribes are 40%, the single biggest ethnic group. america's message to boil it down all the ways to install a government to be the overloads of these postings. as i said, -- was past him and
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from condo car but that never amounted to representation for the people, adjustment they were closer to home to torture and abuse in every way imaginable. on top of the this is a warrior culture they have been invading armies in and out of their. not unlike texans who only have vielma on couple of others to cling onto, these people identify themselves. their identity and culture is based around their long and ancient proud tradition of existing foreign invasions. that is who they are. defenders from invasions. at the very core.
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so it's not working and hasn't worked as a going to work. so here's another thing. afghanistan is landlocked. south-central asia but there's about 400 miles of pakistan between them and the sea. to get to afghanistan by land from the indian ocean they have to drive through pakistan and into afghanistan. he credibly logo expensive. for country the size of texas which if you've ever driven across texas was hot becomes a cliché. you can see why it was its own country for a while. they also have deserts like california mounts like colorado.
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as for bidding train in many ways. >> these are more things that make this mission incredibly difficult for the americans to be able to have their way there. the problem is to the east, the eastern borders called the durand line there was an trying to divide the tribes from themselves back in the 19th century. actually has worked to a degree and keeping factions apart and yet it also goes to show that there's this incredible kinship with this country next door and much like in the vietnam war when they had safe havens the
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afghan taliban has long had safe haven in pakistan especially in southern afghanistan. so you might wonder they are friends when they go back to the stone age of the didn't cooperate with us we help her back in the 80s and yet the americans have been putting infections and power in the capital city no close to india that is pakistan's border an enemy to the east on their
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consulate over the region of kashmir. in the event of a nuclear war between pakistan and india the pakistanis consider afghanistan their strategic death where they can retreat and try to live to fight another day. this means that it's absolutely their highest priority of their national security state. it is therefore unacceptable to them that parties loyal to india would have a real monopoly. they have an incredible and irretrievable keep in the afghan taliban at play. they continue to do so now when barack obama came into power you remember the generals and
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republicans in the media steamrolled him into this afghan escalation. he could've look like a real hero but instead he gave into what he knew was wrong. and escalated the war. up to 140,000 troops and they accomplish nothing. in fact their first test case was a little town in which they live and pretended it was a giant city of 80000 people in a tiny little agricultural district. and the numbers were two marines for every civilian because somebody had fled. they were unable to take. the taliban rolled this at night and that was it. they never want a single thing.
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they called it a bleeding ulcer and said forget it. they abandon counterinsurgency. they came in and took over the war they didn't even try it. the search amounted to an escalation of force but no new real change in strategy. they're going to beat up on the taliban bad enough they're going to come to the table and then do what we say and then we could go. then july 2011 came and went and the taliban said forget you and kept fighting. eventually they play pulled the vast majority of the troops out. a lot of times they get -- the whole time anyway. as soon as they left the taliban took over other than provincial
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capitalism. the argument is that we still have to say because it's a safe haven and somehow you have to say forever because if you ever leave something back it happen. bad things happen all the time. but if we leave that things will happen because we love. that's what all the politicians have concluded. and so they pretend afghanistan is -- it's no man's land.
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it provides no special access to the united states whatsoever. in fact the taliban having tremendous interest in preventing international terrorists from ever getting them into the mess that al qaeda got them into previously leading to this war. there for years and years of swore that if we want to negotiate with them they will swear up from but never allow international terrorist groups to be based out of afghanistan again. the taliban now are back and forth they have about 60% of it at night that's according to its own records. so get to trump in just a second. up until this point we spent $2 trillion on reconstruction spent more than on the entire plant and they built a couple of schools that nobody goes to.
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and how little they have accomplished. the have provoked new terrorist attacks against the united states with the war in afghanistan. the orlando shooter cited the war in afghanistan. the boston bombers cited the war in afghanistan. the guy on the train in germany were killed in the airstrike the day before. there seven or eight attacks on the united states that are these lone wolf attacks. of course the big one with fort hood who massacred 13 men who are about to deploy through afghanistan. he was going to go with them. so were paying the price. yet the more we fight them over there the more at risk were
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bringing in the people. so now donald trump spent years criticizing barack obama for criticizing the afghan war. i think it was just politics as he hated obama and he said in to run for president one day. i think you are believed that he was getting work done but here's the thing. but he was right it was a disaster. it was horrible. so he talked himself into it, is pretty easy. so much so that when obama said were joined the numbers down of the generals tried to resist, trump tweeted that president obama's right the generals are wrong and they should shut up. and he sided with his sworn enemy. against the generals. when he came into office he had steve bannon with him and he was horrible on a lot of things especially iran but he was good
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on afghanistan. his plan was to hire mercenaries but the real point was we had no business fighting the war and he was telling trump, you're right. so, when donald trump came into power one of the first things he did was testify at john mccain's armed service committee on tv, we need 3000 more troops at least. i believe that trump resented that. and he felt like barack obama did that there are trying to roll him into this. they were get a make him. i know some great pentagon reporters and the word was they would have their proposals with the new escalation by march of last year. but trump told them no. go back to it again. and they thought about it and it
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really was a fight inside the administration. they talk about it a little bit in the book the kick the can down the road till august were trump gave in and ordered the escalation. 4000 new troops and mcmaster strategy which is to just keep fighting. they said pressure the pakistanis when we know we tried it and it into good. just keep fighting because now on like david petronius who screwed up mcmaster told trump give it four years. have a for your plan and maybe at the end of another four years of fighting will be in a position to negotiate to do what we want. in the book fire and fury, there's a quit quote from dino s the deputy national security adviser.
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she says what's going on and trump refers it to his speech in august that if we withdraw the troops the net means trump lost a war and trump can't lose a war. that's what they told him and he bought that. it we all know he's donald trump, he could've got up there and said this is all bush and obama's fault. the tribesmen were never enemy another non- again. he could've done that. called them some nicknames in the war. and have a parade. [laughter] soon i will talk about the importance of board to the libertarian movement and the libertarian party itself.
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mr. libertarian said in his essay, were piece of the state that he's convinced wars the key to this whole business. he meant government and the libertarian movement. what are we doing here. and a great part of the libertarian party and libertarian party and legacy was these were the right-wingers who oppose vietnam. they were the young americans for freedom. it was a big part of it about vietnam. he didn't care he was trying to end the war. that was the most important thing. if your regular american, we all know so little about what's going on in the world. this is the new world. were others are descendents of people who left for therefrom to
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come here so they could with live free and the the troubles of the old world behind. we don't have a man set of focusing what's going on except for the fact that america is the preeminent power in eurasia. the middle part of north america dominates sealed world they make in our business. america is the world empire. the soviet union is gone. we have that dominance for now. so even though we don't focus on so much the libertarian domestic agenda is hard money, free markets, decentralization, legalized relationships, business, personal, and everything else.
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and hard money. we can't have that with the world empire. you can have a limited constitutional empire and look, it's been 16 years look what shambles our bill of rights is in. looks what happened with the all-powerful commander-in-chief and an end of this huge fourth amendment. in the '90s when they said know your customers the entire american right was up in arms led by the wall street journal. that's nothing. no we passed to patriot act since then and the presidents have wha written executive ordes too. we are losing our freedom that they hated so much.
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this was part of the strategy, he knew that we love that we were free. he said i really give you what to make you give yourselves the choking life. your government will clampdown on your freedom so much that finally you're going to tell your government this is the cost of occupying the middle east, we won out. that was part of the strategy in the first place. our government has fallen for and taken us with them. they discredited little d democracy, self-government they discredited free-market capitalism now the republicans and democrats baker cronies and have taken our agenda of individual liberty for the future of mankind and dragged it through the mud in the name of this umpire and what was america, not the homeland.
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then harry brown new better. here's a libertarian party president candidate 962,000. i asked him what he would do he said i would've gotten the troops out of saudi arabia so it would've happened on my watch. i would show the american people don't be afraid. everything's fine. really get these guys and then were trespassing, word trying to protect you from the soviets but that's ten years gone. you bring our troops home and play cool. send a few mercenaries to call kill a few terrorists. then he would have given the statue of liberty speech every day evangelizing liberty.
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your bill of rights is in a schedule of us. your present prison populations way too big. but he would make sure america's practicing what was preaching set of dragging our belief system through the mud. he would made the greatest example. that was the opportunity george bush had and ruined and exploited. so i have one minute. the libertarian party, they could've been the greatest leaders of the peace movement in the george bush years. just like the republicans and corey, whatever his name was was compromising on everything. refusing to take it radical antiwar position. the been great heroes who have opposed the war but the national
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libertarian party has fallen short on it should be there single highest agenda. you cannot have freedom in a world empire at the same time. they could win into much better with that message. what is make that the highest priority. [applause] [applause] >> a look at the best-selling nonfiction books according to amazon. a clinical psychologist jordan peterson, 12 rolls for life. the mark manson's advice on leading a happier life. followed by, i've been thinking. inspirational quotes, prayers, reflections from various schreiber.
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then, the late true crime journalists michelle mcnamara's first account of the golden state killer responsible for dozen mergers and 50 sexual assaults in california during the 70s and 80s. look at some of the best-selling books considered continues with the best dietary advice followed by educated, the first introduction to formal education at the age of 17. then steven pinker explores the thought processes behind extremism by making the case of the countries in better shape than you might think. next daily show host for a crime, and wrapping up our look at some of the nonfiction
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bestseller list is dale carnegie's book, how to win friends and influence people. many authors have appeared on book tv. you can wash them on our website. >> rule number one on this conspiracy that is under mining your aspiration. and i need to be clear as this is primarily an audience of color my son said the same thing to a mainstream audience. your problem today is not that your black or white, your part of the invisible class. you're invisible to power and wealth. you don't feel like your vote counts. that's why 100 million people didn't vote. there's a prominent guy in the media right now but he didn't vote.
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and he's proud he didn't vote. i have a problem with that. that creates an environment where people begin elected office the don't represent your interest or maybe even public interest but we endorse that by not voting. when you feel invisible you don't show up in your life. that means the bad guys win. so i want to make clear that there is a bogeyman in your life. it's not just your life, sadie% of everybody in america. 70% of all americans are living paycheck to paycheck. you're living in new york city making 70000 a year struggling to make ends tonight. if you live in georgia making 50000 a year or 40000 a year which is middle-class, struggling to get things met.
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can i get an amen. >> amen. you're living in a white role community make and 25000 you're struggling to make ends meet. there's a third of all americans who have to sell their cars to raise $3000. 65000 americans 65% of americans don't have $500. that's not a racial thing, that's a human thing. there's something going on in the world. 1% of the worlds population owns half of the wealth of the world. i'm in a repeat that. these are not just rich caucasians there's some rich
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africans, these are just rich people. >> you can watch this and other programs online a book to be.o >> c-span is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. >> next on book tvs afterwards, economics professor brian kaplan argues that the main faction of
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higher education has become more about educational credentials unless about ensuring that students are prepared with skills for the job market. is interviewed by the chronicle of education scott carlson. it's a weekly interview program with guest hosts interviewing authors about their latest work. >> brian, thanks for joining me. >> guest: thanks for having me. >> host: you written this book about why education is a waste of time and money. why did you want to read a book like this? >> i've been in the education system for 40 years. i've seen an enormous amount of waste of taxpayer money being wasted. if i don't read book like and who will? >> host: did you have an experience and education that what made you want to write this. >> think it began in kindergarten, when their


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