[inaudible conversations] good evening and welcome to the strand art department. i am nancy, the owner of the

strand bookstore. for a little bit of history, we were founded by my grandfather, benjamin, in 1927 just a block over in an area that was known as the crow that ran along fourth avenue and stands from astor place to union square and it had always 48 bookstores. in the 90 years since then, all but one of them shuddered leaving it to be passed down to my father who recently died and now on to me always to be kept for the family. tonight we are super excited to be hosting stacey abrams, one of the most dynamic leaders in the country having played -- [applause] [cheering] having played a key role in the georgia state legislature she is

making history as the first african-american woman to run for governor in the state of georgia. my husband coming u.s. senator ron wyden says this will be the first of the most important in 2018. as stacy has been a leader in improving women's health care, medicaid, tax fairness and other issues that are our priority is. in addition, specie is an accomplished writer having authored numerous articles on public policy and nonprofit organizations. in a secret life, stacy has written several award-winning romance and novels under her pen name selena montgomerie. [laughter] joining her in conversation tonight is author and tv podcast

host ashley, who hosts the brooklyn news and cultural show 112 bk. she has written and has guest edited for places like l. magazine, teen vogue and new york magazine and was named one of the forbes magazine 30 under 30 in the media. please join me in welcoming stacey and ashley to the strand. [applause] >> thank you so much for being here. thank you to the strand and for reaching out. this is so much fun for me i got to interview steve c. for a

newsletter. i wish that i lived in georgia. [laughter] to be perfectly honest. now that i have been there, i've got to tell you, still interested. [laughter] i will come through. >> after reading this book, one of the things that was extremely evident about you is that your life has been about sort of pushing boundaries and also about making space for yourself iyour selfin places where othert necessarily made space for you, but alternately, the number one thing i would say is that you are always looking for ways to be useful and helpful to other people. so, i have to ask why politics?

>> im southern so i have to say thank you to nancy and to the team for hosting me and also the people that helped make my book come to life. they agreed to represent me and publish me. i grew up in a family that was working for. my mom is one of seven kids. she's been only one of her seven siblings to finish high school, the only wanted to college or go to graduate school. my dad is one of five, the first man in his family to go to college. they did everything you are told to do academically for success and found themselves moving out of poverty into working poverty. my parents had every reason to be bitter and angry that racism

and sexism still haunted their lives. instead, they were very down to earth and committed to making sure that the six of us really grew up believing that our potential was endless. go to church, go to school, take care of each other. faith was important because they wanted us to understand that economic poverty didn't create moral poverty. and they wanted us to leverage the moral framework to understand the world around us. you don't use your faith to justify bigotry and hatred. you are supposed to protect others with what you believe. they told us to go to school because even though they haven't got enough as far as they hoped,

they had gotten further than anyone and their families. it's like you do know that we are poor, right? delights might be cut off and without water but my cousins could still wake us up and we would go volunteer at soup kitchens and homeless shelters. these two amazing people with their six children were trying to drain the ocean and i didn't know how it would ever have be been. it tackles poverty and addresses the needs and the government. that is how they organize themselves so that we would work together to make life better for

others. the problem being sometimes the government wasn't doing what it was supposed to. so i decided i wanted to meet it and threw very early on realized that my posture for service wasn't going to be what my parents did. the more i di did it the more i realized i could get other people to come along with me to get things done. so this is what i do. this is as a manual for people who live in are pushed out of sight of the margins of the mainstream society and who would like to be helpful in bringing

those prospective prophecies. these people have good ideas you can come froandcan come from ant makes you an outsider? >> when we think about power typically as it is a single whe straight man, but the reality is one that is the notion of power, everything else is bolted to try to reflect that. if you lived during the 80s and even women were designed to reflect the notion of what power should look like. ...

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so we are not presumed to be that as the outsiders. >> i like that description but talk about the power and the powerful and you mentioned growing up poor and black. so what is it do using specifically? i don't know if you know that stacy wrote this amazing commentary about being in debt and how that should not not knock her out of the petition so i read that and felt i could be reading about myself because i know what it is like. and not in the same position i

don't know what all of you are doing. that makes me want to ask you that you have more poverty in this country? >> i was thinking about this earlier today. you are wealthy and you see that as innovation if you remember during the 2012 election of mitt romney that is created by the creation of wealth you are not in business to create jobs but to create money the best way to have some sense of doing something noble for society to see

orwell and intends to triple and to make better wages and to justify because i don't have any but one of the ways in those to strip your space and then to begin without horatio alger. so we make the notion that you come from nothing and become great.

>> it is easier to manage people and control a society when everyone believes because if you thank you should have access then you start demanding it. and then to demand all these other things to create that moral justification to be trapped by debt and poverty is a great way to manage power and keep it to yourself. >> that made me kind of mad. [laughter] but it is also infuriating. talk about georgia specifically what is unique that you decide it isn't just

the place you want to make your home but you want to serve? >> my dad was a shipyard worker and my mom worked because then they decide to become ministers. when i was 15 they were both admitted to emory university so we moved from mississippi to atlanta that i met my first friend in high school. then we got to know atlanta and what i loved about atlanta when we moved here first of all that is a big deal when you are 15. in the two largest cities in the state.

they were everywhere and it was amazing that was transformative and number two i watch a lot of television we had abc if you did not have cable it was abc and pbs. my parents could not afford cable then i realize there is the regionals for nothing and then fox? [laughter] that is why i loved it when i got there. when i graduated from high school i went to spelman college that was transformative i loved austin but i was in texas the year george bush decided but then they went to yale and i love that world i do not like being cold and i grew up on the beach. yale is in connecticut and it

is that cold all the time. so when i thought about to be a tax attorney i really wanted to be mayor of atlanta. and through the right leadership to tackle poverty at its core and for me to go back to atlanta. and that scale of what we need to change if you want to address issues of poverty and equality to deal with a high incarceration rate to address the lack of access to healthcare or have people prosper and thrive and because

george has a powerful governor. but when georgia does something transformative it will reverberate. and it is only in georgia that we should shape the future i want to see. [applause] >> i am wondering as someone who has dedicated her life to service who do you think? >> my family is first.

five extraordinary brothers and sisters. i have an older sister who is so thoughtful and my other sister is a federal judge in georgia. she is a real lawyer i play one on tv. [laughter] but she has a moral compass that is unshakable. and my responsibility and my job was to send a text a while back about his daughter was up at the crack of dawn and she does not stop talking, good for you. it is called karma. [laughter] so anyway yes, and he has had

challenges walter is a brilliant man suffering from drug addiction and mental illness and still struggling to put his life together but then recently with these from prison again. he can't come to georgia for obvious reasons because he is on parole but how can i help? i wasn't trying to be terse but he responded to say i will not disappoint you again. and to reenter society and then how can he help me?

and committed to it has to be done and then to be sleek and funny to take the world seriously but not herself. but they are not threatened at all. and then my parents. but they are good and moral and kind they know that is not a contradiction to understand we could be our whole selves. >> if you are excited i am more excited and it is

interesting that you bring out former incarceration that my father was imprisoned 30 years and i have a relationship with my dad and there is a lot of workable parts to stay connected. so do you have incarceration? >> absolutely so in 2013 to have the fourth highest cursory should rate loan -- incarceration rates. one of the reasons is that in the 80s when california thought that was too many so

the republican governor of georgia the most extraordinary thing he has done making it a mission to reduce the incarceration rate because several of those commission with the juvenile justice reform you cannot get an occupational license so they teach you skills but then that reese just leads to recidivism. so pushing back against legislation. private prisons are wrong you cannot privatize justice. to create a profit motive for incarceration and it is not

sustainable. and that is georgia but the way they monitor because of the way they populated the state government there isn't enough to manage that rate that they need then to leverage the good but criminal justice reform is my top priority we incarcerate them because we are mad at them.

my parents didn't have health insurance because we believe the bipolar started when he was a teenager we didn't have the language and then he started to self medicate and for 20 years then that was a heroin addiction. health insurance could have saved my brother's life leading too many people in jail because they are sick and then we meaning they but i take it personally. someone serving in the legislature and then to remedy because it is my problem to solve it is our problem to solve. we have permitted this to exist we are not talking about

these issues. and with that society to be what it should be. [applause] we have seen interest when running for office like lily herman. that was way before 2015 but a concerted effort to get more women running in the race what

advice do you have for these women? you are not new to this you are true to this. >> anger is a good motivator but not a strategy to be angry means you are not angry anymore.

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i don't get to keep a dime and i raised a whole lot of money and all of that many is in service of the vision of what we can do together. of my ability to be effective. but we have to get past the personalization of fundraising so know what you believe and don't believe too much. ideologues are not effective in government ted cruz and

someone on my side of the aisle that when the ideology prevents you from having a working relationship with people who do not share it you cease to be as effective as you can be in for those communities it is a luxury to be that rigid that we cannot afford because the people will do what we wanted they would have done it before. getting some heat from my opponent in the primary she has castigated me to say you compromised your principles. my principles are taking care of people that we have to do what we can to because you are ready to win.

ideology doesn't feed anybody it doesn't save a community or from mass incarceration. it with the ability to work with everyone to get things done. there are hard lines i will not cross. no compromise available on reproductive choice, no compromise available but for a lot of places a ways to have different conversations when you are ideologically driven that is the only metric that you use you miss multiple opportunities. >> one of the things i keep thinking of this political season to think over and over this is just so reasonable. [laughter] it is reasonable.

and for me and for a lot of people that is a breath of fresh air that this is what we know and what we are doing and our thoughts on that. that is amazing. so how do we get more of that into the political arena right now? how do we invite more reasonable conversation? so to celebrate those hard lines for what we want to be true we do not celebrate not moderation of belief some say that i am too liberal one

thing i have looked contrary to the seven years i was leader in the legislature there is no difference but when i was doing it i was so reasonable i forgot to pay attention. and that is the challenge that is the same as the effectiveness. climate change is real in case you did not know? the bills by the chamber of commerce with sound extreme buffer rules. and they should have been able to move those they control the governor's office the house in the senate.

i went to the tea party and said i need you to help me block this bill. not because they believe in climate change but i convinced them property values are real because if the streams are eroded and they would go down. stridency he says only if you agree with me why you are doing it. and get you to do what i need you to do anyway. we block that for three years and then to to do the things and where you try to match those needs to one another. but to the extent everything has to be about your conversion to my beliefs you will be unhappy for a long time.

>> somebody that can get things done i like that about you personally so as someone who gets things done, one of the things that keeps boggling my mind is how you get so much done because yes you run for governor but the majority leader of the house but also a romance and suspense novelist? talk to me about this. i am trying to do a few things as well not going as well as for you.

>> is that just a personal pleasure hobby? at this is something i want to do? back in after eight of t5 i talk about worklife giga there is no such thing as worklife balance it is a lie we need to reject that with a white hot fury of a thousand suns and it does not exist. i really difficult game is giga -- jenga is a difficult game. writing my first novel was during law school when i felt i did not want to go to class my ex-boyfriend i was one of four people to write his dissertation he discovered a

chemical and i thought this is cool you could do this with its he said no you can't do that is not what it is and this is why we broke up because you have no imagination left back. [laughter] so i was taken by the adsl i thought i will write a spy novel that this was the late '90s and publishers were not publishing spy novels by or about woman and i wanted my main character to be a woman of color that certainly wouldn't happen i talked to friends they said that won't work i know i have read espionage novels with women but then i realized they were women's novels plus a deep and abiding passion with luke and laura and scorpio on general hospital so i wrote it as a romance novel.

[laughter] so that was the beginning of rules of engagement assented to publisher and she was in the market because it was the end of 99 at the real beginning of women of color writing romantic suspense with more action adventure and she really liked the books and said you want to write a couple more? we had student loan debt so i said sure i also did not have an agent so i also accepted way too little money but then another publisher read my books and what you feel about a serial killer? so let's make that work.

then harpercollins actually someone's girlfriend gave him my book and called me is that i'm sure you don't have an agent because your writing is not traditional so he offered to represent me and got me to harpercollins and that is how i wrote eight books available in independent bookstores across the country and amazon.com. [laughter] [applause] >> one more question we will open to the audience for questions but my last question is i feel you write a book like this and you do the work that you do and run for governor it makes somebody like me who has no political

desire to think more how i can personally support the people who i see doing the work that i think is important. i don't live in georgia i cannot vote for you i cannot use the # or maybe that is a little helpful but those of us who don't necessarily see us going into politics help people like you? >> i will back out from the question a little bit to say part of the reason for the book is not everybody needs to be in politics as we have discussed i am a tax attorney romance novelist nonprofit leader politician. we can all find space in our world to be leaders to be powerful. one of the reasons i wanted to write this book i didn't want people to think power was reserved to a certain job or certain space in their narrative tropes hours because

sometimes you are powerful because you convince the pta to do something it doesn't want to do. the zoning board stops a mean or convince a politician to do what she should do without threatening. we are all possessed of power we don't recognize because we are told it isn't really power. and for me the active running for governor is the moment to seize that power because there has never been an elected black woman as governor in the history of america. there is something very threatening about my approach and my possibility. but also something very powerful about the fact i think i should and despite the people who keep telling me know because i have debt or i don't look the way they expect me to look, that this is my

time and opportunity. what you can do to help me specifically, go to stacey abrams.com to volunteer or messaging and you can help but for everyone who wants to see change figure out where it needs to happen and help the person that you know and if no one does it and that is your queue. that is your call. we have too many challenges going unanswered because we have been convinced we don't have the capacity to solve the problem into the very first chapter of the book i talk about daring to dream ambition is hard. it is awkward. sometimes looming -- numbing and taught from the early age to fit into what we are capable of. i want every person to think

their ambition are wildly achievable they should be confined only by time and space and nothing else. but then you have to organize yourself to make it so so if it is politician or a leader who needs moral support or your leadership that needs to grow, then the beginning is admitting you have the right to do so in the agency and authority to be powerful and no one has the right to tell you. >> thank you. [applause] >> she was looking at you but i thought she was talking to me. >> you have the right to be powerful scenic thank you. >> i will take question i only have one rule. you have to ask a question. you may have some really beautiful thoughts and i hope you can share them with her

when she signs the books but until then just ask a question can we all agree on that? fantastic. who has a question? >> can you talk a little bit there was a rise of over racism in america right now what is your response to that? >> removed trump from office. [applause] that is a glib answer but part of why we see the unabashedly dries needle phobia and racism is that we have a person occupied the white house who has said it is okay and when you give permission for the worst instincts of people to be living out in public and they will do so especially with no consequences.

my worry is that we have become known to the rise of supremacy grounded in race and the false notion of who should be in charge and who is right and that extends to how we treat immigrants and muslim communities and people of color or black people when they go outside or stand in the backyard. all of these or when you go to starbucks or waffle house or outside. i mean it this way that we have to continue to demand better not only of our leaders that communities the cry that went up because of what happened with starbucks was important but it has to be sustained and look at the old kid who was afraid to go to

school because he is afraid his mother will be taken away because she is undocumented. when we walk away from someone who is mildly mocked because they are different. we are personally responsible to address the challenge of racism and bigotry. it is only when we start to think it is acceptable or impenetrable it in it is a terrible thing that trump allows that to be done in his name but it is a terrible thing we allowed him to become president because we did not vote or that president obama was chastised for simply mentioning he thought that trade on martin could have been his child that he was lambasted the rest of us did not push back we have to remember this is the legacy of america but also i don't

believe it is permanent we use race to tell ourselves stories of who we are in gender to do the same thing. our opportunity is to make sure the stories we tell her better stories and the responsibilities we attribute to those who have power are actually true and held accountable. >> i am a big fan of tom's tire and you mentioned trump needs to go he was in atlanta did you go? do you think his approach is better than those established democrats in washington? >> i am a huge fan of mr. stier and i could not make it to the event but here is

what i would say because i think impeachment is a lover we need to look at but we create a false dichotomy within the democratic party it is or why we don't accept if you put them together you can spell words. we don't have to pick one thing to make it so i strongly support the idea that if president trump is committed high crimes and misdemeanors he should base impeachment. but the reality of american politics is until you change congress nobody will act on that. so how do we change the composition of leadership that values american values? that is not is what is happening right now so that is my mission to make sure the investment in this conversation is lived out in the midterm elections so we can take action if it is demonstrated this is something

we need to do. >> i'm sarah recently moved to new york. i want to ask a question you touched earlier talking about across the aisle and you notice with the lieutenant governor so is there a different territory as governor may be do have a more difficult time working across the aisle to be health more to the ideological? do you understand what i'm asking? >> yes. the reality is that we allow ourselves to be pushed into spaces depending on what we want one of the reasons you see people take a hard line position or the ideological position or compromising positions is because they want

to stay in power with their job. my responsibility is to never want the job more than i want to do the work. i want to do the work to be governor if working across the aisle accomplishes that that is what i do. the job is the important piece the title is great but if it accomplishes nothing it is a waste of time so what i try to do every single day is remind myself of what i'm trying to get done and why. that means sometimes you work with your friends sometimes you work against your friends or your worst enemy sometimes you fight your enemy but you never lose sight of why. part of what happens with power is power is seductive it is nice when there are fewer consequences for your actions and there were before. i also try hard never to enjoy

it. there are perks that are offered sometimes you have to say no not because you don't want it but if you take it is a slippery slope and i try my best to make certain that what i do or how i behave is something i'm comfortable with when i get the question in five years do i have to apologize or explain what i have done? i have to make tough decisions but more importantly i have to stand by those decisions so i am very thought a call i have a spreadsheet helping me plan my life over the last 20 years. i am very goal oriented as well. but that methodical behavior helps me you cannot avoid challenges but you can avoid compromising who you are trying to avoid consequences and often that is what we see

happen. >> as someone who has worked in government i am told we have to have uncommon patience and also animated by the surgeon see of now so how you think of pace and impact how do you hold that truth to measure success for yourself? b mckay served in the legislature 11 years. the first time i passed bill was 2016. i had been there almost nine years before that. during that time i cosponsored legislation, helped other people pass their bills, i found and wrote legislation i gave to other people to carry part of that i thought that was my responsibility part of it was i notice when i got to

the legislature if you wanted a bill to pass you became susceptible to people try to hold you hostage so to the question of the challenge if you show someone you wanted something then they would use that desire to force you to vote for something you didn't want so i realized what i wanted the done i was okay if somebody else out the credit as long as the work got done those of grandparents raising those who are not on that was personal to me they have patterson she was five diesels and as a lawyer i help my parents navigate the family children services network in mississippi i realized the check me and my sister who also went to law school it took us to help my parents imagine families in georgia who didn't have access to our

skills and training. so the patient's peace is be patient knowing your turn will come and your attention well, if warranted but it shouldn't impede your willingness to do the work anyway. i'm good. with this campaigner because the accusation i was ineffective because i didn't put my name on every bill that passed but i am okay with that because there was a moment that i needed to i could and when i do republicans helped to get it through because they knew it was so important and i did the work to cultivate others that i would stanch the disagree we did a study committee traveling the state going to places where they needed to be so they could see why it mattered the patients to know if you take the time to build the story in the narrative and the

understanding you can get what you need and that is hard with a cultivated sensibility that goes back do you want the title or the work? and for me it is about getting the work done. >> six months into your election can you tell us how the race is going and what your opponent is like in the numbers? b mckay have been running since june 3, 2017 and has been a long time but it takes a long time in georgia because democrats have not won election state wide and 15 years and part of the challenge has been there hasn't been investment to build infrastructure but also a difference strategy that we share the same first name my last name is first on the ballot as we should pay attention to. [laughter]

but we do differ and want to strategy my belief is that we cannot win elections as democrats by trying to convince republicans that they didn't mean to be republicans to put that in religious terms trying to convince an atheist they meant to be a catholic. i believe you just get a baptist to go to church if they share your beliefs but haven't done anything about it my approach is to find those voters who have gone untouched people of color, rural communities or poor communities or millennial's going to communities that often are taken for granted or ignored because i believe they to have the capacity to vote and the willingness but they have to have something to vote for. the reason there is a default in the southern democratic party in particular going after republicans that people often hoarded are voted they

just never voted for us and we keep crossing our fingers he broke up with me but this time he will come back. no. he is gone he is dating someone else they are happily married they have cars and pets and kids it is done not coming back. so my approach is our responsibility is to build filters from these communities it isn't just about me winning the election from these communities it isn't just about me winning the election nothing else happens i have not done my job. the numbers currently are in my favor the last two public polls have me up by 17 and 18 points. but half the state of georgia is not aware some of that isn't aware there is a primary it used to be at the end of july now it is in may so that is a massive change there is also name recognition challenges because the same first name they are not sure which one they like so now we try to convince them which

they want but the other real difference we have differed on gun safety she voted for legislation to force law enforcement to put guns back on the streets i would like to say i only get d's and s from the nra the only bad grades my parents have been proud of. [laughter] and disagree on public education she supported legislation more than once to undermine public education and allow private interest to have too much say how schools can be run we could beat some of that but not all of it i see myself as the strongest advocate for public education and those of the places where we differ. >> how do you see your run for governor playing a role with

people winning elections. >> you can say it nobody thinks it will happen. it's okay and i am teasing you. >> here is the thing. my election winning the primary but more importantly the general is absolutely part of the way that we talk about it that we are building the blue wave our sponsor ability is awaiting for the wave to sweep over us but actually proposes that we are investing on the ground with full texting and phone bank and canvassing before he reached out to more than 1 million voters which is unheard of in a primary because we have to build the infrastructure to win. because the wave doesn't just

happen that has to be composed and constructed and pushed and in the deep south there is a lot of skepticism about his capacit capacity. my factory will long -- my victory will transform the way we talk about politics. [applause] >> switching gears why you choose to write under a pseudonym? mckay was a law school actually the same year i wrote my first romance normal one -- operational dismiss of the unrelated business tax exemptio exemption. [laughter] so the advent of google and when people look up your name they find the things you have written my very first published work was

mesopotamian astrology it was in a college journal but then i realized if somebody looks at my name and they find operational dissonance and rules of engagement they will think it is a romance novel written by alan greenspan and nobody will buy that. [laughter] so i decided i needed a more provocative name so i watch a lot of television i was watching a biography of elizabeth montgomery her alter ego on bewitched was serena so i became selena montgomery.

>> what are the other races to watch to focus our attention? b make texas is very movable. he 17 the governors race down in florida the democrats lose by 70000 votes i am a big fan that is a winnable race and david garcia in arizona is a smart candidate coming close thing a statewide seat in arizona in 2014 this is his year to get it. i believe you have a governors race happening here in new york. [laughter] arizona is great i focus on the south and southwest those of the areas if we can convert if we start to flip the states

consistently read but transitioning purple for a whil while, it will only happen because we talk people. that changes america. we have to remember 2016 did not happen because donald trump managed to convince more americans he was right but because 77000 people in four states stayed home and did not see something to vote for. i am not chastising that but those who voted wrong but those had three choices hillary or trump or don't. it is incumbent on politicians to get somebody to vote for it is insufficient to say this person is bad. i don't think that is what hillary did but there were structural challenges with her campaign but our responsibility is that it is not enough to say this guy is battery for. we have to say what happens

for you when we work together and you vote for me that is why i talk about policy so frequently. people vote when there is something in it for them. it is the maintenance of democracy and we want the satisfaction to stick it to the man but there has to be a positive reason and those reasons are transformative for america. >> so the issue of education, can you talk about how georgia has its challenges in education what it takes? >> public education in georgia , we are not the worst but

nowhere near good. part of the challenges we find education based on the formula 40 years ago. georgia doesn't look like that anymore one of the most diverse stations point -- dates of the nation it will be a majority minority state the first in the deep south since reconstruction. it is no more -- more expensive to educate a poor child, special-needs or world or english as a second language but the formula does not reflect that necessary investment. in addition the last 15 years the republican party systematically divest public education of $9 billion. you cannot build any effective system when you systematically and consistently underserved it so that means that children who graduated from high school at one point adding up all of the furlough days missed one

solid year of education. we have to invest in education again. to understand that means investing in teachers and students and those professionals bus drivers, counselors, nurses, put technology in schools and treat everyone as the most important school my parents made sure we lived on the middle-class side of town you should not have a degree in cartography to get a good education but that type of funding to recognize you should have arts no matter where you go to school or step education, your zip code should not determine the quality of your education and that happens leo education to property taxes we will under

find your school because you are wealthy enough to live in the right place play mission is to make or to zip code is no longer a metric for the quality of education that you receive that is the first priority and responsibility. [applause] >> once again thank you so much for your time and talking to us for writing this amazing book that you all have now and should be signed as that will make it more valuable. [laughter] >> also seek and ask her more questions. >> i lived in france for 15 years i just moved back to america and this afternoon i was in my kitchen i heard you on the radio i didn't know anything about you but i jumped out of a work event so

i could come meet you. you had a profound impact and you will resonate with me deeply and i feel hopeful for the very first time and i want to say thankful for doing so -- thank you doing you were doing. >> thank you so much. >> we look forward to supporting her candidacy. [applause] thank you c-span. >> and you will sign copies? >> yes speefive. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]

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