tv Ken Bensinger Red Card CSPAN July 1, 2018 5:31pm-6:46pm EDT
well, thank you for serving rural america and following in your father's footsteps, your heavenly father and your father's. and thanks for making hard decisions and being a charitable giving icon in this community and around the world. it is an honor to have gotten to know you and i predict this book is going to be an incredible success. good luck, my friend. this book which i read half of cannot be put down. one of the things that's been interesting to me is people call and say i'm not really
interested in soccer. should i read the book. soccer is a passing significance in the book. this is a true crime kind of story about corruption, power and you will see names that you are familiar with if you are reading the newspapers today about what is going on in american politics. it is an amazing book i encourage you to buy it. the only thing that i encourage you to do is to sign up to be on the mailing list because we have events like this a couple or three times a week and you will find that if they start to come that it will add something to your life so thank you for being here and without further ado, thank you both for being here. [applause] >> i don't know where we start, but thank you, and given what is
going on in american politics what i trained him to do i think that he learned a lot more than i could ever teach him very fast. it is a pleasure to be here. before i start talking, let me ask who here is unfamiliar with the whole structure of international soccer? let me get a quick primer. every country in the world plays soccer, it is 211 of them that has a national association that runs their soccer program. then they all belonged to fee fifa, the overall organization, and then fifa that invites the world into regions. so, the catchall with all the scandals going on is to defeat
the scandal. most of the horrendous corruption occurred in south america and north america and obviously they get their organizational bona fides by being part of fifa but all of these regional entities have their own competition. sell tv, marketing sponsorship price which of course is where the money comes from a so i want to make sure you have that background. and as burke said, this is a crime story. it's the gathering place if you will. what fascinated me in reading it was i knew a lot of the players i was in thankfully not in, but
a lot of the episodes that went on, but how you piece it all together is just amazing to me. we have a full credential list allen was the chief executive of the 1994 world cup and was in charge of running what was by most accounts the most successful workout in history, certainly the best attended world cup in history in terms of the number of people that link to it and turned a profit compared to some of the others.
allen was also president of the united states soccer federation which is one of those that he mentioned overseas the country's operations and reports directly to fifa and also the cofounder of the major league soccer which is a professional league that has two teams here in los angeles and has played all over the country. he's been on numerous fifa committees and has been involved in the sport at the highest levels for decades. another fun fact is that allen makes a cameo in spite of the book because unbeknownst to him, he went to dinner with one of the secret cooperators and he was wearing a wire.
[laughter] there was an fbi agent sitting in the same restaurant waiting for him to put his foot in the mouth and he never did, and they never did anything with him, but they sure tried. >> when i got the book, the first thing i did i was hoping my name wasn't even in it. the speech of the. was distracting for them to the beverly hills steakhouse very trendy at the time was distracting for them to pay
attention because the whole gaggle of hollywood stars would walk into the restaurant and fbi and irs agents are not necessarily used to that kind of thing so i think they have trouble paying attention to the conversation. [laughter] to answer the question how to put it altogether, there was a first draft of the 60 or 70% longer than the final draft, but even before that, there was a moment i was in the basement of the national library in argentina and the site was going through newspapers from 1978, trying to learn as much as they could about it being very problematic to use the word we used these days. and i thought to myself how am i ever going to tell this story there are so many characters and moving parts. and i think that ultimately, the answer was a lot of cutting and a lot of removing material that
seemed extraneous. i have an editor that is of the old school so much that he added pencil and ups manuscript printed out and it tells you what sort of pencil to use when you make your changes and mail it back to him. there's too many custom cuts that would've came dowbutwhat ig it down looking for the central most important story that kept it going forward. some blood had to be shared. it was important for the investigation, but he ultimately gave them a smaller role in the story because they didn't get invaded were arrested. [laughter] >> a good example easily one of
the most corrupt officials in history, and he's in the book but there was a version he did get invited to your never going to get him he's never going to leave, why don't we focus on that ending where they can get these guys comes up as , so thae that had to be made and it was held together coherently despite these efforts. >> burt eluded to some of the things going on in washington. reading the book, that struck me a lot including the original source was an irs agent and it was less about the glamorous stuff that you read about in trials or mystery books.
the tell everybody about how that went down, and i am just curious did you spend a lot of time with him afterwards? >> let me start by saying i am a journalist and there's certain types of sourcing that i can't talk about. the sources i can and can't name and in this book there are characters that it probably looks like i talk to them when i didn't and others it might look like i did talk to them but i did, so i'm going to have to be like you know, a magician and not tell you all of the secrets that i wilbut i will tell you am nonetheless. she is a fun character because he's very unlikely for the story.
at the time he comes along they were stymied because they were having trouble making the case moved forward. he's an irs agent in orange orae county. southern orange county, in the office of the internal revenue service and would seem to have nothing to do with this but it turns out he is a diehard soccer fans and his father was stationed in england when he was a kid and he was a liverpool fan but also a great athlete and had a division i scholarship is a aa placekicker to kick field goals for i think i want to say that southern and northern illinois university. he went down and originally in riverside county in orange
county doing narco cases they were always chasing the drugs and said you can't complete that investigation. you don't close the loop so that is where he took the cases that had one or twhave one or two cok them in and took them away forever looking at the xl spreadsheets all day long you can make this case.
there was a trial last november december, and he spent three days, only one person spends time and there was a screen and they were projecting a spreadsheet 13,452 you will see and when he wasn't testifying looking at other spreadsheets because he was continuing to do what he did best. >> underlining everything that went on with trump and the russians and everything else is initial transactions that i think were more questionable and
see from the outside what he's doing sure looks that way. this passage really struck me. the agents as the big revelation in the cases is drugs, guns and violence were only half the story and the county want once l the money had been traced. meticulously chasing around the world adding additional charges that often defended to the indictment.
they were exaggerated and contradicted themselves. documents never lie. what i can tell from the record is that will be similar to that. >> there are people on his team that had this investigation. he's not a supervisor in the case had sort of trained him and a woman that worked beyond supervised other cases while he was running this case and she's an interesting prosecutor profiled a couple of years ago.
she's on the case as well and they were trained in the same tradition of that kind of police work checking the boxes of paperwork and showing it because it is more compelling than anything else but also when it comes to saying you can do it our way or the hard way, there's those kind of prosecutors that is used to getting people conference in this kind of evidence all over because it is so completely overwhelming. we are outside of the scope of the conversation when we find it that he's wanting to go to trial concerned if the evidence they might have on him it seems like suicide.
he was ahead of the fb the headn this case open and and then he created a new vision for the fbi that had to do with forgetting about crime and focusing on what he considered to be terrorism related crime, counterterrorism and the money movements that would support it so this needs a lot of money off of them and the squad called the organized crime squad for those active in new york and imagine there is no longethere's nolonger an appeti. they are looking at new things to do. they are being bled of agents
for the guy that was in charge of it starts trying to figure out a different way and he thinks if i can do with the transnational organized crime that he is going to like it eastwards traveling around talking about the cases he can find. he's chasing a case at the center tower involving an illegal poker room and online sports book. there are some russian cameos in the movie. the head of this whole thing was like the mafia. he tried to build a case looking for other cases and through different connections he ran into a guy that becomes famous
years later. raise your hand if you have heard christopher steel who wasn't famous banditry tiger to the mia six and he needs the fbi agent, tells them what they can about the russian mafia and the sort of leave off saying if you find anything else interesting you've got my phone number, here's my card. he already had a client at the time, they didn't talk about it in the first meeting, but the client was two when the world cup and england doesn't have the world cup. they were spending enough small amount of money to win and this was a yield for them. they want to cover all their bases so they hire a bunch of
different students to gather information about the competitors and voters and they know he knows about russia. he starts getting ominous things from th the sources about what russia is up to and they don't seem to be playing fair. he's hearing rumors about potential clients and people getting involved that normally should have been oligarchs and the fact that he is a hockey fan suddenly he is obsessed with soccer and all of this is troubling to him so he calls the agent up again and says you should come back to london i want to tell you about something else. they want to tell how he might be trying to play semantic games and how there might be national crime involved. he's one of said what is fifa.
he goes back to new york excited about the idea of making the case and finds the prosecutor and is convinced he will open the case. it's important not just because it has the name but also because that is an essential first step in building the relationship between the fbi and christopher steel that ends up playing a more important role. he wants to give it to the fbi because he had this track record over time, he had this relationship he was already proven. so he calls the same agent who at that point was no longer in new york working at the embassy in rome and so he says you should come to london again. it's a safe bet he wouldn't have taken it seriously.
it took the success to make it viable and incredible suppor sos one of the other parallels. jim cody was the fbi director by the time this breaks open and when the press conference happened, he's standing in book when announcing it towering over loretta lynch and sort of a lot of the characters that we think of as trump specific one of the things i've been thinking about is the timing of this. the attempt to get the world cup that we now see in russia, and england was super qualified to get it and russia was unqualified, england was the perfect place except for maybe the usa.
but they didn't have the stadiums, the money, the airports caairportany of this sy didn't have a good soccer tradition. this is the period obama was present and we were in the russian reset and they were buddies. they were making deals and at the same time christopher steel is finding out all of these things happening, russia is agreeing to sanctions against iran. it's hard to forget that now because we think of russia in pretty stark terms this is as far as we knew in 2010 and what we see now is that this was the first to sign up what what we
are dealing with that kind of machiavellian. russia wants the world cup because it's the most important sporting event in the world. they want all of their eyeballs on them and for two reasons, one i think putin was prime minister at the time and was planning on being elected and wanted to win the world cup so that internally he could speak to the voters and say look how great i got us the most prestigious event in the world. the last collection in march he got 75 plus% of the vote. but the second thing was to get the world cup now so that he could have two projects that help her out. she had a proven he was a big strong man and wanted to show the world and now we are seeing in 2010 in hindsight is a russia
that was interventional that would do secretive things to get what it wanted and no one was really noticing it except for the fbi agents. >> a central figure and when they were able to identify when they saw the initial test issue is by the name of chuck blazer. some of us know that i wish that he would give a terrific description physically, psychologically, every which way. >> keys no longer with us. he died last summer. he is larger than life both figuratively and literally as you can imagine a figure. he was about 450 pounds, very tall, maybe 6-foot to promote
type two diabetes and all kind of other health problems. he would ride around central park on a mobility scooter with a parrot on his shoulder in a mop of tangled hair on his head that looked like santa claus basically. he went to forest hill high school which is the same as the ramon and also simon and garfunkel and peter parker, spiderman, they all went to forest hill. he didn't come onto it until he was in his late 30s when his kids were playing soccer in westchester county in new york and the way that i like to tell it if any of you have kids play soccer there's always someone
that said i if i ran this league if i were the president of soccer i would do this if i were in charge, the key is the guy that actually said that and became the guy running soccer. he learned about cutting orange slices to being one of the 24 most powerful man in world soccer. he was the first american on the fifa executive committee in 50 years and the head of one of the associations allen was talking about in the regional confederation. i think they did a lot of good with its first significant television contract. he played a big role in the women's national team. he was a supporter of women's soccer and i think that helped him understand how important it
and the game was. at the corner was doctor ruth so that's the kind of guy that he was just a big personality but what we learn towards the end of his life which is a famous soccer thing. one of the guys that convict did it was handing out medals to the brazil soccer team and putting them on the net like that. one kid skipped and and put him in the middle like that.
he is in brookland metropolitan center waiting for his sentence. he was convicted on five or 6 pounds looking at a maximum 80-years-old, he's probably going to die in prison. so, his thing was working out deals for him. he didn't invent although he claimed he invented that he didn't really invent the smiley face button that was really big in the early 70s. a couple of guys from philadelphia probably invented that. who knows where it came from, one of those situations but his wife owned a boston company and he made a quick fortune that he later lost during that said he saw an opportunity to go to the sport but also for himself and one of the famous things he does is when he gets his job at the regional confederation he gets
the opportunity to write his own employment contract, which if you are in a romantic you write your own contract, but he did and what he said is i won't take the salary i will just set up this company and they will get 10% of all revenues for every single dollar that comes through the door will come through my company. in the beginning there wasn't much revenue bu but by the last arrest $17 million of revenue. he did pretty well and on top of that he also used corporate credit cards to pay for almost everything he did in life. he didn't put anything on this personal expenses and he got the confederation to buy things that only he could use like a vehicle or a condominium in miami or the bahamas. it's a long list. he built a custom film studio, 3 million-dollar film studio in
light of his office which can anyone guess where they were asked trump tower. and where was his high school reunion hosted but in the lobby of the trump tower. he built a film studio using a grant from fifa so they gave a 3 million for development grants to build a film studio and that didn't stop him from getting $300 million from that for his own. it's amazing to consider that revenue, but anyway no bookkeeper caught it. he didn't file the taxes for so long the internal revenue service has revoked the 501 c. three status and he also didn't file his own personal income taxes either. he didn't do that for at least 17 years or maybe longer.
i found court filings from a civil suit in which they said he had some tax issues in the early 1980s he wasn't filing taxes either so maybe a leopard doesn't change its spots. going back to our friend steve berryman, that was his fault he didn't pay taxes and one of the reasons you can understand he didn't buy the condo himself he didn't want a paper trail. there is a story i heard he loved to gamble and trade. he went to vegas and if you play enough they will give you a free room or whatever. he would refuse them because he figured that meant somebody would know he had income so he wouldn't participate. they had a magic power which is
to look at tax returns. it turns out they can't do that. it's a huge obstacle they need someone to do it without the order of a judge and be explained like five times i don't really understand it but if they get the judge's order to look at the return without the irs involvement it makes it a sickly impossible for them to charge them fo on the tax fronty don't do it. he pulls up and sees it and says he never pay taxes which isn't uncommon. it is one thing to never file. it's a matter of proving income. they end up at odds with each other and he starts leaking documents to the press on the website of the brief investigative journalists who
doesn't know what it all means, but they put out ther it out thd the agent needs it and notices literally looking at his computer screen with a magnifying glass the back of the check that have been photocopied and scanned and put on the internet you read cancellation and it is darryl lynch. they would send these to the caribbean where they have all of these secret accounts. he could get all the financial records and build it because it was merrill lynch and not the firsis not thefirst caribbean nn the cayman islands and he could do it without making a lot of noise. they would have to comply and not tell anybody, which is to start asking banks and other
countries for their financial information that gets a lot more complicated and noisy city subpoenaed the information and of course they sit down with him and there is no -- this story is that he was handcuffed and pushed up against the wall but it's not like that. he thought it was about something else. they sit down and they say the fbi agent introduces him and you have to read the book to know they already knew him and he says this is steve berryman. he says i love football, i care about it but i also want you to know you haven't paid taxes in 17 years. [laughter] here is the subpoena. you can't get out, you have to
give the name and account number and the alternative is not so good for you. sometimes you have to drag them down town and like paul manafort he won't do it but they took up maybe 17 seconds to decide and within a couple of weeks she was sitting with prosecutors telling the whole story and explaining to these guys what they didn't understand about soccer which was a heck of a lot. because he had been in the thick of it for decades, he knew a lot, enough to tell them what to do and where to go. you mentioned whistleblowers.
i think of this as something you do because you feel some kind of moral umbrage outrage. this doesn't feel like moral outrage. he decided to wear a wire and the consensus comes from one frm one-sided phone call by the way the other person doesn't know and they did that because we better tell you to. that one didn't work out but others did including the brazilian and that made the case because although he was a taker,
he paid countless millions may be north of 200 million over his career and was for north and south corruption. he delivered them to south america quivering still. >> for everybody's background, most of the bribery payoffs related to the marketing rights in the americas so for example if somebody wanted to get the rights that are hugely valuable, they would go off and pay off whoever the executives were
running it and then of course the legal theory the attorneys use if that was the value of the entire package, that money should have gone to the soccer federation in total but just the parts they got through most of it revolved around that. most of the stuff talks about the scandals and the one specific, this is why i was having lunch or dinner with chuck i was representing the government of morocco when they tried to acquire the rights which have been designated a vindictive coming to south africa and what happened i went to bed the night before the vote and thought we were going to
win, look up the next day, there was a boat and we lost and we knew exactly who flipped, it was chuck warner and one of his cohorts. i had assumed there was a payoff. i had no idea but apparently what they were thinking sunday asked him when he volunteered to meet with me was if we thought we had the votes in advance we must have paid him and they paid him more so that is how we lost it. >> so you were a big disappointment. [laughter] one of the things that that is the south africa bribe to change
the votes of him in the confederation to vote for south africa rather than morocco and in the checks that i mentioned earlier it was a small chunk of the money that was a part of that coming into the installment so so many that lead t led to ps but the problem is that was the kind of high-level corruption when you think of which clearly exists and when he admitted to it it is a very strong there is more where that comes from but that is the most on this other side of soccer that people didn't see and that is where he was important because no one thinks of the candidate, people ask about sponsorship and television bribery that in fact when we think about the money in soccer and how popular it is most of it is not the highest
levels both tournaments everywhere and all the sponsorship and all these other brands involved in it. it turns out they had questionable things. nike hasn't gotten in trouble with this day but the story goes 92 or 93 they went to meet to try to get him to sponsor the u.s. national team and he was not interested. then the world cup happens huge success and brazil wins the world cup and is 100 something thousand people and thought maybe soccer is something important and agreed to sponsor the team at that point. but also went and got brazil.
they are not going to sponsor croatia or japan. they are going to sponsor the number one team in the world, so they went down there and when it comes down years later although it is more complicated than that, the huge contractor than brazil included kickbacks. we didn't know there were kickbacks they were being kicked back and put in his pocket. all of these would include bigger and bigger bribes until the end the scenario that was here a couple of years ago and if a guy that was not taking over the north american confederation was demanding originally 15 million the negotiated down to 10 million-dollathe10 million-de one tournament so that is the
kind of money that you're thinking about. that is money that could have gone to the consideration because when you think that the economics and why is someone bribing, why would i bribe to get the rights of something i want him to not only give me the contract that promised not to negotiate with anyone else. come us not to talk to anyone else about it and when the contract expires, give me the first right of the negotiations. it's easy to imagine a national marketplace might have been worth 200 million was never put to market.
it was hidden behind the extradition and it would probably never be brought to justice. >> the story that designates m may 272015 which will go down in history as one of the most significant days of history it was before it was an incredibly luxurious hotel that you're sort of fancy american hotels and giant chandeliers and it's a very surprisingly small lobby understated in all of this and they have the talent for making
the thing looks really nice. they knock on a bunch of doors at 6:00 in the morning and say we are here to a rest you think you very much and drag him out of there. she's completely terrified, doesn't toughening, he's talking is bad and this other guy calls up and had just taken over the soccer confederation from the other one and says you've got to help me my husband is in troub
trouble. he hasn't left brazil since. he was fortunate in a misstep in the first round until the following december they have to fly somebody in to vote because he was a voting delegate living in brazil that all this evidence is being put out against the other guy to show that it's against him almost as if he were convicted in th a trial in broon because all the evidence was
for the world domination. the first time they interviewed him another place with nothing in it and that feeling of bill clinton happened to be in the room witroom when the vote was d and bill clinton was the chairman of the bid he must have called up obama and ordered an investigation and loretta lynch puts her best guys on and that is not true at all because the investigation was already up and running earlier. it doesn't make sense because if it were were burne were orderedt would have been with the
attorney ftc because that's where they are occupied this is on the district where it's a great historic district so that isn't the case that people want to believe it and they were not even thinking about country andy and the u.s.. there is one case where december 3, 2010 which is the day after the vote, they have "the new york times" sports section. to give you a sense of how important it was then, it was inside page five of the sports section and he opened it up and said look if he got the world cup and i think the reaction was that great but what does that have to do with our
investigation? so that is my answer to that. >> i am not by any means justifying this, but there's a lot of outrage around the world number one, how can the united states go and invite people from other countries? they don't have these laws in most parts of the world were corrupt practices in most other countries in the world. if a wire transfer money through the system in the united states bank in all likelihood, that is enough to get the jurisdiction which again in the rest of the world in the other part that is bewildering to a lot of us about
the fact that bribery is commonplace in the world it's the way they do business didn't make commercial bribery crime. and in fact at one point you could actually take the cost. i'm not adopting it that if they say we want to come to the united states, we have a perfectly good business, we are told you've got to hire this lawyer and he will tell you this is a lobbyist but you should hire and support this elected official and get your deal they said we are just a little more straightforward about it. i'm not justified yet that some
of the anger and perplexity is they really do not understand our walls and the way we do business. >> it took a lot of explaining to make them understand what they had done. it was another legal hook they figured out if you are in officer or institution that has a code of standard and you are beholden as an officer and also to the ethics code and if you do things that violate the code
then you are defrauding the institution you look for. they knew that they were really sneaky about it. there were all these overseas account, they were taking cash and there was one that got convicted who would send his personal driver a 15 hour drive each way to pick up the cash prize, put him in the back of the truck and drive 15 hours back, loaded the truck and drive right back with a couple hundred thousand in cash. that doesn't smell like a legitimate way and i think people came out and it looks
like [inaudible] >> absolutely. >> has anybody come up with a close estimate of how much russia paid to get the world cup that is going on right now? >> there is a fun story about that. there's questions about the world cup and they hired a former u.s. attorney where the name of michael garcia who is in the state of appeals and the new york appeals judge on the highest level of the state judge that she was hired to do this investigation and it's what i find to be an amazing curly cue in the story he couldn't get them to conduct the investigation because he was on
a banned list they banned him from stepping foot in russia. they don't have as much when it comes to these kind of things so he went and said okay give us your book, show us so we can find out whether it's clean. and if anything you ask about that, we had all these computers and we kept track of all this stuff but they were borrowed and when it was over and we won and we gave them back to the person that loaned them to us they said unfortunately they destroyed all the computers, so there is no computers left. we are sorry there is nothing. there is no record at all of what happened and fifa was like no harm no foul.
>> one of the consequences in this whole scandal is that it was then banned. but you might put the tv set on today and see who putin has asked his personal best. it's a classic move of the here. in the opening game he's next to the current president is in a position as the way he would have the job without it and then a week later he is sitting in a different booth with putin, excuse me, with the sort of disgraced former guy that said you were so bad you are not allowed back you are banned from
it went down in history as one of the most in modern history, the case fell apart so badly they got no conviction it was a black market ruling. they lend themselves to it because it is based in switzerland and they don't have a lot of oversight and because it is so popular throughout the world that no on but no one wan. >> one thing is can we host the olympics and obviously there are
big dollars bear but beneath thh that, the tv rights and marketing rights of the local gymnastics team or archery team have no value and so there's nothing, not no value but obviously relatively less. soccer is the passion and basically every country in the world and so there's money in all these levels deep. but there's all that money. the brazilian national team, they are worth a fortune. i don't think that the gymnastics team would get a big tv rights ... just so different. everyone wants to watch olympic. soccer is different.
all these things are valuable. >> we don't understand because they are so fixated in particular in los angeles. i was trying to get interested in the world cup in the early '90s i would tell people that there are 209 members in the united nations and if you gave them the choice to belong to only one, probably all but one of five or six would say the heck with the rest because that's what those people lived for. they are watching games at 5:00 in the morning.
>> they made them susceptible to bribery but now they've changed that in all 20710 have a vote on the location of the world cup. do you think that will stem the tide from bribery for their vote because it is such a small group of people. >> now the entire congress gets it and its public and you can see something because they are so irritated about this investigation. but transparency seems better.
it's lower cost if you want to bribe the guy from sierra leone we will have to see over time. fifa is making it harder to host. the next world cup, but the one in makes it sort of geometrically more complicated bottles and infrastructures and the number of countries that can be sort of expected to pull it off so that might be one optimistic way to look at it. it was all from their standpoint to get the vote you needed a
majority of the people of congress. they pay money to the federations for various programs and the first congress i ever went to literally as the voters walked up to the ballot box they were handed an envelope with money in it allegedly for their federation. there's a little history they have to overcome. >> it is a cultural problem and the roots of that go back for another conversation, but it is a deep-seated problem and i think that people ask now that they've busted all these guys is going to be fine but unfortunately it is not. they cut to three generations deep in some of these places. then they have the next successor in a row but there's a lot of suggestions but that is
not putting enough. it is thinking of it like cancer that infected the organization. we treat cancer and to cut out the cancerous tissue, the tumor, but it's more to it than that. and i think that fifa needs about our treatment to get a clean bill of health. >> that's got to be in the director's cut of the book because it was too long. people don't want to read 700 page books but it's a crazy story and the brief cost on that is they had a big test and
ultimately because of all of that they made persona non grata for a while because of all of this and it was supposed to do something with the world cup and they yanked his name at the last minute. he didn't do it officially, but we actually bypass that and had it come dowhaveit come down andc entrance. but it was supposed to actually be on the stage and be the guy drawing him out but it was pervaded. >> there were several books and portuguese i have to force myself through them. i speak spanish, not portuguese, so it took a long time to write those books but they tell in great detail the story of how to in florida for a while and his
lover died in a highway accident in miami and that might have led to his falling out because the fact that he had a lover and that wasn't his father-in-law's daughter and that caused other problems come as a -- >> is a great book whether you like soccer or not. it's how it takes place and gets detected. it's phenomenal. thank god for the airplane ride to new york. read the book. it was fabulous. >> thank you for saying that and thank you to everyone for coming. ask the
you heard that there might be led in the water. when did that happen and what were some of the first actions that you took? >> it wasn't until the end of august, 2015. it happened to be at my house over a glass of wine with a high school girlfriend who happened to be an expert, somebody formerly with the epa in washington, d.c. when they went through a similar lead and water crisis. she said everything is not fine. it's not being treated properly.
that was the moment i realized i needed to take action. i tried to get children's blood lead levels because that is something that they track just like we track the flu and hiv epidemics. i couldn't get that government data so i did my own research to see what was happening to the children's levels had was the easiest project i've ever done looking at the change in children's blood levels and what we saw was alarming. >> i was born and raised in fairbanks alaska and the most
important issue to me is the walls our society seems to be giving up. i think a nation built on immigrants and diversity we are finding it hard to embrace our differences and that is creating great divides in conflicts. we should be focusing our problem-solving skills on more important, not how we are different because it's our differences that make us great. >> the most important issues to me we have a misconception that we are falling behind and that
isn't the case. it's important for the public to understand and work hard. i am a dentist here in fairbanks-here since 1976. came up here from michigan where i went to school at the university of michigan. mental health is a very important issue in the state whether iitis in the cities andl communities where there is no access to many of the care facilities. >> there were thousands of people free of charge i think it was in our second university in fairbanks the private sector of course there's the biggest burden. a lot of the treatment here is
donated and of course the government facilities probably count for a great entry in the area where there is no private practice so anyway, i encourage anybody who remember their dental hygiene. >> a resident of fairbanks alaska, it is our political divide. raised a moderate republican and i worry about the future of the country because it seems like there is no room for moderation anymore. and what we have is a conflict and nothing gets done in our political party so i would like to see some changes in that respect.