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tv   Secretary of State Pompeo Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov Hold Joint...  CSPAN  December 11, 2019 3:39am-4:28am EST

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>> good afternoon everyone. welcome. before i recap the meeting that i had with foreign minister and his team, i want to note that recently the trump administration is taking action with human rights violators about international human rights. these actions in the trump administration hold them accountable for human rights abuses around the world. i'll speak more about that tomorrow. now turning to our meeting. last may president trump's request i made a trip to russia to meet with prudent and the reason was pretty straightforward and we should have a better relationship with the united states and russia that we've had in the last few years and we have been working on that since that moment.
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our bilateral ties are complicated, we cooperate in some areas and other places we compete. over the course of my visit we agreed to continue the hard work the diplomats engage in. we agreed to keep our communication open and to keep her conversation candid as well. our talks today continue that, we touched on counterterrorism, counter narcotics, are intelligent law enforcement in these areas on a daily basis and we will keep doing so to make the cooperation even more refined and better. we are committed to working through un security council resolution 2254 to find a political solution to the crisis in syria, i think we agreed there's no military solution and we both want to make this number becomes a safe haven for isis
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and other terrorist groups. that goes for afghanistan as well. the cooperation are two countries have had on the issues that face us in afghanistan. today we agreed on the final verified denuclearization of north korea as a joint objective and a raise the importance of sanctions enforcement today. these are all good positive areas for our two countries and we will continue to do so. other places where there are greater challenges, venezuela is one, the longer that nicolas maduro hangs on to power the deep of the misery of the venezuelan people. we back the russian government to support the aspiration for democracy in the legitimacy of president juan guaido and that's what we made for free and fair presidential elections. also spent for amount of time talking about ukraine a major part of our conversations and foreign minister just returned
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from paris where the president putin and president zelensky had conversation and i'm proud of what this ministration has done in the difference of the sovereignty and security of the country and i reiterated before that crimea belongs to ukraine in the revolution in eastern ukraine begins with adherence to commitments made under the agreements. president trump, two is eager to pursue arms control with russia and china and we talked about that a great links and has to be verifiable, forcible and all the partners that have the ability to impact security around the world and i had the chance to raise the issue of u.s. citizens who have been detained in russia ringing homer citizens as soon as possible is one of president trump's highest priorities and we had a success is past weekend. on the question of interference in our domestic affairs i was clear, it's unacceptable and i
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met our expectation of russia clear, the trump administration will always work to protect the integrity of our elections. , should russia or for any foreign actor to take steps under democratic process we will take action in response. finally i want the russians to know that sanctions of the united states is leveraged by russian individuals and entities underway targeted the russian people and we have law-abiding citizens and will keep working on the diplomatic level to get this relationship right. i want to thank you for coming to washington, i look forward to continued conversation in the future. [speaking in foreign language] >> secretary pompeo for the opportunity to be here in washington we have accepted the invitation to visit the united
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states as a response visit after secretary pompeo traveled to the russian federation in may this year there was a meeting with the president as well as our negotiations. we meet each other regularly and we regularly talk on the phone when necessary in today's meeting has confirmed that it is useful to talk to each other, however, difficult this. in a relationship and including the global affairs, talking to each other is always better than not talking to each other. we have thoroughly discussed bilateral this. and we spoke about strategic stability arms control and businesslike and were trained utterly to hear each other. it's not a secret that we have differences on different things and we be naïve to think that
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overnight we can achieve. but i do believe there's always room -- there's no 100% coincident impositions in trying to find solutions that will not infringe on invested interest of each other. but that would allow to avoid conflicts and prolong combination. indeed we agree with their partners like mike tsai, the situation with major-league antinuclear powers and differences to benefit our country or the international community that creates additional tension proved we will continue our dialogue and we have reciprocal time to do that and opportunities to
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normalize our bilateral inflammations. we understand that it was hindered and continues to be hundred by the wave of suspicion that has overcome washington. we have highlighted once again the all speculations about religion interference in the united states are in no fact that would support that, we did not see these facts, no one has given us this proof because it does not exist. i would like to remind you from the first statements of the topic began, it was on the presidential election in 2016 the channels that existed back then between moscow and washington between barack obama we had asked many times our american partners about the
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opportunity to deal with the suspicion that we expressed in october 2016. all the way up to president trump's inauguration. there was our appeal if you suspect this is something, please put it on the table let's discuss it. we had 0 response. and after the inauguration of the administration of president trump we suggested -- they responded starting from october 2016 to 2017 but it's all become very clear to however, this administration and like to repeat that i'm prepared to do that to publish their
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correspondence that took place through the channel and would clear matters out. nevertheless we hope that the turbulence that appeared out of thin air will die down just like a 1950s and the opportunity to go back to a more constructive -- incidentally we have the opportunity of those times and reminded about that today to put on paper on noninterference in domestic affairs of each other using an example of the exchange of personal notes from 1933 of diplomatic relations were reestablished between the united states and the u.s., president roosevelt suggested. in the american times suggested and we agreed to do that, to exchange letters between president roosevelt and our minister of foreign affairs to put it on paper this obligation
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not to allow for any interference in domestic affairs of each other. it was the american side and we are prepared to do something similar at this point in time it's very crucial state. we agreed that it would be incorrect to put our relations on hold or deposit them or disown our interaction on topical issues of modern times. were prepared to do practical work and issues that are of interest in and prepared to do so with intensity that is convenient today for our american partners, one of our topics was british in stability and we've directed our partners out of the treaty and we have highlighted once again that in these conditions after the
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treaty existing, were interested in not letting seem out of ou our -- we suggest the president to speak with us some of the partners as well and russia is announcing the monitory him underplaying. they will not be deployed up until them and in those regions up until the assistance appears. that suggestion was made to our western partners including the u.s. in the moratorium to become the offer remains on the table. in the destiny of another treaty that is still not expired and it will expire in february 2021 and the new start treaty, russia has
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reconfirmed its offer already now to make a decision to extend the treaty. president putin has expressed his. we are also confirming our proposal to yet again use the example of the ussr in the u.s. to make a statement of present of incapability of a nuclear war, the suggestion is also on the table. as for global affairs we spoke about, i have briefed secretary pompeo and his delegation about yesterday's discussions in normandy and paris about the decisions made there in the issues that are yet to be settled and to move on fully and principal important that the
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document and president of russia and france and germany, we confirmed the value ability and requires their observance that is 100% ours. we also spoke about the need to continue our discussion of how to overcome nuclear programs, were well aware of our position and will do necessary everything in our power to save jcpoa and to make sure the peaceful nature of the research and we are very concerned about the situation that is taking place in the persian gulf and we support all countries that want to support security and safety of navigation. the washington proposal we
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suggested to begin a system of collective security. the level of political science experts in community have a special seminar in moscow in many countries of the region including arab states of the persian gulf that have taken part in that as well of european scientist and we have invited u.s. representatives and we hope that next time they will take part as secretary pompeo has said, we spoke about the situation around venezuela, russia consistently promotes the idea that it should be venezuelan led and the people should define their future that were seen in the format that unfortunately is in limbo right
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now. and what we are seeing at the roundtable is between the opposition and the government would yield the necessary result of the crisis will be settled. we spoke about the situation with ukraine and we are promoting denuclearization and against the backdrop we see the contact between the u.s. and the prk is very important and we hope the position that we have discussed with circuitry pompeo in the position of russia and china are coordinating our purchase return on these matters that will be useful. in order for washington of their future path in the negotiation process. whether in order to get out and necessary to move forward with a
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foreign major and were prepared to act eight on this track to overcome the current situation. we spoke about syria resolution 54 and the accomplices all forward that we need to define the movement toward the settlement and aspects and we highlighted the need between russia and the u.s. as well as other stakeholders to eliminate the syrian territory and humanitarian issues as well as need for sustainable constructive process that has begun in geneva within the community. with the syrian side has to agree about the future of their country. >> we spoke about others tension
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in the middle east and north of africa and there's many of them there in particular i believe we have mutual interest to a confirmation on a settlement in the situation around yemen and it's very important in keeping our eyesight in the palestinian israel that is apparently in critical condition. we also talked about bilateral affairs in the presence of the u.s. and russia in 2018 and later in the meeting of june this year. specifically about a whole number of steps and one of the result, renewed dialogue that took place one year ago and
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several rounds of ready taken place. that allows for a more efficient fight against the surge over russia, the u.s. and as well as global communities. we expect this format will remain an intense system. and now we have mr. john sullivan and he'll be taking place and part of hearing in the senate about the russian federation and we know him as a highly professional diplomat that will be happy to cooperate with him and we believe our ambassador in washington will also receive the same level of support. as for economy, the sanction as it is well-known does not benefit anyone, the trade during president trump's arrival, we had continued growth for $20 billion that was president
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obama's in our president trump and as of this year have helped reach the rival of 27 million around one third of growth, that means more jobs in both countries and more profit for producers. it would gain additional in the result would be beneficial. and were continue to find pounds in order to alleviate certain treatment and therefore the situation with the rest of russian in the fraud in the bigger situation to take part in international events in u.s. territory for diplomats as well as the situation with diplomatic property, we have agreed our deputies will continue specific discussions on all these issues and we want to make them constructive and the results
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what's most important. in the end, with all this, there is great cooperation in the economy and in the interest of both countries to tap in that potential fully and develop our relation to the benefit of our countries in the whole global community. that is intense and today we felt there is the same commitment of the american side and i'm thankful to mike pompeo that would like to continue this and i would like to invite him to visit russia when it's possible. thank you. >> thank you for the invitation. >> good afternoon mr. secretary. on north korea in your discussions with north korea, are you satisfied with russia and other countries sanction enforcement and within the past week north korea has warned of a
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christmas gift for the united states, did the administration prepare or expect north korea to return to a more aggressive posture perhaps? wanting to terminate negotiations? >> in your discussions for paul welland, are the u.s. and russia closer to resolving the case and as paul any closer to freedom and also do believe that ukraine meddled in the u.s. election in 2016 and is not specifically something you discuss with the secretary today? >> thank you. with respect to north korea, we've worked with the russians on enforcement and i told foreign minister that we appreciate the enforcement level that they have, they've done good work for you and security and these are not american sanctions per se, though driven by the un security council revolutions of the russians voted for themselves.
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there's always more work to be done on enforcement and there's a major event on the 22nd of december where every nation is required to have north korean workers out of the country and we talked about that today in many north korean workers that have been in russia and they require them to depart. were hopeful they will be able to complete that income into full compliance with that. as for our expectation with respect to north korea's behavior, i think president trump made our expectations. they said there would not be a long-range missile test in our commitment they were very hopeful that north koreans will continue to abide and we continue to work to develop places where we can communicate negotiation mechanisms and talk to them about the
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denuclearization and we are determined to help the north koreans achieve at a place on our objective. we need to jointly figure out a way together to get the north koreans together so north korean people can have a brighter future that trump is spoken so often about. [speaking in foreign language] >> for north korea i would like to add a few words, you've asked if the will u.s. is satisfied with the enforcement of sanctions against north korea, and the sanctions by the un security council, sanctions are an instrument being used by the un security council, however, that resolution does not deal with just sanctions. they also include the need to engage in more political process and that is often be lost. the efforts to cover the currenccurrentsituation were cot the political process seems to
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be supportive and the direct treaty and we promote the establishment and positive that it can result in indicate and propose a new idea receptacles and you cannot demand north korea to do everything and then go back to ensuring insecurity in looking at sanctions and the rest of all of this. the humanitarian situation in north korea requires urgent steps but would allow and understand and capability of the global community not only with the resolution but the preparedness of the global community to respond to legitimate economic and humanitarian needs of north korea . . .
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us to that stage we are at now and we expect the conditions will be greatest for the renew renewal. the process will proceed and that will put an end to the case and after that using the documents that we have between
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us we can make these bad decisions. i would like to highlight that they are talking about and we treat this issue with all seriousness. they suggested to offer it on that and if i didn't do that i would like to highlight once again it may be this tactic chosen a key put a drill to the of the officer they are aimed at an image of a martyr maybe that
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is not a correct one. in the united states in 2016 it has nothing to do with us. that is an issue for two sovereign states to publish as soon as washington confirms their agreement to publish these important documents [inaudible]
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will be extended and to add repetition but do you think about the need to engage china in the negotiations or trying to find reasons not and can you clarify on this balance between different states if he would allow another question [inaudible] the correspondence between the white house and the kremlin it
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took place in the fall of 2016 and winter of 2017. >> since we are talking about the new s.t.a.r.t. treaty i would like to say as i've already said in my initial remarks the russian president spoke again of russia's preparedness to alleviate the tension and the last instrument of arms control between the u.s. and russian federation will not be destroyed but will not be enforced anymore and we are prepared to do that even today. the ball is in america's court. >> president of trump spoke about that several times. china is prepared to engage in
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that approach and in that case we will need to look at other nuclear powers both official and unofficial. china spoke clearly that they will not take part in any negotiations because neither on the number or the structure of their nuclear arsenal they are not on par with russia and the u.s.. we spoke about that today. we looked at the statistics provided by the swedish research for peace provided on china and in comparison with russia and the u.s. arsenal and of course we are talking about a big difference in figures. of course if china is prepared to do that we are prepared to review a multilateral.
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as they said in may of this year the situation requires negotiations because there is no specific offer on the table by our american partners, and it will take some time. but in the meantime they could talk about the expansion of the new s.t.a.r.t. treaty and calm down the international repair that would be good. >> i will take a second question and return to the strategic dialogue conversation. we will publish all of the documents that we think are appropriate and what happened in the 2016 election with our russian counterparts don't think that there i there's a mystiquet what transpired. as for strategic arms control, the question was about the new s.t.a.r.t. treaty particular but
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it can be the case that could be the focus of an agreement entered into many years ago when powers were different on a diluted basis around the globe. it was at a time that the weapon system threats were different than they are today and the risks through strategic instability today are different it's no longer just missiles or bombers were submarines were warheads. there are many other tools that can create a strategic instability so we believe not only do the conversations need to be broadened to include the chinese communist party, but they need to be broadened as well to encompass the full range of instruments of power that can create the strategic instability that s.t.a.r.t. treaty and full range of agreements that have been entered into decades ago presented to the world. that's our joint objective we have to get it right. we talked about the fact china has fewer of those weapon systems today that is an
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accurate statement to enter into the conversation that doesn't necessarily mean we would camp any country at a particular level. it isn't about that. it's about developing a set of conditions that create the very stability for the security of our people in the united states, the people of russia and all over the world demanding of a good strategic dialogue so i hope that we can commence this and move forward in a way that is constructive with all of relevant parties talkintherelevt the threats with strategic stability around the world and if we can do that i'm confident we can make progress together. thank you mr. secretary. i understand everything you laid out about the importance of having china and those discussions. if it doesn't pan out given the
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objections would you be willing to go forward in any way and look toward securing towards sd contention of s.t.a.r.t. treaty and on the impeachment the democrats unveiled at the articles of impeachment which the democrats have accused the building of resisting oversight efforts and taking part in the betting. do you have any response to that? has there been any progress on establishing the business council and as you mentioned you would like to see the u.s. come forward with information about election meddling why not just read the report is detailed whed when it comes to u.s. allegations related to the 2016 election. >> if i am a good question about
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the congressional oversight they've complied with all legal requirements and we've had a number of officers testified. we've asked every officer who testifies under oath to do so fully, completely, accurately, truthfully and that remains the expectation that i have for the officers of the state department as well as for the things we need to produce documents response to the congressional oversight and we will continue to do that and to comply with every legal constitutional requirement presented to make sure we do the right thing by the legislative branch and keep the appropriate balance between the executive and legislative branch. i expect we will continue to do that in the days and weeks ahead. the second question was shorter and the answer is simply duly believe that there is a situation that we can get to a conclusion we might get to between just the united states and russia that improves
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strategic stability where we sit today can we move forward and make it even more even keeping at a level we have today there is concern as the weapon systems moved in advance. as the new countries develop the capabilities, there is a risk that there's a reduction in strategic stability just staying right where we are today. we will continue to engage in conversations with others of tht the aim of achieving that. >> for meddling or not meddling you suggested to read the
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mueller report and we did. there was no suggestion. to publish the data that would show how russia responded through special channels, this is a specially designated to reduce threats in cyber networks to show how russia responded and how all of the proposals were rejected by the administration it will not hinder the transparency and that wouldn't be bad for the special counsel when he responded to the
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question he said to widen the circle to talk about those in the arms control or nuclear arms control there were a number of conditions not in the final limits of any but now it's the first time we have the clarification and why i mentioned that it would be easier to do this on paper for it to be formulated in some way. >> we discuss our economic operation including the possibility to improve it and
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the presence that we had. >> i think they will be in the not too distant future and we hope to be able to do that before too long. to work on improving the business relations between the two countries and at the same time as we know that u.s. has imposed sanctions at this number of sectors as the economy, and a hell are you going to improve this relationship according to the sanctions? >> i would like to ask under
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what conditions can the sanctions be canceled. >> considering that, it is apparent that it's harder to work for both countries both in russia and the u.s. without issuing these and also to the official delegations have you discussed this issue and how do you plan to rebuild the work of the consulates? is the u.s. going to return the russian diplomatic property and under what terms? >> as for how meaningful it would be for the consular
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departments, we talk about the visa today but i would like to give you some figures as for the omissions in thmissions of the 5 were in our missions that work in bilateral relations because 155 diplomats is the member of the representatives. we decided not to exempt on the overall quota. those diplomats were not active in relations and moreover they have no right to so we have 155 less than the u.s. housing russia. unfortunately, our citizens have to wait if they want to receive
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for it 300 days, and it's about 40 days that is more than to take part the counterparts explained that as the quarters were introduced. possibly that's the right of any country to fund the diplomatic mission. we also had to cut two the bone and however in our case come in our situation, there wasn't a single case. they are provided in the same deadline and it's a principled importance considering the context between people with
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parliamentarians and all kinds of exchanges. the easier it will be to it'll o strengthen our partnership as i have said with a certain perspective. >> to respond to that for just a moment, we count a little bit differently. i don't want to get into the weeds on the numbers that we measured has how many diplomats. but what's important is that we make sure we are delivering on behalf of the country is consistent in the vienna conventions and the relationship between the united states and russia. we talked about that today. there've been conversations among my team into the last set of weeks to make sure the
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problems that we work through we can resolve. i'm confident they serve every bit of the mission as the russian consular service and we can deliver on behalf of the program in a way that is consistent with the two countries. you've aske asked me first aboue commercial relationship in the two nations. i mentioned a moment ago in response to a previous question we hop hope there is significant progress we can announce in the short period of time about how we would move our economic relationship forward further and before he spoke about the increase in trade over 25% in the united states and russia over the course of the trump administration we hope we can continue to do that in the base of what our significant sanctions that we believe are appropriate given u.s. policy, law and that the risks presented. we think we can deliver against the objectives and we will continue to do so in a way that
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is consistent with our relationship. think you very much for your question.
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