tv Jane Fonda What Can I Do CSPAN December 28, 2020 1:00am-2:01am EST
it is an orientation device and it's also and the immigration a, legal against illegal so they try to slice into many different lines. because if we divided society in eight different ways we can have these victim groups that come together and then sort of take on everybody else. so they try to get to 51% and the firm belief that democracy itself will then legitimize oppressing the other 49%. this is what they call democratic socialism but to me it is a form of gangsterism.
great that we are here with politics and prose and i'm counting the days until we can do that again and i hope all of you will read this book and then join us and also joining me from california it is so dark outside because of the smoke it was like it's a little the nice is very disorienting i'm almost at a loss of words and how extreme the situation is. we don't need any introduction with your award-winning acting career. and after the decades long work for being an activist is really important. so looking at the different side and she wanted to learn
more so she dove in today again to the science with the climate experts in one set i don't want to get too much into the weeds to seek out and listen to the voices on the frontline employment so it has been such a joy and then to see that captured in this book she said it is an odyssey to be self filling and then to guide us and join us on that climate despair to action. we also have amber with us and
you recognize her from many fashion magazines and also her entrepreneurial work. but i know her from marching together and she has been committed and to inspire us to get involved and to enjoy the work of social change. and then to join multiple that we were all connected together front of the capitol building to draw attention to the climate crisis in the impact from the west coast and around the world.
so it is great to see you. i'm counting the days until we are back in dc with the climate leadership and until then take it away. >> amber i think i told you this but just about one year ago i realize greta was right we have to get out of the comfort zone and behave like were in a crisis because we are when you're the person i had to call was annie leonard the director of greenpeace is there a more braver organization and greenpeace? i know they embrace big strong powerful actions and annie is at the helm. means so much to me to get
this thing going and continuing. >> i cannot wait to get to all of that and exactly how it started and jane thank you also to politics and prose for hosting us and annie all of your work a greenpeace it has been an honor to march with you and to learn from you and i feel so eternally blessed to be here tonight. i was reading your book. i loved how personal this book was because you talk about a very big subject, big issues we are facing with climate change. but yet you interwoven your own personal history and your own story. i found it so inspiring and it
helped for me to connect the dots. i hope that others will find that i just want to start by a saying that and how people who showed up for you were from the past. >> and you been an activist for many issues but you are keenly aware of the environmental issues even as early as the seventies but what really lead you one year ago to start? >> i kept asking what can i do? like got rid of single-use plastic sand cut back on meat with an electric car but that is the on-ramp and the first step. bed those of us want to transform but how do i use my platform appropriately but
there was a book called on fire and that book really shook me and how she quoted greta to get out of your comfort zone and put your mind on the line and that's when i realized and i called andy i said i wanted to move to dc for a year i will camp out in front of the white house. [laughter] i remember the silence on the phone she said that's great jane but that's illegal. we cannot camp out anymore so we have to find another way then we worked out the friday
fire girls. >> i love you came up with the name. >> there was a documentary film crew we could think of a day and the sound guy said what about fire go friday's? [laughter] >> that's incredible. >> and you talk about feeling despair and i think now since covid hit we have all been challenged with feeling despair and what happened coupled with what is happening right now like in california or the massive hurricane in texas and louisiana not just here in the united states. over the world we are seeing the these acts of climate change so how do you stay on one - - above all of that? >> sometimes i don't. it is heartbreaking here in
california we have a governor who just today on the news said he will not tolerate people who are denying climate change but he keeps signing permits for further possible one - - also tracking and infrastructure amounts we have to stop is the fossil fuel so i see somebody like gavin newsom and have the status on fire and he claims to be a climate activist but cannot stand up to oil. but i don't know it's talking to be with the climate strikers many of them have been on fridays with me. it's knowing how people change. if we started one year ago and
dc, 16 people got arrested when we left it was over 300 people and now we're doing them for six months and last-minute 750,000 people following us that is pretty amazing and tens of thousands of people signed up to be volunteers and doing things that matter to call and write and text to reregister and loving how they feel they are making a difference and that's what helps me get over climate despair is activism. >> and taking action. >> so the first time you were arrested one year ago, at the first rally so much has
changed especially in the united states but globally there has been a lot of upheaval but here in the united states we have seen a big summer for protest and masses of one - - massive amounts of social change so how do you feel now with that first arrest? >> i am glad that i was there and i did it and the people were there with me and we kept at it. was a little scary in the beginning. we did not know there were more photographers and protesters. we didn't know it would gain traction. but in the midst of the crises we were facing the uprising following george floyd, this is an important time when not only to have to deal with the election and make sure that
biden gets elected but also figure out who we are. who do we want to be? and fundamentally, i hope we all change the way we think and feel and function and not let the dog was all politicians who really don't care about us at all to lead us down the dead"which is happening now but i tend to look at the bright side. covid didn't break us it exposed where we were already broken because of people saw things i don't think they were aware of. they didn't realize our federal government has been so weekend and crippled by a guy in the white house right now when you face a pandemic and
the climate crisis you need a strong federal government coordinated and strategic can prepared and now people are faced with what happens when you don't have that. another lesson from covid is pay attention to the medical experts and the science which hasn't been happening in our people see what happens when you don't. and then i think people see essential workers the nurses, domestic workers, delivery come all the people that make our lives function that risk so much and get so little in return. not just now been in the future to earn a decent living to support themselves all these things that reflect on who we are. and i think we are being
shaken awake so i feel hopeful. >> yes we are. that is what i've come to realize really getting involved in different types of activism that all of the pads converge with racial justice and women's issues , indigenous, inability even my clothing oil industry, clean air, everything emerges like all paths lead to world one - - room people realize how interconnected everything is. i know that you brought so much of that you try to track are different issues but you also have people speaking from different backgrounds and you
collaborated with people from different backgrounds. talk about why it was so vitally important to collaborate with different movements as well? >> and so to collaborate and you are absolutely right when you say they all are interconnecte interconnected, the mindset i'm sorry to say the foundation of the united states that the econo is slavery it is a mindset that people are fungible and the land is to be used in overused and discarded you could always go to a new frontier. we treated human beings and of the land and nature as disposable so now we're at the far extreme of that mindset
and what it has given birth to late stage capitalism and globalism and it is staring us right in the face and all the same thing things. we just can't have a new politician and new politics we have to have a new paradigm which guides us into the future. >> yes it's all about a paradigm shift. one of the things so important for that shift is listening to the youth and to hear how they feel they don't understand how we passed away their future. i know you have a lot of young activists come even with the fire drill friday's and lm friends on instagram you want to talk to personally but how did you merge you didn't
necessarily need to do that and then to join together. >> and then to imagine somebody bops into dc from hollywood starting these actions on friday without ever meeting it would not have worked. it is to annie's credit that in order for this to work, we have to sit down with the people who were already there including the young climate strikers and also the heads of the environmental organizations that belief in action. some are about conservation.
so we got the organizations together to understand the value of actions and to get we figure out what we needed to do and many spoke at the rally. and then i brought in celebrities who are my friends not just because they were experts although ted danson knows a lot about the ocean oceans, but to be the ones to introduce the frontline people. the people of color and young women in those from standing rock. their voices are not heard from ali. and then to give them a platform. that is heartbreaking and important. and one worker that was environmental justice.
what a lineup? there was one from standing rock and then to walt disney. from houston who lives in the shadow of a refinery people could not breathe they all had one disease and then it was kennedy. and it made me so happy. one of the things i love about this book, you can see how it was centered. you can see the love and people's faces. it was great. >> so there was a lot of love and support and then martin
sheen spoke and gave an amazing speech, not sure whose it was but it was so powerful. he was so generous and gracious with so many people. and people from all over and it is just powerful. and those real demands you are making with fire drill friday and then to understand the green new deal but if you give a quick summaries of people who are listening here that
path. >> and to start off describing. so there are all these coal miners a lot have black lungs only it is worse. west virginia, kentucky, the owners have canceled healthcare for these people. that has disappeared. there are a lot of work miners who see no future or no institutional help. right? they are the victims of the transition. that cannot happen. we need to make sure when we move from a fossil fuel based energy economy, the workers
and communities and families impacted by the transitio transition, where they live, and their community , union jobs with the right to collective bargaining. so they don't lose anything now their jobs are healthy and clean and still earning a decent salary. with a fossil fuel industry a lot of the workers are unionized so they can earn a hundred thousand dollars a year. it's a good living we can ask them to leave that to go to work making solar panels $30000 a year. so the green new deal is a resolution, it's a vision to move forward in such a way not
to leave anyone behind. not just that we retrain those fossil fuel workers to work in the green economy but those in the low carbon sector, those that we call essential workers now and put they were very because of salary and they have family. and have maternity and paternity leave. they were taken care of. we should take care of our working people. the green new deal gives us a way to do that into a caring and clean and sustainable economy. like roosevelt did plan he was in the thirties during the
great depression. by the way, he didn't because he was a great guy but millions forced him to do it. so go out and make me do it. so the same kind of people that were opposed to him so i think he would have killed me if we would've been alive knowing his son was married to somebody who loved roosevelt and my time i saw my father cry was the day roosevelt died. that was a very part of our dna is a family. the. brave that is with the green new deal does. not just paint over the
civilian core with the original new dea deal, it requires changing the way we think and the way we live. and it sounds a lot of socialism. and one of the things the covid pandemic has shown us. >> now we just need the money to be is not to put us back where we were before, but use the covid many after the elections. that money needs to go to same people to work in a green economy.
the country is not resilient. we don't have a country that can stand up. and look where it is happening in houston and louisiana go our homes and healthcare system need to be sure it up and restructured. >> even if you look and then with michigan and all the other places with clean water the climate crisis is the lack of water. >> directly to that point
talking about lack of water and drinkable water how much the country economic equality is linked to climate crisis. talk about the disparity. were no clean water in santa monica? were to shoot out chemicals where quality poor people in the privileged neighborhood with income housing and indigenous communities. so there is a huge disparity even though we all feel the change eventually as part of the crisis.
so talk about how linked these racial inequalities are to climate change. >> i write about in the book. after annie got out of school, school,, i don't know how she describes it but how you would choose to put the red go a refinery or a waste dump or something like that and in school but once you face reality there is a study that came out 1987 i believe that so in those communities of color and low income it is
but then that has to stop. and it is one reason why those communities are so much more viable so. >> and women notice partially affected by climate change many other women are at the same time. so. >> there is a lot of reasons why i think women are in the leadership there are a lot of men that are leaving for month
after month in dc that two thirds of the people there were women. a lot of them had gray hair. that mend on - - men tend to get a little more sedentary and put it in a even revolutionary because we back to go after the i'm time meet which almost never happens for those are sitting around the campfire, helping each other
>> my friends are my hero. >> we love you jane. we were talking about women now driven by men but by that our little thing people think that you are connected but it is connected to the war and in the last 80 years all the wars are fought over oil. it is our number one offender. and we turn the military budget over to the green new deal. >> i did not realize how connected the military is to the climate crisis. the pentagon is the world's
largest users of fossil fuels. this blew my mind. the military the pentagon has been exempted from environmental regulations and as a resul result, superfund sites are all around military bases guys are getting lethally sick from the toxins in and around military bases and then what the us forces said in iraq and then just to toss into villages we will not be in trouble because they are not held to account not just the largest military budget it's larger than russia, iran, china, north korea all of those countries
combined i cannot remember have bases all over the world other countries don't have that many. we had a point is an aircraft carriers it is ridiculous. a huge portion of every dollar in america goes to the military for the children who don't have asthma or those not worried about eating or things like that. and then to take the money away from the fossil fuel industry and take the pentagon many and to put it into the
those that absorb our poisons to absorb so much of our sheet by phytoplankton for supplies of the oxygen in our damage. what happened so they cannot supply us with oxygen anymore. it is unraveling and the science tells us we have ten years to cut fossil fuel emissions in half and then phase of one - - generally phase out as zero by mid century that's a huge undertaking a greater task that has ever happened before but they tell us we can do it
those ready to roll up their sleeves and make it happen that's why am committed to fire drill friday. water, so much good is being done around water. >> and the lender get them to come with us because she knows more about water and what to do and has been creating all over the world whether the is a community or a church or
university a whole city or country to make the determination that it will go blue not to privatize water that's a public right taking care of for people to have a pipe system and those in the united states are worried they cannot withstand any more extreme weather events. they are too vulnerable right now but that is the system that takes the water. there are so many millions of people in the world that don't have clean water and it will keep expanding so water is something we need to be careful about.
>> that's what the green new deal will do. before we go to questions , would love for you to talk about what is in store for you for the next year and what people can do and what people can do go back to work until mid january so a lot not depends on the covid pandemic i'm itching to get back into the streets. i don't know what i will do except i'm waiting to stay as positive as i can and when the time comes i will go back out
with the fire drill friday community and greenpeace and make it happen we have to do everything we can to make sure joe biden gets elected. and and i have run into a lot of people there not sure if they can bring themselves. but this is what she says to them. it's better to push them separate so hopefully that will have some affect. we have to work really hard with many many other organizations so those that are registered to vote. i had to postal worker union people on and they are quite confident the postal service
can handle mail-in ballots but we have to do it sooner make a plan but once election is over , no matter who is elected to roll up our sleeves and make sure on day one they start doing what is needed. >> we have the bunch of questions. so the first questions about a new administration how biden and harris can address the damage already done by the current administration to deny climate change and do nothing. do you want to put more on that? >> there is a list of ten things he can do by executive action the first ten days he
has ten days and we have ten years the number one to declare climate emergency get us back into the paris climate treaty and then no new fossil fuels for america no fracking on public land a gradual phaseout and if you more i cannot think of right now but we will have to force them to do that and shut down the government if necessary and it won't be easy which is why people need to read the book text jane at 877877 to become a volunteer and actually do something enjoying the nonviolent army. >> the other question is i'm
hearing nonvoters tend to lean left is that despair and hopelessness keep them on the couch? >> i don't know that's true i'm not an expert on why people do or don't vote. so i'm not sure if there er liberal i'm not sure that's true. >> what advice would you give or smile on - - small advocacy groups doing on the groundwork what is the most pressing priorities for change within local government and community? >> it's important for people to realize it's good to have a president we can work with and the senate and the house but
how important are governors and secretaries of states and sheriff's and boards of supervisors and city councils. down ticket is critical you who loses? the koch brothers and all the oligarchs in america those that created the operatives in political organizations that little by little took over and won the state legislatures and governorships and their they were people thought it happened overnight but working silently under the radar to make this happen but the down ticket races are really important people have to pay close attention don't vote for somebody taking money for - - from the fossil fuel industry because the people that are
killing us. >> how can i find out if they are taking money from? >> i thank you can go into their campaign donation records of who gives the money. >> that's good to know i did not know that and also i don't know who is watching but if any of you are watching have stocks invest in stocks and make sure they are not in fossil fuels and try to make sure your school or church or university or city whatever institutions you are involved with stop the money pipeline many trillions of dollars of already been taken out of the
fossil fuel industry because of these efforts and it has to continue. >> have you been surprised of any pushback or support in the industry? >> i have not been surprised by pushback now. maybe i'm missing something but now. >> i had the privilege to be arrested during a fire drill friday i was able to be welcomed into the movement how do we stay focused without burning out when there are so many disasters like covid and racial justice on the top of literal fires. >> personally it is good to
look at this moment aren't i lucky to be alive that is so crucial the entire future of humankind is at stake i can now play a role to fight for the future a generational responsibility that we are lucky to have with every increase millions of lives of species will be lost so what a great responsibility we have to make a difference for ourselves and her species. so that's what i think with the fires and the protest they still need help and that was wonderful because of the diversity it is a terrifying
time, also i wouldn't want to miss it for the world and i'm glad i'm able to do something even if i cannot leave my home there is so much you can do we talk about it every friday and this book every chapter is a different aspect of the climate crisis it's called what can i do it's very user-friendly and practical so this has everything that we need to move forward the right way. >> problem solution, problem solution to connect that humanness for all of us i think that is what is so vitally important right now
how we are to the planet and to each other. >> you are talking like we are done. [laughter] >> we have five more minutes but i would like to talk about student loan - - civil disobedience lastly because there has been a lot of civil unrest and we have had the privilege of getting arrested because we did it for something we believed and aligned our values and our bodies your birthday is coming up in december last year your birthday you were arrested and spent the night in jail. what is the importance yes peaceful protest but also civil disobedience why is it
so important i know it is it right for a lot of us to do it for covid but why is it vitally important not just signing petitions to get our voices out there? >> history has shown civil disobedience is what works. it's not restart but for 40 years we petition and marched and protested and written articles and pleaded and have used all the leverage one - - levers that democracy makes available and we have not been heard sufficiently so the next step is civil disobedience gondi did it, martin luther king and all the wonderful kids that sat at the lunch counters to break the law saying but people can't say here that is civil disobedience and they were
beaten badly rosa parks when she refuses to sit in the back of the bus she was arrested breaking bad laws and willing to be arrested is what works historically and changes history it may be the only thing when we started fire drill fridays and i write about that in the book we were aiming for people to know there are a climate crisis is caused by humans but they don't know what to do. we offer them something to do and they started coming from all over the country and i say have you ever done this before? they were newbies and the yale project on climate communication says there are 15 million people in america who says they would do civil
disobedience by nobody has asked of them. so we have to go out and ask the un- asked to join us and it is a wonderful feeling to put your body in alignment with your values like stepping into authenticity and empowerment. >> it definitely transforms. thank you. i know everybody issue came and never have been arrested learned so much. we came back for more. it is so diverse. >> thank you so much. we are actually right on time. it is a miracle. [laughter] >> thank you and he and jane
for doing this. >> yes. all proceeds go to greenpeace. yes. consider that your donation it is one of those books that is imperative right now. i am so honored to have met you both here to talk about this pressing issue and thank you so much for everything you have done. >> thank you. thank you to all those that tuned in we appreciate your presence and your questions
>> january 20th, 2017, before that for most of that time i worked hard to defend the rights and liberties of the american citizenry to discuss their abuse to discuss that opportunity. is not just a question of policy differences but in terms of what they have done. and i wouldn't be speaking out it is his dishonesty and abuse
of the office of the presidency with that obligation. i was hoping when i retire for the second time january 2017 i would go off into the retirement sunset and not stir up any issues. but i cannot remain silent and then denigrate the intelligence community, the fbi and the professions, and just continues about reality. quite frankly i find it rather disappointing and surprising that they have spoken up and spoken out it is important for