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powell died of convocations due to covid-19 and is sad and ironic that a minute spent so much of his s life helping othe, anfrom danger again and then did from a common enemy, too many of our fellow citizens continue to deny this giving the virus and opportunity to replicate and wreak havoc. we are not each other's enemies, the viruses the enemy and today claimed the life of an american statesman. by this time tomorrow, will taken another 1500, americans, family members and neighbors anm heroes to many. especially for young children who can't get vaccinated yet and for the millions of americans with compromised immune systems, we have really got to increase our vaccination rates. washingt.
host: >> joining us for discussion on covid-19 related deaths and other related information in rural areas, right of your skin, the director of the role of policy research institute also joining us on the left, university bio public health research program director and other to both of you, thank you for giving us your time. >> described the work of the rural policy research institute particular when it comes to researching covid-19 related information. >> we call it the acronym has center for rural health policy analysis and we have been in tracking its covid-19 data since spring of 2020. needing to understand both initially what is a differential in terms of metropolitan and nonmetropolitan areas. now unfortunately since we been
living with the pandemic ever since also tracking over time, was happening in the two, it's been fascinating to watch in terms of data observation and discouraging in terms of the force in both areas dealt with the surges we've experienced this ring as we know, two most recent surges, to the rural areas harder and urban. >> we will pick up in there in his that you just released, deaths related to covid-19 in rural areas can you give us a snapshot of what was out pretty. >> what we really found was that people in my metropolitan areas are dying a faster rate than people in this was not an entirely surprised. the magnitude of the difference has been eye-opening to say the least but we have seen for over a year, the metropolitan areas have been hit worse for the
disease and instances in mortality you may recall that over a year and half ago in covid-19 for sentencing, mostly metropolitan phenomenon pretty back in march, february march of 2020, the news was right the stories with the new york city hospitals a home run a lack of supplies in space and facilities and such. i thought the whole world got this would be a largely metropolitan problem with and then in the second and third wave or phases, surges as well, governor of summer of 2020, the nonmetropolitan incidence and mortality over to this area and soso as teeth and said many tim, and fastur rule is not a refuge from this disease pretty. >> i have those are the facts coming out of winter studying for the causes are looking to
relate the causes two. >> part of it would be the initial clip from the metropolitan to nonmetropolitan had to do with in the earlier. already an efficient in terms of how rapidly they could spread and once it reached rural areas, spread very rapidly because there areas where people are much more in contact with one another the population is smaller. even though it's less dense, will interact more often. get a greater spread. and we seen over time. hotspots were there have been congregations of people initialing the first surge, it was related to the meatpacking industry and then related to things like where there were large trump stops on the interstate highways. now it's related to some of the
population characteristics of low income population, and entered under representative minority populations are much of rural america so that is what we have seen. overtime. >> you're with us until i 30 and he will ask this but this research the report says come out of the results, if you consider yourself living in or rural area want to get is called (202)748-0000 and urban (202)748-8001 and (202)748-8002 in you can also texas 2-202-748-8003. and you are non-core in your byearch and what's meant that and what is important to understand that. >> there's lots of different ways to slice this. depends on population density had published size and proximity
to large urban areas. what the different entities, defining urban and urban and pet metropolitan nonmetropolitan pretty some are small, their sparsely populated and we don't have a high population density and they don't have an economic relationship with a large urban areas of their or they are truly rural areas. >> just does have a couple of graphs, this is a graph of the mortality rates of the 70 moving average from this report that you can findd the website, and the university of iowa. that is your little bit of the trends and we also have a 70 moving average of mortality rates and when it comes to those hotspots and transmissions. i know that we usually cdc penny on the time of year whether, are they consistent with rural areas
or other variance there pretty. >> is been pretty consistent, we look for differences between what you referred to is non-core areas, very small cities. not a lot of variation between those and thereia is a little bt in the non-core tends to come out a little worse but for the most part micro pause and areas are small towns of a small cities, and non-core areas the rural areas seem to be tracking together closely.il while both of those are worse than mentors, and metropolitan areas, they run parallel. we see in the last year and increase in metropolitan cases we also see an increase in non- metropolitan cases. the running in parallel. >> as far as what you are saying a result side, could you tell us about those areas when it comes to vaccination rates whether
they have access to vaccine or interested in being vaccine or vaccinated in the first place. >> unfortunately the data does not really exist at the level we want and the kind of data that we really like to have. we don't know. i keep looking and i keep looking for data on vaccine hesitancy for that debt is published and tends not to single out small areas just to give us overuse of the united states as a those two looking a small nonmetropolitan areas. in terms of access, also not real sure, we know the providers are more scarce in rural areas. pharmacies are more scarce in rural areas hospitals and more in rural areas. honey get tell you what is actually driving it. effective vaccination rates in our metropolitan areas are lower than in the metropolitan areas
in general the weather's issue of access or hesitancy, we are frankly not sure it printed. >> yes the other thing that we can't quite detect is a pattern that holds up across all cases and if the weekend before because we follow this just like anyone else, but for think about on a case-by-case or state-by-state basis and we know there are examples of places with low vaccination rates and high mortality but there are also examples of the inverse, high vaccination rates and still higher death rate. so is very difficult to tease out what are the actual drivers behind it the overall difference that we see between metropolitan and non- metropolitan predict and to think of it as all hands on deck, all possible
explanations and deal with them one at a time and space you can reduce so that is where we see some of the policy initiatives and the actions groups civic groups, communities or i happen to be an active member of the national rural health association which has vaccination messaging campaign underway across the country. uninsurance is another variable that we know plays in 2000 people are reluctant to go in for care because they're afraid the cat in the building that has spilled over into going in to the vaccination although the messaging is the vaccine is free and they're still fearful that they will be charged for putting the start of the arm even if the medication is free so there's all kinds of factors that play in and to go back to what i said, the best strategy seems to
be that identify a factor that you can put data behind that make sense and deal with that factor and deal with as many of them as you can pretty. >> we have calls on it for you, let's start with catherine in michigan, living in a suburban area you are on. go ahead catherine. it. >> hi there gentlemen and good morning. this is interesting that you are studying all of this data. honey feel that we can keep ourselves safe, i mean, how do we do it in your saying you really don't have the data. the vaccinated areas, there still are people are still dying no matter where you live. so what is your concern as far as letting us know. what do you think. >> followed the advice of the
cdc. in other top scientists, the same thing frankly they've been saying for the last year and year and a half, wash her hands maintain a distance, each vaccination were a mask, doing the research and do all of those good things. >> and even if someone is vaccinated just give you a personal example, i still messed up when imp am going into public places. so that i don't become a spider because of that vaccine. there's so little uncertain about whether or not it spread so anything take whatever steps that again the cdc and others tells that we can take to deal with that. as communities i think it is important to give people into treatment early and symptoms do arise they been contact with people who tested positive to
get tested to try to deal with the symptoms early on these are ways of doing that as well. >> from craig in tulsa, oklahoma, you are on. guest: f, is a pleasure to be on the appreciate your work. first my condolences to general colin powell he was fully vaccinated but he dropped died of it and i think that we need to unify against covid-19 in this country, notify the between the vaccines but it is scientific fact you all can speak on this that if you are vaccine from we can still catch and spread covid-19. you can still die of it and if you're unvaccinated, you can still catch and spread it and die of it. people of natural immunity and beat it. nonthinking the probably the safest in their part of herd immunity which is not really announced very much printedce
transmission, i've seen this because the lease to keep you alive and lessens your symptoms but it doesn't stop you from spreading it so i hope the people unify not demonize either side this will help pretty. >> craig in oklahoma. >> and i agree. the point here is, when i go into public or a store or a small indoor gathering, i always mask up and trying to send a good message and morei than th, whatever a mask, so because of what i'm afraid of getting something from you, but i'm possibly not it spreader is not a lot of people start of the disease, they are presenting a symptomatically rated so i can have covid-19 right now. and i'm not wearing a mask so because i'm wearing mass, and
could be containing the covid-19 that i am carrying. so as a public service, i don't have to apologize to you for being a trade of something. >> and i like the colors message. everyone has a role to play in trying to divide and decided. that is not the way to deal with this. we deal with this personally and we deal with it as best we can in al. public sense as well. >> and you were talking about the data you collect and when the deaths related to covid-19, is there a way to separate in these rural areas strictly to covid-19 are those who have complications from it pretty. >> we don't have that level of data yet rated that will come out with a statistics data and it takes a while for vital statistics data that to mature. were very a concerned about when
in fact covid-19 is an, directly and people have died from it but the impact that covid-19 is at another causes with death as well. you may recall there have been stories about people care seeking behavior because they didn't want to go to the hospital because that's where covid-19 was they didn'tvi wanto leave the house because their concern about covid-19 so they didn't get their checkups of the regular healthcareth visits ratd so i would expect to see increases in the number of deaths are a variety of causes that were initially are primarily treatable. for which the treatment was delayed so i expect to see in large number of excess deaths and how that will play out versus on the urban rural continuum, i don't know yet. >> and the accountability office said whenus it comes where you n get care related too does they said they were hundred closures from genuine 2013 to
february 2020 the average inpatient care of 3.4 miles rural areas without about 24 miles, in 2018 and relate that to it you study as far as the ability does for somebody to get take care if they get covid-19 pretty. >> that's another important issue is do we have the infrastructure in place in healthcare delivery to handle as john said of a pandemic. and so were learning about that as we get through this one and one of the realities that i would like to point to his covid-19 has signed a bright light on what were already severe challenges being maintained the delivery of services you mentioned hospitals in particular hospital closures just as informing our healthcare personnel. there's a technical definition. and many of those are
concentrated disproportionately in rural america so is not a matter of the hospitals and even if you could have a hospital can you get the appropriate staffing and can handle a surgeon demanded like we are seeing the pandemic. so when the hospitals make a close, they may not have been in the immediate a woman people consult drive some distance to get care. you mentioned businesses enter distances him may have runun but also met we didn't have the capacity to deal with an increase in demand in that area. i would like to point to that, equally important to the ongoing situation and what we have seen the more positive side is a lot of collaboration across rural institutions all across the country. and so these institutions located at say in indiana that are in a radius of 150 miles of each other would actually it together probably virtually over
the last 20 months and think about where can we have the search in a hospital that means that we have to divert how quickly can we get somebody to your hospitals not necessarily moving into a hospital to an urban hospital, can be from rural to rural and so when learning how to deal with systemic longer time challenge, are also learning how important it is to come face-to-face with that challenge and do what we can to maintain hospital services in rural america pretty. >> our next call is from illinois. guest: hello, good morning. i wanted to say i hang around with farmers and routinely and i can tell you there are three reasons these rural places are having this covid-19 incident
rise, a, lack of education. if you have no undergraduate degree, you are more likely, is my analysis, more likely not to get the vaccine.in number two, is in these rural areas, most people listen to news media and podcasts, that is an misinformation regarding the disease. number three, is the people who come on the televisions, those so-called doctors, the really not specialist infectious diseases. or epidemiology, they or any doctor. you would not go to a surgeon and ask advice of covid-19. you would notd go to a dentist
some advice covid-19 rated their people coming on television and associations to and communities who are doctors who are on infectious disease on epidemiologist pretty. >> okay color, thank you very much. go ahead. >> is right, and to be up front, i'm not an epidemiologist or physician and are not infectious disease specialist. thee data analyst and policy analyst looking at the data. with with the doctor but we agree with this part of the issue date relays with the color said, it is the messaging has beener pretty makes from the vey beginning. and had there been a unified front of justices going to be about they and yes we do need to deal with it and we need to take it seriously. we probably would not have the conundrums that we have now rated the only message was this
is not going to be any worse than the fluor is going to go a way all by itself and i think that really sort of march this often a really bad foot. boys were trying to recover for not a good job of recovering. people really get it hearing what they want to hear first grade in their holding onto that idea real tightly rated not letting itha go so the message that came out 20 months ago, still resonates with an awful lot of people. >> the color pointed to who havd messenger is and how you reach the rural population just like trying to reach the inner cities, stricter than trying trying to reach the people who live in the suburbs and reaching people live in rural montana is different than reaching people who live inn rural illinois. and into the messenger is in this going and trent one of the meant pension issues that i mentioned about the underinsured and they're not going into proper relationship with a
clinical provider that is void and we have to design and figure out how tovo feel that so that e can get the message to the individuals. >> this hear from dave and jeff from new york. ... ... what it is they did and how they did it so that we can do the same to prepare for the next pandemic. and may be the end of this one pair we are not over this one by a longshot. one of the things i have
learned as i put a proposal out to the president and took congress writing letters with the proposal of what i believe we could do toit learn from people who have done well with this. it seems to me we could learn the lesson we have capacity and trust. if we don't have it both those we cannot do well. now, the way we can do it as americans is going to be different because we have a political system is a diverse opinions and the problem we have is the political branches that don't have an incentive to find a long term project that was always going to be
prepared and distributed in every community resource adequately in accordance with the hhs pandemic preparedness plan and the local preparedness plan. someone called you put a lot of out there for a guessable letter cast respond go ahead. quick to point to the importance of having preparedness plans a well designed and then acting quickly to implement those approved done a lot 911 we put a lot of investment working to implement them. one of the weaknesses id they need sustainable funding over time to continuously update the plan to be ready to act based on that plan we met mentioning without the
consistent resource support it's very difficult. >> this is a record, rick in maine good morning. >> caller: good morning to you. one of the things that absently baffles me is every weekendf there are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of screaming fans in the stands yet we don't have about any and massive outbreaks of the virus. are we supposed to assume every one of these people have beenef vaccinated or have passed a test before they're allowed to go into the sports arenas? i am baffled, thank you very much. rex idd don't think you are
befuddled and is yours alone. we saw a report from one of our colleagues earlier this week, last week we talked about the same issue. it appears because they are outdoors where there is an abundancend of fresh air and possibly a breeze the infection rate seems to be relativelyed low. i have not looked at it specifically and i'm not an infectious disease specialist i'm just reporting what i heard from one of my esteemed colleagues and her explanation it does not seem and this is by no means if you have been resisting going to a football game then continued to resist. but it does not appear these have become a vector for disease spread. cracks in it may be outdoor one of the interesting from a researcher perspective to look at the difference between that kind of events in the event that may be outdoors but people gravitate to
entertainment venues et cetera thinking specifically of the event the kurds in sturgis, south dakota brutus recently in that state there is seeing a bit of a ripple surge after the latest event there. but that event outdoors people gravitate indoors for food and drink. that is where the spread probably happened. do what you can rely on dinner talk anecdotally as far as getting pair one of the discussions withal rural areas of the telemedicine dependence on that. what kind of factorsd did those play for rural areas need help once i get covid? >> significant impact. you want to be able to consult with the appropriate specialists early on. i kept mentioning the importance with any disease
and getting it early and treating it early. we rely a lot on telecommunication telemedicine to do that. in the absence of broadband doesn't play a role in how we access care individually plays a role what we can do. >> host: go to george in miami, florida. go ahead your own with our guests good morning. >> did they use beetle from aborted babies to make the vaccine? >> i am not a disease specialist or an immunologist i cannot comment on that. quick same here i cannot either. >> we've got about ten minutes about eight minutes with our guests are going to call and ask questions aboutti the research into rural areas. when it comes to the data themselves gentlemen what data do you rely on and how do you
put faith and accuracy in the day did you use? >> we have been relying fairly heavily on the jon hopkins a data for our mortality and disease incidence data. we have youed some cdc data to look at vaccines primarily because that is the one source they cane get is the data at the level wee want. again there are lots of places putting out surveys or what not to take a look at state level data or national polls. our interest is on non- metropolitan or rural areas. we have to have dated that's been recorded at the county level. initially we relied on another independent source fore using initially usa fax.org. they're the first place i found that would provide me that level of data. after a while we decided jon hopkins will be preferable but seemed to be the go to data source for this kind of
information. i would like to be able to use other data sources but data is expensive. data is hard to do. again part of the messaging reasonable and good data collection early in the process which is why we have to go to a university or we have to go to a private organization is settable we would normally go is a cdc. that iswe changing and now it might be able to the back to them as our data source. we have every reason to believe the data we see is a good and reasonable good faith effort but data collection but we have no reason to believe there's an agenda nus misguiding the information. >> host: this is kristine good morning. >> good morning. i was calling, i do not understand when the covid it started appear in northeast and the people or dying and
they had the information, they saw what was going on, our governor was on daily to give us information and i just do not understand why the politicians with the propaganda on fox news and all of these otherer channels is causing for this is a pandemic i lost three family members. so please, listen to the science. >> guest: sorry for your wlosses. and what she said listen to the science. >> host: from houston texas i hello. >> caller: hi, i am curious about if we have seen from any college football games i've seen a couple of events where there's thousands of students rushing the field in pretty close proximity. and of course the sturgis
event i'm sure people congregate indoors at the concessions quite a bit part of one of you seen any correlation between football games as well? >> we do not have any datagl that allows us to single that out pretty gently dated we are working with this at the county level. an event like that would probably occur in a much more interesting fashion would not be isolated to a particular location. at the university of iowa, people from all over the state come into the stadium. so it would not necessarily show up. again, unfortunately i go where the datael tells me i do not have data thatta would let me answer that. >> host: order community themselves doing to bring the pandemic under control what kind of strategies are they trying? >> guest: i goie back to what i said earlier about all hands on deck to write means that you can think of. so, providing access to testing so people do come in
contact or think they have they can get the test readily at no cost to themselves, providing access to masks for people who prefer to wear them no matter what the regulatory policy happens to be, both of us have mention our desire to stay messed up. helping with information. a lot of this conversation this morning from the callers and from us has been about what is the message that gets through and how does it get through. at the community level thinking about who do people trust, working with large employers and community even without the presence of the vaccine mandate that has been happeningnt around the country so that those employers are working with their employees and making it easy for people to one, get tested. two, get vaccinated. any reason or barrier we can think of that we can take it
down thattr is the strategy in a lot off local ways of doing that. it's probably most effectively done one locality at a time where you understand the population in that area and what kind of messaging would get through to them and what kind of help they need. >> host: here is a bob in michigan hello. >> caller: yes. i would like to talk a little bit about who does not get vaccinated in ruralra areas. i live in a rural area, but it's relatively close, within 20 miles of a larger urban area. most of rural people tend to work in urban areas. even the farmers any large also can consider it urban the land is.
but where folks live, they are in contact constantly 24-mile drive to a hospital is no big drive in rural america. i'm not talking about the middle of western nebraska but where most people live. and it is political it is purely political. not political in the sense of one or two political parties. this y is a willingness to die for some absurd theory. i am telling you the way it is where i live. they may vote a certain political party but they may not vote at all. this is an attitude that is almost impossible to stop and eight note my son-in-law died a month ago of this. >> guest: i'm very sorry for
your loss, bob. it does come down to attitude but attitude is influenced by a lot of different things by sense of isolation by sense of empowerment, by a lack of appropriate sources. again i don't think as keith has repeated multiple times were not going to find a button to push push that's going to fix this is going to take multiple messengers. stuart with both theho grand lessons learned of what we've applied so far in the future fighting against pandemic in rural areas particularly. >> guest: if i could answer that with it good, informed, intelligent answer i would not be working for him. it is going to be difficult. we are not done with this yet. we've seen in the last couple
of weeks both incidence and mortality rates are on the way down but they're both still shockingly high. we are not through this and there's no reason to believe we won't see some variant or some change in the next few months is not going to send us to the roof again. i hate to say this or maybe were relatively early to figure out what lessons we have learned from this and supportia for public health infrastructure from the local level, to the state level, to the national level. and turning to thenf infrastructure as early as possible of me thanks something is even coming so we are more prepared when it gets here. the second is a similar one and that is continuing to
invest in access to services in rural america. you mention hospital closures earlier in our conversation. i talked about healthcare professionalsof and the importance of maintaining a presence in rural america. linked to both is the use of technology through telehealth make sure that's available. what you doing with the healthcare system make sure people in rural america you connect to the people in rule america as we should everywhere. >> the director of the rural policy research institute with the college of public health research program director both you gentlemen thanks for the conversation this morning
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>> thank you hello. >> what prompted this poll? >> we take a poll every year of a governance survey. we have a whole series of polls with a one a month on a different topic throughout the year. i s was doing this in 2000 so september we have all about government, what americans think about government power federal, state, local on their performance and soap big white great trends updating year after year. to one of the specific questions about the role of government ass far as it was doing too much, 52% of those respondents say that t was the case. 43% government needs to do more to solve problems and comparing that to 2020 with 43% wanted the government to do more to solve problems or those of the numbers give us the context of those results. >> guest: great.
we get people three options would you rather have more government services if it meant more taxes, less government services in order to reduce taxes or keeping status quo. this we have not asked every but we ask it periodically the largest response is always a preference for less services and reduce taxes. but last or that kind of dippedha to 42% of been 56% earlier in the decade. during the pandemic number see your go in september with the final months of the trump administration, pre-vaccine being rolled out still in deep lockdown. at that time only 42% wanted less government kind of a record high 25% wanted more government even if it meant more taxes. this year we've coming back a little bit towards normal with 50% saying we want 50% less government and less taxes.
in the% wanting more government and more taxes goes on to 19%. >> host: on the other questions you ask about the government having too much power shall show the result that question posed amongst republicans, independence endemic is 82% say they setup the government had too much power. compared to 59% of independence in 19%pa of democrats. adding to that 63% of democrats and government has the right amount of power. again, as far as context how to those numbers compare to previous ones taking on these kind of questions? those a question we do not see changes overall in attitude. there's not been a change typically the government has too much power there's been a huge change by party as you can imagine. so republicans typically are the ones that think the
government has too much power there like a to think that when there's republican in office last year 61% of republicans said government has too much power. the shirt zoomed up to 82%. 82% of what they were saying during the obama years that the typical attitude for republicans. democrats at leicester, 51% said the government had too much power that was during a republican presidency. that plunged in 19% this year. what's interesting about that in the context of everything happening in washington now with this infrastructure spending is that 19% among democrats is a super record low. even lower than the percentages seen during the obama years. so democrats obviously and more of a growth mode of government right now. >> host: you also asked what governments does verse those kind of things could be done by either individuals or
businesses, can you give us context into those findings? >> guest: yes this is a trend expected 1992. didn't the government is doing too many things that should be left toou individuals and businesses to do? esor should it be doing more to solve the country's problems. these attitudes have waxed and waned over the years with circumstances in the country and the presidency whether it's republican, democrat and how active they are. stand so last year we saw one of the rare times half or more of americans said they want to see the government doing more so is 54% last year this year it's fallback to 43% which is a little more typical of recent years. again there's huge party differences on that. 80% of republicans i think the government's doing too much on the 18% of democrats. >> host: as far as this poll is concerned any interesting
things you've found other than the questions we talked about? >> well, just that there is this as i said that the tide that affects everyone with the circumstance of the country whether it's pandemic or recession, and so public demand for government changes a bit. but it changes so much by party there are two factions going on they are not is pulled bipartisanship. on that basis attitudes have been s pretty steady with questions across time except for last year when independence clearly showed more desire for government than they usually do. this year it is sprung back to normal. >> the u.s. social research director for gallup who just took this poll you can find the results online talking about people's perception of it produced government role.
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hearings at 10:00 a.m. eastern live on c-span three. attorney general merrick garland make his first appearance for the house judiciary committee on issues facing the justice department. at 10:00 a.m. eastern live on c-span.org and on the new c-span now app. homeland security secretary will appear before the senate judiciary committee. watch this week on c-span network. or you can watch a full coverage on c-span now our new video app. also head on over too c-span.org for scheduling information or to stream video live or on-demand any time. c-span your under unfiltered view of government. ♪ ♪ download c-span new mobile app and stay up-to-date with live video coverage of the day's political events from live streams of the house and senate floor and key congressional hearings. the white house advancing supreme court oral arguments
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