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tv   After Words Sen. Elizabeth Warren Persist  CSPAN  December 14, 2021 1:14am-2:12am EST

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>> thank you for being here. i have read your book. and i'm wondering if we could talk a little bit about you have written a number of political books in your career
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but you approach this one very differently. so just talked about what you are trying to achieve. > so the way it was created to create immediacy. and then we had a record on —- a reckoning and an insurrection in the new president elected by more than 7 million vote margin. and we have already passed the largest relief package in our history. and with all the chaos and
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it's time for us to make a decision. and how they persist for those changes. so this book is in six parts. a mother, a teacher, a planner and a fighter. and then i tell the stories so touch me and very personally and from that personal engagement policy into those
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policies that will shape our future. it's about the 100 next one —- the next 100 days. it's what we do next. >> i really do love that i'm very happy and then as a fighter. >> but you really talk about yourself as a mother and a teacher and with four other people on the campaign trail and during the 2020 primaries attack about your decision to highlight. because those moments to have
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a introspective of their life. >> so there is a little bit of a story here. so talk about being a teacher and what it is like in the classroom. and as a special education teacher i got pregnant and then i got fired sway ended up teaching much taller people. and then i was teaching tall people in law school so i saw a class and what it was about
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and to t tell a story. and in my a bankruptcy classes and then one was a socratic teacher. another was a hard-core socratic teacher. but it is always about pushing through questions to connect the pieces to stretch their thinking and how to do that analysis. and so to have an explanation of the demonstration and that turns out to be katie porter's class. and thenn in fact i did not send it to her.
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and not only talk about those particular exchanges and those that have gone on to do. and what i see as the heart of teaching to invest in the future. with the i classroom. it's all about the students. and that they can do over time. and then to move into the
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question that is your going to build a strong and robust future you need a educated workforce. it will go into the 21st century. >> so talk about the investments and those that we fail to make in educating young people. so it becomes a day part of policy and then gives a chance to talk about the people who cochaired the presidential campaign and one of the three women who cochaired she was a
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farm girl before she became a congresswoman from california. and god bless m her. talked about why she was in this fight. and then to go want to do quite well and now one that is secretary van holland. so to peel back the curtain and talk about the inner process if they go to washington for meetings and you talked about this meeting but then it is a meaningful exchange because that was a good story i thought. >> but i have been invited and
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then as a guest speaker one who iss running for congress. if she wins she will be the first as it turns out the native american woman to be elected to congress. and so we have talked on the phone. and then with that background generally as an organizer so people from all the different groups that have an interest. and with those groups and
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rotary unions and those representatives are in the space that is way too small. it is obviously pre- covid. i think about this in retrospect and then to cram together and then it everybody then they scratch back a little bit to create a space is just like baseball. only in this case everybody is throwing fastballs to the multiple pictures but the
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battery is dead and is not now just coming from the patients but everywhere. so where you are on a technical part of the military budget and to be on federal lands. so that didn't cut it. and it's important for the person to answer the questions quite frankly and then just to show you can be somebody that can run a big competitive campaign because what will happen after this meeting after you go back to your perspective groups and then save got to be kidding me or you have to say we want in.
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so now she is hitting good solid policy shots and then she had a question about child care. now she's not the labor organizer. it's almost like she is transported back in time and when she graduated from school very pregnant, had a baby and did not go straight to college she got a job after high school she made the decision to go back to college she graduates and has a tiny little baby and then to be
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independent then to take care of this little baby daughter. and then not having childcare and not being able to afford child care and then to talk about the periods in her life it was her friends who helped to keep k her fed and she talks about she and her daughter in preschool as a child gets older and could not afford it. but it was a great experience
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but everything she does she brings her baby and then decides she wants him to have the same experience other ones are having with the preschool three k so she goes to a place and she declares the cleaning lady so she can get her daughter enrolled because she universalt the child care in america. it's available for every mother to finish her education weca need childcare for every baby and every child care
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worker to raise the wages of preschool teachers. but then i got my heart to your heart. it's personal to you the same way it is personal to me run this race and the race after that and after that and she did and when i put together my a child care bill my cosponsor no surprise was deb holland and i think of this to have that chance to fight for things that are personal.
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>> it is a very moving story to hear that connection that you have with her. how is that going? >> so lastly the president of the united states addressed the nation whatt did he talked about? we have to get the country going we will be in it and that means infrastructure roads and bridges and communication and we need childcare. and i really do think of this as child care. and infrastructure with roads and bridges and the caregiving
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economy. but if we want people then we have a child care crisis before the pandemic came and now that hass wiped out millions of women who have lost their jobs they tried to work from home and those that are trying to work part-time that could not take on promotions. and without better childcare what are the consequences of this pandemic and then to setback millions of women? not just for the year or two that into retirement? we have to change that. so that is a good news. the president has already said
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$425 billion for childcare and early childhood education. but let's beuc clear. they are related to each other and deeply intertwined so now my job i think it will take about 700 billion over ten years insa order to get universal child care. high quality available because half of america is living in a childcare desert. and affordable. it cost more than one year at public university. so wee will make this investment that's of this country should be about. real a opportunities for everyone moms and daddy's and babies and childcare workers.
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>> one word that is associated with you but it came from the area that leader mcconnell speaking on the senate floor so have you ever talked to mcconnell about that moment? and his decision and that he was upset you were concerned for that norman nevertheless she persisted. >> i was reading coretta scott king's letter to the senate
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judiciary committee about jeff sessions when the senate was debating whether or not the sitting senator should be confirmed as attorney general of the united states. and then to e exchange pleasantries. >> what would you say just sit down and talk about that moment? >> to think about when i was trying to do. i was reading a letter that coretta scott king had written about jeff sessions talking about what it b had been light on —- what it had been like as the us attorney in alabama.
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and to talk about how he frightened black voters how in her view he should not be trusted with the federal judgeship talking about that moment. i couldn't think of a more relevant piece of evidence to bring forward of the question of jeff sessions and attorney general the number one law enforcement officer in our nation to hear directly from caretta scott king on —- coretta scott king how he treated people of color and
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our basic democracy. and for rich mcconnell to decide of all the things, and that, her letter was the thing that must be stopped when he moved to have me expelled from the senate. not just go sit down for a little while. not just a l timeout. was actually barred from the floor of the senate so long as debate on sessions went forward. i could not come back until the debate was over and they went onn to the next topic and
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to me it was a huge warning and then where donald trump is president and which on —- mitch mcconnell embracing the racism and the hatefulness and then to be on the floor of the senate. it was so wrong and to this day i feel it was wrong it was very wrong. >> i did not stay down. did anybody else?
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i ran for president but the nevertheless she persisted tattoos. and that's it. that will be turned into a tattoo. >> not a penny. >> so one of the things about this book was that you were grappling with gender and with the presidential campaign so throughout your life so there
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is one section that you write about with the democratic senators but then with others and then to talk about over the weekend and then we all comment on it. sote let me just read it to you. >> it is a moment where you are thinking about getting into the democratic primary and they decided that you would do it and that you are thinking about what it would take and what it would look like then you write i would do
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more and with my determination sounding the callos to fight against some of the most powerful people and corporations in the nation. also to tell stories and then with the mothers and grandmothers other ideas and energy and i would help me being a woman would not matter so much and please please i would show everyone that a woman could win. >> but also being a policy
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wonk and a fighter and also a teacher and a mother. and for being a planner. all of that. and what i brought to their primary and to the general if i can make it that far into the president of the united states. and that's what i did and gave it everything i had. >> do you think in some ways regarding sexism? >> it's not that i thought
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about that. may be that the way that i ithought about it is that the elections were so monumental and so it on —- powerfully important and then i needed to bring everything that i can bring. and ultimately you know what i did that glorious interesting detailed and those plans and where weri could go forward to build in america. and with the giant corporations and then to build in america is about all of our kids and all of us.
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>> i put it all out there. for over 14 minutes i had to get out there and get on stage in front of a crowd and a high school auditorium or in front of 20000 people to make the argument and make the fight to say this is where we can be and to ask people to join me and help make this happen. >> joy and late-night and then with bernie sanders. and it's quite stunning to
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see. and then to say that when you tell the story before but so many women right now in this moment have reckoned with what existed in the culture but those exchanges that they have had with men are that they interact with and then like to be the uncountable exchange with university of houston as a law professor. and then reading about and then as you talk about as 40 uyears ago in the one long-term
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impact it is not discussed as much so then to talk a little bit about that. here you are and one of the nation's brightest bankruptcy lawyers and then to have this very uncomfortable exchange. >> sosp starting at the beginning when i started there were very many women teaching in law school. there were some but not very many. i did not have a fancy diploma
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i love my law school that it was not putting a lot of people into teaching and it was hard for me to get that first teaching job. but he was the person who hired me and i am so excited i had that job. and i worked hard to manage a classroom and how to manage politics but it was a real test but everyone was getting tenure. and then they have a one-time
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appointment or if you didn't that there is no alternative and that person that hired me had a retainer committee. so he came to my classes. he drop in my office what he said about me and how he described to me was hugely important how the faculty would see me. at least that is certainly what i believed. and i tell the story one day he called me into his office and then with those inappropriate remarks and ultimately ended up chasing me around the table.
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the question was never if i could out run him but power as it is for so many women. and going back to my office i'm not sure what happened next but then he shows up and what would he d say about me that i just demonstrate that i don't know how to take a joke? fill in the blank. and then another faculty member and they said don't tell anyone. this would not and well. and never said anything publicly. i didn't go to hr. it really didn't even cross my mind.
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he still came to my class. but then when i left the university of houston i got a job offer from university of texas, he called me. his nickname for me was she walls. >> was he referring to that moment? >> i don't know. >> after the moment? >> he would call and my heart would raise. and i would make it to the phonee conversation. somewhere someone would mention and i talked to him
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back at the university of houston and he said you're a great scholar. that is great. but that they had harassed or molested but as far as a know he always said nice things about me that in the back of your brain you know that he has power. more power than you have and he still has it. and then my heart did not recently more one day. i got stronger at what i did.
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and then he called me and said he was dying. i started to make one —- a started to be sympathetic he had done mean jean persona. he said he wanted me to speak at his funeral. i n said no and is that i will talk about what happened and he laughed. so i did speak at his funeral i told the funny stand up he doesn't have power over me
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and then about 20 years after it had happened but then 20 years later the #metoo movement takes off in a tell the story again not for me, but for everyve other person efor someone who tries to exercise power over them like that. and then we persist. >> so in this day and age. and then to see something or just to fight back is there an element?
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>> getting things have changed. that that if you do get a friend to help you. then youwe are 40 years ago. but it is hard. and then to assert that through their own circumstances. is not about sex. and what i tried to do by putting it out there is to say you don't have to be a victim forever. you can get some power.
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you can stand up if it takes 20 years but you can do this. >> with that incident that happens there can be a lingering even if they were never say anything about you there is still a reminder out there. and then to be continue to be abuse. >> but then the point i try to make in the book about persistence and that should mitch mcconnell get a penalty because he did that. but he put the word on it.
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but that's what i talk about in the book is that predated my time in the senate and you have that persistence over time to shape who we are and also shapes the power that we have. you are right this is different than from what we have written before is very much a story common optimistic story and a loving story. of how much strength and power that we have. >> and then with the primary process that you layout and i
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found it with these cauldron of ideas and then even if you are doing well. and i was quite struck the way you had that exchange and picking up plans for the competitors.s. and i never understood how that works. so tell about your decision to do that and how are people?
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and then to go and stay in your entire political? but then even with castro. >> that is terrific claim a child care among other things. and with disability rights. and that ought to do about bankruptcy. but then the very next day. and then a chance to put out a lot of ideas. and the chance to show the nation that was possible.
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and then to think about the differences we could make with every single one of them. and then how to combat climate change he did have some good ideas. i know how castro felt. and when joe biden called me and said i went to pick that up so that this process house running forso office and the good that can come out of it. and then to roll forward.
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and then choose childcare during his address to the nation. i am readyn to go. the primary can be contentious. >> that all in the same direction we are all pushing to the same kind of goal. and then they told me i could. >> yes. gifted. that is the word for it. >> you're the mentioned you spoke with joe biden. but have your conversations
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been like since then? have you been in touch with him throughout the general election? and now that he is president? i don't like to talk about private conversations but he is in this moment. in 2020 for the general election and with those about child care and build back better and taxing the rich singe thing he made clear promises to have a strong enough government to meet the
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problems the nation faced. he contrasted in my view his self with donald trump along the dimension of saying he would be a competent president. i do not mean that as anything other than the best complement given where donald trump had been. that he would take seriously the active governing and the problems america faces when they require big solutions and he would not be afraid of big solutions. think about that promise he made early on that he would deliver 100 million vaccines in the first 100 days. as we know he shot through that and then some. but it was the promise early on. i always read it as not just about covid it's about a
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statement to america that you will have a government that is on your side, that understands the scope of the problems and will come up with solutions that are practical and that will actually fix the problems. >> host: how long do you think the window is? you write in your book, actually moving forward you say we have a once in a generation moment to do something new. how long does that window last? how long is that moment? >> guest: i do not know the number of days. but i do know this, we have to deliver. we have to deliver. we have to deliver partly because it made promises as democrats in 2018 and 2020.
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we've got to attack climate change head-on this is existential threats. we want to have a productive economy that we disperse upper infrastructure. we need to make serious repairs and we need to make set women and mamas can make it back into the workforce. we need to get moving now. we cannot let this drag out. we need to show the energy and make it happen. and frankly this is a good place where we are. i thought we did run the rescue package was exactly right. he said here's how big the problem is. republicans come on income it tells of you want to add other parts of the problem every think we got some part of this wrong. and here's how big the solution is to fix that
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problem. republicans came in and said no they did not want a big enough solution. when joe biden said look, democrats, republicans and independents all around the nation want to see us take the steps. went to see this rescue package. i declare that bipartisan. now we are going to go forward. and he did. we need to do the same thing on this next round of packages. we have a chance not just to repair our crumbling roads and bridges which lord knows we need to do that. if a chance to expand broadband which means more parts of the country and small businesses can be online. and we need to include childcare and eldercare we need that acknowledgment that for people to be able to work,
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what's happening at home matters. and if we can make that click it's going to make a difference with generations and generations to come. we went as put out it's not guaranteed. trying to track republicans are helping to a smaller package. these promises are not kept legislative agenda would you run again? >> guest: joe biden is running for reelection. my job is to help them succeed as president. >> host: it's off the table? >> guest: yes. right now my focus is on the
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next 100 days. we have so much we can and should be doing in this infrastructure package, in this caregiving package. we talk about today in s1 and hr-1 protective voting and root out corruption. we also have police reform that we need to get through. and president biden charge congress with getting this done the death of george floyd. and he is right. these are the things that are urgent and upon us. and we have momentum, why give it up. i guess mitch mcconnell was a slow stone, slows down, slows down. the country needs is the country is behind it.
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it's one of those things that is so interesting to me. all this talk about labels and the progressives and so on. but the truth is that progressive rescue package that joe biden led in congress passed, it's really popular. and the pieces of the infrastructure plan and the childcare plan, and a wealth tax those things are really, really popular as well. so it seems to me the folks who are out of step here are the elected republicans in washington not republicans across the nation but the guys in washington. and joe biden, my job as a senator his job as president to do the things the american people need us to do and want
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us to do. and do it now. so what i was running of time from one last question for you. that comes from my father spoke closely over there he was struck as many americans were the first watch having. [inaudible] , hundreds and hundreds of people thousands of people did he ever nip anybody question expect note not bailey. i do it to make clear he shed on a lot of people. and his kisses are pretty slobbery sometimes, but he is
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a good boy he is a good boy. rick thank you very much senator warren i reallyvant guet
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