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tv   U.S. Senate Sens. Cornyn and Klobuchar on Gun Legislation  CSPAN  June 15, 2022 1:52am-2:12am EDT

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go to the bathroom i will not go i promise you i will stand here behind the black pigs. >> presidential recordings find it on the mobile app that includes mental health and school safety and also speaking about benefits and russia's trawlers places around the country and over the last few weeks i have been working in particular was senator murphy and senator sinema on mental health and school safety reform.
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and we have narrowed the scope of our discussions now for principles of bipartisan legislation ten republicans and ten democrats arrange of terry. longest reforms to keep our communities safe and mental health resources and funding the hardened schools to make them are safe but people dangerous individuals. part of the work we have done
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so far better course we are not at the finish line. we are still when it comes to drafting appropriate text. is based on principles alone to translate into legislative languages no easy task as members of the senate understand. here's an example of the details that need to be ironed out. one of the big pieces of the bill relates to state crisis intervention programs. the idea is simple. support programs that reduce violence, protect the public and help individuals in crisis get the help they need. there are number of different ways this provision could be drafted and i'm committed to ensuring we get it done right. i want to be clear that what we're producing would have a
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green no-fly lost some see that as a percentage but that is something i am amy to avoid and have decidedth to pass red flag laws. but that is fewer than half of those with red flag laws on the books. congress should not only send federal funding to the states but also other states that are doing things tose do with people in crisis what we are focused on is crisis and revision. there are a number of different ways this can be but
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then to increase safety mason ford and if the state does want to implement a red five law they should not do so unless they then to keep communities
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safe one great example is the assisted out eight oh omicron short it allows courts to order people serious mental is elements to receive outpatient treatment as a condition of living in the community and she can be life-changing programs very from state to state and t has relied on evidence-based treatments plans that we passed a lot of
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that only 16 states will be eligible and only if you pass the red flag law. that would almost be like trying to commandeer the states legislature and government and force them to accept something they decided not to do. because maybe they tried to do something little differently like assisted outpatient treatment or mental health courts which have been very state and veterans courts and in particular focusing on the veterans community who have particular challenges. talking about assisted outpatient treatment 47 states actually have those laws. and the money to be available
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to be used for that. i don't support any prescriptive mandates including a national red flag. and then to the best way it sees fit in a mental health crisis or to provide other resources like assisted outpatient treatment or mental health court orra adjudication in order to help them address their challenges. the great thing we have a national government but sovereign states but actually makes plenty of sense that we learn from the experience of the states of the past and those that have passed other types of ways to address people requiring crisis
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intervention this is the ability to innovate and try new ideas and to come up with best practices the federalng government simply cannot do when you consider legislating for country 330 million people. and that which favors the few states i will not support any grant program that violates the constitution so i do believe there are a range of options to improve public safety, and the states should have the funding and flexibility to invest in programs that they think best delivers the result to save lives, to help people in crisis, and that's really what we're trying to do with this legislation. so the details are still being worked out, mr. president, and we're drafting legislative text.
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of course that's sometimes hard. sometimes i've found that people use the same word, and they mean something differently by it, or they come to it with a sort of context that maybe isn't apparent from a conversation about principles. and that's why going from the principles that 20 of us have agreed on into legislative text that we can then vote on and pass is a challenge. we know that on a sensitive topic like this, a single word or the placement of a comma can make the difference between protecting and infringing on rights. so i'm laser focused on drafting text that reflects the commonsense targeted proposal that we've agreed to in principle. again, we're working through the details, and i hope we will have legislative text later this week. but i'm not willing to rush it for the sake of speed. i spoke with senator schumer, the majority leader, this morning, and he said he'd like
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to have this bill ready to vote on next week, and i'm certainly with him in terms of that aspirational goal. that means we're going to have to complete our work on the text by the end of this week so senator schumer will have that legislation available to take up next week. mr. president, i yield the floor, and i'd note the absence of a quorum. a senator: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from minnesota. ms. klobuchar: thank you, senator cornyn, for the work you're doing and working with senator murphy and so many other senators. you and i have done so many bills together, including the historic save our stages bill, which made such a difference. and i am very pleased that we are finally advancing gun safety legislation, and a lot of these provisions are things that we have been working across the aisle on for many years. the boyfriend loophole,
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something that i introduced in 2013, mr. president, ten years ago, to close the boyfriend loophole. that is a part of this negotiation, part of the framework. we have so many women killed, one every 14 hours from domestic partners. one every 14 hours from domestic partners with guns in this country. and sadly, half of those involve dating partners, people who aren't married to someone but they're in a romantic relationship with them in some way. and the way the law works in all but 19 states where it is fully closed, in many of these states, you get convicted -- convicted of domestic abuse, and you can still go out and buy a gun the next day. so i am pleased that we are moving forward on this provision. this isn't the first time we heard the call to action from
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america when it comes to guns. we heard it after 23 people were killed at wal-mart in el paso, after 17 people were killed at marjory stoneman douglass school in parkland. after 39 people were killed at a country -- 59 people were killed at a country music fes val and -- festival. and 49 people killed at the pulse nightclub in orlando. today we hear calls for action because of more tragedies, a white supremacist murdering ten people who were simply shopping for groceries. one guy out buying a cake for his little boy, a birthday cake for his son, who never returned. ten people killed. the american people are demanding we do something after the senseless murder of 19 children and two teachers who died putting their very lives up
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to protect those children in uvalde, texas. we've seen the pictures of those kids in their confirmation communion dresses, in their sports uniforms, the converse green seekers, the smiles, in some they were holding awards they won that morning. but today, after too many of these tragedies to name, i rise with renewed hope that we are finally working together to help keep americans safe from gun violence. while there is so much more work to be done, the reforms outlined in the bipartisan framework, liken couraging states to enact risk protection orders, also known as red flag laws, expanding access to mental health services and supporting school violent prevention. senator grassley and i led that bill after parkland for significant funding for schools. clearly more must be done.
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as i noted, i am particularly pleased to see that the framework that will include my bill to close the boyfriend loophole. six million american women are killed on their partners many we focus on the mass shootings, but think of those numbers, 600 women shot every year from intimate partners. we know that preventing convicted domestic abusers from getting guns saves lives many we know that because we've seen the numbers in the states that have the laws in place. currently federal law only prohibits domestic abusers from buying a gun if they are currently or formerly married. think about that. currently or formerly married. or if they ever lived together or have a child. that is despite the fact, as i noted, that half of these
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homicides, half of the women killed are killed by dating partners. that's why in 2013, i introduced this bill to close this dangerous loophole and now i am so pleased that there is growing bipartisan support for the bill. by the way, we've shown that support in the past. it was part of the violence against women act that passed in the house and it had 29 republicans vote for it, and that included an even more broad version of the bill, which also included stalking and what is broader in this bill. obviously i support my original bill, but the fact that we are making progress to close the loophole in the states that so far have not gotten to where the other 19 are is incredibly positive. it did not pass last time when we passed the violence against women act in the senate. sadly it didn't make it in
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there, but, again, it got 29 republican votes in the house and that shows the growing momentum we have for this. so i come from a state, mr. president, with a proud tradition of hunting and fishing, like yours, i always think of my uncle dick in his deer stand and i always ask when i introduce these proposals from closing the boyfriend loophole to background checks to doing something about better checking of 18 to 21-year-olds, i think does that hurt my uncle dick in the deer stand and the answer is, of course it does not. this is our moment to act. it's not just one killing, and we all know that. it's happened in every single community. every single senator in this chamber knows of a moment where they thought, how could this happen in my community? where they meet with the family. what i remember the most, actually, is a case involving a police officer out of lake city,
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minnesota. he's a good cop doing his job. he was called to a domestic violence incident. and what people don't know for police officers, these domestic violence calls can be some of the most dangerous because you have someone who is very angry, you don't know what you're walking into it, it's in the moment. he gets there at the door, has a bulletproof vest, but the perpetrator, mentally ill, had been beating up his young, young, girlfriend, meets him at the door and he shoots him in the head. i was at the funeral. the funeral was held in the same church where the officer and his wife and their three little kids had gathered for the nativity play at that church just a few weeks before for christmas and there were two little boys and a little girl. and the father sat in the front row to watch his boys in that
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nativity play only a few weeks before. the next time the family is in the church, it is the widow, the two little boys, and this tiny little girl with a dress -- in a dress with blue stars on it walking down the aisle at the funeral. it shows you how domestic abuse, and those kind of cases, yes, there is one immediate victim, most likely a woman, but it's the whole family that's a victim. kids who witness domestic abuse through their lives are more likely to get into crime themselves. the statistics show it. it is a whole community, that family who lost their dad and husband would tell you if they were standing in here right now. i am so pleased we are moving on this right now. i thank senator murphy and
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senator cornyn and i'm grateful for ten years of work with debbie dingell in the house has not gone for not. perseverance matters in this place and i'm pleased with the final negotiarity leader. mr. schumer: i ask -- mr. president, as we speak, the united states senate is working on something not seen since the time we passed the brady bill i authored nearly three decades ago. a bipartisan effort to draft meaningful gun safety legislation. for decades, the rhythms of the gun debate in congress have followed a disspiritting pattern. a mass shooting takes place in america. innocent people are slaughtered. families grieve and demand action but gridlock takes over and nothing, nothing gets done. this was the cycle in action after sandy hook, las


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