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tremont right now we are joined by little league her book is left on the democrat failed attempt to solve inequality s. a lot of the news the establishment versus bernie sanders. presented history to it determine thank you for having with talk about the book. really deep-seated tension the democratic party i would say since the 1970s. came in as 1980s the parties was at another crossroads of where to go. after the deed of walter mondale there was a sense of different directions the party could have gone g in. one was represented different
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versions of socialism mondale approach as a the idea of the democrat becoming a new democratad really focusing that is really what helped shape the direction of the party going forward what happened in 1974 and who got elected just give you a hard time. 1974 is another critical year in political history. the big thing that is
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dominated is watergate ready have a newup group of people who come into congress watergate babies who represent a change in these party. one of the things that's often depicted because there called the watergate babies they were against nixon. satchel change the democratic party. to focus on big government and they wanted change. this is people like garyy hart, even a whole slew of new candidates who come in for their joint later by people like al gore points people like bill clinton. there's a change in thear party direction and the party structure for the other big thing that happens is the economic recession. there is a real struggle with the democratic party for new solutions of the economy.
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going to find new ways to address the problems of the economy. they have become the watergate babiesir. tremont 1980. election, reagan versus mondale for the democratic party is looking to change anday how to change trend what this discussions going forward with it the 1984 election this landslide defeat is a wake-up call. a group of democrats come together for a couple of hedifferent places but one separate from congress. another is a group of moderate democratic governors from the south r. like chuck raab of virginia that see the party is a shift is direction. in the form what comes is democratic leadership gemma
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what is a dlc stand for? tremont a belief in the idea is that marketing approach was the best needs to bring about opportunity for the dlc uses a private sector traditional ideas help people create a quality they want new means to do that. to be holding to specialou interest groups we want to move both the economy with amort manufacturing -based economy would you be of our union oriented economy. also the democratic party away from a strong focus on special interest. special interestt groups. targetingused on
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moderate drinking for the republican party the last election cycle. to recapture with a sour critical voters. john was bill clinton involved in the governor of arkansas? jim what he was one of the founding members he comes to the forefront as a major player in the dlcso after 1988. the other key thing for the dlc after the 1980 election and caucuses yet again historic was not quite as bad there is a sense of soul-searching and there needs to be something different. tthe dlc comes to task bill clinton summoned to both lead it and be his new leader. he takes on this role as a mechanism to launch his own career into international
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office. he shares his philosophy and shapes it in manyay ways. on his third h way. term does not really come in in the w late '90s. using more traditional and the all success in southern is able to target a lot of different kinds of voters. take what was policy platform and present in a why the appeal accessible set of
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terminologies. general bulk of the book tv your coverage of the tucson book festival. lily is a professor at claremont mckenna in california. she is the author of left behind the democrats failed attempt to solve inequality. this is a call in program for which of the democratic party past, present and future. they want to hear from you especially democrats get your view on this 202 is area code seven or 88200 for those in the east central time zones. twenty meijer mountain pacific time zone. and if you want to send a text message about the democratic party to professor (202)748-8903. anplease include your first name and your city if youou would. submissive talks about the dlc, first about what arees three points the dlc espoused?
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>> one was the idea of less government you can expand opportunity and not with mother critical you could also use market principles in terms of growing the economy but also what tools of the market to make government itself more efficient. also belief and opportunity for all. but also responsibility for people to take responsibility. list the three taglines. i would say one thing i don't mean to jump ahead but in your questions i think the differences of today versus the dlc of the past. turbine is an early member of the dlc.
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one reason he is not ideological enough. this ideology fundamentally firmly believe in these ideas. a lot of the dlc electoral status of democratic parties. also to reshape the party to make it much more focused on those types. from a very liberal members of the democratic party been called today, but is there critique? john what he had many choice words of really being frustrated. what was the southern voice network. another is the call the democrats the leisure class it was this idea it was time to promote more upper middle
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class and upper class for interest. with the traditional values. it wasla marginalize labor but also other marginalized groups. and instead of a strategy of trying to win elections and having policy that focused on extending with that marginalized community trauma was a response to thess electoral success the dlc saw the 1990s? tremont this because really challenging a special becomes really a challenge in 1982 when bill clinton runs. after having had 12 years of the republican domination, it becomes really difficult to challenge the dlc. many people are critical they
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come out publicly critical but ultimately supporting bill clinton because they really see it as the only chance it is better to have a democrat that another four years of george bush. it becomes a critical bargain in manyhi ways for people in the democratic party. so i think about yourf initial question about the direction is going, this actually ends on obscuring some of theen other tensions but that's what's a very much emerging today. but it is in their since the early 90s. general this one general with wits. involved in this leadership council. who is al? ask the impressive figure.
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he himself was a democratic special staffer who had worked his way throughout the 70s and early 80s in variousy different positions. the chiefg. of staff who was the head of the democratic caucus. and he becomes the leader of the dlc executive director in thet mid- 80s. i really worked hand in hand with bill clinton to crack the dlc message of the democratic party message. one thing is fasting as the dlc he is a really serious person who believes and ideas. think about the dlc and their focus on issues not trying to make a lot of money but they actually fundamentally believe this is a better way to help people. one thing about the dlc two, they come to hold a tremendous amount of power in the late
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'80s and early 90s. it is a very small organization. it is mostly unlike the big grass roots or democratic national committee spirit is primarily made up of politicians themselves. it is really only about a couple thousand people but they come to really reshape the party. i think the other piece of the power is bill clinton in 1982 selects al gore to be his running mate. that really solidifies the idea to new direction of the party unscented taken the usual approach in picking a vice president who will represent another wing of the party to try to win over voters they double down on the dlc message. especially to get elected. next professor, when you espouse some of their principlesse it sounds like republicans in a sense.
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that's one thing in my book the way people think of the dlc's republicans write about what other democrats calll them. i think there's actually a critical difference between the dlc style of democrat and the republican party. they did not support reagan for the thought a lot of what reagan was doing was horrible. especially the way it was affecting low income and poor people as well as people of color. one find a different b approach. and really believed the refocusing on the market in the private sector would be a way to fundamentally help people and move the country in a different direction. >> let's go to the present and title of your book, where did you come up with the title and why? >> the first part of the title comes from the language of bill clinton and democrats
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talked a lot about people who were being left behind. the communities that are left behind in t the ways they can use the new economy of trade insights to help those people become a part of the new economy and not left behind. that is one part. the other part is about leaving the left of the democratic party behind. in the subtitle is about the types of programs the new democrats espouse and promote. and implemented an office. i look at all these different types of programs that are there to help poor peoplear using the market. the book said things like empowerment zone, charter schools housing public housing
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huge part of micro finance and banking. all of these efforts use market oriented means for poverty inequality. the democrats failed attempt to solve inequality. willie is the author o'donnell and detroit you are the first call on her own book tv go ahead. >> my name is donna jackson i'm in detroit michigan. i am returning a chance to watch these good all the time. my comment is this, the democrats will probably lose and we will never post office again because of the way the republican party has structured itself for that voting rights if they don't like the boat they get to do their way. democrats have a problem that we live in cities and we do not live in rural areas per se. and so the republicans have emore legislatures in office
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around the country. this is why they are doing all of these heinous things to us. and unfortunately will buy your book, i plan to readne it. but that is my comment. it's not necessarilyus a question because i see the writing on the wall. try what we're going to have her address that. lily, is your book atli all about what the republican party is today? excellent things i look at the reaction the democrats reaction breaking to the colors important point is one of the things the democratic leadership tend to focus on and of course the democratic party focus on is winning national elections. especiallyly winning the presidency and what this did was make a rule of vacuum at the state and local level with republicans have really taken advantage of over the last years. i think one of the critical things that has happened in the collar is actually right.
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republicans have been really affected networking legislation the state and olocal level. one of the really critical lessons about is for the democratic party to more of the state and local level for people to get out and focus on state and local elections because critical issues of democracy are being addressed there. john went on his calling and go ahead. good evening. what is your opinion on the progressive wing of the party? and what about berniesa sanders? do you see bernie writing again in the future? yes? >> what is your you see bernie sanders running again inke the future and would you like that?
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check but i would like to see him try to get my progressive movement i think it is very viable. i think the message i think they have a badh label. with all of that negativity about socialism and communism, i think that is what hurtsw, them. overall it would be better foret the country if they could get some progressive candidates to run and when. thank you let's hear from lily. >> of the things that has happened is because of the democrat approach in clintonon era's power in terms of policy and strategy really crowded out progressive voices. one thing that's happened especially since 2015 even starting in 2011 the occupied movement as many, many people
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fromie different constituencies feeling very fed up with the democrats. thing that has to be other approaches and other answers. the progressive's been researching and with its been really, really effective. i do not necessarily its sanders will run again. finding another candidate who can really fill in in that way. i think getting beyond the labeling. there are lots of things a progressive candidates in the united states at the national comp of the state and local level have been offering for a lot of different people. john went politicsru are pragmatic. there has to be success but. >> it is true.. that is a fascinating thing. i am fascinated he's done as well as he has. not up in the first person you were a political consultant
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presidential candidate. >> our third column is named don. we have three downs in a row. from montana commandant go ahead. check but i to have you book reviews on laptop from hell and red handed. i think they pertain to the democrat parties. john went on thank you very much. book tv has covered both of those books. peter schreiter and maranda devine. maranda devine hasik aired already insert sweitzer's not aired but will be airing in the near future. thank you for that advice. your talking about the future of democratic party what if
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you could talk a little bit shy went mary turned on the tv and talk on the phone. try went will turn it down. i mentioned i was in the republican party. to observe and analyze politics. today people just want to live. iy wonder if you can comment on that. it's really important to think can. >> are two parts of that. what is the issue what happens after you and we elect our officials so they pass policies that are in our interests. focusing on winning.
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you do not haveca politicians fighting for their interests. another critical interestn has been lack of bipartisan cooperation. there is a more bipartisan cooperation in the '90s. on many critical issues for better or for worse. i think about this sort of really gone away it has affected the focus o on winning some of these. other kinds of americans. divorces her bank representative. >> one of the things you talk about in your book i left behind is that with this market orienteded approach to problems, some of the dedicated government funding has gone away and has been picked up by foundations and ngos et cetera.
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>> when you focus on the efforts of the private sector to the work of government you're actually giving over the rules and responsibilities of government. there public but they are often run by nonprofits. accountability. to do the work of governments. you do not have a say and hold them accountable and said don't do great with that. it takes away that really powerfulot voice that citizens and voters have. good afternoon robert.
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up until oh 60 is a democrat last ten years or so before trunk it's kind of an difference. personally i think the democratic party has switched completely and offered really been thinking much if you look at joe biden andod the vice president my god we think the democratic party is offering to run our country? i think to robert's point is your sense of frustration with the party focusing on post industrial growth. why consider elites.
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mix and feel much more alienated from the party. think in terms less in terms of the politicians that the policies that have been put inha place. it made many people feel the party is not really speaking for their interest. >> bob, fort lauderdale hyatt. i went goodd afternoon. i prefer charlie chisholm in the primary and doublet in the general election i'm kind of on the left side of the party. how do we get to the point were reduced all thehe inequality issue that is my question. thank you. >>. you are before the watergate abc you have a log states. there are important ways often
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time policy problems and policy solutions many have to do with restructuring and recommitting to social welfare. the people don't fill constantly vulnerable and have a sense of equality. there's doing more government regulation is not the and equity a large amount of money the workers not have several jobs t afloat. think finally another important way is critical to the power of the movement. that is one thing this alienation and marginalization voiced her powers by the democrats in the country more broadly. the fight for working people. benefit security for workers. fundamental problems off
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equality. come up with the clinton's reputation the democraticy? party today waiting to see the cultural pole they've had is not a speaker ofin the a sign of the party moving in a different direction. maybe we think them slightly behind. i think their policies have still had a say in oh eight. it came out democrats need to win elections. the particular clinton approach is one that is quite pragmatic to winning elections. often times t especially in this moment right now a fear of democrats and the midterms. this is a real potential bill go back to the democratic clinton.
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