tv After Words Sen. Tammy Duckworth D-IL Every Day Is a Gift CSPAN July 5, 2022 8:30pm-9:25pm EDT
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love the portion of your book were people tell me w i'm the first senator to have a baby while in office for don o the first senator to give birth while in office. >> women have been having babies for years. it tells of the average age is like 70 it's hard for female senator to give birth in office. we need more younger senators and women senators. ask the passages in the book are fantastic but i am hoping you and i can have a candid conversation about what that was like on a personal level. us more than others the senate is a very tradition mounted in hidebound institution. how awkward was thatt talking through i think use the phrase without a breast on the senate floor. t [laughter] >> as soon as i became pregnant i went through id but as soon as we were successful we began having the conversations.
because member the senate even then when democrats were in the minority were pretty evenly divided. and i knew it we will need every single vote. so i could not take maternity leave. and central say i cannot take maternity leave. if i do i cannot introduce legislation part i cannot vote, i cannot do anything. i could not even give birth back in illinois i had to do it in if i was in illinois i was stuck born you can take a newborn baby on an airplane. even from the beginning i knew we would have to work through a lot i of issues including the senate rules. there is no way for me too get on the floor to vote with my baby unless they change the rules. that was a process of negotiations amy klobuchar and my chief of staff back-and-forth, back-and-forth. first with orrin hatch who is the rules committee chairman and then worry when he took over.
ask what that experience show you and tell you about how far washington and the hill have to go to be truly feminist in terms of it's a ability to represent because as you point out raise children two. >> exactly. what we learn as you can find allies in unexpected places. that process once the centers knew i was having these conversations and negotiating they were very, very traditional part orrin hatch he was the rules committee chairman and it really didn't want change the rules he asked questions like what's the baby's dress code going to be? as a mom on are you seriously asking you whether a newborn baby is going to adhere to a set it dress code? must wear a hat not wear a hat, must wear shoes and a blazer. she wears a beat him not to take
that off. she's going to be in footy pajamas i guess i can put shoes on that but why would i? okay i'll put a blazer on her which i did that day. and that on the other hand i had members -- republican members who came up to me, marco rubio summit i've never agreed with on a number of things keep up to me and said tammy, i am with you. i will speak up for you. i wish i could have brought my young kids to the floor. and he totally understood what we need to do this for me too change the rules is crazy. and right before he came chairman said tammy i'm going to be the next chairman. as soon as going to change the rules. i remember when i was in the household and it was if i could bring my children to the floor what i was in the house but i am with you. and as soon as he became chairman literally than the same he changed the rules for me. >> while that is really fascinating. it brings me too another question i had as a hill person. i consider the photograph of you entering the building to vote
pretty iconic holding her baby daughter. you are somebody's been the public eye for so long for you dresses a little bit in your buckets not just use a public figure it's maya napping in the public eye. >> i amre very jealous of gardym daughter's privacy. you see pictures of them you rarelyac see pictures where you can see the full face. sometimes you will see were media has captured it. i almost never post pictures we can see my children's faces. they can decide whence they are of age whether or not they want too post pictures of themselves on social media. but it was important for me too be seen going on the floor to do my job as a working mom. fighting for working moms yesterday everywhere. it was about me and my daughter but is also very symbolic for all of the moms who work outside the homes in this family as well to see me break down that barrier so i could show even a
senator could have to fight to bring on the floor to do her job. >> absolutely absolutely. very common experiences that women often don't talk about. you were very candid in of the book about ivf and how tough itw was. sure more and more the unnecessary shame attached to it. we love how frank you are about your initial experience you have not given your full option. >> most i was a learning experience as a congressman at the time was at the va very
limited services. takes me to the hospital every hospital has a civilian teaching hospital that is a partner. the va i go to the civilian hospital happens to be a catholic institution. i didn't ever think about. i would go to them for mammograms and things like that. but when they referred me for returning services the doctor the maternity clinic there did not even examine maine did not take me into the clinic per she waited in the waiting room figure 43 years old you are too old for maternity services. you have less than 3% chance of getting pregnant. the best you can do is go home and enjoy your husband. and then she sent me on my merry way. not knowing anything about fertility treatments i believed her. this is a doctor at a hospital i had received excellent care at. it never even occurred to me.
at 43 to really ever get pregnant. and i've been trying for ten years. so i went home, told by husband. i worried about this and my husband smirked about going home and enjoying your husband. he loved that line. it was not until three years later i was speaking at a women and leadership seminar when a woman who was there question was asked how do you manage work/life balance. i said i'd try but i regret i was never r able to have childrn because i put off having children until is in my mid- 30s and then i struggled and could get pregnant and now i'm too old at this point i am 4445. in a woman in the audience came up to see you are not too old pretty going to go to the doctor at northwestern hospital in chicago he's knocked up every single woman over 40 professional women over 40 in chicago for you need to go to him. and i read about this and i didn't believe her. i was very polite. she continued to pester me every
month. [laughter] for six months but finally i went. when i went into see the doctor he said yes you work with me because of the process there's no reason why why you can't get pregnant for he actually examined me went to the process. eighteen months the day from when i went to see him i was pregnant. and i write about this openly in the book. i know what anyone else to be misled the way i was. w when i went i set i thought it couldn't get pregnant and i was too old. he said where did you go? he said i told them he said that is very typical of catholic institutions. the catholic church does not support and virtual -- ivs specifically its fertilization of an egg outside of the human body. and he said that happens a lot. and so in included this in the book because i want people, other women other families that are trying to start a family to know they have options. and it is a struggle and it is worth it. i now have two beautiful girls when i had a 46 and i had to ask
after i turned 50.ls so anything is possible per. >> incredible part it's really incredible. i encourage all viewers to go read the book you go into this and very great detail. i am wondering how you contextualize this recent story we have not even gotten too. there are very few members. even some of the female senators have some of your experience ewith these choices that women make every day. do you think about that as you're working or is it separate from your work life? >> everything i have experience and bring to work with me because i think it makes me a better public servant for my constituent. i also told my staff members as they go through their lives and have experiences they too should bring that forward what's working for united states senator if young cannot work on your passion.
i called the passion projects. i've been working very hard on reproductive rights but not just as a progressive democrat woman i brought people's attention including many of my republican colleagues to the fact that if you support the personhood amendment were fertilized egg is considered to be a person like many of the laws being tested, you will make ivf impossible and out of reach for most people per my own dr. said if this passes, tammy, i could be convicted of manslaughter want to put three fertilized eggs in you knowing that probably two of them are not going to take because those two are human beings with full rights. think about what youou are doing when you pass legislation on reproductive access for women. so i bring that to the table. and i wrote about it. often times in letters to my colleagues and i speak up all the time. it's not just about choice in
terms of abortion it's the choice to want to have children techniques be used beyond my grasp because of these laws that have unseen consequences that most people don't even think about. >> absolutely. they have this process. our allies and access on the floor are you finding a personal story it makes him more open to talking about this? >> i think so. and it happened time again. whether it's w that or we talk about the post office and the need to preserve and support the u.s. postal service. i get my medication through the mail. it is one thing for that mail to be a couple days late. when it's three weeks late and it's my pain medication for phantom pain is in their it's what happens you don't support
the u.s. postali service. i also bring to the table i counseled the mamaa act. talking about the high maternity rates among african-american women in particular need to really support mothers of color who often times are not listen to in the childbirth process. and talking about families that cannot afford bikers cannot afford to put the children in daycare but not because they don't have access to daycare but they don't have access to diaper. they are choosing between buying food or bike diapers. so many daycare you drop your child off you have to include diapers with that. if you cannot afford diapers you can't put your child in daycare which means you can't go to work. i think it makes a legislator a bed better legislator if they have these life experiences and bring it with them. my colleagues have their own experiences. they are doctors in mom's as
well. they bring to the table what's helpful to them as well. >> fascinating. go back to earlier chapters of your life you discussed in the book. i was stuck with reading in your times review of this they had that thought i reading it. there are some parallels dreams for my father for you are a biracial political figure gets extremely personal per your style of writing is very different that i found really enjoyable. he can be a little ornate you are fair approach driving with that was like. if you could discuss who your influences were. you are so candid what it was like growing up and have this vision of america. you get really personal. could you look for inspiration suggests and budgets have centered duckworth would talk?
>> is a book was my inspiration. because in reading born to climb the title is amazing. very deeply personal about being born biracial in south africa. even his own birth was a crime for the fact his parents got together and had him. and in fact would my parents met each other and fell in love. my daughter's home state of virginia and then i learned so much about apartheid at the experience of apartheid to the individual on the black side of the equation and the white side. i wanted to do the same thing for the experience of growing up biracial in asia. and i wanted to teach the reader a little bit about what it was like to grow up in southeast asia post- vietnam.
but also why i come in to this day, still believe america is worth it worth fighting for. i got to write this book makes external daughter, abigail, ask that question question. mommy, you don't have legs. she wanted to learn to ride her bike and she wants me too teacher. but i cannot run alongside her and push her bike. so she why can't somebody else's mommy or daddy gone to iraq and loss selects how come it had to be you? i wanted this book i wanted to be very upfront with it to show america's worth it. began with me growing up in southeast asia and understanding what a privilege it was. i was an american. i could because i had that american passport and a lot of other admiration children could not. they had been abandoned by their
fathers. i have not been abandoned by minene. quick speaking of your father, his experience in the va system was the first chapter to chapter you yourself continued later on as somebody grappling with the va and trying to make it better. if you could talk a little bit what was personally painful for you to explore the combination of the personal and the political talk about how this can fail? >> my dad did what a lot of veterans do. they don't go to the va to get the care they need and the support they need. because they think they are okay and they're saving care for their buddies. and my dad time and again lied va.he he said no i'm fine i don't need anything. it's what you learn to do in the service. you look out for your buddies. l our veterans will take that to
the most extreme. i write about this in the book the federal d.a. said there 800,000 veterans in illinois. i knew there were at least one point to million veterans. that's how many individual veterans had applied for licensing secretary of state. undercounting 400,000 veterans in illinois. when they go to the va hospital they look at all this illinois only has 8000 veterans it does not need that additional one or two hospitals to build. and this other 40 veterans that are not being counted do need to go to the va for help, that help isn't there it's gone somewhere else but spent a lot of time telling veterans even if you don't ever plan to do it, go set up to the va knows you're there for the best we can i take caref your buddies iss not to not enroll in ba it's the best we can take care of your buddies to
enroll so they know you are there in your nose gets counted. i run into the time veterans are still knee motive taking care of their buddies. sacrificing incentive take care themselves that actually ends up hurting the team when they don't going to get the care they need. >> so i should say i describe it as a system valley be eloquently said this in the book. it's just a matter of the culture of taking care of veterans needing to evolve. is your hope that telling your story can help that happen? >> i hope so. all of the stories in the book in asia and revering america were so lucky were talking about being hungry and my dad has loso his job and was unemployed for four or five years. i have been telling the stories to people. i know they are people who have lost a job and cannot get another one and are behind literally a day away from homelessness the way we were.
i take medicine, all of those things. i tell the stories that put them all together in the book to show that you are not alone. you are not alone. there are people like me are in positions of power who understand and see you trying our best to solve the problems you're facing. the safety nets were there for me i could go to public school i could graduate from printed could graduate from college with a relatively low debt with my bachelors degree pre-all that was available so i could join the army. i want to make sure the safety net are there for other people. >> another sort of question
about your inspiration you feel the current situation with anti- asian hate crime. when a really terrifying moment pacific islanders in this country and know you're working on legislation that can help address this. when you're writing this book i imagine we were not yet in the coronavirus pandemic. document experience of people might suffer discrimination here in america. >> wrote the chapters about feeling actually been discriminated against in asia. i'm scorned for being half white. and actually insulted by my own asian cousins because i was half white and did not fit in with the asian community. talk about the other later on in life.
i hope people take from that and understand this is a universal experience among asian americans and pacific islanders in the united states. having earned this and find it with the north and thece civil r due to the chinese exclusion act and fought for this couple even as ourco family members were living behind barbed wire. just because they were of japanese descent or even look like they may be of japanese descent. now i am at duckworth the duckworth has been here since
the revolution but i to explain that this past year has on the community. that's always been with us the present of the united sea was using hate speech truck trump was talking about the virus and blaming people were coming up to chinese-americans and committing hate crimes against them, has been really traumatic to the community. inin fact hate crimes have grown by over one or 50% h and our mar cities. over 3000 cases of recorded hate crimes. we know most hate crimes are never reported. they are recorded as vandals, mugging anything other than a hateny crime.
>> the answer to this might be nothing. i do wonder if you got the chance to reopen your book now in light of what were seeing in terms of violent crime, so anything more how you address the other issue? would you add anything? next i think i would maybe spend a little more time talking about when it really mattered, the identity of america it was really all that mattered. in my helicopter on that day i talked at length about the shootdown. in contact with the helicopter crew, it doesn't matter if you are rich or poor. if you are black, white, asian, or hispanic but i have been part of helicopter crews with its one of each flavor of schedule and their. [laughter] are all different colors we are all skittles and all americans. that's why i love the army. a slow halfbreed asian girl a mixed breed ration but only met
if i could shoot straight and whether is willing to carry the load. i probably would've spent more time on that from a racial perspective than just speaking of falling in love with army big because. >> interesting, interesting. actually good segue to the portion of the book we talk about the shootdown. i write another "new york times" interview with you in prep for t this discussion at which you talk about i don't like pop culture about war because tough for me too watch on screen. how hard was is to put this on paper customer it was hard but i did it all in one single sitting. it was very cathartic and away. but i did have to go back and talk to a lot of people. i don't have a lot of memory of what happened past landing the
aircraft. landed the aircraft i reached up to try to do the emergency while shutdown to prevent a fire i passed out then. i have lots of conversations with people but i don't remember any of that. the doctors and nurses at the emergency room and baghdad actually gave me a drug to sedate me. they knew part of it beat to wipe my short-term memory. they do that for all the wounded coming through as an act of mercy. i am grateful to them for that. but i have to go find this doctors and nurses and talk tote them and hear what happened in the intervening time. and i found incredibly rewarding because i was told things i said and did i'm very proud of. ind was not a hero that day buti did not land the aircraft. i did not carry anybody to safety. but until they sedated me i was watching out for my crew. for me as a soldier, as an army officer that ultimately was a vindication for who i was at my
core. i was watching out for my guys until the end. >> wow. that is such a remarkable experience having to place those calls and have those conversations. did you have any research assistants or others helping to piece it all together? >> i did. it was a group project. as at walter reed recovery, nurse in charge of the emergency room had come up to me and said you, i know who you are. is within four or five months of me being wounded. he said you were talking to me. you came through my emergency room. he gave me his name. is able to track down the medevac in the medevac helicopter he put me in folks with other folks it ended bingle facebook group in the hospital unit in statistics cult sampling
think of a snowball rolling downhill getting bigger and bigger. once i found one person help me i found two people that i found three people for long i was in touch with all sorts of folks. some in-service all reaching out for they all talk to each other. it became very human for the others as well. because many of them never saw, once they treat you and baghdad, what happens to the patients for they don't know if this patient died, survived or what it was. o for many of them -- wonders in particular who intimated me, he said i had haunted him for 15 years. that my final words to him before he sedated me and he thanked me for letting him know i was okay. >> a while, wow. they're kind of impressed your u.s. senator? [laughter] >> thing about being in the military you don't know where people are on the political
spectrum. the book is called everyday is a gift. because everyday since that day was shot down and iraq has been a gift. i should have died. the only reason i survived this to the heroism of my crew. the heroism of the doctors and nurses and other people who took care of me. every day for me is literally a women havemen and given me. i try to convey that to them we may not always agree know you guys are right northstar and i try to never make you ashamed or embarrassed by what i have done. quick speaking of the title is an interesting contrast with ntvery upfront about the trauma and heritage. you have explains a lot of trauma in your life and chose italian book something that's really joyful positive for it wasn't hard to film on that title to jump loud discussions with others? >> oh my gosh read all kinds of
discussion about what this book should be called. there is a saying strong in the places title for his book. he's an amputee from vietnam. we thought of all sorts of things. met doug six. one date when i was talking as i was writing this to the publishers and to my collaborator i was talking about the shootdown. every day in my life -- i think they asked matt a tough day at work. i don't know what it was maybe's health care fight or something. i said i'm really exhausted today. that you had a tough day? i said yes but every day is a gift. every day i have. they said that is the title. [laughter] that is the title that is how i live my life it everyday i get up. i think people for carrying me
out of that field on iraq. i said okay. what do i need to do today to live up to what they did for me on that they? : : : hey did for me on that day. >> sometimes the brainstorming and then you say it out loud. so more logistical question, i was so impressed that you have the time to write this. you mentioned you wrote the part in >> did your husband to cover ouchildcare duty? >> i do it in bits and pieces. when i was doing a proposal i wrote on the notes at on my iphone and you have an hour and a half when you're sitting and then when i wasas on long flighs when i went back to iraq i just sat and brought there. i would write bits and pieces
and put it together. once i had the book deal and i knew i got it in december and i was due august of 2020. i knew i had to get this thing done so iw just hunkered down ad wrote. it's just aboutn making sure, even ten minutes writing down a paragraph. it's just a process and had a great collaborator that worked with me and helped me along and i had a lot of good proofreaders and i sent dick durbin my senator how he found me in the hospital gave me a new mission encouraging me to run i sent him copies to read into folks i'm a big fan of his thought process and his wife is also the new york times best-selling author.
so i sent it to them at chapter here in there and it gave me feedback. a lot of people helping me along the way. >> i love that i love the senator opened it up into great detail. what was the hardest part off this book to write. i'm assuming talking about the cash but another part that was most difficult. >> my early childhood was the hardest part. the bad guys took aim. it was not an accident and he actually landed the bird. >> it is fine, it's not on me is the fact the man of the aircraft to the remarkable piece of flying and actually landed that burden one piece that's why they are all alive i am in honor of his expertise and he was distinguished flying and his actions on that day so i would say it's not a crash at the landing. he did amazing effort.
>> thank you. >> no problem. probably my earliest childhood was hardest to write. i closed off a lot of the struggle of living in poverty in hawaii and what it was like i only started talking about in recent years as a nation has been in more of a depression every session and talking aboutt it more in the fact that i was on food steps. i was very ashamed to be on food stamps for a long time in my early 20s and 30s i thought it was a failure only until later in real life that was not a failure that was success. we never give up as a family, to this day don't get between me i will roll over you in my wheelchair because i know the value of the pity that's not to be embarrassed or ashamed that is to be proud of. we pick ourselves up. with the programs and the food stamps we should be more open
about that because there are lots of families that are food insecure right now that need to know that there is help. >> while that makes sense although i would not have expected to choose that part. in the same interview at the new york times i referenced earlier you referenced your actions and you also talked about other books like white rage which is the book you reference and that even the president read it. i wish i can ask r a question ty i will now ask you. what book would you have anybody working on the hill are reporter or staffer read as a priority. >> i would rather have a reading list. i would put the white rage on there because it does talk about the pendulum swinging our nation every time we've had a movement in success in the step forward.
that there is a backlash it is part of our nation's history. i think that is one that should be read. i think people should understand those in the military not experienced freedman who wrote the war i always wanted. that is a good book about the iraq war in afghanistan as well and what my generation have been thinking have not been at work for over ten years. this is our turn t to go and tht coming-of-age story for military emitted women. i would have a whole long list of things. and if you want to learn about south africa that's really good. >> reading this is probably fair. another book question i had just reading a book i was struggling not your typical which are written by members who have their eye on something higher. you just telling the simpleng
story. i wondered you think this is a book for everyone whether they honestly had no idea who you are because they're from another state. >> this book was written for my daughters. i want them to read and understand that america is worth it. fdai want them to read and understand the struggles that i went through and that america provided me with privilege and with help although no good way and that america is worth it. i truly wrote this just for my girls but also for others to understand that this democracy is worth fighting for. and to maybe give people perspective as to why i believe in the programs that i believe in and why i support more food stamps and more money for public education. why support the policies that i do and to really expand how i got to these positions based on my expenses. and they help people get that. really this book is a love letter to my nation but it's
written to my daughter so they would understand why i was willing to even compromise their life so to teach my daughter to ride a bike, that is the cost i made a decision before she was born and if it was to lose my life i would dote it again if i was in the same position because our democracy is a less-than-perfect union. it's a struggle to become a more perfect union. >> one makes me laugh out loudut when you are asking one of your daughters what is your daddy's name, what is your mommy's name and she says i cracked up. all. was it a tough decision to talk about your current situation because you mentioned you want your daughters to maintain
>> having gone through a senate campaign while on ivf and having a miscarriage. i decided i have to talk about it and for other bombs that work outside of the home at other women struggling with fertility issues which i realize people come up to me and they would have this idea that is aerobics and vip treatment and there's no such thing as worklife balance, it is a lie and it's a lie that gets perpetuated that hurts our nation and hurts our families in the long run because there is no worklife balance. we must pass things like universal family leave paid family leave. we need to have it and here's
why. the fact that military women, this is when iid first started n 2013 the military had to report back even if they had a cesareaa even if the duty station was afghanistan they would have to do that. that is wrong. i got into that portion that was deeply personal as a mom because i really wanted to say that i struggled with it and i see your struggles and i've had to pump breast milk out sitting on a toilet stall i was trying to do the best for my infant daughter. the system is not set up to support a mom that works outside of the home. i felt to have left it out would've been a disservice. >> you mentioned not even the senate is set up for that. now that this book is out we are
talking today i imagine you doing a lot of public appearances. to what extent do you want other hafemale leadership figures to tell stories like this and start getting personal. >> i hope that more people step forward and speak about the struggle. i understand as a female leader i have just step forward and take charge often. sometimes this is to exhausted you cannot take charge and you have to set up boundaries. i like to be realistic about that. i get called all the time by women who want to run t for offe and especially for federal office younger women who have a younger children and i tell them you're booked out of the campaign and i had enough and had a huge temper tantrum and
when i was with my baby daughter i feltt an adequate in file to everything even if the world saw me as a senate candidate who had it all together and i want more women who do achieve success to be upfront about that it's not all struggle. and not that you just have to work harder. i was working as hard as i possibly could and i was really holding it together. i did and they did make it. and that's the message i want to tell to other families that you can make it, it is hard it is not easy but it's worth it in the end. >> absolutely. >> part of that we are seeing a baby bust in this country and average age of parenthood. you asked somebody who became a mom at 50 is there anything that
surprised you anything like watching right now. >> i feel younger because of my daughter they make me do all of the things maybe i was a mom in my mid-20s i would not of appreciated i think it would be a more call mother and more patient. it's given me a second usefulness. i go into on the swing with my kids i don't think it would do that if i did have kids. also to the aquarium the other dayr she's writing from fish tak to fish tank. laughter i say go for. it's an old line you can either be a 50-year-old with kids or a 50-year-old without kids wishing that you had them or when you talk to somebody who is 65 that
wants to go back to college, why don't you do that you're 65. and for you shall be 69 anyway you might as well be a 69-year-old with a college degree than one without.y so do it. >> a very good point. you mentioned you are in aol conversation senator durbin he played the central role in your political career. i wonder if he had a conversation or if there's any notable dialogue as he wrote.ui >> i wrote the first half of the book i shared it with him. a teacher who does active made
me cry about the passage. can you tone down the rbrm language of little bit. i don't think that's going to be good for your future career. he could not even say f bombs. i didn't think you would. >> that is really funny. >> is always watching out for me he is my mentor. he said i know you have to be true to yourself. i don't care that much it's only in private that i do it. i'm very much myself of the
book. >> going back did anybody read this and they say bu. >> everybody says be me. i think i did a good job of describing things. my early childhood memory was sitting onor a car of french brd i was a felony at one point in the flowers and the mango trees there is a lot of descriptor to the book. in the description of my style 100% succeeded in that. one portion of the book and is incredibly tough thing to go
through. did you consider more about that. >> i wanted to address it but a book can only be so long you have constraints in terms of how many pages, i did not want to write a 500 page book and people could read and get through. and enjoyable. and i'm sure some people will cry but i hope there are a lot of proud moments as well. i thought that i treated it and upfront about it in my own life i don't dwell on it for a long time and that is just how i am. i went through that that was tough it sucks. i had a chapter called only sucks. i own it and now i'm moving on
i'm addressing beta working model under the age of six trying to be considered at the same time i acknowledge will happen but i can't dwell on it because i don't have the time after this interview i gotta write all the stuff for an easter basket 48 hours away. i don't have the time dwelling on the past. >> absolutely. >> i wondering how constituents shape at all. if you have any conversations in your personal life that ended up in the book, illinois and many particular ways. >> definitely i constituents or why i was able to write this
book. over the last years in my four years and i've been prompted to tell stories have never been told before i never told people, my dad was out of a job for five years and we were struggling and i was only when putting food on our table for p our family. i only started talking about that because i'd met and i had been laid off and i look at this audience and people say and 52 years old what if iin going to o and i just started talking about my dad and i've never spoken about him being out of work before, how did i not n know tht about you. the fact after i had my two girls i started talkingst about ivf and women would come up to me and say oh my god thank you for talking to be.
and because of you i tried ivf and now i had my baby. it is my constituents would make me comfortable and trying to relate to them to understand and i've been able to share experiences with them and that's got me to the place were not able to write this book and opened it myself insured with the stories and i learned tof recognize it. these are not uniquely my stories these are stories of people have gone through and i hope people see themselves in my story whether the other first person to go to college like i was, whether they had been asked where are you from even though they are americans whether they had to fight to try for being a working mom. i hope they see themselves in this book. >> that's really beautiful.
and it helps you think about your future in different ways. we sometimes see members to spend more time with her family and a young family. have you evaluated that at all? >> i've got to pay for college, i have a 6-year-old and a 3-year-old. i have college tuition coming up. i could not stop working for another 18 years at least. that's a a real problem my oldet daughter will get my husband's g.i. bill but i use mine on my phd i've to be hustling for my league. bns editor the only thing that is better than the shabbos company commander the battalion commander i'm happy to be in the united states senator and i think my job makes me a better
mom so i plan on doing this for a long time to come. >> do you plan on writing another book? >> let's see how this one goes i did not write this just to tell my story i wrote it to tell america's story my life is just an example of an american story and to really answer the questions, i in the book with the letter to my daughter i think other moms and dads might recognize the desire to speak to your child as an adult but from your current experience if i write another book it might be about the great people that help me recover all the. visitors i talk about the. visitors they are such characters both of the korean war veterans both of whom used
in the pt physical therapist in the 80s became the sex talk couple for the amputees because they were so upfront about what life is like post-amputation and to the milkshake man nonveteran who lost both of his legs wandering around handing out milkshakes paid out of his own pocket for years to help support the troops. i would love to sell both stories in more detail. >> not to make more work for you but that's a fantastic book idea. >> this is a fascinating conversation. thank you so much for your time and i hope all of you go out and read every day. thank you again. >> thank you. >> c-span now is a free mobile app featured on future view of what's happening in washington live and on-demand pre-keep up
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