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tomorrow, we are witnessing in advance. we have another premier called rural voters, the film over the past four years likely and kenyon with kane's brother andha we are going to show that here and after the film, we have panel with dustin and chloe and that's it. thank you all for being here. t't where it's someone is getting interviewed in the guy was like can you spell it first and last name? and the girl was like f i r s t l a s t n a me did forget one

important thing which is who are you? who are you? >> oh god, i don't know. i've been doing a lot of thinking lately and. ♪♪ that's a big question. >> sorry, i thinks adjustment what is your name? >> oh. [laughter] >> i'm canyon woodward, a grow been north carolina and i'm a showrunner. >> i know that, i'm your brother. ♪♪ my name is chloe maxton.

i am a state representative candidate for state senate and human being she lived inside with us for a couple days and i grew up on my family's farm in noble bro. and i've always just loved where i'm from so much. it's just something i've always known and as i got older i really began to see all of the forces that were threatening where i grew up in the place that i loved so much. thank you. ♪♪ gonna be late. doesn't search on me. tell me everything you know. about canyon woodward great.

love them. it's not a verified source, it's mom. what do you know about him running? i guess the first time we saw running is when it' the first time we saw him running was running away from us when he was a little kid running down the driveway running away in montana hiding under a bridge, run, run, run. >> where did he learn it? >> i was in history class in my history teacher was cross-country coach and she was desperate for runners and one day she stopped a jersey down on my desk andnd got me to come out for a race and i think i threw up at least once or twice, fell once and finished and then i got a metal. i love shiny objects, i think i can be into this.

>> you've always been interested in justice. >> yes. i can see tierney. one of my earliest encounters was my high school. being out there on election day helping get this person elected and having them come to our community and listen to us and then betray us so instead i decided to lean into the political process and try and change that. i met chloe in college doing climate organizing work. >> fossil fuel industry is waging the war on truth. >> we became best friends. >> we organized on the campaign together. we were at harvard to stop investing it's endowment in fossil fuel companies to go the right way.

>> as chloe's mom, people say tb me you must be so proud of her. chloe is a freight train. she has an ability to envision the future and commit to it. she to always been like that. >> they taught me how to organize but also reinforce how much the organizing we see is not meant for rural places for folks who don't think the same way. >> 2018 and a came home and was inspired by canyon and we talked as we usually did in those days about doing work together and rural politics so a couple of days later i text canyon, i need a campaign manager. >> she's going back again.

>> false alarm. [laughter] >> i'm running for the house of representatives in maine and want to manage the campaign and i thought over and was like i don't know anything about maine or district 88 and i sure as heck haven't managed a campaign before so why not?el let's do it. >> campaign headquarters, this is the breakdown. a little hard. [laughter] >> it's a little hard. >> barrel campaign managers.

everything from learning graphic design on the fly. ♪♪ and figuring out how to attract mail campaigns in which voters and volunteers to talk to organizing volunteer campuses, managing the budget, the list goes on. >> one toe, two, three. ♪♪ ♪♪ >> i think we allll know politis as usual is failing us. local issues are now state and national issues because our government has profoundly abandoned people but everywhere we select the same kind of folks and they tell us the same way back the same way. begin to the statehouse, we are

left with the same solution we had before. >> i never thought i'd run for office in a million years for a lot of reasons. it just seemed to out of reach but it's not that hard. they just try to make it look confusing so i think that opened to myself and it was really important. >> at times feels like they are not ready, not quite qualified and is just about taking the first step. >> chloe and i were underdog by 15 points in the district and cover one by democrats. a 26-year-old woman with a 25 euros campaign manager. ♪♪ ♪♪ >> it wasn't that complicated, we just did what we had done

since we were young. we talked to the people in our community, we-d drove door to dr and went to people's houses and had real conversations with them. ♪♪ then we one in the most rural county in the most rural state in america. ... >> .m >> landed this fully start

quick. >> public service. >> what we do now?m >> i will dive back into climate organizing asap get some warm weather and trails to get back into training. 72 miles. ♪♪ >> i never really heard people

talk about climate change but good jobs and sustainable injured on —- industries and then when i got elected i really wanted to think about climate in that way and sponsor a bill with that realities period chair recognizes the representatives. >> thank you mr. speaker and colleagues in the house. i rise today because i care. >> that afl-cio with the first green new deal bill to be door space state union affiliate which is pretty exciting. h my bill passed the house and senate and was signed by the governor that means large projects in maine have to hire a certain amount of people part of the union and leading

young people earn as they learned as the saying goes. >> she likes to have her schedule and work through it. day after day after day. when chloe makes a commitment to something, she does not stop until it is achieved. with abstract poetry.

>> it floats like a butterfly but stings like a be. [laughter] because at any moment he knows exactly what he needs to be doing and what needs to be accomplished. >> i'm excited. i have been training hard for a while. finally i have an outlet. >> have a great run. >> the whippoorwill is singing. i enjoy those hills and the air. i am pumped. farewell.

love you. >> i think people as think of ultra running a self absorbed. but committing yourself to the things that make you feel alive and connected as a whole this good earth and community that you share the path with that's the kind of thing we could use a lot more of in this world. >> i'm proud no matter what. >> a lot of these guys probably go out and who knows how many times they do it before they do the actual record setting. you learnrn a lot.

>> it requires running and not just going out. day in and day out. >>he especially in the rocky mountain national park. >> something especially gratifying and then when you log in and they get through on the other side. >> i am proud of you all. >> .

>> but that was fun. >> hello. how are you doing? >> i'm okay. >> haveel you had any more thoughts or feelings about potentially running for senate after our meetings last week quick. >> i have. have you quick. >> i don't know how i would do

it without you. so that has been a big thing with the senate leadership once us to decide whether or not we are going to run in 2025. but it will be really hard. >> definitely i would love to do it with you. i see a number of scenarios that could work but i do guess the clock is ticking if they want a final decision. >> with progressive politics

the fight to lose fight to lose and then you fight to win. >> today we decided to commit to the senate race in 2020 who will run for state senate. >> the heart of building this new politics is starting on the campaign trail so we havees extended our reach by over six times because it is six times bigger than the house district. >> i find campaigns very challenging trying to do something different to see another stupid politician with

the last bit of hope and democracy but i also recognize that that face-to-face conversation is the only way to rebuild any type of faith or hope it's hard to face that anger every day. often times when we are campaigning we are so busy or tired that there's no time to enjoy what is around us is much as i can i try to be outside. >> we intentionally decided to create a culture between ourselves and volunteers working on the campaign for what brought us joy and for cam that is running. >> there is burnout culture throughout politics. people feel you have to give

up a part of yourself in order to engage in creating that change. i really reject that idea. it's so important to hold on to the other parts of yourself that make you whole and happy. and to use that as the foundation to draw energy to do the hard work to create change. >> i say you need to go for a run and he would go for a run reand every time would be just a little that better. >> do you need to run a little more? >> oh my god. [laughter]

>> the way i was raised in this community is to value if you show up then i don't really remember politics being a decisive issue. >> every single one of her bills comes from conversations with voters at the doors working pretty much at everyone to have bipartisan support. >> and with the democrats in the progressive movement so it's no wonder they are not listening to us or moving away because we have created a constant judgmental narrative. i wouldn't listen to anyone who is a narrative about me like that. >> it's important to get tforces to the table.

technocrats writing our climate policy and then to be connected with them every day with conversation. ar>> fueling the democratic party so much of that is top-down. and to put that on its head with the grassroots campaign getting into community relationships with dozens or hundreds of volunteers. >> i'm excited to go out and talk to people today. >> going into the community to

make sure that everything we did was based on our conversations with volunteers. >> knocking on dozens and dozens of doors. >> a lot of good canvassing right there. >> but we will hit 13300.ac >> how many more days until election? >> i cannot think of a better

way then to be held accountable. let's reminder selves of who we are to fight for something better. ♪♪ >> and now facing a tough challenge from the democratic representative. >> change does not come through the election cycle.

there's a real tendency in politics for you to feel that you've done your part and as not the case. you have to get back on the horse with fire. celebrate the victories and see yourself to those hard defeats but then to get back on your feet after the races over. >> at the end of the day it is

simple we put 1 foot in front of the other and show up every day and we do our best. >> we are so happy for you.

>> we just found out chloe one. >> what does this actually mean? >> and they did of everybody who cares but actually it is very simple. and then to have judgment in yourself.

>> in the 25 -year-old the first thing you do and then be elected to the state senate. ♪♪ ♪♪

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[inaudible conversations] [cheers and applause] all right that's here another round of applause. [applause] >> i will actually be moderating a wonderful conversation and some housekeeping is always some big think use and then

spending some time with us as we talk about a lot of what you saw and is in the book and here tonight. also to the state for hosting so if you see them so give them a thank you as well into introduce both of these inner you seen the video but there is some extra information as well. the youngest woman ever to serve in the mainstream senate at 20 years old with the two-term republican informant as the minority leader in the main house of representatives after becoming the first

democrat in the rural conservative district also receiving an honors degree from harvard college and the price for young heroes also named a green hero by rolling stone the 2020 legislature of the year by the main council on aging. freight train and i love that. born and raised in the appellation mountains of north carolina for the successfulct 2020 campaign and previously feel director for bernie sanders 2016 for north carolina senate and with theto degree of social studies to take place outside of the

classroom coal coordinating with a 70000 person movement with a 50 that billion dollar endowment for fossil fuels and also an avid runner if you did not notice that in the video. [laughter] [applause] >> so tonight we went to have a fun conversation a bunch of conversations the audience will also ask questions as well i want to simply be a moderator i understand rule but i am here to get my degree in political science of southern maine masters in divinity but recently elected as the first person of color to be elected one year

ago. >> so we are here to talk history andnd politics so as we begin one of the first questions that i went to ask you is take us back to 2018 and talk about the feeling what is it like what is it like when you know that you want? - - you one? >> to the news like the goalposts are being moved and then i can't help thinking about right after trump is elected and how much that hurt

us in the finding something to do inn the best way is to find a way to take action in a local way and as far as 2018 with that first win i really didn't think it was possible i just wanted to be there for you. [laughter] i don't know. i came to believe. >> thank you. [laughter] also was a quick sidebar thank you it is such an honor with all of the rural elected officials out there.

honestly when i look at the stuff it makes me cry because it was so hard. it was so exciting but after trump was elected 2016 might to take away that the world is really powerful and it is going the wrong way and then local politics democrats focus on statewide races. until then i was ashamed to say i was in a state house district and state senate distracted both went for trump. so my small way to find hope in that moment was to see if there was a different way to ayturn the massive ship around.e >> the other question that you

became a believer so asking the hard but honest question aid you believe you could do it did you thank you could win? as you went into it, did you have this undeniable confidence that we got this or how much percentage? i don't know. >> i thought we would lose the entire time. [laughter] but you just keep going because when you are running races i don't know i have never ran in ultramarathon but maybe it is the journey is much as the outcome and having conversations with voters have never been contacted by a democrat before so then the dynamics are stacked. and i think to say we would

win because that's how i rolled that do you think we will in? >> i think i lied a lot. [laughter] don't worry about it. keep knocking on the doors. >> i grew up super red rural north carolina gerrymandered district and we got to see to that firsthand how detrimental it is for all of our communities when we throw in the towel because it feels like a lost cause and we need to do a whole lot more going into the district when we arer. not sure about the outcome maybe it's four or six or eight year time window but we have to come together to organize and push the needle if we will ever get there

otherwise it is just a cascade 2009 and rural america and now the 16-point republican advantage and that those relationships disappear. >> there is a little bit of humility always but also the risk and what we are doing. i appreciate that but so let me shift into the book i had it all marked up because w there's good stuff in here the first question i want to ask looking at the 30000-foot view

what is the term world mean? what should it mean? onro —- rural, how does it mean to be world and how you grew up? had you experience this world concept one —- rural concept quick. >> talk about population density and i think that is important on some level we also identify rural places that are disparate and far apart and isolated when i think of rural i think of a community that raised me and growing up i really don't remember talking about politics i now know my family

friends were republicans but j back then showing up in need there's a different way to talk about life i did not appreciate. i get it now but the other thing lack of services and opportunity and actual access that has become a defining feature of rural life we do have a homeless shelter or domestic abuse shelter very basic things and transportation services it's hard to get anywhere there are some basic things that are unique to make it different from urban life and they are just different struggles and then they require different solutions.

>> yes. i really resisted being rural for a long time. i never imagined that with some time and space came the feel of it and living in a smaller community where people make eye contact on the street and then it to a little bit to strike that cord and i think that is something all of us shared. you moved away for a while as well. >> when you go from southern t maine from northern maine that

is too far. >> but chloe mentioned the lack of access is in isolation feeling. but that is how i felt. coming down here you get the concept and think everything is a city but that's not true there is still some rural places that has the same feeling but that's part of their community of what makes that identity so that's ae community that's up over that reality and there is that rural feel absolutely. >> i feel like something we all see and know from moving

away and not coming that could be beginning to shift we need young folks to come back to the community. >> there is a value here you love the values that are here as well. i didn't leave only just to get my masters and i still came back so having people come back is important. another question but this resonates with me so talk to me about the role of space and i don't know if you came across this with your candidacy but what do you see their that resonates from

rural america? >> we have ed daily struggle we want to give each other space to talk it's an awkward silence before we say something. i see there are two sides of the coin there is a negative side where in rural america with the democratic infrastructure a very evangelical religious viewpoint to influence politics and abortion hase become the linchpin of that dialogue in somewhat terrifying ways and i have experience that in my conversation the only question they have is are you pro-life i think that is a malicious

use that but churches and spiritual religious institutions i consider myself a spiritual person so i enjoy talking to people being able to connect on that faith level but there is a different way of thinking it is special and unique to rural communities because we feel more isolated are that we feel connected to that. y that is how i experience it. >> do you have any thoughts as you are out there canvassing and campaigning. >> i think lori said it well.

i have anything to add beyond that beyond it is something that bonds us so much especially where ist came from when they say what is your last name and what church do you go to? [laughter] it can also be super divisive definitely a two-sided sword but i would love to hear what you think about it. >> so these of that evangelical doctrine to shut down any good conversation that we had. it has gotten so polarizing for what you both have thrown out let's have a conversation and talk. and you mentioned working in

the house and senate. you do a lot of talking sometimes that can get shut down if west are using the doctrines first so i think it allows us to open the conversation and have that conversation so that's what i have noticed unless you have somethingnd to add? because you mention that in the book and it was so much fun so tell me about the funnest part of the whole campaign and then you win and all the work you are doing what is the funnest part from the whole campaign process? >> i always think we had all these things we wanted to try when we first started campaigning but we just ran out of time how cool would

that be but sometimes on the back roads it felt dangerous but when we started at the beginning we had canvas weekends all of our best friends would all come up to our house for a weekend and we got to hang out together for a weekend. we just ask for three hours on a saturday to knock on some doors. that combination of making politics feel fun and to create community that was revolutionary to us because he both only experienced it remember campaigning for hillary in scarborough it was so bad. [laughter] i said never again. it was so alienating and alone and miserable what we were just so committed and i did

not want it to feel like that. >> i experience that working for bernie. i love him to death but with the campaign it is super extractive and then to bring friends into it and building community to have food and the space to air our grievances afterwords and also celebrate the good ones was so important to kick the soccer ball in the parking lots. having friends and community to be the focal point is so important. >> you felt that's what you wanted to bringll into your campaign from the bernie and

hillary campaign you wanted to make that change. that's why you invested so much in the way you did what you did. because on the video you throughout the playbook. people were telling you that you cannot do that that is not the way the campaign. but if you bet on yourself you usually when. [laughter] >> i think it is important to say there are so many incredible productive folks like you and me who are elected all across the country in rural america. and then to say there are we are dynamics what works in maine will not work in michigan or arizona or utah and not trying to say all of lthese lessons for rural america. but there are ways to rethink

what we know about campaigning. it makes him slightly more human and accessible and then to be involved in the campaign and most of the volunteers came fromeo canvassing that have never volunteered before to get involved with politics. there is a space there. >> it's so cool to see you have wanted an opportunity and latch on and a lot of people don't feel like they belong with campaigning. so many have so many skills. a lot of people don't showcase the talents in the skills that

they have. it makes an excellent community. you created the perfect culture and that doesn't happen all the time. i appreciate that. >> this is supposed to be a fun conversation.yo [laughter] we will take a couple of audience questions.

does the audience have any? >> i moved to maine a few years ago. i am i in a remote job in boston but about to come back to maine. i actually remember you chloe in the work that you did at harvard i was very impressed. i was always very engaged and active but it was not something that was part of my worldview but you and your classmates in the yard did a really good job convincing someone like me to be interested weather causes i'm interested in so can use week

specifically to the experience of doing that work at a harvard and how that translated into your campaign and success? >> excellent question. that was on my list and i would love to know that. >> it was so pivotal i remember being in high school when the climate justice organization started saying i will never go to our protest. there is too many people. i cannot do it that was my experience of activism growing up in him and i got to harvard and then surrounded by all the privilege and wealth it felt so bad in that contrast changed everything. then to confront the administration it created its

own sense of urgency at the institution how all the students got involved. at the beginning saying i just want to do the work but with the power of community and annever understood that power of comrade reenter coauthorship and those who would do anything and together we had all of these trainings but organizing this is a one-on-one to facilitate a meeting with a never heard of them before or organizing on campus and community building and organizing and power

building that is so incredible. i really wanted to bring it back because there is a no on my computer that says my neighbors name is shirley and i said how do we get shirley involved?he so there was part of me that is powerful here but we cannot plant it back to where i grew up. so we literally said at the blockades and saying this is amazing how do we take it home. >> yes. i have nothing to add. [laughter] >> it was nice to see that footage for your work over and harvard so it was good to see

but do you still get nervous when you step up to the plate? or have you settled in? or i are you just starting to feel confident and this is what i do? >> i just hang out behind the curtain. [laughter] and i let her answer. >> i get nervous sometimes program mostly nervous i will say the wrong thing and people will get my one —- mad at me. >> senator, you sponsored open primary legislation that is

now law. thank you very much. is not us individual candidate or legislature one —- legislator but any other processes that could be changed to help engage rural voters even more? >> that is such a good question. and actually became like yesterday. [applause] >> it's something that i heard in 2018 and in district 13 which is almost an even split democrat republicans when iha talk to the independent i cannot go into a primary. 70 percent of elections are decided in thein primary system

in maine. so they pay for elections but then they can't vote in the primary it is ridiculous. we have been working the past couple of years to have a semi- open primary system so folks who are independent can vote in the party primary. a lot of so they are becoming the anti- party and especially p talking about rural america how it has become so partisan in one of the ways we can try to confront that because more people o voting and the candidates are less on the extreme side of the parties.

>> i appreciate that question to see that shift to people say i'm running as an independent and the local politics, it's not party affiliated but people do align with the specific party butou there has been an increase of the ways you felt that group could be heard and could have that accessibility so i appreciate the question. i am sensing the same thing. i havepa seen that when i was campaigning last year more people were detached and wanted to get to know people. >> . >> i am a portland resident. i have two questions within on unfortunate personal

experience and then sorry ask you to run wednesday get selected and then the second question when we launch your campaign for governor? [laughter] [applause] and who is the youngest governor in the history of maine? i don't know. >> i knew that was coming. go ahead. >> i thought you were going to run for governor? that was the deal. i have complicated feelings about it. it is an honor to represent my

community. and my constituents to help people do so those partisan dynamics are just really tough and they are making it really difficult for folks and just like the legislature and we get 14000 the first year and 7000 the second here so there are barriers more in office that are representative so it is a self-selecting group of folks in a partisan atmosphere and it is a challenge. in the middle of that we have done some amazing things. i see courtney but stopping the biggest good samaritan law

in the country. [applause] it wasn't led by either party but then there is still some hope. >> did you study before you got there? i know there is a learning curve but. >> so i represent the town of whitefield one of thehe largest amish communities in maine. there is a deadline you have to submit and the deadline knows that for o'clock p.m. somebody was calling me at 3:30 p.m. please do something about this. so i put in a bill to be asked

to read be removed from public roads. china to be helpful but then the paper picked it up and published it saying i can't leave i elected you to work on this. a very awkward start to the game. that is how i learned. [laughter] >> a little problem my very first day onct the job was appointing people to boardingn communities and there's a whole history you have to learn and it comes to bear with being a so than the biggest thing is learning the process of local politics. who goes to what and what goes first.

one thing but then to inject a bit of my voice. because it is a complex system and then to say if he has an issue but then doing your best. but i like that is a rainy follow-up like saying thank you for that? >> i killed the bill. [laughter] the people talk to me all the time about it it is very complicated issue in very interesting. [laughter] >> it creates the most provisions. we may think it is whatever but for folks it is very important it is important to people especially if it impacts them and then you

learn these things. igany other audience questions? >> thank you both for being here today. i have a question about tomorrow coinciding with theor release of your book we can expect a supreme court decision of the hydro back so i'm curious for you stand on this and then to put this behind us after the fall but that infrastructure of rural communities and what you think of it what do you expect them to be for.

>> i am against the court order.nc the principles of climate justice for those that have contributed the least are impacted the most. that is an injustice i think the court replicates that pattern it just has a different type of energy economy so that's my problem that rural parts of the state that cannot stop it but really is at the mercy at the powers far greater than what they have t control over do i think it is extremely problematic the way the lectures is created? yes can we do better? are there other ways? yes. that is why i don't support it.

>> . >> thank you i am a portland resident also when i have a question for both of you.er so post 2016 and a lot of people thought that everybody voted for trump is stupid and ignorant and how can they do that? some said we really need to sit down and listen and talk and you did that. . . . . i mean, i think it is -- it is

easy to just write people off and whatever category that s falls. whether it's us thinking about trumpet voters or what 20 of think about me is a former bernie campaigner. you just seem to close the door, close the conversation there and ascribe the worst possible characteristics of them that you can without ever entertaining a conversation or looking them in the eye of seeing what our shared humanity is. one of the many things that make such a powerful force in our community is her ability to empathize with people and see

people as neighbors rather than others. and that opens so many meaningful doors. >> i think, you know, at the beginning my first start having conversation with folks who were looking at the world very differently than i was, it was really challenging. i genuinely did not know what to say. what language she is to have thatut conversation without arguing about it which is not productive. i ended up just listening mostly by default and saying wow, this is really interesting. i do not agree with this but i kind of see where it is coming from. and the more that i did that thn more it made sense. and all the threads started coming together. there's definitely a lot of conversations i don't have any space fors it. very racist, very xenophobic,

very hateful and i don't do that. but most of the time even if we disagree on 90% of the things or could be 10% we agree on. there could be a great conversation about one 100% of it. i feel there is a tendency in politics -- it is still unhuman. i don't agree with anyone one 100% ofes time. people like close to in this room are in this room we disagree all the time. why are we supposed agree one 100% all the time at their political kennett open up all the space in me to have this conversation with folks. to be able to find that commonin ground. and i think a very small probably not great ways i learned when people were saying problematic things how to engage with that a little bit i move the needle may be just a smidge.

that's a good question bird are we going until 8:00 p.m.? i know got a question right here do not want to miss that. do not give me the shrug we could go until 10:00 p.m. this is awesome right here. we will honor some time for a quick hi am billy and i want ton thank you, mr. warren and mr. woodward for coming to talk to us. i am studying to become a teacher. when they meritw learning about how to teach teach things like about religion and it kind of backed away from teaching kids for some reason which is kind of the point in teaching them. so i was wondering like i

designed a lesson to teach kids about taxes but they enjoyed it we made up what are some things we could tax? [laughter] i realize designing these lessons how complicated it is your giving an example of an official in the local politics, learning the system. all the stuff is super interesting when you get down to it. so i think kids would really find interesting. case in point might mentor/teacher so she is a truck supporter. but she is great. i love talking to her. we have interesting conversations. i thought this reflects what u.s. were talking about. but how do i insert myself in her class and teach that kind of answered my own question you talk to her about it.

[laughter] so my real question is whatni yu think is important to teach them about running for office, local politics? >> excellent. i know you want to hear a shout out. becoming a teacher is one the hardest things right now. [applause] thank you, thank you for committing to that service. those wonderful question as well. what should be taught? great question what would you offer? books i think about some of the best things that came out of the movement like a young climate activists on college campuses all across theik country. folks are going on to be politics, be teachers or be farmers and engage really powerful ways. in such different ways there are so many different ways to do this work that are so important.

and i go back to thinking about looking at the composition of congress or legislature where i a gripper in our state and just like what it looks like still dominated by old white men. there is a place for that. but it should not be this over representative groups the way if is. having stories like young boats like chloe doing this work is so important. i make it possible to run for office, be elected that way. and telling those stories is so

important. >> i agree. [laughter] works i appreciate the questions as well. roleaid it best is to have models have the vision you can do this. you represent that so well. my biggest fears is how do you do it? your story gives junkets in that moment to realize they can. they need to step out and be impactful. and that is what folks need. they need to see the diversity of their role models the experiences. i absolutely agree i think that is great. there behind you. hi, i am old white men from south portland. [senator i know you are committed to being very thorough in your answers. but you did not seem to speak to the governor's point might

review suggested 35 years of age and think there are many of us who would agree it is long enough you still have a little at a time. just curious about your thoughts there. number one, high. [laughter] number two, i continually come back to this feeling that is very particular to me in my personality f. there's so much power in movement building. i feel it's a lot more power and movement building and getting tons of young people elected are from alternate backgrounds across the country more than just me banging my headng againt the wall and asking people to hold me up while i do it.oo i think that is what i think. i meant definitely want good people in office but it would to support awesome other people getting an office.

i'll just stay behind the scenes for low bid during the organizing. with the thinker all on pins and needles but until then, you don't have too. talk to me too what you both find as ways to self-care. do running what iswe self-care to get you between sessions, between the highs and lows and while we wait for next whatever it is. talking about self-care and what others in the political process can do for self-care? >> running is one of the main consistent things for me. that is iraq six days a week. also i love dabbling in pottery. that's the main thing outside of that is making time for outdoorf adventures with friends andwo

family, i think i got away for two week a raft trip right in the middle of our campaign in the summer of 2018 peers wild in retrospect. but those things are important to come back with the energyee u need to charge through. >> i like being outside since it is main. i get to farm with my partner which is always beautiful. and i like watching a ton of tv and crossword puzzles. it sounds so boring for quote if you need boring there's a lot that you do brittany tv shows, movies you recommend for us right now question recorded watching? too embarrassed to say where i'm watching right now. [laughter] >> what is the most -- whatsapp best one, a anything. quick gossip girl? [laughter] [laughter]

money heist is a great theme for these days. i love to watch money heist. it is good. [laughter] >> i like that, that is good for us, time any audience questions there is a hand rate their. i see yours and then that will be it for tonight. we all need to go home. next my name is ava i am a nebraskan. i am kind of curious as to your thoughts about what small grassroots campaigns might look like different areas of the country. no you represent different rural areas. i wonder if you've noticed any differences in how you might approach different campaigns? >> that is a good question. what could translate to other places? what doesn't translate but what does translate other places, good question. >> i hate to answer every

question with community, i feel like folks come for the cause for whatever issue, brings them in. but if folks are going to stay in it for the amount of time that it takes to effective change they've got to come back for the community, relationships and friendships of form there. that is what i hold on a pedestal. yes, it is such a good question. you know your hometown best and what might resonate there. there are definitely some themes we've seen working in some campaigns in other states that i think we can fit this is what we can do something differently to confront some the patterns receipt when there are things happening in ruralal places. p

and i told agree having a community oriented political space can just make such a huge difference wherever you are. another thing that is kind of specific to what our races look like receives so much feedback for the people he talked too. we would integrate that into what are mailers look like, with the sounded like et cetera et cetera. i think that process can create content in a campaign that really reflects the community that you are organizing in. looks excellent question but if personaloticed the touch i've seen that come through as a personal touch bird that's huge in campaign. the other thing at sea, have fun enjoyed it's almost like once-in-a-lifetime. always have fun. final question i know it's a lot of pressure i know you got a good question ahead.

>> to being an old person here most in state politics what a while longer than most of you have been, my things and ask as you go along andnd visit people talk about this book is that there was a time when things were not so divisive. there was a time right after the second obama the second election the age of the legislature of the of the age was 30 and under. they're amazing people coming out of college and sing the very first job was serving for the brothers wonderful insight in this wonderful energy. of them were long-distance runners. i really think that helped off a lot with really long legislated night spirit guide would advocate for anyone to do that. there is a process or don't they do it any longer there's a process called welcome back.

it was whene legislatures, no matter how long they serve they were all welcome back to the statehouse. there is a time when they would hug each other. no matter what part you are from. amount how much you argued on the session flirt you'd ask you to the about their families, but what was going on with them. which just ask you to think outd those stories that people came before bird there was a time when things felt differently in the statehouse. people still fought for their parties and their issues but they did fight so hard in the way things are now for the question came up how do you inspire young people? i would state voting happens in a lot of school cafeterias. room to as many kids into the physical voting booth as they can and make them feel the t dotson. that's in the really start understanding with this process is about. the question is, we did not have the software to help run campaigns is really new for us ain maine.

section obama's second generation we start using it for the very first time. so i guess my question to you is, with all the software and technology do you think that always helps the campaign? or is o it stepping outside the immense amount of information we haven't actually just talking to peopleri? it's sharing technology was still that personal touch will be my question. >> yes, that is a great question. i think tech on campaigns is a super double edge sword. thank you so much for what you shared in terms of backgrounds and that resignations. i think the van is a super useful tool. it might be great if it wasn't a monopoly but that's a different conversation. i have seen campaigns go way too

deep into new apps of like text your friends, get them onboard, download this app, pledged to vote and it spirals stuffed the subfield very productively think the core of them need facilitating those face-to-face conversations. yes. first of all definitely to armored b history, where we come from and how things have changed from the shoulders of folks we have are standing on for those who came before us and all that good work definitely. i mean it is so interesting. and lincoln county is a very p special thing for read the lincoln news is a widely read paper is a very effective way to communicate. we cannotey have a huge digital strategy or put money into

facebook were also the oldest county in h the state and has internet connectivity challenges. i just did notav resonate with folks. it's cool to not have to rely so much on digital strategy and to really put all of our resources and focus into how we build authentic meaningful relationships with people and meet them where they are at. >> things move at light speed p sometime to come up three, four years ago. so thank you. final question for the night first of all thank you for your wonderful questions. those were amazing. you took my job and made it really easy so thanknk you. my final question for you and do not forget you have copies of the bookre here. they will both be available if you want to ask personal questions. ask question regards the book and the theme of tonight.

this book tells us that we need to do with were looking at in the future. some of the coming into politics, or just voters what is it going to help us do? >> i would say it run for office. especially if you are a young person . put yourself out there,o bring your friends along and give it a go. even if you don't when the process of it is so meaningful and valuable. we need more people having this conversation that's not always fun but hopefully the shared community of it can be meaningful and getting involved in local elections is so, so important. but also go out, plant some seeds whether in the ground or

radical thought. [laughter] there's so many ways to engage. hugs i was going to say support your local folks running for office. go help them. they are looking okay drive a few minutes or a few hours away and help someone else running in a rural place. i would like to hear how you would answer that question two. chris is going to answer my own question. i think it first gives us a wake-up call. it helps us honor s both sides politics does not have to be so divisive that there a path forward. heavenlyrs conversation is sittg down and really thinking through and finding places we can compromise. this entailed leave folks with as well as local politics is a place to begin.

it's understood how the process works how to have conversations with those issues impact you and your local community. if you live here in portland, or another town, or another city, your tax dollars go to that towt in that city. it impacts you. feel empowered to be active and get active they are. and then come support these fine folks and support others who are also running races under senate houses will put start small and can grow. sometimes it happens really fast like in your story and sometimes it happens like mine. it is going to be year after year after year but we start small and big things are on the horizon. that is what i would leave t wi. i did with the last word i would yours to be the last word. when he last thoughts? works thank you so much. >> it is a pleasure. thank you both continue the great work. >> thank you all. [applause] yermak.

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