>> ladies and gentlemen, if you would, welcome me in joining pete hegseth. welcome both. >> thank you very much. >> thank you all for being here. appreciate it.ch >> it's a heck of a basketball player in high school, i don't think you started off your career as a commentator, as a news guy. how did you and fox news ever

meet? >> good question. i've never seen this before in my life and i had a marine buddy in my life who had done tv dotwice, he was an expert and td me, justhe lean forward. that's his first tip. yit makes you look like you hae good posture. lean forward and don't let the host cut you off. 46 times chris matthew cut me off. so i was a new by-. newbie. i ran a couple of vet organizations coming back from iraq and afghanistan and one supporting the war father in the battlefield and it's been an ongoing issue obviously and through that, i ended up in appearances on tv in different places and a lot inned 7:being

fox and then "fox & friends" and i'll never forget they said have you thought about asking questions instead i of answering them? i said i'm happy to try anything one time and worst i can do is make a fool of myself. that was in 2015, early 2016 and tucker carlson who was the tocks and friends weekend host took the prime time gig, thank goodness because he's amazing, and i took tucker's slot on "fox & friends" weekends and that's where i'vex been ever since. >> if the forward, right up there in the front, there was a note about the two of you got together and kind of like indiana jones and his father and

one was sean conery and down the line. >> he looks like sean conery. >> how did the two of you get together for this book? >> you sure? i was at a "fox & friends" meeting in north carolina and there was a beautiful young family in the corn who are had their two youngng daughters thee in their uniforms. as i do with every diner i walked around and was talking to everybody and i was talking to them and they were talking about this wonderful family, christian school in north carolina. i've known about classical christian school but my interest was around that point and i want to learn more so it's broken and what do you do really, i d. i

shot them an e mail and said i want to learn more. what do you guys do and he shot me and going down the line and i said, we got to make a movie out of this. people need to know what is going on and from the dewey and pledge of allegiance and the whole story and everyone in this

audience has now had flairty with his whole theory in our nation today but what i found fascinating in the book was the two of you makes a point that that's just a tip of the iceberg and this problem is really as much as 100 years old and why don't you please explain that. >> well, what's really an amazing part of the story, the development of the book is more in 2020.

as we went along, history was unfolding in front of us. the schools were deeply involved but we kept telling them and this person on tv today, they said this, have you ever lookedr into this and pretty soon it was a truly collaborative project where pete was writing he's written most parts of the book that deals with the issue of our day and what we found out is they fit together like hand and glove. i mean, john dewey no sooner gets through with his work that i research in columbia university and the frankfort school shows and you happen pete had a better grasp on that side of things than i did. >> progressives have the

targeting on their mind from move down the line and the civilization and schemesam wereo ever catch on and they understood that and the immovable object and the american classroom thinks the family and the jones analogy is like it's trying to grab the artifact and the play for the alarm bells go on and moving 100 years ago ands panters, culture, communities, trips would have proposal and they openly wrote in the new republican and other publications and that's the research that david did and moving down the classroom and ultimately it landed on a forgery, which the culture at

the time was willing to accept with the aleans to the state and it was -- allegiance to the state. it was the flag and new pledge and a pledge evidence of infection allegiance written by a socialist that didn't sayoc under god when it was originally written. i love the flag. i've probably said the pledge of allegiance today at the beginning. i review it.an for them it was a new idea around which they could get cohere and national being more malleable than biblical truth. t bibbingly cal truth and objective truth, you can't move people off that. there's socialists and then eventually marxists who reject biblical truth and they'reec fallen nature, simple nature.

once you can change and reject that, then you create a laboratory for societal change inside classrooms and one of the other things that david discovered through his research and we write about is only progressive study with the first successful social movements which is prohibition, a woman named margaret -- what was her name? w >> willard. francis willard. >> francis willard who's a socialist but if we can put it into the curriculum of third graders and maybe we start having a chance and 1870s third grade curriculum and antialcohol was put in classrooms and it was an ad hoc system and before john dewey and third grade system and by 1919, what do you have in america? prohibition. the sale and consumption of

alcohol. they say if you can do that with third graderd curriculum, what else can yo you do with third grade crick collum discovered a -- curriculum and discovered a word: i learned it from david and we talk about it in the book, which is how you educate and train up the youngest and if you can shape the youngest of minds to have a different understanding of the value of a good life, you change the entire way of society in a civilization looking at what they value. >> well, so as we said the pledge, one nation under god indivisible. would you go so far as to say when socialism and those that created the pledge were after what you've described to them, deunder god, god essentially is the state. it's not up -- yes, originally. but the original pledge by francis bellamy did not include under god.

it was added by eisenhower and added by comments in the 50 the and original pledge has no mention of god. to oversimplify, the new economy. f it's a cross and a bible in the classroom with a flag and a pledge. over a time speaking and different types of school over here and got around inside and there's a pull out period and and not on school grounds and what we respect that you haveav faith in god. it's always incremental and you should explain they started a school in gary, indiana, and changing the way school worked from k through 12. it's individual because they created these model schools and

they became ary center point of it. the thing about gary and they couldd do the type of line there and superintendent that build it down and in indiana and things we all thought were allies in school like bells that ring at the end of a 55 minute period. period in a seven period day. the idea that it's broken up in social sciences and this was all packaged up and removed religion, christianity from the classroom by simply putting it in a pull out period. write first encountered this story was when i was reading the

back and forth between 1915 and 1918 where they're arguing about how to get god out of the classroom for good. the one side was saying, hey, if we put it in a pull out period, we can eventually just drop it. the other sideri was saying we shouldn't have a pull out period, especially when you import it back into new york. which is what happened with the gary point and it was successful and imported back into new york. whole modern american experience especially in high school was designed in gary and it was designed about god. it was the first design of that type. >> in the book, you describe at someat length this whole woke movement and, you know, part of being woke is hey, you're invading my space. those words are harmful and all the rest of that. i just could not believe it when i read it in your book and that is that the national archives

and regular administration, the agency that is the nation that keeps all of our records in takes care of the constitution of the united states and the deck la ration of independence. when you access the archives and how can this possibly be. >> the we can site of national archive for the deck la ration of independence and the -- declaration of independence and there's a trigger warning of potential violent content and inappropriate content. that's the logical extent of the view of the left. they want to reject -- they have rejected the ideas of our founding and theories were dedicated to that from the beginning of when they landed on our shores so david talked about

early progressives and john dewey and other names you'll be introduced to and critical terrorists of the frank -- theorists of the frankfort school and they're welcomed in ncolumbia university, where jon dewey was a professor and what is columbia at that time and columbia teacher's college still today? the preeminent teacher's college in the united states of america and marcs marxist arrive with a new theory, critical theory. sound familiar? precursor to critical race theory and gender theory and they begin to teach it in the teacher's colleagues and they go out and become heads of their departments or other places and more with critical theory. what is critical theory to your point? its props is to deconstruct effectively western christian

civilization. it is criticize all things that lead to the white euro patriarchy capital system torn down if s we advance marxism and they knew the class warfare wasn't going to fly in the united states of america. our terrible toss of racial injustice and fertile ground and critical theorist landed on critical race theory as the way in which they could indict america from the very beginning. we call the first chapter of our book the covid 1619 moment. because covid-19 happens, zoom classroom comes into all of our homes and open up the laptop and in american history, they're teaching 1619 is the newfounding date.

it's because they have rejected 1776 in the principles thereof and they're indicting america from the very beginning from being a terrible country. that type of logic at the academic level, which has now made its way pervasively through k-12 and leads government institution saying the declaration and constitution needs trigger warnings and we need to find a newfounding date and all the wisdom they had despite their flaws has to be rejected. that was the premise of critical theory from the very beginning. they used to only teach in higher education and now all the teachers that have been through the teacher's colleagues and handle the accreditation that have gone and now in bed with the unions and i see rebecca freed rick is here. she's a great friend. ...

is a lot of wisdom from a lotot of people the front lines of this. we were yelling about before people were paying attention now they are adding attention. those theories have been embedded into our institutions but that's where you get to the point where something like that appears on her website. >> wealth explains this is why you have to read this book. we'll pull a quote from your book as like you to explain it for us. on the right principles but the left controls the p positions. what do you mean by that? x it is a political question you get t it. [laughter] cooks what i mean by that? look at local school boards. look at union representation. look at our university.

we stand on principles that we know are timeless. can't believe they should be timeless and that they do stand on their own. whether it's the brilliance of our founding or the biblical wisdom. in the left goes ahead and runs for all of the positions takes over all the institutions and then pushes out all the stuff we thought was timeless and would be there no matter what. if there's one thing you'd fault the founders for is assuming this type of education would continue. it's how kids would be educated at some level with an understanding of greek and latin and great books in our biblical western civilization narrative. we assume that the waters we had anticipated the critical theorists and others who came about after that and reconstruct did.thing they were not trying to be pessimistic in this book. new member the stuff we uncovered on fox rising up a school boards, right customer

cloud and company, virginia glenn young tenant gets elected it. it's all amazing stuff. it's wonderful to see and i mean that sincerely. those types of actions in today's government schools that's what we should call them, and government schools public schools or government schools. thosee types of actions as we sy in the book i feel like it is charging a fortified machine gun with nerf guns. we salute your effort but were going to bury you all. because those school boards what to the dish those parents 95% of the time? good luck, see you later, next. my mom protested at pta meetings in the school board in the 1980s and 90s when i was in elementary and god bless her. she took me out of those courses weathers the new ed course of the self-esteem thing that'sig quite benign by today's standards we recognize it for what it is back then. she protested it and she pulled

me out. just what happened at forest lake elementary school in central middle school? nothing. 99% of the other kids still went to that education and still got the program. now when did in the 90 of that at forest lake high school they control the pipeline of every educational complex the unions being their most powerful arm of that. the textbook, the certification, the accreditation all hard left. we went to disavow people of the idea you could move to a nice zip code or going to move to a conservative community pipeline has been a federal eyes they control those positions and doing something for your kid is good we argue it's utterly insufficient at this point.

>> if i could add the one thing, the money involved is the biggest industrial complex in the militaryno industrial compl. dollar for dollar. not only is the infrastructure solidly in the hand of the progressives but the money is two. >> you went to what we'll see what has to be an elite school for university. in the book you note not an elite education but rather the best education. what is the difference between elite education and the best education? you are an expert. >> by today's standard and elite education would be princeton or went as an undergraduate want for masters programam i don't kw if you saw fox and friends recently i did bust open my

diploma at the harvard and write return to sender and mail it back to them. live on tv. because they're the most elite institutions are poisoning if you hold them up as standardbearers of accident and we continue to cycle a perpetuation. it's not my so-called elite background it's probably your alma mater too. motion to hillsdale or college of the ozarks, i saw one back there, your university is probablyly dutifully pumping out hard leftists at a rapid pace. read your alumni newsletter. go back and take some coursework peruse the website. we find a fault we like the sports team or the nostalgia of drinking beer and college.

we pump checks to these institutions. we might as will send it straight to the democrat party. any part of perpetuating that i believe is part of perpetuating a cycle. the best institutions but i am talking about classical christian schools at the k-12 level. my mentor at princeton's name is robby joyce is an amazing conservative constitutional professor. by the way there's a renaissance there is now 25. all because of one man who started an institution and it is phenomenal. he is a quote in our book he says that used to be the liberal professors that licking their chops at indoctrinating these naïve a bible clinging kids that showed up at college. and now it is the exact opposite. it i is the conservative professors, the few among them lick their chops at undoing thee indoctrination of the kids who already show up woke and

indoctrinated. the problem is a higher education, higher education is already gone. the problem is k-12. that is the focus of our book. they are consolidating that on k-12. i talk about a great education not an elite education the kids david pumps out are elite. they are elite performers. they are elite students they are elite critical thinkers there elite debaters. they are ready to go into the culture and engage and win. by that definition of elite they are elite. if you mean elite by pays $50000 to your kid can be woke they are not elite. that's a lot of what the elite high schools are middle schools look like their pipeline to the ivy league. these are pipelines to wisdom. timeless wisdom the type of education our founders were seen they debated 250 years ago create this form of government. it did not get that education

and i have a standard -- every time i talked to david why can i go back to a near? i learned almostyo nothing. i look back at the social studies that i learned. well took social size of that social scientists, social studies, political scientist guess what disciplines made up by marxists. all of them. it used to be geography andhy philosophy and civics and politics. they reconstructed it to dumb it down to make a scientific method is no objective truth. we all got a progressive education we did not know it. what david is doing is unearthing a hidden form the progressive almost completely buried by the 1970s. and is now getting a generation of americans a chance to actually get educated. a my seventh grader who has been christian school now for six

years understands ancient greece and rome better than i ever will. that means is engaging with the big ideas that founders engaged with this he goes into a culture totally awash in devoid. that is what i would call elite. that's how i i would like to try to define it. >> wow. [applause] perhaps the two of you in this sentence in your book you note is the problem is not what is being taught in our schools but what is not being taught in our schools. so giveay some examples of a classical christian educationla that you think will in fact develop elite thinkers. we take for granted things that history gave us so long ago thah we had forgotten.

the basis of classic crystal education they date back to ancient greece and the principal was if you are going to form some type of public democracy you had to prepare your children to think for themselves. if they just listen to whatever doctrine someone gave them they would vote for the tyrant. you're going to back into tyranny. with the basis this country when they built the country that's many otherer roman artifacts not harkening back to the public needs free thinking people. the seven liberal arts the first three which is what i will talk about briefly here grammar, logic, rhetoric. training in how to use language well, how to use logic and think

well the study of formal and informal logic and practice. the things we don't classical as we practice thinking. we do not tell kids what to think. we practice them in the art of good thinking. very different kind of education is not one teacher standing in front of a room of 25 kids and telling them what to think. there engaging each other to learn to argue well. in the third subject is rhetoric. which is now a dirty word because politics shuffled it out. it was originally the art of understanding comprehensive hold of a topic. being able to communicate that to other people and persuade them to follow you. which of course is the heart of a democracy. it's the heart of a republic is to have discourse what we are seeing right now in our country is discourse is being shut down from every angle because we cannot stand to hear things we do not like tot hear.

and the solution is not necessary if your parent out there trying to figure out where should i send my child to school? the public schools are the government schools you've talked about which of the real problem. the solution does not necessarily spend to a private or independent prep school, correct? >> correct. i would argue most of the private school are even worse. and more woke.. in fact a lot of the christian schools and catholic schools are not as bad on the surface in every way see you then. they're still built completely on the progressive model of education. is what shook me so much at the beginning and working with david is once you start to dig into it he likens it to aig capsized sh.

you've been living in a capsized ship for 100 years you fill up the wall is the floor. and that is what you've lived in. when you tip the capsized ship u back up and you realize you've been living sideways everything looks completely different rate that is what david's movement has had to do since the 1980sdo is revive a lost form of education it's almost completelp gone. as to the darkest days of education was in 1970 there was no such thing as classical christian prayer that almost outlawed homeschool very close to doing so. they tried to outlaw all parochial schooling as wellin oregon before that. inthank goodness for the supreme court is been a good week for our founders. and for so many other leaders in

this country including ronald reagan generations and here we are. i would just say you have to break down the assumptions you have about what education needs especially in a christian context. that is why think classical christian is so different. the data, old, kind how people looked at homeschooling. homeschooling means weird or not socialized which is not the case for lookouts done today and done so well it is amazing what they're doing and homeschooling. including pods and co-ops and unlined curriculum and classical homeschooling. there are more options today than they have ever been or a

great education for kids and grandkids. which is one of the good news stories out of this. david has almost 500 brick-and-mortar classical schools across the country in 46 states. we argue for parents and grandparents think a radical reorientation of your life next to your family and next to your faith the next thing you can take the spend 16000 hours between the age of kindergarten 16000 hours. i was original 16000 hour war. that is what it is. do you really want to send your kid to 16000 hours of democrat camp? that is basically what we are doing now when we send our kids to 90% of the schools that exist in america today.

i would argue you do not want that. and some of the articles david uncovered the progressives wrote about that. in fact you know the quote better than me. what chance does one hour of training on sunday morning have against 40 hours of secular training during the week? who said that i cannot remember. >> ain't knew from the beginning. in the christian church we did it to ourselves as a movement. when the church advocated its responsibility on education david wright so beautifully about this for this social justice arm in the fundamentalist arm. ultimately the social justice arms joins with the progressives in the fundamentalist arms as we are here to save souls.ar which is wonderful. but basically said we are not in the school business anymore. god created that moment? sunday school. so instead of sending our kids to a school monday through god in it, we

take that out of the schools we send them to school for one hour on sunday. and then you see what happens as a result. i would look very closely any elite school, innate private school and any christian school and look what the baseline prerogatives of what they teach and compare it against the liberal arts classical approach david has i think you'll see a stark difference. >> if i could grab on that real quick, it is exhibit a and what we were talking about with deep educational state. they control accreditation, teacher certification, teacher colleges it does not matter if you go to a christian high school or independent prep school, they're all trained in athat system. that is the point we're trying to make. the reason they are wokethon ate same time you get everybody else. prescription we have in the book is get out tactical retreat is

what we call it. sometimes you are surrounded the first movement is retreat. in the argue in the book for an occasional insurgency. form of warfare against the strong the small against the big. david started that insurgency through his schools.on we are seeing arizona had universal tax credit program. it is a beautiful thing the movement there. [applause] will turn to the audience for question and just a minute. to trigger words i will call them. you are blessed each and every year between ten and 20 students will be are finding us more and more ofmo those that have riseno

the top, that become finalists competitors are homeschooled. it's really fascinating to watch. the second thing before go to questions from the audience, i wanted to just read a quote from michael's father here, president reagan in his farewell speech to the nation in january of 1989. the president said informed her patriotism is what we want. are we doingob a good enough job teaching our children what america is and what she represents at the long history of the world? and what means to be an american? we have got to teach history based not on what is in fashion but what is important. if we forget what we did we will not know who we are. i am warning of an erratic evocation of the american memory that could result ultimately in an erosion of the american spirit. that is it.

that was the end. at the end he commissioned an educational assessment of america. if a foreign country had done this would've called it an act of war. look at the report coming out. >> would like to turn to you the audience for questions a quick printer. if you have a question of course raise your hand. but please wait until we get a microphone put in your hand so we can hear your question. we have one right here near the front. >> thank you very much. because of your occupation in the circles you travel in you encountered media from the left and have discussions with them on their positions? do you have a banter go

back-and-forth or two people on the right,. >> just want to talk to juan williams. [laughter] x i would love too. first of all i get a chance to work with them the best conservatives in the business. we are chock full of them fox that.ateful for i will say this, the left wing media is not the most tolerant bunch in the world today. not only would they not want to have a conversation with me, some pretty left-wing universities, i am happy to have a conversation knowingly disagree and know we're probably going to come to different conclusions at the end of the conversation. the station talk to most of the members of the media on the left side of the aisle and the only

way that conversation is going to go as they are going to end by your a racist. it is an absolute mischaracterization strawmen is less than human. i have the private conversations i have with people left of center at fox are a wonderful, wonderful. they are at a place that actually tolerates. one quick anecdote of a bunch of folks who work at cnn who are conservatives. every single one of them has gone running for the exits because eventually they are cornered and ran at and screamed at and told what horrible human beings they are pretty specially if by trauma. find the door you can sit on the shelf and never be on tv. i have never met a liberal who works at fox that did not say this is a most wonderful place i've ever worked. because we do tolerant we have d

discussions on the air and we have it out. at the end of the deck and asked about their kids, their life, we think about this because michael compliment me on the book and i saw this critic can exist when you foster an environment thatxi exists. that environment at fox as he shared a america is a good country. [applause] that is worth celebrating. when you can agree on the basics you configured the other stuff out. over here. >> okay thank you so much for both of you being here. i am so excited to read your book. it is a little overwhelming to listen. i have three millennial kids that have not had kids yet. but do you have a suggestion as to how we can communicate besides just giving them the book?

and also it's a two-part question, that because i would like to be able to communicateat that to, two of the couples of my kids who were trying to have kids, to look at this. but the other side of it is, what can we do in the audience to help this movement? i talked to a cow last week you had the same question. she wasn't sure she was going to get them to read the book but they didn't read the miseducation serious it was very influential for millennial kids. they never heard that before. i would certainly recommend that on fox. next i agree, it miseducation ot america to six part series on fox nation. we basically tell the abbreviated version of the book and film form for the work of a great producer who put it together did a phenomenal job. so for not going to want to read it, i think after watching it they will probably want to read it even more.

and i think ultimately coming at the topic with humility to your kids which is exactly what i'm going to do to mind someday when they're old enough to understand what we made all the choices that we made as i had no idea. and so you are going to want the best for your kids. maybe i did not know that when i was going through. wasn't laid bare in front of me pay but now i know when you're going to want to know you're going to want the best for your kids too. do yourself a favor before they are five years old and read this book. and also i think nalco would really do this too. being more intentional and i can say this to californians someone has lived a lot in minnesota a very hopelessly blue state, being more and more intentional about where you live. meaning the city and the county that you live in. covid showed us how much that local control canol have.

that is david's website is a map for every school is on a pin on a map. and i would move to a school. that is that my wife and i are doing is moving to a school. i think it is that important that you cannot say here's the biggest problem that we all say property taxes. we probably moved to a place that is nice because of the schools and we pay those property taxes. that is a hard thing to get past for some people. but ultimately, if that sacrifice for the future of your kids, their souls and the way they view the world. i think time to watch the movie. what is another benefit to this whole movement. really i association members. we just o help these independent schools, outside of us there

other organizations doing classical education classical conversations in the home school is doing the same thing for homeschoolers. sc cannot afford seven or $8000 year in tuition, homeschooling is a viable option for their many other options pod schools, classical christian education is 2000 years old. it is all of ours we just have to recover it. >> well stated. over here. >> hello. i went through the whole catholic homeschool and they started my kid with that. he is in college now he graduated. i have a big problem like what you said about progressives plan whose core curriculum. even though we homeschool because they did not t have the money to go to private school we homeschooled catholic school appear in california and napa. they had core curriculum that we

had to do. i stopped going nice that i'm not going to do that anymore. and i tried to get our things forr schooling's and groups for it but we wanted to go back to high school for sports and stuff they would not accept him because of accreditation but he had an alternative school. i was so glad i was able to homeschool. it just meant so much to me turned out great. he's an eagle scout and all that other stuff he did. that was a big block for me. why do we have to cater to this core curriculum still? and one other thing i wanted to mention, i noticed lbj he decided he did not want to have school buses for christians and catholics. and so even thoughou we publicly pay because of all of the taxes getting kids to the public

schools, he eliminated taking kids to christian schools and i would like to turn that around also and turned around the core curriculum thing, how do we do that? proxy school bus things sound like a great challenge to the supreme court these days. [laughter] i amcoth serious. the core curriculum is how they consult with the control obviously. david, how do you navigate core curriculum and classical christian schools? >> we don't spread. >> they don't. when you don't take the kings of gold at some level not that you are homeschooling is not that. but you are right though. when the testing at the high school level requires a core curriculum aspect as i try to box most parents in. it takes lot of effort to do it on your own. we talk about this in the book, the sat recently just stopped testing for reasoning.

because reasoning is racist but the same guy that took over the sat wrote common core which is a federalization of standards or the obamaof ministration. what david linked up with is a classical learning and sat for classical christian schools where there's pipelines of curriculum for the risk accreditations, teachers colleges is an entire ecosystem is going to have to live parallel to a progressive pipeline that controls every single aspect to your point. or it's i think has a question. [inaudible] do not know if you are aware but when he ran for president of the united states the first time was the main things is campaign was to get rid of the department of education. brought for by jimmy carter. the one thing he was upset with

after eight years been president of the united states is never able to get rid of the department of education. - i remember one of his great quotes when nature under god we are nation gone under. i caught that all of the time when i go to speak to young people other than that working people get a list of these schools? people who have grandkids now? my parents sent me too a military academy. [laughter] >> i like that. i went to a place called st. john's out by alcatraz. as taught by sisters of mercy. [laughter] and then i went to the jesuits. god is having fun with me from the very beginning. but where do you get a list? >> is a webmaster she's developed a great tool you can sort by state, city, depends on a map. anything you want.

classicalchristian.org school finder. it will get you there fast. every school has its own page you end up out because again we are an association of like-minded independent schools. >> into your point the reason your dad i would believe us so adamant and getting rid of it he knew how and why it was created. we break that down the book as well. a lot of work rebecca has done focuses on that too. she used to be taken over by the unionization movement. at union movement turned around and dorset's first ever president of candidate 1976. the teachers unions had half the delegates to the 70 jimmy carter. when jimmy carter was elected president turned around and gave a gift to those very same powerful teachers unions and the

nea and the aft openly bragged at that moment there would be no department of education without the teachers union. from the very beginning that apartment has been a creation of the teachers unions and politically they have tried to make it impossible for people to understand that to get rid of it because your anti- education. which was a problem so many other weak kneed senators and congressmen of that era who would be willing to make that move. i hope you're at a point because of how corrupt the unions are especially after covid that being against something like the department of education can be decoupled from being against itcation they have corrupted so much they have created an opportunity to exposebe it. parks we have time for one last question i'm sorry will go over here. >> thank you. my grandkids are homeschooled. which have started to learn a lot about it. my granddaughter is a sophomore

at hillsdale. it's a lot of stuff out there. he provides courses for kids through high school's online courses you can take no charge. it's absolutely wonderful. it's amazing in that college is hard to get into. they have a tremendous student body. they have a code of honor like a military academies. you break the code you're kicked out. she lied to her mother, big mistake. so i get the phone call. she lied to me. about not doing homework. so i called my granddaughter ann i said lying about your homework

not too good but not doing your homework simply a problem for you to fix a problem. lying to your mother is a character flaw, you have lost your confidence. never do that again. so they interviewed her looked at the code we missing a thing to thing be there? and she said don't lie to yourself. grandsons just made an eagle scout this month. >> congratulations. looks i was just talking to jason on podcast about the book of prayers talk about his friend trey gowdy and his friend treyhi gowdy said all of my years of prosecuting i have never prosecuted. he gets a question about education he says do know what?a i've never had a prosecutor homeschooled kid or an eagle scout. we've got two of them here. but as a testament to parentsg have been ahead of the curve of

one to december for their kid. another's more online options before and get to a critical mass. were popping out three, four, 6% of graduates in this country the part of the leadership team of the nation progress each of there would have an opportunity to say hi to pete and david. book setting or have heading to now pray on behalf of this terrific audience want to say thank you so much. [applause] ♪ weekends on cspan2 aren't intellectual feast. every saturday in american history tv documents americas a story and on sunday book tv brings you the latest in nonfiction books and authors. funding for cspan2 comes from these television companies and more. including charter communication. >> broadband is a force for empowerment. that is why charter has invested billions building infrastructure, upgrading technology, empowering opportunity in communities big and small