in a good morning everybody but the committee will now come to order for today we represented the budget reconciliation set forth in title to the h. con. res. 14. fiscal year 20251 big beautiful

bill. it goes back to 1974 the communities responsible for combining reconciliation recommendations submitted by the following communities. agriculture armed services workforce homeland security judiciary national resources oversight and government reform transportation and infrastructure and our committee most powerful committee in congress other than the budget committee the ways and means committee. we are to have bipartisan support. we meet today to report the build of the house without any stubs to have divisions and has the authority to make substandard changes in report the reconciliation bill is recommended.

i've reached out to my friend mr. boyle. ranking member can each take five minutes five magic minutes for an opening statement in members will then each be recognized for three minutes. we will proceed then with the motion report to the house recommendations submitted to the committee on the budget pursuant to reconciliation and h. con. res. 14 the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2025. any requests for roll call vote on the motion to report the bill with motions to instruct will be postponed until later in the markup. all motions instructed as concluded. we will consider maximum of four motions to obstruct an emotion to enhance and these motions are nonbinding. if the chairman of the budget has arisen many committee to make certain amendments. they will be total of 10 minutes of debate equally divided. each will be recognized for four

minutes and upon the will be recognized for five minutes before the proponent uses their final one minute to vote but without objection, so ordered. i now recognize the vice chairman from the commonwealth of pennsylvania. mr. treman consent determined the authorized to declare recess at any time. >> without objection so ordered. like to thank everyone for joining us here today to undergo the import and responsibly the budget committee and advancing this reconciliation bill to the house of representatives quote without any substantive substantive provision" manfred will move to opening statements they gild myself five minutes for opening remarks. folks i've said this from the beginning this reconciliation bill is the principle

legislative vehicle for dancing if all america first agenda. realize president trump's vision and the house republicans unwavering commitment in making america safe and prosperous again. making our border security and end up making our laws enforced again and by making our government efficient and accountable again. by making the economy free again by making america and american energy dominant again and by making work and the dignity of work and self-reliance an american value and by making the sacred treasure of our citizens responsible again. today we stand on the precipice of a generational opportunity to make an investment in the safety and security of the american people. by equipping our border patrol agents and their sons and

daughters in the armed services with the tools and resources to safely and successfully be the first and most important job of the federal government to provide common defense. we also have an urgent responsibility to put in place the policies to unleash economic growth and future prosperity reigning in wasteful spending to begin restoring the fiscal health of our nation which has been in rapid decline in the last couple of decades. i want to thank speaker johnson, leader scalise and conference leadership team for your patience their resolve and a steady hand throughout this process. i'm grateful to their commitment for regular order ensuring from the very beginning to vary and this would be top-down exercise and a member driven process but i want to thank my colleagues and the chairman of the 11 communities who worked tirelessly to meet the fiscal

targets that this budget committee established in our resolution. no other budget committee and know what the congress from either party in the history of this budget committee has done more in a shorter period of time and with the reconciliation of an issue. the reason we were able to is because my budget committee republican budget committee colleagues and the seriousness and diligence for which they do their jobs. their commitment and their conviction to our mission to restore fiscal sanity in this town and in the people's house and in this institution. i just want them to know i've never been more proud of the committed patriots to public service.

i-budget reconciliation bill is a product of your hard work folks the of your labor. if we are going to advance the most comprehensive tax reform in the history of our great country and other progrowth policies that will rein in the regulatory state and will help right size the people government and will begin reining in this runaway spending and after all is said and done we will reduce the debt to gdp by 10 percentage points. all of this while making record investments in the security and defense of the united states of america. this one big beautiful bill but is only one big beautiful and balanced bill because of the folks that you see up here on

the dais my republican colleagues and their hard-working leadership. everybody our party or country or fellow americans we serve because of your efforts and by the way we did it with the smallest majority in the house in 100 years. in washington people say when all is said and done more is said than done in me that not be true of the 119th congress. today let's make good on the american people's mandate. by taking president trump's america first vision and this america first policy agenda in making them a reality in the lives of our citizens. the american people have spoken and they want a strong country. they want competent leaders. they want common sense policies and they want from all of us a commitment to putting america

and americans first but let's give the people what they voted for. with that i yield five minutes to my friend ranking member mr. boyle from pennsylvania. >> thank you mr. chairman could we will agree that this is a big bill for billionaires. we will hear over the course of this hearing of vigorous debate and frankly there is a strong divide between republicans and some other republicans. there is also a divide between both sets of republicans and this side of the dais. i can speak at least as to why does every democratic member will be voting no on the bill for billionaires. simply put, besides all of the

other important issues involved in this bill this is the overarching truth. it is the biggest tax cut for billionaires in american history paid for by throwing 13.7 million americans off their health care coverage. no those aren't my claims. that's not subjective. the nonpartisan congressional budget office just this week confirmed that at least 13,700,000 americans will lose their health care if the gop bill for billionaires becomes law. that is bad economic and unconscionable. even conservative republican senator josh hollie called it morally wrong. i can't believe i'm saying this but josh hollie is right. as to the part where they the bill is for billionaires you

would hear throughout this debate as we heard often over the course of the long markup republican after republican members say we must pass this bill otherwise the text that's won't be extended for the american people. that's a argument and democrats on the ways and means committee proved it and here's what i mean. over the course of an 18 hour debate markup that began in early afternoon and last until avm the following morning, decided i'll offered amendment after amendment to protect the tax cuts for every single american making less than $1 billion. do you know those to make a billion dollars a year or more or less than 0.001% of the

american people? every democrat voted for that amendment and every democrat voted to protect the tax cuts for at least 99.999% of the american people and every republican voted against it. the reality is this is delivering the biggest bounty of tax cuts for multimillionaires and billionaires in american history, pay for on the backs of the poor and the working poor and the middle class of this country. the american people were asked in a poll not long ago do you support cutting medicaid in order to pay for tax cuts collect 81% of the american people said no. the majority of democrats, the majority of independents and here's the thing the majority of republicans even said they opposed this radical agenda. you can see why democrats have

proudly stood united against this piece of legislation. this will do real damage to the american people. you know how republican colleagues have been on a 15 year quest to repeal obamacare and this piece of legislation, they will come closer to their ultimate goal than ever before. i've referenced a 13,700,000 americans who will lose their health care if this bill passes. about half of them -- half of that comes from decimating the affordable care act. folks, we know what happened eight years ago. they had their repeal of the aca to pass the house of representatives but then the senate of you brave senate republicans stood up with the famous thumbs down. i hope there'll there'll be if you house republicans who will join with us either today or on the floor because that's next

week and to protect the health care of millions of americans and say no to the big bill for billionaires. with that i yield back. and i think the ranking member and i now recognize members for their opening statements. i want to start with my vice chairman and just say how profoundly grateful i am for his steadfast support and strong leadership and commitment to our common cause to reining in this runaway spending in washington to reignite the growth that we so desperately need to usher in prosperity and to secure our children's future. i know nobody in this chamber for in this town is more committed to that venue and i'm thankful and with that i yield three minutes and thank you mr. chairman and want to begin by recognizing your leadership.

this would not have gotten to this point without your strong leadership and also the work of the committee and republican members of this committee to get to this point while considering this historic bill. when they pass this bill we will prove that we can deliver substantial tax relief and meaningful spending reductions at the same time. this one big beautiful bill delivers conservative wins all across-the-board and it provides once in a generation tax relief to hard-working families who need it the most. and just remember this when democrats said make good on their word to vote against this bill they will be voting for a 22% tax hike on average americans and every taxpayer. they will be voting for a reduction in the child tax credit.

they will be voting against an additional 4000-dollar, $4000 in tax relief to seniors. they will be voting for a tax increase on every small business in america. this bill supports main street businesses by cutting job-killing regulations, reversing biden era overreach and empowering entrepreneurs to invest to innovate and to create jobs here in america. it protects vital safety net programs while demanding accountability ensuring cuts feared i would choose to efficiently for this bill is a full summit of her promise to change the way washington operates. for the first time in years we are delivering real measurable reductions in federal spending 1.5 trillion direct savings. those cuts are just symbolic. the first step in restoring

fiscal discipline and changing the trajectory of our nation's debt crisis of this -- the republican members of committee should be proud of the work we have done to get it to this point. we are showing the american people that conservative governance works. it is possible to reduce spending and provide tax relief and protect core services for the most americans all at once. in fact the bill we are voting on today secures more savings than any other reconciliation bill in american history. and it protects families from the start tax hikes as well unrestrained federal borrowing. this is an important bill that delivers on the mandate given by the american people and i urge my colleagues to vote yes on this transformative legislation. thank you mr. chair and i yield back the. >> i thank the gentleman from

the vienna recognized for five minutes my friend from texas. >> republicans talk fiscal responsibility but they practice the responsibility for this big beautiful bill are full of details. mr. chairman there's actually no fiscal sanity as you referred to it in this bill. what begins as a fortuity and dollar bit of public borrowing to the nonpartisan committee for responsible federal budget likely end up adding almost $7 trillion to the national debt and the republicans are stone silent on any justification for the trillions you're adding and you only want to change the subject when it comes to more and more tax breaks for those at the top of the billionaire class too much is never enough even when it produces fiscal irresponsibility. this bill is laden with budget busting part for every well-connected donor from

silencers to banning salons. even "the wall street journal" editorialized this week quote it's largely a political document focused more on massaging 100 constituencies than helping the economy grow. the libertarian cato institute it's not significantly pro-growth critter will reduce investment tax wages and have little impact on total national income. americans living comfortably with $1 million or more in annual income would get 310 times more of this those benefits than those earning $50,000 or less. if there is a way to provide all of the bills benefits, the good, the bad and the. to provide all of it to 90% of american taxpayers and still cut this proposals cost in half. just limit the benefits to those

who earned 400,000 or less annually. this would mostly ask elon musk in the billionaire class, the richest 2% of americans to pay the same tax rate that they pay under president george w. bush and under president barack obama simply going from 37% to 39.6%. unless you were totally bubbled into the billionaire class that's not too much to ask of republicans. the bill devotes $20 million to undermining of public schools with a new form of private school vouchers but it rains are planted and business opportunities with their view of renewable energy credit and expands trump's ability to destroy opponents by denying their tax status and it denies health insurance coverage of 14 million americans. it's all ponies in rainbows according to one k street lobbyists but for families which

along storm cloud rolling in fast as they lose access to food security and educational opportunities. trump is not worried because it's not a new qatari jet which he and his billionaire friends can fly off into the sunset. i yield back. >> i think thank the gentleman from texas and i now recognize mr. tom mcclintock from california for three minutes. >> thank you mr. chairman. but i share the disappointment expressed by some of our republican colleagues. they are so much more reform that could have been and should have been made in this reconciliation bill. but as benjamin franklin reminded the constitutional convention and assemble a group of people who benefit from their collective wisdom who will get their collective -- we asked such an assembly can perfection be expected? he noted the principle difference between the catholic and anglican church is the

catholic church was infallible and anglican church was never wrong. but i reminded them as sure as we have our own infallibility we must doubt a little bit of that infallibility that will ever be able to come together for the common good. in the common good is clearly served by this bill with all of its imperfections and disappointments. the only economic indicator that matters is how people answered this question next year. are you better off today than you were two years ago? this bill provides much of the tax and regulatory relief that is needed to revive the american economy but it has to be put in place now if it is to have time to work. by this time next year americans could be enjoying one of the most explosive areas of growth in our history but only those remember what it's like to wake up in break-ins mourning in america can know how exciting and joyful that feels.

are we to sacrifice all of that in the quixotic quest for perfection? this is not the end of the fiscal were forms necessary to restore a nation solvency but rather the first step. after this bill becomes law we will begin work on the 2026 budget act and the next reconciliation bill that will offer the next step for enacting additional spending reforms. if we falter and taken his first step we can get to the next one. we will waste the summer squabbling and fuming to the delight of the democrats into the despair of the american people. if we succeed we can build on that success in the months ahead adding additional spending reforms made easier by prosperous and expanding economy and an electorate that can taste the success in their own lives and fortunes. lincoln said it's not in any of us imagine better or can we all do better?

we can't escape history or we will nobly lose the last best hope of mankind but he said we must -- and then we will save our country. let's do that today. i yield the floor. >> i thank the gentleman i recognize mr. bobby scott from the mother of all states virginia. thank you mr. chairman. i think that someone from the commonwealth of -- the virginia commonwealth, thank you. thank you mr. chairman. it's hard to take my colleagues and the other side it out seriously when they give speech after speech after speech complaining about the deficit and then support this reconciliation. it increases the deficit. this should not come as a surprise because every single

democratic president and presidential administration since kennedy has left their republican -- a better one than inherent in every republican presidential since nixon has left the worst deficit situation for the democrats than the one they inherited. all without exception so here we go again. a republican president following a democratic president republicans are here to make speeches about deficits and debts and that's the increase to the national debt like clockwork. the reason we have all this debt is because democrats have not been able to clean up the republican masses as quickly as they make them. this bill not only increases the deficit makes working families families -- and particularly outraged republicans want to find tax cuts for corporations and billionaires by making cuts

in educational and nutritional programs. taking resources from public schools to serve 90% of the students and divert them to private schools. it will also harm children's access to school meal programs and makes it harder for students to afford a college education. so there's nothing fiscally responsible about this budget and working families and middle-class families will pay the price. programs to keep kids seniors veterans and people with disabilities from going hungry in ensuring students receive a quality education should not be on the chopping block. after weeks of favors from republican members or the budget they voted for twice does not cut medicaid this bill will rip away health care for millions of americans using medicaid and makes health care more expensive for everyone else. this big bill is a collection of

bad policy. he kicks millions of people off their health care threatening food security for much of families make it harder for students to afford education taxpayer resources from public schools. does all of this to give corporations and wealthy billionaires a tax-cut and then it makes hard that. i urge my colleagues to vote no on this legislation. >> i think the gentleman i now recognize my friend mr. carter from georgia for three minutes. >> thank you mr. chairman thank you for holding this meeting here today. let's face it folks president trump inherited one big. and what we are doing now is fixing that with one big beautiful bill. we are fighting to get this nation back to the level of prosperity that we enjoyed during his first term when inflation was low the border

with secure and our nation was energy dominate. that's why it's not just important it's essential that we deliver this one big beautiful bill that will put the united states back on track and reestablish the american dream. the golden age is upon us thank goodness. i'm proud that we are getting that done here in congress. without the work we are doing here today the american people will see their taxes increase. the highest increase they will ever see that's why we are getting this done today. we don't want that to happen. we simply can't keep living in a row for government organizations such as the epa hand out billions dollars with zero oversight and accountability. that ends now and thank goodness we have gutted epa's ministry here is going to end that. one of our former colleagues

doing a great job. we can't ignore the cliff we are heading towards. this bill will preserve and protect and preserve and protect strengthen stabilize sustain critical programs such as medicaid from waste, fraud and abuse so that they work for the americans who most need it for generations to come. that's right what we have done and energy commerce committee where stabilizing and we are securing and we are susining the program that is intended for the most vulnerable in our society. instead of prioritizing illegal immigrants are ineligible recipients would encourage states to use medicaid funds in support the most vulnerable americans and that's what medicaid was intended for. this bill will help american citizens keep more money in their pockets by removing the

tax plan tips in overtime. and the timer where biden era inflation continues to linger house republicans are ensuring that hard-working americans keep more of the paycheck that they ride the layered. today we take another physical step towards delivering on a mandate that the american people gave us last november to cut waste, fraud and abuse and will secure critical government programs for decades to come. this is our opportunity and we are going to take it. thank you mr. chairman and i yield back. >> i think the gentleman and i now yield three minutes to my friend from california mr. scott peterson. >> think mr. chairman. unfortunately this is from a budget perspective the disaster of united states despite the flowery language here. every year the country has been racking up $2 trillion of debt and that means the deficit deficit to finance it unless we

do something about that will grow from 36 to 38 to 40 to 42 but despite all the cut to hear about none of them are applied to lowering the annual deficit number that had stored national debt, any of them. they literally by the order this committee rejected the use to used to offset the cost of extending and adding new tax breaks for people. that's why this does not reduce the debt. in fact independent analysis of the responsible federal budget says of the next 30 years this will add $37 trillion to the national debt, $37 trillion. we got the sense that the secretary treasury says we need to get our debt down to 3% of gdp and get out of the soul. today without this law it will take $7 trillion of savings and revenue over the next 10 years. there is nowhere near any of

that going to add the cost of this bill, this budget busting bill that number goes to 11 or $12 trillion over the next 10 years. this is not going in the right direction at all. there are alternatives and first of all this is their bill and this is the way the wrote this bill in 2017. democrats have nothing to do with the expiration of these tax cuts. that's how they wrote it in 2017. they voted for this. you have alternatives because if you look at the tax rate from 37 to 39.6 incurred on people who earn more than -- those people are working for $2 per $100 most people can afford that tax increase and helps close the gap. when the republicans lowered the corporate rate from 35% which so

many people agreed here was to hide a 21% that went well past with the republican -- the race set up against 25% as republicans wanted back then that's $500 billion republican 21 at enforce the tax cuts we have a big difference between what we owed them will be collected is $697 billion in what are we doing about that? we see doge cutting irs ability to collect those. this is irresponsible. it's wrong and we need a bipartisan process that deals with revenue cuts. i yield back. >> i think the gentleman and i now yield to glenn grossman for from wisconsin for three minutes. >> thank you. first i'd like to me by the

minority party today. i don't consider josh hollie a conservative. so i just wanted to straighten that out. i think we have an opportunity here to have a truly transformative bill and i think in january that's what most of our expectations were. we were going line by line through the entire federal government recognizing the fact we are borrowing 26% of our budget and thereby removing a lot of the programs that are out there now. my senator has done a tremendous job planing what should be done and what can be done politically but i also feel there should have been more. i talked aloud about the low-income tax credits and those types of things and all the

concerted think tanks and all the ridicule but miraculously we will be voting today to increase those tax credits. this means too many people here were not the wonderful bill for so many of us were expecting in january and february. in any event i -- voting for this bill and in order to be placed on this committee you have to say you will vote for the bill and the fact that they are delaying the work requirements and medicaid there was a lack of sincerity. nevertheless there are some good things in here. i think the country would be better off with the bill passed to not pass but it's rare you

have a house in the senate in the presidency but i think the closer we get to the election the more windy politicians become for this could have been a lot better but i will be voting for today. >> i thank the gentleman from wisconsin and i yield to her friend from california for three minutes. >> thank you mr. chairman. i think we all recognize how difficult it is to craft legislation that balances fiscal responsibility with economic growth but i think we can all clearly see that this legislation is not the way to do it considering you completely out the debt and deficit and you thoroughly fail working families to pay for tax cuts for billionaires. i mean look at the distribution tables alone for this bill. .1% stand two and 55,000 in 2027

alone. that's $700 every day for that .1%. yet for those earning less than 50,000 per year the average benefit is only $265. that's less than 1 dollar a day. that's 310 times more benefits for billionaires. the consequences of this bill go well beyond that and they are well-documented. 750 billion to come at 715 billion that legislation was/were medicating a portable care act which health coverage from nearly 14 million americans. the film is the deepest cuts to food assistance in the history of united states flashing s.n.a.p. benefits for nearly 11 million americans and for what? in addition to being stuffed with gimmicks the bill offers tax breaks for gun silencers. it not only feels fails working

families and undermines america's economic security and it explodes our nation's fiscal foundation. in order to do everything the president promised in order to cut any of the benefits for working families this bill would add close to $7 trillion to national debt but it will decrease interest rates. it will make everything from buying a home to financing a business partner. the nonpartisan cato institute had stated the bill is likely to decrease growth by 26%. nowhere near enough to offset the fiscal damage brought on by this legislation. in fact this bill is expected to reduced investment over wages and have little impact on the total national interest so as i see it this bill represents gutting benefits for working families giving tax breaks to billionaires giving into exploding our national debt and

giving up, giving up on the fiscal health of our nation and therefore giving up on our obligation to our children in our country's future and that's why opposed this bill and show should you. thank you mr. chairman i yield back. >> i think that someone jim and i yield three minutes of our friends -- to our friend mr. cline from virginia. >> i will respectfully disagree with my friend and colleague from california. this bill puts us on task to fiscal responsibility but but ts bill reverses the spending spree of the democrats over the last four years. this bill writes isis the bureaucracy that still reigns in mandatory spending for their many wins that should be commended within this bill that will provide americans with a tax and fee that lead to stronger investments and greater economic growth. this includes making the

individual tax rate permanent so that no one should have to worry about a tax hike unless the democrats are the ones imposing it on the american people. this latest bill includes provisions that will prevent blue states from laundering your tax dollars to subsidize the health care of able-bodied adults and those that are here illegally. strengthens medicaid to ensure health care is available for those who are in need and the elderly and disabled population. this package will decrease the deficit by roughly $160 billion in reduced the debt-to-gdp ratio by 10 percentage points compared to the baseline. this is a great bill however think it's important to acknowledge in the midst of the marathon mark-ups and all the hard work that's been done their many viable fiscal reforms left on the cutting room floor. this would include fiscal provisions to strengthen 2nd amendment protections for americans to eliminating the federal tax burden moving it

from them firearms act and their many others i won't mention. today we will focus on the positives. we have an amazing piece of legislation here it's going to do so much for the american people and putting our country on the right course. by passing this bill we say we saw the opportunity shepherded through the process and continue to work on improvements to ensure we will deliver the strongest results for our constituents back home but i thank the chair for all of his work and i think the vice chair for all of his work and all those on the committee and i yield back. >> i think the gentleman i now yield to the gentlelady from new jersey for three minutes. i believe how we spend their money reflect their values and republican values don't care about others than billionaire

corporations and individuals be people want health care and they want food security and education. so i speak in strong opposition to this bill that we are marking today. we came together in favorite to markup this resolution democrats began to ring the alarm on what was being proposed for your told not to worry no specific cuts were much mention the resolution and now few months later we have a bill and it does exactly what we feared it would do for democrats said the bill would take away snap from needy americans we were right. $1 billion of the cat from this vital food assistance program which can lead to 11 million people going hungry. democrats in this bill would give -- kick people off medicaid and the type we are right about that too but but this bill cuts $15 billion from the program and 13.7 million americans health care for democrats to the tax

cuts will go to the rich. we were right again. 27 individuals making over 1 million of the year will see their combined tax liability decreased by $96 billion with an average household making $16,000 a year will see a tax increase of 19% along with the most well-known problem with this bill there a lot of other things as well. the bill taps studebaker strick spell grant eligibility eliminates supplemental retirement for federal workers reduces the funding of the consumer financial protection bureau of public lands to pay for handouts to big oil eliminates critical programs like liheap and builds the presence border to the name of view. my colleagues and the other side can say with a straight face

this benefits them or can people come it only benefits those like elon musk and jeff bezos. i have over 120 and 24,000 constituents who rely on medicaid of which over 60,000 are children. these are real people who have to face the real-life consequences of my colleagues. just imagine telling the children that they don't have access to health care so some guy can adjust the cost of their private jet. my eyes this legislation is illegal and i don't see how any of my colleagues any conscience could vote for this bill. we must stop it before it can pass out at this committee. i ask all of you join me in voting against this monstrous package. thank you mr. sharon i yield back. >> i think the gentlelady and yield three minutes to my friend from the hoosier state. >> thank you mr. chairman and thank you for your leadership in

bringing us to this point. been working for a couple of things here and i hear the other side saying that this is tax cut for the billionaires in the rich. if you go to page 179 you have no tax on tips. you know how may people we have in our districts that work hard every weekend i may be a part-time job and they make $200 a weekend. they don't have to pay taxes on that. that will be a huge boost to their family budget. no tax for overtime. we are giving credit to those people who are willing to go out and work the extra hours to make ends meet. no tax on overtime for the tax for the working person's country no tax on a car loan there are a lot of tax cuts for every day americans and the other side wants to keep talking like it's only for billionaires but i guarantee there's lot more voters who are every day americans than there are

billionaires. obviously it's not a perfect bill and that some of us on the side would unlock further and we have concerns about some of the reforms that we didn't make and have the opportunity for that this bill does make significant progress in protecting the life of the unborn and the still no federal dollars will be used to support abortion practices and services of so-called community health providers like planned parenthood. the fundamental right to life of the unborn should be protected and i'm glad to see a consensus across-the-board have this provision included. i want to go back to medicaid, many states use medicaid program into deserved the multiple wearable as a way to launder federal funds at their disposal but federal spending on california's medicaid program exceeds the entirety of florida's entire state budget. think about that. california's medicaid program is larger than florida's entire

state budget in 2025 the federal government will spend almost $190 billion on medicaid just in california and florida. i'm sorry california and new york alone. this is over 32% of total federal government spending on medicaid. its out of control. even with the spending states like california and new york far less on vulnerable vulnerable populations that may be one able-bodied adult and illegal aliens. medicaid should be for u.s. citizens only were most in need and not for states to bolster their own budgets at the expense of all other americans. i want to say this is a great start to getting our economy back on track watching president trump travel around the world bringing back trillions of dollars to america's going to suffer our economy and letting americans keep more of their own hard-earned tax dollars is going to make a big difference and i'm glad to support this bill. i yield back. >> i thank the gentleman and i

recognize ms. stacey plaskett from the virgin islands. >> thank you mr. chairman and my fellow member of the ways and means committee which is the greatest committee and the congress. we have come to the end of a very long week here in washington and anyone watching the likely watches we work through the night. starting tuesday the ways and means committee will spend 18 hours working through the night into wednesday trying to avert catastrophic impacts that this legislation will have. we watch republicans give away the farm to billionaires, ceos and corporations making permanent tax cuts to the richest and trying to trick the rest of americans with a set of miniscule measures that are all temporary and only serve to pull the wool over taxpayers i over taxpayers eyes. that overtime taxpayer talking about is temporary.

tips, temporary, taxes for the wealthy, permanent. don't be fooled. it's about the wealthy people of this country not you and me. our republican colleagues on energy in commerce committee has tried to rip away health care from americans that need to pay for their giveaways to big corporations. republicans are stealing from the poor and giving to the rich feeding the king from the peoples forced from their own community while posing as robinhood. my colleagues talk about a strong country. we are going to be weaker because of this legislation, you can believe that and listen when democrats were in charge we instituted so many things that expanded work for all americans. increased health care we guaranteed affordable high-quality childcare for every working family.

they supported new energy and we supported growing this economy. democrats to really expanded the tax court -- child tax credit giving so many children a chance and we did this because we were concerned about the deficit. listen i'm concerned with the math. i'm concerned with the programs and manufacturing. those are important to me. that represents trillions of dollars that they have cut. if they were really interested in being fiscally responses -- responsible then don't give such big cuts to the rich and try to actually try to balance the budget and acts to try to bring down the deficit. you want to take all those things away from the neediest take away some things from the rich as well but you don't want to do that. you want to give them more off of the facts of the american people. you're going to cut snap by $300 billion medicaid health care for the poorest

$700 billion. you won't even give a cut to individuals making a billion dollars or more which would have taken away a trillion dollars we could put back in the other states. this is about the wealthy and that this is not about the american people. i yield back. >> i think the gentlelady and i now yield treatments to her friend from utah. >> thank you mr. trevor bring us together for this important and long-awaited step in the budget reconciliation process and i appreciate the mark-ups scheduled during the daylight are hours that won't go viral again. this process across all operating communities has been years in the making. those of us on the ways and means committee have been working on this working on the potential for this opportunity for over a year just dedicated to this one moment right now. we are excited to be able to

deliver real results for all americans. the reconciliation process is not easy and certainly not perfect. reversing washington's debt culture has been one of my top priorities in joining congress. we have to break the habit of appropriating inefficient processes and re-worker process so we can put together strong budgets with them but for more members for more communities and we are getting 11 communities involved in this for in this for the look for today when congress votes on 100% of the budget every year rather than leaving two-thirds of our budget on autopilot. this is a big step to limiting that future debt growth. we have no other opportunity to address mandatory spending than to do this through the budget reconciliation process. our members have put in substantial work landmark legislation for the history books but in locks the largest to mandatory spending in history but almost four times the record

set under speaker gingrich in the 90s at the time we have the narrowest margins in history. we are also making reforms to programs that have grown so much over the years that there is no other opportunity that you can do it under budget reconciliation and there is obviously still more to do. thank you again speaker johnson and chairman of the members who have contributed to making this possible today. we are here to make edits to the committee's work and that some option but i look forward to reporting the bill of our budget committee into the next step in getting it out if a house of represents but above all else is just anyone watching how this bill is a product of months of deliberation in negotiations. my colleagues and i have voted on the three times and we respect the process to bring us these results etc. check for their goal is to set targets and we did more than an hour -- we

need to undergo this exercise really. this is not a one and done even if we want to reduce our debt-to-gdp ratio but i want to thank the leaders and the leaders and the reason with able pull together $1.6 trillion. significant i look forward to going for the film i purged my colleagues to support a night you back. >> some of the ways and means committee decided to chip in and equip your chair with an electric shocking mechanism so that would not happen on our watch. it's also a bipartisan proposal. to my friend and fellow texan i recognize ms. escobar or three minutes. thank you mr. chairman nye but to address the american people. here we are on the press at this a passing the biggest tax breaks in american history for billionaires and we are being funded by cutting services and

programs to the american people, hard-working americans. in fact this bill represents the biggest cuts to medicaid and nutrition programs in america's history. mr. chairman nye remember when we were here debating the bill at the onset and nearly every republican said oh no there will be no cuts to medicaid. that's not what we are doing. we know for a fact it was stated that that's what was going to happen in the fact that's why many of my republican colleagues are afraid to face their own constituents at town halls because the american people know they can see through the smoke and mirrors. in fact republicans are still saying that this bill only impacts able-bodied americans who refuse to work. it's not true and you don't have to take my word for it. let me read you what they republicans have said he and

this is a quote. we are not talking here about just work requirements. the house goes much, much, much further than that. this is real medicaid benefit cuts. no were public and should support that. we are the party of the working class and we need to act like it end quote. that was republican senator josh hollie. he even called this bill a tax on hard-working americans. so i agree with most of what josh hollie said. i would disagree that republicans are the party of the working class. democrats have supported paid family medical leave affordable high-quality childcare universal prepaid extended child tax credits health care expansion making the wealthy pay their fair share. every republican in the last congress voted against that. they are not the party of

hard-working americans. this bill doesn't just benefits from hard-working americans, it hurts future generations by adding $7 trillion to the national debt. they are literally borrowing money from the future so that billionaires can get their big tax breaks. that's not working or protecting hard-working americans. that is crushing hard-working americans are making their lives harder. this bill doesn't make america better, it makes americans sicker, poor and hungrier and that's why we will all be voting no. we urge some of their colleagues to listen to their own constituents who do not want them to pass this bill. chairman nye yields back. >> i think the gentlelady and i yield three minutes to my friend from kansas.

>> thank thank you mr. chairmen and be here with my colleagues as we work to advance the america first policy embedded in this one big beautiful bill. the bill we are. it's a culmination of years of work to extend the tax cuts and jobs at secure our borders and rain in wasteful washington spending. the bill that meets them and they provided to the congress by the american people last november the bill for the american people. my friends on the left have tried to paint this legislation is something that it's not. today want to take a brief moment and refute some of the lies. first let's look at the his torrid -- have for my republican democratic colleagues were here in 2017. i remember the quote nancy pelosi claimed the middle class would be receiving from the trump tax cuts. the reality for thousands of dollars in lower taxes increased wages and stronger economic opportunities for americans of all economic levels.

unpacted this year wrote an op-ed about the tax cuts and job site. i'd like to submit that off the two the record. >> without objection so ordered. and i said then your times noted in 2019 most americans receive the tax cut from the 2017 tax reform that simply didn't believe it. they are quote was to a large degree the gap between perception and reality on the tax cut appears to be a sustained and misleading effort by liberal opponents to branded as the broad middle class tax increase. in 2021 penthouse democratic caucus chair hakeem jeffries told "msnbc" 83% of the benefits went to the wealthiest 1% and they saddled us with approximately $2 trillion in debt to subsidize the lifestyle of the rich and. the statement is so that the "washington post" upgraded >> check from to pinocchio's to

three and called it a zombie clip. that's because jeffries and the democrats lined up rejection that would have been after provisions when the act perspired the same republicans are trying to save today and the democrats are trying to stop. the flow of misinformation is convinced a broad swath of americans they did receive a tax cut which they did in the same kassig deceivers is trying to promote the extension of the law is a tax giveaway for and billionaires which it is not. the joint committee on taxation to americans making between $30,080,000 would pay 15% less in taxes in 2027 under our bill. nearly double pair percentage than those making over a million dollars but nevertheless we are seeing success in our fiscal and financial security but but thisk we learned the annual inflation rate is low as it's been since joe biden took office four years ago. let me be clear prices are too

high and impact the impact of inflation on americans are hurting people. the pro-family pro worker pro-growth provisions is critical to preventing -- to secure our border and curb spending. think i think the john from kansas and i yield three minutes to the gentlelady from vermont. how could i miss ms. ilhan omar from minnesota? i apologize. some oversight apologize. an oversight assure you. i've been hoping you'd be moving here to take the ranking member spot at some time in this hearing. ms. omar you have three minutes. >> thank you mr. chairman and i think we are a happy with the ranking member on this side of

the aisle. we hear republicans talk about a big beautiful bill and i think this is a big bill. let's call it what it is. the largest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in u.s. history. this reconciliation package proposes devastating cuts to medicaid and snap. my republican colleagues will tell you they are just going after waste, fraud and abuse the let's be clear the only way to/this much safety net spending his by making it harder for people to survive. they are changes will kick millions of americans off their health care and assistance. that means more and treated illnesses more hungry children more preventable death. this isn't just for line items in the budget. their people's lives that sacrifice human dignity and life

itself and for what? so your billionaire friends can get $300,000 in tax cuts, so we can expand tax breaks for corporations hedged funds in wealthy heirs? and that's not all. this bill includes plenty of other harmful giveaways like new mining leases on public land. where were the duffel for funding of i.c.e. and more money to line the pockets of military contractors. this whole proposal is held together by gimmicks designed to hide the real cost of showering for rich with permanent tax breaks. i say permanent tax breaks because the tax rates that you have for working people in america are not permanent. some of the most harmful provisions like work requirements don't even kick him

until trump leaves office because you do not want the political package that comes with that which is why you've been hiding from your constituents. this is not a serious budget is the green light for dora dorianism for inequality to run rampant grade it's a police state budget wrapped in billionaire tax cuts. we have to be real with the american people. the brakes they are telling you were going to have won't take place but if you make less than $50,000 you will get a 1 dollar tax for today. if you are billionaire you were getting 700 tax break every day. that is not the bill the cares about working people. it is not an america first legislation. the billionaire first legislation we should all vote against it. >> i think the gentlelady and i now yield to our friend from the tar heel state edwards for three

minutes. >> thank you mr. chair. after hundreds of hours working on this, this is not a big beautiful bill that i had hoped for. but it does rain in mandatory spending and ever stores program integrity and finally begins and only begins to right size the federal bureaucracy. it blocks irresponsible student loan bailouts and implements long long overdue workforce reforms to make government more efficient and accountable. aligning federal benefits with private-sector norms. tighten eligibility for the entitlement programs. we don't eliminate those. stop subsidies to illegal immigrants and establishes meaningful work requirements for

able-bodied adults receiving many of our benefits. these are just cost-saving measures, they are fairness programs and integrity measures. importantly this package invest and what truly matters to get their troops to raise strength of their national defense and that secures our border. it reignites economic growth by extending the tax cuts and jobs act. unleashing american energy and rewarding education that delivers value. this bill delivers on the promises made to working americans by eliminating tax on tipson overtime raising the standard deduction raising the child tax credit and offering no tax on car loans and it respects our aging population with tax breaks for senior citizens who have been productive working members of our society all their lives.

we are making tough choices here pointing to her former programs could at least and rejecting the biden/harris overreached and will responsibly increase debt limit and will prevent defaulting on our nation's debt for the first time in our history preventing the economic catastrophe. mr. chairman the flaw of this bill is it doesn't go far enough and fast enough to get our fiscal house in order but it does take great strides. let's take the story today and pass this bill and go to work next week and take it greater and bolder steps. thank you and i yield back. >> i thank think the gentleman i associate myself with his remarks on work still to be done but it is a step in the right direction. thank you mr. chuck edwards. we recognize the gentlelady from vermont myths balint for the

budget is a reflection of our values our priorities but we do is important that who we view is the most important. this republican reconciliation package is. it makes deep cuts to medicare, excuse me medicate. millions and millions of people will lose their health care because of these cuts. hospitals across this country will close because they won't be able to meet their margins. medicaid is that margin. my republican colleagues have voted twice in the previous budget and they made steep cuts in medicaid and they said over and over again we are not cutting medicaid and yet here we are. my republican colleagues are making cuts to medicaid and millions and millions of people are going to lose their health care. that is the reality of this. it's not just a budget it's also a one and why do i use the word?

these cuts to medicaid and the food assistance program are being made to pay for massive tax breaks for the very wealthy. its food and health care biz versus giving to more people who don't need medicaid and don't need food assistance so it's and it's and despite being lectured by republican members of this committee ever countries to visit this adds trillions of dollars to the deficit by i'm not making this up trillions of dollars to the deficit being added. kids and veterans will go hungry and hospitals will close but the rich will get richer at the expense of our children and grandchildren who will shoulder the burden of that additional debt. americans overwhelmingly do not want these cuts to medicaid and the food programs. 81% say no and when they see the

full impact when they realize what's being done they will be outraged because it is a victory absolutely. americans can't pay their rent right now. grocery prices are too high prescription drug prices are too high but costs are going to continue to get higher because of trump's tariffs. this is trump's economy and it works against working people for this but is not for working people is not for the middle class and it's not for those folks we have in our districts living paycheck to paycheck. it's not for rural amenities were health outcomes are the worst. our constituents are struggling we are supposed to be their voices on this committee. let's not add the struggles of people back home. our constituents deserve so much better than this. americans are fed up with the way they are being treated. i yield back.

>> i think the gentlelady and i got three minutes to her friend from north carolina. >> thank you mr. chairman. there had been some rumbles over the last 24 hours but one thing remains steadfast come at the end of the day republicans will deliver on the mandate given by the american people and put forth one big beautiful bill. where are we seeing a different country under president trump. border crossings are down 90%, inflation is at its lowest rate since 2021. with egg prices down 10% in last month in gas prices down 12% from last year. the bill before us today includes many provisions that will double down on president trump's agenda in prosperity. the ball when did was follow the mainstream press it would be easy to get distracted by the

debates over various provisions. this morning i want to remind my democratic colleagues with this legislation is really about. this is about providing tax relief to millions of our constituents and preventing one of the largest tax hike in american history. it makes historic investments in our country's border security. if you don't believe me or where they scoffed at that notion i ask you to learn about how many families like mine have lost a loved one to fentanyl smuggle across our southern border. this is about fairness. no more illegal immigrants getting free health care paid for by my constituents. that's wrong and everyone here knows that. while another will be likely updates in this legislation as it continues to process the main components will not change. let's provide tax relief for people who need it. this is a big beautiful bill and the course correction that we

need to make a generational investment in our ford securing let's unleash american energy like we did during president trump's first term. let's prioritize taxpayers over illegals. mr. chairman i'm proud to support moving this big beautiful bill through the process and i urge my colleagues to do the same and i yield back. >> i thank the gentleman and i yield three minutes to the gentlelady ms. marcy kaptur from ohio. ms. marcy kaptur from a high zero. ms. kaptur for three minutes. >> thank you mr. chairman. budgets are about american values. this one is lopsided in

dangerous. the bottom line is a bonanza for billionaires. let's admit it will add $7 trillion to our national debt. that means over $40 trillion. we are saving any money here folks. that trillion dollars will largely benefit billionaires and from where does this legit take the money? let's begin with the most glaring danger. this bill takes a wrecking ball to medicaid in which one in five americans and 3 million ohioans depend for medical care children, seniors and nursing homes. this is a nursing homes i represent the veterans, yes over 200,000 across the country and people enduring physical and mental disabilities. perhaps many on the other side of al have not had to endure life that had major challenges. medicaid is a lifeline and

taking money from this program to hand out tax breaks for billionaires who simply don't need anymore, this bill stuff the pockets of plutocrats and secures america's information of billionaires by billionaires and for billionaires. i dedicated my service in congress to defending social security medicare and medicaid because i've seen with health insurance means in real people's lives. medicaid means life or death. i challenged my republican colleagues to meet some of my constituents and perhaps you'd represent a different segment of america. ohio nearly 3 million people depend on medicaid. children, seniors and nursing homes people with disabilities and they were putting them all at higher risk. why give them more worried?

a mother with an autistic son how does she make it? health care is not a luxury it's a basic human right. bill's damages and end with medicaid delivers $2 trillion in permit tax-free funds to the wealthiest 1%. don't they have enough in to talk about tips and overtime, please. i'm from a working-class family. these aren't even permanent and they are a small% of what this bill delivers to those who have multiple mansions all over the world and multiple aircraft all over the world and the boats a ride to either italy or switzerland on the east coast to the west coast. ..

northern part of our country very heavily because our largest trading partner is canada. this proposal will not do anything to help the large number of people that i represent him make under 30,000 dollars a year and depend on programs like medicaid. in terms of food let me just say it with a snap, what a travesty this is to cut those benefits to people. food has become extremely expensive. >> it bullet gentle lady wrap up her remarks your minute over them trying to move this along. >> thank you sir. let me just say on the food front we already lack protein in the boxes that go to seniors.

we cannot balance the budget on the backs of those who are the least among us please reject this proposal and protect all of american public for the gentle lady parts thank you. >> field three minister mr. moore from the state of north carolina. >> think it mr. chairman and a member of the people made their voices heard. they're fed up with the status quo in washington demanded real change. they expect us to deliver on it. they gave congress a clear mandate to reign in out-of-control spending, streamlined the blow to bureaucracy and deals our national debt. this bill will tackle the 36.4 trillion dollar national debt. that's exactly we're doing on this budget. big beautiful bill put an end to the end of hard earned tax tax dollars per the fuel american prosperity this process works ... just like a set of my home state and many other states. we know the hard-working folks

of this country are counting on this. at the end of the date this budget will achieve four-point to trillion dollars in a savings that is huge for for decades washington simply is not focus on trying to save money. this bill finally does that. the debt to gdp ratio will decrease by 10% points compared to the baseline. this bill goes even further cuts spending it also expands 2017 trump tax cut. these key provisions on the average constituent north carolina 21% tax hike. her family of four at the median income is an additional income tax of $1800. this is really for every american hurting from the destruction of our economy. we'll see it happen with high taxes and overspending we saw for four years and the mass the absolute mass this president this congress inherited.

we know we have to for example make permit the small business deduction 76000 small businesses in my district alone and in districts all around this country. if we do not do that that means are going to have a roughly 23% increase in the tax. also going to unlock an estimated an additional small business gdp growth. this bill was make permit the relief ensures generational businesses without being penalized unfairly by taxation. one big beautiful bill is all about results but it creates jobs and boost wages. an investment in america future. we would fight for them and we are. the present during a tremendous job look at the prosperity

coming. peace through strength giving all these companies to finally respect america again. with that i yield back. the state of washington. >> think it mr. chairman. one beautiful but trail of the working class and poor americans who were told that donald trump would lower prices and make their lives easier. despite both trump a speaker mike johnson telling the american people over and over again they would not touch you medicaid this bill makes at least 625 billion dollars in cuts to medicaid and it kicks 13.7 million americans off their healthcare. it makes life harder for most americans and raises costs around basic economic needs.

he got to ask why? why are they doing this? it is all to give the richest americans over $7 trillion in tax breaks almost 300,000-dollar tax breaks to anyone on the top .1 of 1% of the wealthiest. $68000 tax breaks for anyone who is a millionaire nearly 70% of the bill benefits go to the top 20% of the wealthiest americans. but you, the person who relies on medicaid the most essential healthcare program in america that serves a 72 million americans including 38 million kids are the family that relies on nutrition assistance of literally $2 per meal because you are hungry customers you are out of luck. nobody if your basic needs but medicaid pays for newly half of all births in the united states including by the way a whopping 64% of the births in speaker spr trenton home state of louisiana.

at pays for 60% of nursing home stays across the country. i makes it possible to see a doctor when they are sick for moms to afford the medication that their kids need. for parents to get necessary care for chronic conditions and for seniors to get the long-term care they need. meanwhile this built sacrifices all of that why? to increase profits for the largest corporations from the private immigration detention centers to get almost four times the amount of money that used to get to illegally detain even u.s. citizens to the giant multinational corporation that/stash the profits overseas into big pharmacy. basically if you had a big corporate lobby right here in the halls of congress you get a tax break. otherwise you are [bleeped] out of luck. this bill is a perfect example of how america has never suffered from scarcity. we have always suffered from

greed. americans were promised lower prices and a better life. and instead billiards will get to buy another yacht and the lives of working-class and poor americans will just get harder and harder. a vote for this bill is a vote for billionaires and keeping people off of medicaid. i may [bleep] know on this. i yield back. >> i think the gentle lady and now yield three minutes to my friend and fellow texan who set a fantastic job, played a key role in fashioning the initial framework we called the budget resolution. i want to thank him for his service mr. chip roy three minutes. >> i appreciate my friend from texas were there my democratic colleagues go again telling things that are not true for the vast majority of americans will get tax benefits under this bill it is simply false to say that's not true. hard-working americans will bend from the standard deduction increase.

in lower tax rates, stop saying things are not true. those things are true. the fact is we have money near the border to undo the damage of joe biden we have money in your for the defense to undo the damage are divided. we also address medicaid and medicaid spending goes out. stop lying. medicaid spending goes up. my colleagues on the other side of the aisle are profoundly unserious when it comes to being a real about what's happening with the numbers. i applaud my colleagues and thee other side after taking a step forward for any of the spending problem in this town. this bill falls profoundly short. the fact of the matter is on the spending but we are dealing with on tax cuts and spending a massive front loaded deficit increase. that is the truth. that is the truth deficits will go up the first half of the budget window we all know it is true. we should not do that. we should not say what were

doing something we're not doing the fact of the matter is this bill has savings and frontloaded spending. nowhere near the budget top line senate budget top line six and half trillion dollars which by the way as they wait they were pre-covid inflation-adjusted on interest, on medicare and social security we could get to the core of the problem. but we refuse to do it. i am not going to sit here and say everything is hunky-dory when this is the budget committee. this is the budget committee. we are supposed to do something to result in balanced budget. but we are not doing it. look what happens under deficit by the way this chart includes growth this chart demonstrates economic growth right here what do you see? baseline and the columns of the deficits under the house a budget assuming growth.

only in washington are we expected to bet on the calm that in five years then everything will work. then we will solve the problem. we have got to change the direction of the sound into my colleagues on the other side of the aisle that means touching medicaid. over 40 billion in 2019 to 600 billion this year will be over trillion and 2030s. we are making promises we cannot keep. we do need to reform it. seven times as much money to the able body why are we sickens the vulnerable population the disabled and set? to give money to single able-bodied male adult. we should not do that we should reform it. guess what, on this so they'll too. we are writing checks we cannot cash. our children are going to pay the price. i am a no on this bill in a series of forms are made today, tomorrow, sunday. were having conversations as we speak but something needs to

change or you're not going to get my support. i yield back. >> we have done a pretty good job of conducting ourselves professionally. if you've got sidebar comments either side usual three minutes the sound off okay question. >> mr. chair we are not allowed to use the word lying about one another either that the corm should go both ways. >> out rather encourage people not to say that everybody's got to be responsible for the things they say in this committee. i also associate myself with mrk is still left undone and i look forward to joining him and making sure we strengthen many of the spending reform measures before the ink dries. but with that i recognize ms. judy chu from california for

three minutes. >> mr. chair there are millions of americans today who live in fear that benefits and resources they rely on today will be gone tomorrow. they respond to the very real needs of their constituents and mine. republicans are turning their backs on everyday americans of the problems they face instead of forging ahead with the bill that will make their problems much much worse. this bill is morally and fiscally reprehensible republicans are exploiting the deficit and guiding the programs that are most vulnerable rely on to hand trillions to the richest. with this bill republicans are all literally taking foods out of the mouths of the port to feed the rich. republicans are claiming this bill helps middle-class people with their meager measures like lifting tax on tips and overtime

but guess what, these provisions expire. the tax giveaway to billionaires our permanence. what happens when they do happen you look at the joint committee on taxation distributional analysis. yes they are nonpartisan they have looked at what will happen down the line six years from now when those provisions expire in 2031 the poorest 20% of taxpayers in our country will owe an astonishing 455% more in federal taxes. comprehend that 455% more that very same year the top 5% richest in our country will see their taxes go down by 7%.

a huge profit for people who do not need it. republicans are selling out the american people taking money out of their pockets. ripping healthcare from 14 million people that have aca and medicaid coverage and letting millions go hungry for what? to hand out trillions the ridge richon the backs of struggling americans? if that is not reprehensible i don't know what is. today i think of my constituents from pasadena who has staged five kidney failure. she relays on medicaid, snap and social security to keep a roof over her head. and continue her treatment. nancy deserves better and all of my constituents deserve better and so do yours. i oppose this republican budget scam and i will never vote to

kick my constituents like a nancy author healthcare. this is shameful and i say no to this bill i yield back. >> i think a gentle lady from california and i yield three minutes to the pride of the palmetto states. >> mr. chairman i want to thank you for the job is done on the budget committee of held fast in cap this committee going. i want to thank you and give you the credit for great leadership. for friends on the left when he classified this what you're being untruthful. you say however you want to say because they were cutting medicare and social security simply untruth. you cannot cut social security what this boils down to her areoperating in two different universes. you think that tax money is yours government is your god. that's the bottom line you have if you support to train break

this country with 15 -- 20 million illegals in this country to pay a price and are continuing to pay a price. where are we on this bill? the tax money is the taxpayers not the government bureaucracy. so many good things are happening but you can is class warfare bridge, poor, black, white, 77 million people told her that you are off-base and you are still off-base. but here is the questions i would ask mr. chairman i know you know this. is it right for healthy able-bodied americans that could work, that don't work? over 25 million healthy able-bodied americans that don't work is it right to have a paycheck? i don't think so. if it right if you're an illegal alien the right side of this i'll my democrat friends let let in this country if you are an illegal is it right to have

illegals cashing checks with money we don't have? to face this invert for years were telling a healthy body of healthy americans your four years to get a job. no, the payment stops now but if you are in a legal the payment stops now. on the ira, a lot of these credits have been existence for 3040 years talk about giveaways we went to help those who really need help. the heart of this, sadly i'm a hard know until this gets ironed out. we have made progress but it takes time. if we continue just a way mention able-bodied americans get checks illegals getting checks subsidies that go that should not get them i am out. thank you, mr. chairman for what

you've done in thank you for this budget committee i yield. >> i think the gentleman from south carolina and i yield to new york for three minutes. >> think it mr. chair i am in strong opposition to this big cruel immoral and irresponsible deficit driving bill. it was worth it to endure approximate 26 hours of the energy and commerce markup on this bill. fighting against the forces that want to make everyday americans sicker, hungrier and poorer. unfortunately those forces are the republican majority the president of the united states the richest individuals known to man. on top of the countless crises in the throes of housing and cost-of-living emergency and in the face of catastrophic climate change set to make the largest cuts to health care and environmental policy in american history. were also massive win for all

the big tech oligarchs who paid millions of dollars to buy access to the trump administration. it is clear instead of serving the american people republicans are here to serve a big business interest and tech industry executives who want to move us away from liberal democracy and tort assistant or they rule supreme. right now lack access to clean drinking water at home. infringe on state rights to regulate a.i. and industry on the track to consume more water than small countries. for 10 years, 10 years all while children are killing themselves at the behest of chat box, a.i. generated are pushing disinformation globally are energy grids are strained beyond capacity. this gift is not budgetary my colleagues on energy and commerce successively put on the

record. there are too many things wrong with this bill 13.7 million americans will have healthcare ripped away kids, seniors, veterans people disabilities will go hungry communities relying on ira energy tax credits clean independent rules willbe left abandoned big oil me out like bandits crossed the country are hurting you do not fix the cost-of-living crisis by punishing the people already burying the brunt. one thing is certain mr. chair, i will not stop fighting for my constituents all of the americans whose lives will be destroyed think the gentleman i yield three minutes to my friend from oklahoma mr. josh is not here. okay structurally ready to go

andrew clyde when you stop at whispering people's names in my ear they're not in the chamber because it looks like a don't know what the [bleep] is going on in my committee. [laughter] golly. probably for my mama okay who wants to go over there on the side? all happy to take their time and correct some of the things pickren would start yielding your time to the democrats. [laughter] i accepted. the most popular republican chair for democrats will not bode well for my future.

from oklahoma you have three minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. apart from being someone who represents the way i operate in this building and being a good husband and a great father to my children something stands out to be more so to is to be a person of truth i think some of us are having consternation's this morning because of feeling like there's truth on both sides of the blueprint is also true the $50 billion was added this not part of the blueprint the instructions fully met its true that element is lacking that has to be reconciled not in truth with the blueprint laid out the second part to be a person of truth and when you look at that's the decision before us today it's people of truth to the score is pan out?

but i thought open and oklahoma my time in the state legislative body trying to repeal wind tax credits 60 lobbyists from italy and spain involved diverged on the capitol. it took from 90s as the governor discussed the 2018 eric we were trying to repeal these was never intended to last as long as it was a promise to end many years from now which never materialized. and so it will be have a measure for start date for ending his four years from now, we also have elements out of zürich currently stands we can enter a project in 2031 as a production entity. to be a person of truth i know there will be a lobbyist to descend on this building will get the savings up front from years no is a champion is no

longer in office. purposely designed not challenging anyone's character grateful to the speaker to figure this stuff out to get to the truth. my consternation as patrick henry once said i have one is the lamp of experience i know of no other way to foretell the future them by the past. can you look at these timelines correct for the true appeal that's undermining our electric grid% of all new generation wind and solar. the super majority is of those components are coming from china. undermining natural gas jobs all over this country.

we have to fix this. i appreciate chairman, speaker right now is we are talking trying to figure this out to be a person of truth thank you i yield. >> quick thinking from oklahoma who is indeed a person of truth. now wield three minutes to her colleague from the commonwealth of kentucky. for three minutes. correct thank you, mr. chairman. as the old saying goes you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. my colleagues across the aisle pretend this bill does not drive up the national debt. thomas massie, josh hawley conservative think facts and now roy admit the truth the budget drives up the national debt by trillions. also donald trump billion or donor buddies play less and less in taxes. i strongly oppose this not just because it's bad a budgetary

policy and it is a bad policy. because at every turn republicans of shipped debt over decency and cruelty for compassion. they've chosen to make those on the margin, our children and seniors and those who have the least poor, sicker, and hungrier. it is immoral. their tax plan further increases wealth inequities. under this plan families in kentucky who earned $24000 a year will get a 70-dollar tax break. not for tank of gas or two. a family in the richest gets $255,000 tax break. enough for a new lamborghini. it keeps getting better for the richest of the rich. republicans make the tax cuts for billionaires permanent. but get this, the tax cuts for working families temporary. ensuring in 2029 taxes will actually go up for those who work for a living. i'm in the same bill that

exempts and gun accessories republicans make medicaid patients pay a sick tax everything to go to the doctor but that's assuming the self medicate. the republican plan will struggle kentuckians and so much red tape that 640,000 adults in the commonwealth will be at risk of losing their healthcare. is not just taking off your medicaid if you live in kentucky get your families health insurance to connect republicans are raising your premium spine average of $700 a year. a budget is a statement of morals. republicans admit their morals clear. they care more about driving you and our country into debt to give donald trump donors permanent tax breaks to pay for it, kids in kentucky will go hungry. nursing homes and hospitals will click close millions of americans be kicked off their health insurance. it is wrong.

i am voting no i employed my colleagues do the same mr. chairman i yield back. >> oxidant the gentleman from kentucky and yield three minutes to my friend from georgia mr. andrew clyde three minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. house republicans have a once in a decade opportunity. once in a decade opportunity to deliver real conservative change in washington. congress was late out bold priorities including tax relief of working families and small businesses major investment in border security strengthening our military unleashing american energy reforming federal programs to protect the most vulnerable in restoring second amendment rights. were committed to ensuring the final package is fiscally responsible rightsizing government putting our future back on track. unfortunately the current version falls short of these

goals fails to deliver the transformative change that americans were promised. substantial improvements were needed. i look forward to working with this committee and are house republicans congress to make sure we deliver. as a second amendment defender i promise to defend the myconstitution, my constituent second amendment rights. today excise taxes transferring making taxes are imposed on every fire are regulated under the national firearms act. as chief justice john marshall worn in 1819 the power to tax involves the power to destroy. he was absolutely right. these taxes have enabled unconstitutional regulation and registration of the national firearms act exemplified by the biden administration dangerous rule which turned millions of law-abiding gun owners many veterans into felons overnight. historic opportunity to repeal the burdensome taxation

registration regulation of short-barreled firearms both rifles and shotguns and suppressors under the national firearms act american people are watching. it is time to deliver additionally house republicans must put medicaid at a sustainable path by refocusing the program on the truly vulnerable. >> and under obama federal government pays dollars for every 1 dollar spent largely emily bodies working aged adults simply will not work that's unacceptable, it is time the republicans prime targets medicaid for the vulnerable over

the able-bodied and important the current reconciliation package fails to reverse this misguided funding scheme provides care for the most vulnerable, very people medicaid was originally intended to help for these reasons, how many but to support this package in the current form. i look forward to strengthening this bill to ensure that it does pass so that we fulfill all of our american responses to the american people thank you and i yield back. >> and think you and out three minutes to prime minister from old rhode island. >> thank you mr. chair and took eight days for neil armstrong the land of the minutes and 52 days thomas jefferson, the founders to sign the declaration of independence and it took 92 days, republicans to concoct a plan to take over 13 million people off of healthcare and 11 million people able to dream of higher education for over

4 million people and just out the wealthiest of our country had their pockets and they started the process in february, sinema just are a reflection of values we were told now the world conceit goes cool values on full display and in this very room the republicans think about their fighting to strengthen medicaid. they do not have to touch of time the program's benefits but it gets medicaid as we know it and lead to hospital and nursing homes in this budget also takes food off the plates of hungary families the majority claim this bill poses loopholes and snap that's it makes it harder for about 21000 rhode islanders of the table. president trump said that i will rapidly drive prices down we will make america affordable again and this bill will not into makes healthcare more costly and food more inaccessible in college more expensive. all of this to give tax breaks

to the billionaire buddies like elon musk and republicans say will make american families and workers arrived again and yes and household earning less than $15000.0 see their taxes skyrocketed in the 19 percent while millionaire will save $82000 on their taxes this does not help american families and workers thriving republican say there's one big beautiful built no, this bill is big but beautiful as a with lipstick and it's a broken promise the betrayal of the american people and i urge you to vote no med i do -year-old back. >> i think the gentleman from rhode island i think you we've gone through all of the opening statements at night do want to ask you to join me in congratulating is a daddy for time, just had a baby when was

it last friday ventilation. >> city once and will help us old social security medicare one per retiree anytime. >> just one make that clear. [laughter] [laughter] >> okay, and if you would like to send a written statement folded open for into they took may have not prepared recent statements and going phone, receive it with proceed with reporting of this bill coming to the house include will now the title of the measure to be reported to negative health provide the reconciliation pursuant to title to house concurrent resolution 14. >> without objection first review builder dispense with considered as read section 310 congressional budget act of 74

requires a budget committee report reconciliation bill to the house and without any substantive provision in the consideration to the mill prohibited therefore motions to amend development not be entertained recognized by sermon from visiting from parcel one of reconciliation to thank you in the movie coming in the reported bun big beautiful after the recommendation that the bill we passed tech ordering one big beautiful block be reported favorably to the house doesn't ever say i and those who oppose say no. >> no. [laughter] [laughter] in the opinion mature. >> rollcall to the consent agreement will postpone this until later tomorrow. >> now we will all the long-standing custom this committee and entertain motions to instruct the order specified

in the agreement was made available to the members pursuant to the agreement made with ranking member dictate of these limited 210 is equally divided one minute reserved for the proponents to close mr. chairman ranking member intimate time in each of these amendments can be shortened and you know what that means but without objection so order i would also like to more members motions are not actually hear from bill that are not binding on the rules committee and is there a motion to instruct. i have an amendment at the desk clerk. >> i'm sure entry motions have motions at the desk distribute copies of the adjustment the motion offered by representative valid two moves that the committee of the budget directed chairman to request on the behalf of the committee of the rule for consideration of the bill make an order an amendment to start all sessions of the bill is made up of the congressional budget office to

increase the number of individuals without health insurance. >> representative, if you already you now recognize performance thank you's motion today because we have to draw the line and americans told us they do not want caps to medicaid medicaid covers over one in five americans medicaid covers seniors in nursing homes and children with disabilities low in comparison working people mean we cannot afford private health insurance and these are not abstract numbers, these are the people we know people in our communities and the people in our families, if this budget passes, millions of these people will be stripped of healthcare and that means ms. cancer screenings and insulin and that they are having trouble getting there medications and treatments means kiss without ♪ ♪ without medication and

shutting down rural hospitals and nursing homes in closing of meal programs mental health resources at school and passing this budget means fewer residency programs to train her next generation of healthcare workers an issue that i know that regardless of your district that you care about in this is not about reducing the deficit and we both covered that earlier incident and offensive at this point, to be moving forward with cutting medicaid bring people off their health insurance as i said 81 percent of americans have said that we do not want this, are we doing here, they do not want this. this is not about working americans over this budget is about something entirely different which is giving breaks to people who do not need it and once again i urge my colleagues to reject this cruelty you'll balance over time to that member moment. >> mr. chairman, i support everything a mccauley just sent

and i think that adjusting table five the fact that this is one of the most torturous mean and cruel things we do that must need intercountry in my district alone affects 128,000 people and 60000 of whom are children. and this makes our country more sick and makes our country for create shorter lifespan for those who could be enjoying life more we had this commitment to serving the needs through healthcare. this is not privileged, this is the right and republicans are doing us right. and i yield back. >> i think it gentle lady and i will ask there any members would like to cook and okay. >> alike and yield back in less

my member needs to speak on the. >> are the members who would like to spend time in opposition to this motion. >> mr. buddy carter with the chair healthcare subcommittee on the energy and commerce committee and the floor is yours. >> thank you mr. chairman it is republicans have said from day one, we are committee to reducing waste and fraud and abuse them and then health care programs like medicaid, why, because every dollar wasted a loss or broader abuse the doll that should've been providing healthcare coverage the most abominable, the americans medicaid is the under 70 medicaid designed to support america's most vulnerable low-income pregnant women children those with disabilities in the elderly and disabled is finding women the democrats created the system were stay sorry reward for diverting limited federal medicaid dollars to cover illegal immigrants and

able-bodied adults who choose not to work in the obama care medicaid expansion about the states such as california does your medicaid funds to legal and business your company will spent $8.4 million medicaid coverage for illegals gentlewoman vermont, the 7.6 million that the projected news of insurance our the energy commerce committee which i serve on report that 4.8 million able-bodied adults fusing to work on 1.4 million are illegal immigrants in 1.2 million are people who already own an eligible to receive medicaid benefits under existing on 200,000 our anticipated huge medicaid enrollees, not people currently covered under the program and this is why i urge you know out on this amendment and i yield back. to the gentle

lady from indiana. >> and thank you. we are committed to ensuring that mongol americans are protected and that medicaid is designed to support thing that helped that they need in every dollar spent on illegal immigrants is refusing to work as a dollar spent on people who need it most. the dollars taken away from the pregnant mother thinking and seeking meant necessary here and we should not forget that this is still also reinvesting these savings to expand access to healthcare for all americans and so greatly expand health savings account and allowing more americans the opportunity to save tax-free dollars to cover their out-of-pocket cost the bill employers of all sizes, more tools to spent healthcare options printed bill invested in new cures and physician pay too short then americans can access high-quality healthcare and the

pharmacy counter at the offers from openings comes in solutions during in the waste, fraud and abuse and in federal health care programs medicaid billing chores and federal health programs work for the most vulnerable making sure taxpayer dollars are not siphoned off for fun legal immigrants, fraudsters and people refusing to work and instead, he redirects those dollars to help taxpayers improve access to affordable high-quality healthcare and urging no vote and i yield back. >> and the remainder of time i like to say a few words on this subject because you listen to my colleagues you would think that we reno getting the program and throwing people off and leaving them uninsured and here is the reality of working people store the tax dollars and they suspect were doing a very good job of it and they are right, they also expect us to make sure we have a

sustainable safety net most loanable americans into the future and is nowhere close to being sustainable like many in this government, and the first place to start the first place is to stop the improper payment not according to be back gao over the last two years has been over $500 billion predict in 2023, he was $50 billion in one year and that is waste and fraud and abuse. and tens of billions of those dollars and abuse have gone to people who are in this country illegally and help is just one number but according to the numbers usa, the total cost of social services to the people here illegally is $9000 per illegal immigrant is more than we spent on american citizens who are in need of the safety

net of medicaid. and that is unconscionable, a lot of the reasons they do not have time to articulate, that we have to do rooting out waste in this program and is unacceptable that this the largest means welfare program almost 100 when the total cost of about one and a half trillion dollars the people's government, has no requirement for able-bodied people to work and neptune to be a baseline expectation for people who can and are able to work is so proud of the work that are public my colleagues are doing we can do more like this is a good start any old now for the closing comment my colleagues. >> thank you you know and i just have to house alex, have you talked to rural hospitals and have you talk to rural healthcare providers because the

phone for months now and they are very very concerned about cost of medicaid and how it will close rural healthcare facilities. rural healthcare facilities are relied upon medicaid dollars, since they open those of represent rural areas coming you know healthcare outcome for people who live in rural areas of the worst in the nation. some of the human vermont, wearing kentucky or in rural indiana, your role rural healthcare providers need medicaid dollars to keep those facilities open and so i urge you to think carefully before you support this budget because you are hurting your own people back home and their access to healthcare i yield back. and thank you's mega think it gentle lady from vermont and now the

question once again is no, the question now is on the motion all of those in favor signify by saying i and those of josé no an opinion return the nose habits to ask for roll call vote is requested bipartisan unanimous consent agreement with postponed postponed totally soon thank you. >> i think it gentle lady now is there a motion to instruct mr. chairman motion at the desk. >> motion is at the desk clerk will report the motion sample distribute copies of the motions to promotional offer my representative and the committee on the budget and determined to request on behalf of the committee and the role for consideration of the bill we can and amendment to implement president trump's request to raise income tax rates for millionaires. >> okay, let me just give a

little time for the distribution and i will come back. >> for medicine the when we close okay. >> okay if you are ready, for medicine get to the opposing side if there is one" with one minute. >> and thank you mr. chairman and last friday residents from called for tiny tax increase in the rich recent top tax rate back to 39.6 percent. but the bill before us today is difficult call to action in fact it makes a lower rate of 37 percent minute motion is simple, given the president's request and in his joint address to the congress, president promise to pass tax cuts for everybody and if the bill before us today certainly does not benefit everybody and households that are barely creeping by earning less than $15000 a euro see the taxes skyrocketed by nearly 19 percent under this

bill and that is no tax cut but a millionaire, they will see another $82000 in their pocket in 2027 and you are right yes republicans will increase taxes are most vulnerable americans were making the rich even more rich and incentive their tax scheme to the riches, the 1 percent by pulling the tax loopholes, republicans are seeking over 13 million americans off of their health insurance and taking away nutrition assistance from children in this argument here making healthcare and accessible i think the children go hungry pretty this is not what the american people needed they need or want some of republicans wanted help in working people, think fulfill president trump's request, to raise the income tax rate for the millionaires never be focus on making the rich even richer and with that i feel the two minutes to walmart. >> and thank you congressman and i this in my opening statement and it bears repeating as

enacted be the largest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich and u.s. history. in this bill like we've been talking about has a record $750 billion in cuts medicaid the affordable care act and nearly 14 million americans but is healthcare coverage pretty because there ineligible but because of red tape zydeco push them out. and why i'm punishing children, so that 0.1 percent can get as much as the bottom half combined in america colleagues proclaimed that these tax cuts for everyone sure, their tiny and temporary scraps for everyone else and do mean tiny people earning less than $50000 a year will see less

and 1 dollar and benefits. but if you are a millionaire, you can now $700 that day. and now, when those tax benefits for the working people finish under the weight of the higher taxes and program counts, guess who will still come out ahead, the wealthy and well-connected millionaires and billionaires will get their massive tax cuts and they are permanent pretty and i know that there are republicans here who agree this is unfair and wasteful and reckless the last people who need another taxpayer subsidy the ultra rich thoughts race that top tax rate for those who reported and pass this common sense motion thank you and i yield back.

>> i think digital lady and ask if there any members who wish to oppose. >> mr. chairman. >> mr. iran estes from kansas. >> this motion to research is based on several false promises about bill has posted of our nation and for some address the notion that we have a revenue problem and this is the tired and a false claim the left continues to use because they do not like the idea tackling our greatest spending tax revenue is consistently been in the 15 — 1e spending is 24 percent of the gdp countless inspector general's report and independent studies have concluded that taxpayer dollars and virtually every agency across the government bipartisan talking point that even president clinton obama and biden if he is to get elected saying they would root out waste and fraud and abuse some republicans committed to meeting meeting this

aggression issue since cuts acting job second 2017 revenue was actually increased by nearly 50 percent this many as a pasted rising by 70 percent and we need to increase taxes this conceiving to the american people, we need to address outspending problem forget what happened alex pushed through federal dollars and were the so-called american rescue plan so-called inflation reduction act and misnomer meant to mislead the public had inflation skyrocketed and any so-called a relief was getting from the government, is getting eaten up by the higher prices that outpaced wages is been rising actually distributing wealth or social is to simply let americans keep more the hard earned money and keep the inflation low is on the inside now like to. the bogeyman had successful americans x-rays tax the rich use of the americans and for false narrative italy wealthiest

pay more taxes elevation problems could be magically solved the problem of the narrative is that is simply not based on fact braided economist in from policy advisory board, pointed out in 2024 off at their said inverse relation between taxes rates and paid and right now the top 1 percent pay nearly 40 percent 46 percent of all taxes from 40 percent before they cut the highest rate but when the tax rate was 70 percent at the end of the carver administration, the top 1 percent of taxpayers only children develop 19 percent tax and human i would like to cement the often art leffler for the record. >> without down objective disorders mccleary to have high taxes must not forget have x-rays for the lowest x-rays those numbers in this country is in percent in summary just already much higher at 37 percent pretty and must not forget the policies they did for

the middle class real wages percent group price fast as a top 2 percent their wealth at the bottom 50 percent of the household growth three times faster than that top 1 percent in 2017 tax reform but to 5000-dollar increases in real household income and 5 million jobs and higher investment across the country this motion to instruct mills priorities misrepresented bill for real americans nothing possibly wealthy is no taxes on tips, overtime card interest entity expense child tax credits and provides relief inflationary burden in the last four years seems average american $1700 equipment land about nine weeks of groceries and increases will take home pay for median income households with two children roughly $4000 — $5000 raise real wages by 2133 per worker is making between 30,080,000 payroll 50 percent less in taxes

in 2027 tax bill report by the person joint committee taxation and the building is so much more and talking point with men and promised by this legislation, to stay focused on growth and opportunity middle-class prosperity help text to rich policies urge about it like to yield remainder of my time. >> and i would like to take kelly for me to sign and probably going to read by that of the sake of this motion misrepresents both parties political gesture, and ignores the fact that she phrases some of which we were my dear colleagues at all that falls into the history and peer list

example will show through like sunshine for soft on this bill is not about the wealthy is about delivery relief to the workers and families and seniors small businesses in mont my colleagues that mentioning that these billionaire tax tending bitterness, donating a lot of money, i don't know about you but in ohio, and city, i would be hard-pressed to find somebody is billionaire that has a slot that has attending that is so let's just give you some of the facts 92 percent of the people in ohio less congressional district see the guaranteed deductions session help if we do not pass this bill to have 20 seconds. >> and the other income child tax credit, if you reverse back, that would be a thousand dollars to 2000 that we get 2017 but we did more and additional 500 look

this bill is good in a $4000 deduction for our seniors and colleagues to both know. >> you get an extra medically of tumors to close ask anybody in your side they want,. >> and thank you. my motion assembly will add — to the dangerous bill and then on the topic of revenues, must be very very clear the revenues generally having kept up with the increasing spending demands driven by our aging population and resulting in the increasing costs mandatory spending is so, bush tax cuts the trump tax has not happened, who would have $10 trillion more in revenue that occurred to log revenue levels when a pace with the spending. and so this motion the request from the president, but by implementing his proposal to raise the income tax

billionaires, be able to agree on this but it is the case of this motion won't solve everything in this big will still make bad publican bill is still strips healthcare of over 13 million americans and puts one in four sippy is at risk of losing benefits with snap and is still a betrayal of the american people thought my motion will make the bill slightly less fiscally irresponsible surge my colleagues to fulfill president trump's wish to make the rich, pay their fair share and i i yield back. >> i think the gentleman he is back in the question all those in favor signify by saying i and those known opinion does have it i request bipartisan consent agreement, and is there another motion. >> mr. chairman have a motion at

the desk to met mr. mcgarvey has motion in the clerical read the motion reports on the motion and staff distribute coffees and we will get right to that about 30 seconds human a motion by representative mcgarvey mr. mcgarvey moves that the many of the budget directed chairman to request on behalf of the committee for consideration of the bill make an order and amendment to start all sections of the bill estimated by the congressional budget office to reduce participation supplemental nutrition assistance program. background sounds >> mr. mcgarvey, your four minutes in the one posting i think you might motion and starts the chairman to strike every republican provision that will kick americans out snap the nation's premier antiterrorist program and 115,000 people in jefferson county kentucky woke up this morning not knowing where the next meal will come from. there is three quarters of a million people in the

commonwealth of kentucky in the same situation at 200,000 of them are just kids pretty and for many of these families, is not a luxury is a lifeline publicans are using this building turned out lifeline away the budget is not just cut snap no no no it is the largest cut ever proposed in the history of the snap program and will make 11 million people go hungry including children, seniors, veterans, adults with disabilities, even single moments. they're not stopping at kicking who program, which leads onto the states and my state of kentucky have to come up with $190 million to break cuts to services is equivalent to the gossiping 2003 and 54 kentucky public school teachers. in the gap we simply can't not filled and is unconscionable the

same but which republicans do so much to ease the tax burden on billionaire spoke of really a little bit to working people to work so hard to away from working families and children but they now come for the next meal as well read some of like to build my colleagues sooner thank you for yielding and high-rises strong support of the mcgarvey motion to dismiss cruel proposed cuts pretty and healthy changes to the snap program these cuts would hit working families that partisan parents juggling multiple jobs and hourly workers, try to make kids make. caregivers justin foot table punching people are doing the best, composes expanded burdensome requirements to those already working and federal cost under the states already struggling to serve their community and pendant trillions

tax breaks and refunds to the wealthiest americans must be clear, food is not a luxury it is fundamental to life that includes assistance for those working artist is hereby is not the american way forward reject these harmful provisions heading for the working families remove the short i didn't just and cruel foodie cuts and i pursed to support this motion and send that dignity help of the american people think you and i yield back. >> she yells and gives their any members would like to claim time in opposition and the motion. >> mr. klein from virginia five minutes. ...

we agree is a vital nutrition assistance program. it ultimately must be strengthened and protect those of benefits for the truly needy. i think we would all agree. the other side might. it's currently unsustainable role from 36.42 million today. the overall cost of the program has grown by 83% ballooning from 60 billion to 110 billion annually. making matters worse the program cost has ballooned, so has his improper payments. payments to people who should not for administer the programs

people who not should not be receiving a 2024 usda reported 10.5 billion in improper payments. representing 11.7% of snap spendings. some states exceed that significantly in 2023 new jersey haida state error rate of 35%. alaska had a state error rate of 50%. 60% errors because snap is one of percent funded by the federal government. enhance program integrity interesting at modest cost share model this bill incentivize states to reduce fraud more closely aligned snap with offederally funded state administered programs. integrity to work requirements and staff. due to abuse of waiver authority 16% of able-bodied adults without dependents meet existing work requirements.

fort states including california and illinois hopeful waivers in place. there is no work requirement. this bill strengthens existing work requirements closes loopholes for work capable households make more responsible choices. and finally, let me reiterate this bill does not cut benefits. it reforms included simply strengthen the program's integrity and sure it's fulfilling congress' original intent. sections targeted by the motion are not arbitrary cuts they are essential corrections carefully considered and debated. this committee must ensure the truly vulnerable not sustained broken systems is this motion to instruct would allow. i urge a no vote i killed my time back to the chairman. quick's two extra minutes.

that will make government not managing it well. you got a minute to close. quick's think it mr. jim. contradictory statements weird somebody says would beat no cuts to snap. but the spending is not sustained about what guess what they're going to do, they're going to cut this bill cuts snap. we are looking at this budget is more than a policy a budget is a moral document. not just a statement of our values but a reflection of what and whom we value. i am instructed by my faith. my faith teaches at meat when we reach the final judgment we will be asked what we did for the least of our brothers and sisters. when we saw a hungry man we gave him something to eat. this bill fails that moral question. i urge my colleagues to support my motion to reject these cruel cuts to our premier antihunger program help our kids and

seniors. without mr. chairman i yield back frequent judgment yields back the question green motion all those in favor signify. those opposed note. the opinion of the chair the noes have it. quick's requests a reported vote requested pursuant to our agreement will postpone that vote until the end. is there another motion to instruct question questions or chairman of a motion of the desk. >> a motion the clerk will report the motion while staff distributes copies. give us about 30 seconds. motion offered by representative moves the committee on the budget direct its chairman's request on behalf of the committee the rule for consideration of the bill include a point of order prohibiting the use of a current policy baseline to estimate the effects of a future amendment between the houses or conference report on the bill.

>> you have four minutes and then you have one minute to close pickwick sink image of my motion calls or point of order to prevent republicans from using a budget trick to falsely lower estimates for the extreme cost of this republican tax. they want is a budget trick that assumes the tax cuts from trump's first tax scam extend permanently so it seems like what they are doing today with this bill does not cost anything. that is ridiculous that is like the terrible audit renewal scams that flood your inbox. you get signed up for a subscription you never wanted, never agreed to a new cannot afford and then they keep charging for it after words. and in the type maybe it's free because you paid for it before. no one buys that it is a scam. they have a problem over that they went to the ultra- bells altar about thebillionaires, mit ceos tax break they've been yelling for years at the same

time about fiscal responsibility when in truth this republican tax breaks that cause a increase of the deficit. to be fair there's a few people at least intellectually honest and debating they do not want to increase the deficit. the only way to do that give giant tax breaks to the wealthyas is two/programs like d and to lie about what it's going to cost. my emotions as you cannot use a fake method. giant budgetary trick to hide with the real cost of this is all in service the richest americans i yield two minutes. >> thank you. i'm so grateful you are bringing this up. the american people need to understand just how bad this gimmick is. there is still time for our republican colleagues to claim to be all about fiscal responsibility. to be honest i'll be speaking directly to the american people about this.

i went to give you an example of what they're trying to do but want you to imagine, god forbid you lose your job your income is not coming in anymore because you lost your job. to go to your banker and say hey mr. banker, i do not want you to count that loss of revenue or the loss of income when you are balancing my checking account. let's pretend it is still coming in and allow me too continue to spend. that is with the budgetary gimmick is about. they note that by giving massive tax works to billionaires they will lose that revenue. mullane did not want the american people to know about it they have come up with this dystonic's tactic to in order to make tax breaks permanent will to ultimately cost every american because they are taking away your healthcare.

they are taking away your nutrition program. the more this a big bill is out there, the more economists can look at it recently non- partisan budget model released its report saying americans who make less than $51000 a year would see their income decrease beginning next year. but lose about $700 a year. meanwhile the top 0.1% of americans including those making over $4.3 million a year would gain $389,000 a year. you pay so billionaires have more yachts, more luxury vacations. in my state 1 million texans are going to lose their healthcare. hospitals are going to close. clinics are going to close. nursing homes are going to close hard-working americans will pay

more. thank you for this motion. i strongly supported and yelled back. >> a gentle lady yields back. i would like to take the time to propose i will yield some time. this is a really interesting opportunity to show may be some concurrent thinking by republicans and democrats. here is the problem and integrate technical issue that's inside baseball in washington. current law current policy what does it mean? might best way to describe it is current policy assumes a program or policy continues without any budgetary impact. even though the program would expire. here's one of the problems with it. you've got a bias toward tax

policy snap was just discussed. the cost of snap somebody said now is at over 100 billion a year. snap is treated and is accounted for as current policy. so when you are working on a farm bill it is assumed it will continue with no impact to the budget. i think it's wrong whether it's a tax policy or a spending policy that should be treated equally. they should be treated under law if it's going to expire because that is what we anticipated we pass a law. i think we would all do well to treat these things is what we would operate in a more fiscally responsible manner if we did. they're just sort of an issue of paris year in equal treatment and tax policy burnings spending policy. this issue, to be clear is not of concern for our bill we wrote

our reconciliation bill under current law. we had a choice we decided we assume a growth rate of growth rate under the average annual rate of biting and trump we assumed a conservative rate every dollar above that the tax is a cost and by the way that is pretty transformational as it is. a republicans anger or cost to tax policy? recent dollar for dollar went off said that we do not shift the tax cost to another generation. if you don't pay for things you are deferring attacks on her children and grandchildren. that's one thing you always democrats need be proud to be tempted to do that been done. most are on our site and within our conference but not all tax cuts pay for themselves. if we want to make a policy permanent, whether it's spending

or tax pay for it over the 10 years. you pay for it over the 10 years and listen, tax policies like bonus depreciation and i could go through the list of those i think i have a great impact on the economy. the greatest bang for our buck is to make them permanent and give up is a certainty. but we cannot just do that out of thin air and we cannot imagine it pays for itself. i will tell you and i feel strongly about this for this is a message to my colleagues because they're the ones have to make the decision over there at this juncture. let's not use the washington gimmicks and games to hide spending. there's so many ways we do that. we call things emergency spending that are not emergency spending. we called changes in mandatory spending it is a shell game.

we are going to use current policy to get comparable treatment to spending policy for going to use it to give it permanence we should only do so we can only do so in claim we are fiscally responsible fleet offset the impact of the deficit. i do not care what somebody says there is an impact to the budget according to cvo rules or republican or democrat rules. i know what is happening to this deficit where there's an adverse impact to the deficit it needs to be offset by savings or spending cuts that is my commitment will yield the remainder of my time to blakemore from utah but that is my position i'm so glad you brought it up mr. moore question thank you for the 40 seconds german i appreciate it. [laughter] >> i did known to to screw up. ass i want to think of the gentlewoman my calling from washington.

she brings up a debate that has been debated profusely on our side as well that's the measure of a good amendment you have offered appreciate the chance to talk about it briefly. as the chairman mentioned spending and tax policy should be treated the same effect are treated differently as a fundamental problem with how we do things and i would support getting those two things on par. this is entirely a senate consideration. we did not write this or current policy in the house were routed to current law. what we did was find the hard work of finding spending cuts alongside it i will quickly end as we want to wrap up here. depending upon whatever happens in the senate i will be willing to consider current policy baseline in the context of reconciliation if and only if it's paired with enforceable cuts to mandatory spending this is the only opportunity we have to address mandatory spending and one reconciliation per

appropriation stuff we get to do it every single year it's why we keep it to a small growth rate we do not get to do with mandatory spending within that hard work i yield back. >> i think the judge went from utah we will give you the full minute and a half correct think listen if wedo not adopt this at those of you say you do not want the senate to listen if we do not adopt this amendment those of you say you do not want the senate to do budgetary tricks, it's going to come back to within budgetary trick they're already talking about how to do this to extend the tax cuts permanently and get around the reconciliation rule. this is inside baseball but these are the things that happen that really hurt the american people and listen if current policy baseline becomes a new precedent the ranking member and i are going to be very happy to use it when we passed medicare for all universal healthcare for everybody. there's a lot of ways in which this is problematic.

yes we should have a discussion. in this moment your senate colleagues want to use this budgetary trick, a scam, to tell the american people this is not going to cost anything when you know [bleep] well it is. i really hope you vote for this amendment because you are right mr. chairman. it deserves to be and i'm going to yield to the ranking member five anytime. >> thank you. she put it perfectly and i will very quickly and 152nd say this. let's strengthen the houses hand and let's keep this honest with honest numbers. this will be a great bipartisan moment to do the right thing if we unanimously vote for this mti and frankly would only strengthen the hand of those who want to ensure current policy baseline does not become the new normal because mark my words if this becomes the new precedent conservative republicans will

live to regret it. i yield back. >> well said. much of years what you said i would associate myself with we do have commitment from the leadership i want to have say that for the record anything coming back to our floor will comply with the principal pickwick does reinforce your hand mr. chairman. let's make it a bipartisan amendment passed with unanimous support. that would quite a message to your leaders put your awfully convincing today at. [laughter] >> think it mr. chairman i love you to the yes vote. >> the question that motion offered those in favor signify by saying i. those opposed note. the opinion of the chair the noes have it. >> request. >> ship you agree think vote for the amendment. [laughter] okay at roll call is requested. we'll put off until the end of the market per our agreement. okay, pursuant to unanimous consent agreement pursuant to

our unanimous consent agreement the committee will now vote on the postpone rollcall vote to favorably import one big beautiful bill act in that house the clerk will call the roll. >> mr. norman. >> no. >> mr. norman no. mr. mcclintock. >> i. [roll call]. [roll call] [roll call].

[roll call]. [roll call]. [roll call].

[roll call]. mr. german? >> a clerk will call the roll. >> i'm sorry. go ahead.

are there any members who have not voted and wish to change their vote? >> mr. german how my recorded question. >> you are a yes. >> mr. german? mr. smucker is recorded. >> elect to change my vote to know. okay mr. smucker is on no. any members so wish to change your vote? the clerk shall report. >> mr. chair on the boat 16 and

21 noes. >> he noes have at the committee stand in recess subject to the call of the chair. i want to thank everyone for their time and patience. godspeed and safe travels. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]

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