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tv   Harry Truman in WWI and U.S. Military Rivalries  CSPAN  July 3, 2018 10:53pm-11:39pm EDT

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america. the national security act of 1947 reorganized u.s. military, as well as intelligence and national security operations. an early draft of the bill favored by president truman, threatened the existence of the marine corps. up next, former marine corps historian and activist michael miller argues that harry truman's bill were first viewed during his service in world war i. mr. miller also discusses the history of rivalries between the military branches. >> mike miller is the american side of the marine corps history division. he is currently working on a volume definitive history of the marine corps and world war i. from 20 -- 2013 22,016, he let the marine corps centennial project. he is the curator of personal
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papers for the marine corps museum, let's welcome michael miller. >> can you hear me? >> we want to do a little slideshow. maybe i am moving it the wrong way. yeah, if you had a hammer, i could fix it.
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all is well. last but not least, we are the last to fight today. i am going to do the best i can with that. marine harry truman. when i first agreed to come down and talk, i thought are you sure you are sure what you're getting into. they said yes, come down and say your piece. so, i would like to begin with this slide, how many people are familiar with this cartoon, the barney serious? how many people are familiar with crockett johnson? you know, the moon. this is a world war ii era cartoon, and it has everything to do with
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what i'm about to say. i would love to be able to get a reference like this in, because it is kind of cool. part of the barney serious, barney baxter, he had an imaginary friends like we all do, and his name was mr. o'malley who always got him in trouble. part of this cartoon was the young man's marching society. so, it does not make sense right now, but it will. just remember, the chowders of society. i am going to take you on a journey. i'm going to take you to guantanamo bay. i'm going to take you to painting china, to veracruz mexico, other places. basically, i'm going to start in 1998, and finished in 1950. so, i'm going to accomplish all of that with a cartoon. but, the point is, i have made some important decisions about how to talk with truman and the
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marines. truman i could have found one or two ways, one which is the atomic bomb. undoubtedly, that is maybe even the bigger one than this. the indentation battle between the armed forces after world war ii is probably the most lengthy of -- in terms of the army marine and navy and air force. too often historical events are without the context. if you look at the newspaper there, you will see up there a pretty picture of the marines landing in guantanamo bay.
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if you look at the rest of the paper, it is everybody else. he was there with him to talk about it. one of the best counts of military action was the rain. you are going to see a pattern develop class italians and regiments doing things, and famous reporters and such trailing along with them. this is 1898. take a look at this. basically, there is the marines coming off ships. they go to rescue the consulates in beijing. then, more marines come, and to regiments of army go there as
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well. those marines may not be gone yet. they help picture the marines. that's one of the things all of the talks today have been about is all of the impacts world war i had on america and the armed forces. we are starting to see marines and places farther away from our chores, because we are becoming an international nation for the first time. so they belong in china, they belong in cuba, and in the long and a lot of other interesting places. what that does is create a problem with the mission. truman, i'm going to talk about teddy roosevelt first. teddy roosevelt did not know
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like the marine corps. he was determined to get rid of them. he said the navy folks can do this just as well as the marine, and they can do it without being as irritating.
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put up naval weapons and -- but you can do it. locally, we took command of it and he went down there and succeeded in the exercises. -- [inaudible] . the marines, luckily, they know to get approved. a lot of other reporters, the
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reason, the one thing that we can do, -- [inaudible] clear past [inaudible] be careful what you ask for.
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he is part of the army for days. i appreciate the reinforcements and so they remained and you start to see what is going to happen when the marine corps is part [inaudible] unfortunately, they encouraged the marines and the command. one thing that he doesn't want, [inaudible] why? [inaudible].
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he will get all of the credit anyway. go do your thing and i will do my thing. we can't get up and take the presidential declaration like president wilson and -- up to john bolton, they translate [inaudible] personally, they are having none of that. what did you do? he started putting it
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[inaudible] again, back to wilson. wilson says -- if the president of the united states -- what is he going to do about it? and he said [inaudible] -- looking -- wilson says, guess you will. -- that is it.
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here comes the fourth brigade of the division. so, [inaudible] the second division. good luck because -- [inaudible] this is the place that they have every year to celebrate this american victory with the french. and -- that is where it takes
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place. it is several thousand who celebrate us fighting with them. it is a very moving thing. it is the brigade against the old german army. -- but we have -- he is there with the marines. he is always there and -- is
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part of the northern front. they tried to take down the marines. -- so, the shot was in front of him. there's another bullet and it took out and i -- an eye . so,
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-- [inaudible] -- as it goes on for about a month, all of the allies and the marines are like superheroes. why is it that -- the key is the allies needed morale. what just happened -- we need to
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talk about casualties. it was the worst in history up to that point. there was no counterattack and like it or not -- so, [inaudible]. but, this was a victory in and of itself. -- he was not happy.
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about two days later, -- in the second division, if you look at -- the brigade -- guess what? -- -- if you're thinking about
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that, -- he is to be chief of staff. -- they went through the chain of command. -- we saw this purvey -- look at all the fight. -- that is what got you to this point. how many days are most americans in combat?
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>> how many days of combat attacks? not very many. -- the point is that -- that is the worst. that is when -- i am telling the story because it is the impact of the americans. i had a chance to interview a lot of marines. he died two weeks after andrew. -- -- that is an example of, no
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many how -- there is a general attitude that the marines are taking more than their share -- [inaudible]. we evaluate the service and what -- the services and artillery
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commander -- the marines, what is their attitude? we are good. -- why did we push it across -- we lost a lot of
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men -- artillery fire -- we go through the process -- the point is -- fast-forward to 1944 -- i'm skipping a lot of the service rivalry -- summer of 1944 -- they got everything
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from the marines because of -- in time -- it was a huge debacle
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for both sides. to take the army off of the division -- they went up the highest levels -- now we come to the heart of it. how many people are familiar with this? this is the communication that has been put together by the chief of staff.
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and the representatives. -- december 1943, they have a plan -- this is a navy file -- they're looking at the assistant secretary, -- -- so, -- -- we no longer had the
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marine corps. a specific battle -- part of the navy -- reorganized the marshall plan -- -- -- basically
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it was started -- marine corps -- finally somebody -- -- -- --
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general staff, the marine corps believed it earned its rights -- it is not a valid way to determine national security --
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-- -- not by subjugation to the status of civility -- standing ovation -- -- -- -- the most
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critical -- -- it quieted down
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once -- -- [applause]
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>> i see that next month, the 100th anniversary is very special, a national recognition of that event? >> not national. they are recognizing it. -- a lot of the families of the marines that are there are going over. -- [inaudible]
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-- history of the battle. it is an interesting thing. it is a thing that will be remembered. we are going to lose -- we should be remembering [inaudible] -- talk about the casualties. what about the casualties? >> [inaudible]
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-- -- -- -- -- >> thank you for your impassioned defense of the marine corps.
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based on that marine high standard, brought down from teddy roosevelt to truman to many others, what they say about the marine corps -- may be politically incorrect to say, but i think you'll understand. my question is, it is about the decisions. bringing it back to that and how would you say that truman's experience in world war i and his recognition of the casualties likely included in the invasion, how that factored into his decision to use the atomic bomb? >> [inaudible] what he was talking about was, how could that impact -- --
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sometimes they did not respond to the letters and such. [inaudible] the point is that -- the determination to drop the bomb was well thought out. -- his point was he was going to save lives in the and.
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>> -- and -- and -- i don't know who all of the people were but one person [inaudible] twice -- no question about it, you should go to the battle -- -- it's not just thinking of
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that. the use of the atomic bomb -- it was agonizing -- this point of attack -- >> i can't answer the question, i don't know who they were. >> [inaudible]
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-- -- do you know why? >> i don't. i wouldn't put words in his mouth. questions? all right, thank you. [applause] >> at 4 pm eastern on rural america, the president, 1968, a film talking about the tumultuous months through the
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white house photographic unit, covering the activities of president lyndon b. johnson. >> the president was awakened with the news that robert scented -- kennedy had been shot and critically wounded by an assassin. the senator said that president johnson sent letters to implore congress to enact meaningful and effective gun control laws. in june, the president attention was focused on the guns. they returned to washington to report on an impasse at those meetings. the reports were far from optimistic. instead of a slow down as a result of the peace negotiations , the communist launched more assaults and so the time to
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leverage and the diplomatic struggle. at a news conference on june 26, the president announced that the supreme court chief justice earl wallin was retiring. and making his third and fourth appointments to the high court, the president knew that his choices would affect the destiny of the nation long after he himself had left office. >> watch real america this weekend on real american tv on c-span3. this weekend, cspan ci tour takes you to lubbock, texas. as we explore lubbock's literary scene and history. saturday at noon eastern, on booktv. author, sean cunningham with his book, american politics in the post war sun belt. conservative growth in a battleground region. >> billions and billions of dollars of federal resources are being poured into the south
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university. the center is home to the largest collection of vietnam related material outside of the national archives. >> we've got a lot of the different types of equipment that veterans would carry. the things they carried, if you will. the first aide kits, the radios, the rations, the helmet that veterans would wear. that soldiers would wear. the steel pot that would protect them from shrapnel. >> cspan cities tour saturday at noon eastern on cspan 2. and sunday at 2:00 p.m. on american history tv on cspan 3. working with our cable affiliates as we explore america. over the next few hours on american history tv, a series of discussions on world war i. up next, a conversation about


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