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tv   [untitled]  CSPAN  June 17, 2009 5:00pm-5:30pm EDT

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the committee will be in order.
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the committee will be in order. members please take their coverses from the floor. -- conversations from the floor. members please clear the well and take their conversations to the cloakroom. the committee will be in order. the committee will be in order. we will return to consideration. the clerk will read. the clerk: page 75, line 8, agency operations and award management, 29 -- $299,870,000, office of the national science
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board, $4,343,000, office of inspector general, $13 million. this title maybe cited as the science appropriations act of 2010, title 4 related agencies, commission on civil rights, salaries and expenses, $9,400,000. equal employment opportunity commission, salaries and expenses, $367,300,000. international trade commission salaries and expenses, $82,700,000. legal services corporation, payment to the legal services corporation, $440 million. the chair: the gentleman from texas, for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? >> mr. chairman, i have an amendment at the desk made in order by the rule. the clerk: amendment number 6 prohibited in the congress record offered by mr. hensarling of texas. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 552, the gentleman from texas and a member opposed
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will each control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from texas but would first bring the house tord to order. the gentleman deserves to be heard on his amendment. the gentleman from texas is recognized for five minutes. mr. hensarling: thank you, mr. chairman. never in the history of congress have so few voted so fast to spend so much and indebt so many. the democrats are in a program to spend more money than we have seen in the history of this institution and apparently they want very few speed bumps along the road to bankrupting america. thus last night, almost 3/4 of the republican amendments that would reform, improve government programs, make them more efficient, save the american taxpayer money, were
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ruled out of order, but i suppose in a modicum of respect for the democrat process a handful of amendments were made in order, i suppose i'm happy mine was one of them. recently our president has said, quote, without significant change in spending and debt, we are on an unsustainable course. we have to take the painstaking work of every dollar, every spending and ask ourselves, is this program really essential? are taxpayers getting their money's worth? can we accomplish our goals more efficiently and effectively some other way. mr. chairman, the house is not in order. the chair: the committee will be in order. the gentleman deserves to be heard on his amendment. the gentleman from texas. mr. hensarling: thank you, mr. chairman. why is this important? it's important because already we have seen spending out of
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control. we are seeing spending at levels we have never seen before. the national debt will be tripled in 10 years. in just 10 years, the national debt will be tripled. the federal deficit has increase 10d-field. 10-fold in two years. we've seen the taxpayer being forced to shoulder $6,000 per household to fund $700 billion of bailout money, $9810 to fund a $1.13 trillion stimulus plan, $3,533 to fund a $10,100 knee bus plan. you cannot -- you cannot bailout, borrow, or spend your way into prosperity system of in the spirit of what the president said, when we look at a federal government that consists of 10,000 federal programs spread across 6,000 agency, at a time when american families will -- families are
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suffering in this economy, maybe we ought to take a look at a few and see if we can't sunset them so we can provide sunshine and morning to the budgets of the american family. i believe the legal services corporation is one such program. hasn't been re-authorized in almost 30 years. the program has a history of waste, of fraud, abuse. listen to a recent g.a.o. report of last year. quote, expenditures were insufficient in supporting documentation. out of seven of 14 grantees we visitted we identified systemic issues in payments that lacked sufficient supporting documentation that made it impossible to determine whether the expenditures were accurate, allowable, or reportable. one grantee was using funds to provide interest-free pounds -- loans to employees. lobbying fees, taxpayer money
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used for lobbying fees. this isn't me saying this, it's the general accountability office. again, a program of history of waste, fraud, and abuse. now i believe the line item in this budget, mr. chairman, is $440 million. we've got a choice. one, it's a program that's been unauthorized since 1980's. reported instances of waste, fraud, and abuse, and should we actually be taxing taxpayers to force them to subsidize their neighbors to turn around and sue them? i don't think so. i don't think so, mr. chairman. dollars have alternative uses. we can use $440 million to save our children from this explosion of national debt, something that the majority leader once called fiscal child abuse, we can save small businesses at a time when we desperately need job creation, or the money cub put on automatic pilot once again and
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we could subsidize people so they could turn around and sue their neighbors. let's save the american dream. i reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman from texas reserves. for what purpose does the gentleman from west virginia rise? mr. mollohan: i rise in opposition to the amendment. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. ho mollohan: as part of the argument to strike all funds and language for the legal service corporation, the gentleman appeals to our concern about the national debt. well, we all have a concern about the national debt and it's all about priorities. this amendment would attempt to effect a balancing of the national debt or a reduction of it on the backs of those who are the absolutely least able to afford it and making
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extremely small contribution in the process. now more than ever, the legal services corporation really needs a healthy federal appropriation. difficult economic circumstances across the country are driving record numbers of americans under the income thresholds that establish eligibility for legal services corporation. 51 million americans are eligible for legal aid, including, mr. chairman, 18 million children. at the same time, nonfederal funding sources for legal aid are declining as state budget deficits and pressures on private charitable organizations have reduced legal aid contributions by outside entities. now is the very time that legal aid corporation needs federal support. l.s.e. providers already turn
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away one of every two eligible clients who seek assistance. already in a difficult economy, when those seeking legal aid are becoming increasingly eligible, we're turning away 50% of those who need the service. with no federal funding, as the gentleman has proposed in his amendment, legal service corporation grantees will be forced to turn away even more clients who are in desperate need of help. i urge members to consider the true human impact of that proposal and mr. chairman, pose the amendment and i go back to where i started. this is just the wrong place to try to balance the budget on the backs of those who are least able to make a contribution. i oppose the amendment and reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman reserves his time. the gentleman from texas. mr. hensarling: may i inquire how much time i have remaining?
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the chair: the gentleman has 30 seconds remaining. mr. hensarling: i yield myself the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. hensarling: i heard the gentleman say we all have concerns over the national debt, i haven't seen that much concern on the other side of the aisle as they propose a budget to raise the deficit. i would point out that there are pro bono law firms and other options besides taking away money from the dublin famloy of palestine and others, their budget needs to be improved, not the legal services. i urge adoption of the amendment. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired this je -- the gentleman from west virginia. mr. mollohan: i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: all time having expired, the question son the amendment offered by the
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gentleman from texas, mr. hensarling. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes visit. mr. mollohan: i ask for a recorded vet. the chair: pursuant to clause 6 of rule 18, further 3r0 seedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from texas will be postponed. for what purpose does the gentleman -- the clerk will read. the clerk: page 79, line six, administrative provision, legal services corporation, none of the funds shall be expended for any purpose prohibited or limited by section 501, 502, 503, 504, 505 and 506 of public law 105-119, marine ma'amal commission, salaries and expense, $3,300,000. office of the united states trade representative, salaries and expenses, $48 million --
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$48,328,000. of which $250,000 shall remain available until september 30, 20116789 title 5, general provisions, section 501, no part of any appropriation shall be used for public -- publicity or propaganda not authorized by the congress. section 502, no part of any appropriation shall remain available for obligation beyond the current fiscal year. section 503, the expenditure for any consulting service shall be limited to those contracts where such expenditures are a matter of public record. section 504. if any provision of this act, application of such provision to any person shall be held invalid. the remainder of the act and application of the division to persons other than those to which it is held invalid shall not be affected. section 505, none of the funds
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provide under previous appropriations act to the agencies funded by this act that remain available for obligation or expenditure sthal be available from obligation or expenditure through the funding that one, creates a new program, project, or activity. section 506, none of the funds may be used to implement any guidelines of the equal employment opportunity commission covering harassment based on religion. section 507, if it has been finally determined -- >> mr. chairman. the chair: for what purpose does the gentleman from west virginia rise? mr. mollohan: i ask unanimous consent that page 101, line 20 be considered as read, printed in the record and open to amendment at that point. the chair: is there an objection? without objection, so ordered. for what purpose does the gentleman from california rise? mr. lewis: i rise to attempt to
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be of some service to the obama administration and ores in the house who may be concerned about a decision made not too long ago, i ask unanimous consent that we put the executive order 13492 in the record at this point. the chair: does the gentleman seek to offer an amendment? mr. lewis: yes, i do. the chair: will the gentleman specify the number of the amendment he wishes -- mr. lewis: amendment number 118. the chair: the clerk will designate that amendment. the clerk: amendment number 118, printed in the congressional record offered by mr. lewis of california. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 55 , the gentleman from california and a member opposed will each control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from california for five minutes. mr. lewis: i would like to scr this executive order put in the record at this point.
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the chair: the gentleman's request will be covered under general leave. mr. lewis: thank you. as we all know, mr. speaker, the president signed executive order 13492 to close guantanamo bay detention facility in january. more than four months later, there is still no evidence of a plan to carry out the order and no consultation with the congress. yet the administration is racing to move detainees all the while withholding information from the congress and the public. first let me say that last week a suspected plotter of the 1998 embassy bombings in africa arrived in new york for a high-threat trial. second, last week the government of palau announced it would accept some of the uighur detainees. press accounts linked this announcement to some
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significant level of assistance on the part of the american public to palau. the uighurs detainees are affiliated with a listed terrorist group and received weapons training in camps in afghanistan, run by leaders affiliated with al qaeda. to say the least we ought to be concerned about any group that's been trained under those circumstances. finally, last week, the department of justice announced that four of the uighurs detainees have been resettled in bermuda. a visa waiver country. the congress and the american people found out about these actions and efforts after the fact. there is more. three detainees have been transfered to saudi arabia, one to chad, and one to iraq. we are hearing rumors about possible deals with yemen, italy, and albania. italy, and albania. all this has been done without


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