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paying. because of our increasing addiction and our need to stand up and rid ourselves of dependency on foreign oil. so the challenge faces us once again. was here 30 years and we didn't have the courage to make the stand. nor the patriotic fervor of fiber to stand up and do the right thing. stop this addiction. if t. boone pickens can get out across this country and talk about this awful addiction and as thomas friedman said very eloquently, if the american policy of the previous administration is to leave no moola behind and find our funds we pay with american taxpayers, going to fund our enemies' efforts against our own troops in our efforts against terrorism, that is what this is about in the final analysis. it's about this great country of ours and making a stand for what we believe in, standing up
for american dominance and for american dominance and superiority. yes, the chinese and indian nations are out there competing. we want to compete against them because we have better technology. we just have to make the investment here. and not in saudi arabia and libya and venezuela and russia and that's what the policies of previous administrations have led us to and that's where it must end today on this floor. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: i wish his passion was directed at helping the american people. i yield two minutes to the gentleman from california. >> this legislation is not only not the right thing, it's one of the most overreaching, damaging pieces of legislation that's ever come before this house of representatives. this national energy tax is a job killer and will cost american families over $3,000
per year. while doing very litting to affect global temperatures. rural america, low and middle income families and our farmers will suffer the most under this new tax. mr. speaker, we all want to protect our environment, but we should accomplish that through innovation and investment, not by government micromanagement that undercuts americans -- america's ability to compete globalry. i urge all members to protect the american economy and livelihoods of millions of american families and say no to this gigantic national energy tax. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from new york. mr. rangel: i'd like to yield two minutes to the gentleman from massachusetts, chairman neil. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes.
mr. neal: thank you very much. i want to commend chairman waxman and chairman markey who have aterpted to forge a consensus. the bottom line is, this will make america less dependent on foreign oil. despite protestations to the contrary from the other side, there's an element on the other side that rejects to this day the concept of climate change and global warming. it's difficult to find middle ground if there's a side that simply rejects the science of our times. part of our job in leadership and governing is to make some difficult decisions and indeed some very tough choices this climate change bill we have before us today makes those tough choices for our future and our children's future. it's in the interest of america , but just as importantly, it's in the interest of the world. america leads the way, and this is an opportunity for us to reclaim that leadership. this legislation will lead our
consumers, our businesses, and our communities toward smarter, cleaner, and more efficient energy use. it will not be alone. strong trade enforcement mechanisms mean the american business community will in the be disadvantaged by importers who skirt the rules. this legislation is a vote for innovation and environmental stewardship. i almost would be remiss if i didn't mention this as well. for the previous eight years, the administration rejected the idea of global warming. the other side was given fancy talking points to grudgingly acknowledge that perhaps it might be happening, but to spin the argument that it presented a peril to our times. you would be hard-pressed to find scientists anywhere across this globe who have not at least forged a consensus on identifying and defining the problem. as is always the case in public
life, it is difficult once definition is settled in to offer a solution. this legislation today offers a solution. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expire the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: i yield one minute to a true american hero, distinguished member of the ways and means committee the gentleman from texas. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. >> we're in the midst of a long recession, yet the democrats want to impose a massive new energy tax on american families and businesses costing every american family heavily. americans are sick and tired of democrats spending too much, taxing too much and borrowing too much. with a price at the -- with the price at the bump rising 65% this year, the democrats would create a 70 cent behr gallon tax hike with unemployment
close to 10%, the democrats would kill 2.5 million jobs per year my district alone would lose 3,000 jobs per year. democrat congressman john dingell said it best, quote, nobody in this country realizes that cap and trade is a tax and it's a great big one. this is america. let's don't sell it down the river. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from new york. mr. rangel: i'd like to yield one minute to mr. blumenauer, an outstanding advocate of prevention of global warming, it's my honor to yield a minute to him. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. blumenauer: for the last 2 1/2 years, i have had the privilege of working with the speaker's select committee on global warming driving home climate change. now we have an opportunity to rebuild and renew america while are protecting the planet. i want to thank the ways and means committee and the
commerce committee for working with me to harness billions of dollars over the life of the bill to have transportation that reduces carbon foot painting and things that will make a difference for a country that emits more carbon with its transportation than china, india, and europe combined. we have an opportunity to protect the planet, but unless you're prepared to lead, china and india will continue to pa lute -- pollute more and more. s the first step in this leadership and i urge the courage to vote yes on this legislation today. thank you and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back his time. the gentleman -- mr. camp: i yield two minutes to the gentleman from georgia, mr. lender. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. linder: i thank the gentleman for yielding. i want to ask unanimous consent to submit a statement from the
record -- for the record but i'm not going to read that statement. i want to respond to the gentleman from connecticut who said we need honesty in this discussion this egentleman from illinois this morning on the rule, the gentleman from illinois said on the rule there's zero peer-reviewed articles by scientists who disagree with the notion that humans are causing global warming. that will come as a surprise to professor mirner from the university of stockholm who has written 25 articles himself. or professor richard lindzen, the professor of meteorology at m.i.t. who has written numerous article, he's a denying. john christian, roy spencer from huntsville, alabama. fred singer, responsible for leading the charge to get all our satellites in the air from northern virginia and the five
awe authors of the first ipcc report who wrote in their scientific reports that there's no evidence that humans are causing any of this, those five sentences were removed by a bureaucrat who replaced those and said there's evidence that it was human caused. when asked under oath why he replaced them he said because of intense pressure from the top they have united states government. there are 32,000 scientists, 9,000 ph.d.'s and 23,000 masters in science who signed a petition against the silliness we're discussing. they want to join as deniers galileo and einstein. einstein questioned newton's science and got letters from 100 scientists in the world and
he showed the letter to a friend and said, you would think one of them might have adduced a fact. that's all we ask is a fact. the speaker pro tempore: without objection the gentleman's statement will be submitted. mr. rangel: i'd like to yield to the gentleman from virginia for purposes of unanimous consent. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. >> i ask unanimous consent that my full statement on the pending legislation be entered in the record. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the gentleman from new york. mr. rangel: at this time it's a great pleasure to yield one minute to the gentlelady from nevada, ms. berkley. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. ms. berkley: i support this bill. it brings us closer to our goal of achieving american energy
independence. it takes steps to bring new energy jobs. nevada enacted a new renewable portfolio standard, saying that 20% of our energy must come from renewable energy by 2015, it will make us a leader in production of green energy. the alternative proposed by the house republicans continues the same failed policies, including the yucca mountain project, it doubles the amount of nuclear waste that can be shipped to nevada and jams twice as much of this junk down our throats. it would only double the danger ofamilies in nevada and across our nation. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. ms. berkley: i urge my colleagues to support the bill.
the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: i yield one minute to a distinguished member of the ways and means committee and the ranking member on the house budget committee, the gentleman from wisconsin plmbing ryan. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. ryan: i thank the gentleman for yielding. mechanic, this -- mr. speaker, this bill is not about science and costs and benefits, it's about ideology. if you look at the costs and benefit the goal of this bill is to reduce warming by .2 of a degree over 100 years. hit our economy with this massive tax increase on homeowners, on people buying gasoline, heating their homes, hit manufacturing at a time when our competitors will not do this. this bill will result in jobs leaving the midwest, in jobs leaving america and going to other countries. for every one ton of greenhouse gases we reduce what will china do? they'll increase greenhouse gases by three tons that means more dirty air. more greenhouse gases. what will the u.s. have achieved?
they will have pushed production off our shores, jobs will be lost, prices will go up, and other countries will take those jobs and put more greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. this unilateral big government, big brother bill is not good for the planet, it's not good for our economy, and it sure as heck is not good for the midwest. i encourage my colleagues not to vote your ideaology, vote your constituents and districts. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york. mr. rangel: i yield one minute to our outstanding democratic leader mr. ben holland from maryland. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. hollen -- -- mr. van hollen: this act delivers on the change that poth because ma has called for in our energy policy. it will strengthen our national
security by slashing our dependence on foreign oil by as much a two million barrels a day by 2030, which is as much as we export from the persian gulf today. we'll use those moneys of billions of dollars -- these hundreds of billions of dollars instead right here on homegrown clean energy. we'll create millions of jobs, high-skilled, well-paying jobs that will focus on renewable energy and energy efficiency and do all that without adding a single penny to our national debt. mr. speaker, i especially want to thank mr. rangel, mr. waxman, mr. markey, mr. dingell, mr. inds lee, mr. gordon and their staff for the collaborative effort that went into the final provisions establishing a clean energy deployment administration. as a result of this effort, america is beginning to have an inget, well capitalized bank charged with the exclusive admission of deploying clean energy. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired.
the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: thank you, mr. speaker. at this time, i yield one minute to a distinguished member of the ways and means committee, the gentlewoman from florida, ms. brown-waite. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized for one minute. ms. brown-waite: this bill started out as the tax and cap bill, then the clean energy bill because my colleagues on the other side of the bill real arized this wasn't selling at home. it should be called the let's send more jobs to china act. this bill is going to cost people in the state of florida an additional $500 on their utility bills. let's look at the jobs that are going to be lost. in my district alone, we'll lose 2,100 manufacturing job, 3,200 construction jobs and 1,900 retail and wholesale jobs. . america cannot afford this at a time when our economy is so fragile. gasoline prices under this will
rise substantially. electricity prices will rise up to 90%. this is a bad bill. this is a bill that is going to cost americans not only more in their wallets, but certainly jobs going elsewhere. with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back her time. the gentleman from new york. mr. rangel: i recognize the gentleman from chicago, illinois, mr. davis for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. davis: i rise in strong support of h.r. 2454. i want to commend chairman waxman, chairman rangel, mr. barton, chairman peterson, chairman markey, mr. dingell and all of those who have worked so hard to reach compromises which helped to make this legislation possible. especially i want to commend representative bobby rush for his hard work to protect low-income consumers. representative butterfield for making sure that historical black colleges and universities
and predominantly black institutions had the opportunity to be involved in the research and job creation. and i also want to thank representative january schakowsky and donna christensen on their hard work on environmental issues to help reduce health disparities. it's a good bill, mr. speaker. and i urge all of my colleagues to vote in favor of it. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: i yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman, mr. davis. mr. davis: this will rise the price of a gallon of gas, push food prices to new heights and increase the cost of every consumer product. this is a national energy tax. this will punish middle-class farmers and across the nation. america needs a comprehensive energy plan, not a national energy tax. local, state and federal officials have stressed the need
for policies to create jobs. this cap and trade proposal will fail to do that when america needs them. we will lose jobs, manufacturers will move their plants to other countries with cheaper energy and lower taxes, hurting american workers and the environment globally. in the past years i have watched house democrats defeat every meaningful proposal for job creation that has been proposed in this chamber and we have to bring an end to that. this bill is nothing more than the economic colonization of the heartland by the coastal states like new york and california. the one thing i will tell you, it is not about energy but confiscation of wealth. vote no to protect our children's future. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from new york. mr. rangel: i would like to inquire. we have one speaker, and it would be me to conclude. i would like to see whether the other side s more than one speaker. mr. camp: we have five speakers
remaining. mr. rangel: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york reserves. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: i yield one minute to the distinguished member of the ways and means committee, the gentleman from texas, mr. brady. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. brady: i have young children so the environment is important to me, but i question the benefits of this bill and the devastating costs. this bill won't impact the natural cycle of the earth's temperature. it will cost texas families dearly in higher energy costs and losing 200,000 jobs many of them in southeast texas in our engineering, refining and paper industries. with china and india not likely to go along. this will have no environmental benefits at all. the trade measures are so rigid, they undermine our ability to reach an international agreement on carbon emissions, which is the best way to protect american jobs here. it is written so poorly, it will
be difficult to defend the measure. and i should point that the w.t.o. report referenced earlier today doesn't even deal with the border measures that are under consideration in this bill. instead of rushing this 1,200 page bill through congress with no time to read it, a better solution is both parties to get serious about cleaning burning fuel. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. rangel: the gentleman from, ohio, a member of the committee, i would like to yield one minute to him. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. ryan: i thank the chairman and we hear a lot from the other side that if we pass this bill, all these jobs are going to go to china. if we pass this bill, gas is going to go up higher. the jobs already went to china. that's what this bill is all
about. come to youngstown, ohio and see how many jobs have gone to china. this bill is about revitalizing manufacturing and your energy policy has been implemented and gave us $4 a gallon gas here. and we have a $700 billion transfer in wealth from this country to states that want to fly planes into our building. and this bill is about creating programs, like the green bank, that will loan $750 billion to companies that want to create alternative energy resources. this bill has in it, $30 billion for auto suppliers, medium and small auto suppliers to refurbish and retool so they can sell these products into these windmill companies. everyone is talking about losing jobs. come to my district. one company makes the hydraulics. thomas steel makes the specialty steel that goes into the solar
panels. roth brothers makes an electrical system that goes into a wind cube that will sit on top of buildings. in akron, ohio, there will be jobs because this bill passes. we need to nudge this industry and unleash the creative power. could i have an extra 15 seconds? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: i yield one minute to the distinguished member of the ways and means committee, the gentleman from louisiana. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. boustany: this bill is a blueprint for the uniony lateral economic disarmment of the united states. responsible energy production in the gulf of mexico is the backbone of american energy security and creates good, high-paying jobs. their bill increases taxes and will kill american jobs. now i have repeatedly questioned secretary geithner about the job
loss that will be caused. i have asked the administration to prove its claim of saving jobs. and they can't do it. and no one can define what a green job is and how these displaced workers will transition to one. secretary geithner says, quote, this administration believes that oil and gas preferences distort markets by encouraging investment in oil and gas industry that would occur under a neutral system. he says, to the extent the credit encourages overproduction of oil, it is detrimental to long-term energy security. who believes we have enough american-made energy. if we want to move towards renewable energy, as this bill purports to do, we need a transition strategy that involves natural gas. it must be part of that. this administration must stop its attack on american business and american independent oil and gas producers if we're going to make this a reality. the american public deserves a comprehensive energy plan that
creates jobs, spurs innovation and unleashes american genius. that's how we'll solve this problem. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: i yield one minute to the distinguished member of the ways and means committee, the gentleman from nevada. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. heller: thank you, i appreciate the ranking member for yielding. here's the bill again. we have seen this a couple of times. here's the bill, it is 1,201. what does this cost the american taxpayer? $700 million a page for this bill. what does this bill do? every time you flip on your light switch, you're taxed. every time you drive your kids to school, you're taxed. every time you cook your family dinner, you're taxed. air travel, food prices, electricity costs, gas prices, transportation costs, all will skyrocket under this bill. this will cost my district half
a billion dollars in economic activity. it will cost my district 5,500 jobs. it will cost my district 650 million in personal income loss in just the first year. nevada as a whole will lose 14,000 jobs, mining, housing, farming, ranching, tourism industries will be devastated at a time wen the people of nevada are hurting. the majority can't afford the time for hearings or debate, but americans can't afford this bill. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: thank the speaker. i yield one minute to the distinguished member of the ways and means committee, the gentleman from illinois. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from illinois is recognized for one minute. >> i thank the gentleman for yielding. you know what's happening in suburban chicago, there are businesses who are really in a touch-and-go position. they are treading water and barely keeping their heads above
water and they expect us to throw them a lifeline. you know what this bill is? a bowling ball. it says, there you go, hit that with a thud write on nour chest, deal with it, because we are dealing with i'd yol. let's do the transformational thing. but let's not give our markets over to the chinese where they have said they're not in this game. let's not give it to the indians who say they're not in this game. let's not put an additional $3,100 tax. let's an american lifeline to the public and pug the plug. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: i have one speaker remaining. the speaker pro tempore: and the gentleman has one minute remaining. mr. camp: i yield one minute to the the gentleman from california.
the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. nunes: don't be deceived by the comments of the democrat party. this bill is a tax increase. this bill is the largest tax increase in american history. i ask my democratic friends, is this what you've come to? do you want to throw away the economic prosperity for nothing, because that's what this bill does. and for what? to satisfy the twisted desires of radical environmentalists. i would ask my colleagues one important question, how will you force china and india to accept this economic suicide pact? the dirty secret is you can't. i remind my colleagues that the state of california is out of water. they have communities with 40% unemployment. in the meantime, democrats bring up fairy tale legislation to the floor, phantom green jobs legislation. however, we agree on one thing. we should try to reduce our carbon emissions. republicans have a plan, an
all-the-above plan, we drill for oil in america. we take the revenue and we put it into solar, wind, nuclear technologies. that's the real plan, madam speaker. this bill is a scam. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from new york. the gentleman's time has expired. mr. rangel: i would like to yield to mr. fatah for the purpose of unanimous consent. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from pennsylvania is recognized. mr. fattah: i rise for unanimous consent and in support of this bill on behalf of my four children and millions of young americans who we hope to see die on the battlefield trying to get oil, we need independence in our energy. and i thank the chairman for yielding. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york. mr. rangel: i would like to conclude. this is a very historic moment in our nation's life where we have the opportunity to provide leadership to the whole world to prevent the continuation of
global warming. i wish it had been more positive from the other side that they would have had some contribution to make in order to make certain that our nation maintains the leadership that it has. i would like to yield the balance of my time to chairman waxman of the energy and commerce committee, with your kind permission. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for 2 1/2 minutes. mr. waxman: thank you very much, madam speaker. i would like to yield to the the gentleman from florida, mr. grayson, a minute, so we can enter into a colloquy. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from florida is recognized. mr. grayson: i rise to enter into a colloquy with the chairman, mr. waxman. my attention today is draw attention to the need for further research and work concerning the effect of ongoing changes in climate and on the frequency and intensity and effects of hurricanes. as you know, damages from rr