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working in -- innovation doesn't happen in a laboratory. we are trying to find innovative ways to communicate with communities and having cell phone technology to let people know about the need to use this properly is to make sure families are using the bednets every night and using them adequately. i'm sure there are other things that can be done to build up a health systems -- the health systems. ongoing funding is really needed because it is not adequate to buy one traunch of bednets as they get worn and long-lasting insecticide wears out. >> the most important thing to remember is that no plan will be successful if it is in a partnership with donors and
leaders in country. a basic rule is you can't wanted more than they do. in other words, these programs have to be built around in country, innovative leadership that is committed top to bottom to getting this done. when you take a look at those countries where the success has taken place, those are the countries. in tanzania, when the president talked publicly about sleeping under a bed net himself, when he takes to the stage at concerts' with malaria messages, when the kind of leadership is bouchon and clear signals are sent throughout the ministry of health and leadership all over the country where fate leaders are enlisted, that is where it takes place. also in terms of our response to malaria intervention, a very innovative program that has not gotten enough attention is the
involvement of the peace corps. he said this was pioneered in senegal. peace corps volunteers have been affected in using the typical ingenuity in keeping track on the logistics. it is partnerships across borders and across oceans and it is partnerships across cultural sectors inside the country that is making the difference. >> there is a debate over the question of control verses elimination. fundingget into limited now that we understand that the global health fund, spain and italy, some will be unable to
reach their goals because of their financial situation, we have 2-1, reducing our appropriations supposedly. we restrict how much the others can give. how do you see us being able to get through with a combination of the european problem and the possibility for the global fund in particular of a cut in funding? yes? >> there are a number of things that can be done and are being done. the first is to look for efficiencies in country and the global fund has prioritized and vest and a call of value for money but it is looking for the
most efficient way to use the dollars. and to make sure you are getting the impact you want. i think it was announced at the global fund or a couple of weeks ago, focus on the most fragile countries so that lower middle income countries are receiving funding like brazil offered not to receive funding, china will not receive funding allowing them to focus on the poorest countries that don't have a lot of alternative ways of funding treatment. i think those things go part of the way toward dealing with the temporary gaps in any single country. i think we have to look at the bigger picture given the impact not only on malaria but hiv and tb, that this is a priority
program that has been recognized for its effectiveness and impact and to figure out how to sustain it for the longer term. i think that must be a priority. >> looking whether it is nets or spraying or treatment, it is only sustainable if it is paid for in the question is how. i do concur with all the remarks, i think that there are some african countries that are not that able to contribute as much. some of the countries have significant wealth and have significant corruption problems. maybe we have an opportunity, i think of nigeria and angola, to step up more than is currently the situation. that is not to deny that there are not major problems and the aids community should not do
what it can. there may be opportunities to press harder for the nation's most affected to step up more themselves. >> yes? >> there clearly is a great need for financial transparency. one of the things that alma is doing -- the measures are not just about public health. there are rigid there is financial transparency, removal of tariffs on goods and preventive bed nest ts and products such as that. i could not be more supportive about the leadership. we are delighted that ellen johnson sirleaf is coming in as the leader. and is important to squeeze the most value for money out of every dollar, euro, yen that goes into the global fund but
ultimately the united states is the indispensable nation in this. if the united states is not there, the effort will be significantly imperiled. >> a couple of thoughts that i think are important to put on the record -- remember, this challenges like other developing challenges we're taking on. half measures don't work. this is not a situation where you can extend out filling the jar with pebbles over more years. there really is a premium on the mobilization of resources. you either do it or you don't do it. crawling along slowly, you will not get the return on investment. one of the remarkable things about the malaria challenge is we know what to do. zanzibar and other parts of the world are clear evidence of that. we have learned that an
integrated mobilization of resources is what makes the difference. one thing i admire about what pmi is doing, when they take a look at those countries, they don't simply take their resources and divided up by 50. they look and see here is leadership and a definable challenge and we look at that map, we can do this, let's do it. what that means is there are terribly impoverished countries where there are huge problems that we would like to go into and make a difference but we are constrained by resources. there are other countries will look at and perhaps they are not as poor but we look and we say we can do this and we can defeat of this here but as you take a look at the overall challenge, those are the choices you have to make. it is important that we understand you have to mobilize
fully and you cannot simply extend this out and go on the cheap. if you do, sadly, we won't get there. we won't be able to fill the promise. >> with the the new alma project you mentioned that i was impressed looking at this thematic there, how long have they been putting out that report? >> this is the initial scorecard but the plan is to keep it going and use this as a touchstone for responsibility for accountability in the fight. >> i think measures like that, kneepad was supposed to be a move like that but it had some stumbling blocks. once nations are held accountable and they are compared to others, i think the
question of a rating heads of state i think is really putting the spotlight on. i believe we will get to the point where 15, 10 years ago people would not even discuss corruption and these things that have been going on for decades. we also have to work more on the european countries as many of you may know. the corruption has not been illegal in most of those countries. as a matter of fact, i think it was in germany, you could make a tax deductible item if you declared it. it was not considered criminal. it was considered the cross -- cost of doing business. if we can work more on the
correct errors -- on the corrupters, i think those who are offering it and i traveled in average of four decades and it seemed like a practice that was part of a business portfolio for a number of the european countries. i think it is a two-way fight. we have to continue to work in exposing it and having reporting and things that are verifiable, having things that are out in the public so people can be judged on what they do or do not do. one last thing -- how rife a problem is the sale of counterfeit id or poor quality drugs? do we have a fix on that?
do we know how bad it is? >> the short answer is no, we don't have a good handle on the size of the problem. a lot of data that has been collected is not easily comparable. there is no doubt that there is a significant sub standard and falsified a drug problem, products which are either intentionally their to mislead people or more likely in the poorest countries in africa, drugs which have been made legally but are not up to the standards. in addition to that, you have a problem with storage and transportation which lead to degradation of products. it depends how you define it as to that number is to get. most of the studies which have been published, you have -- you
are seeing at least 10% of the products failing and quality- control and in some markets with some drugs, is considerably higher but we do not have a good handle on the exact numbers. >> if i could give you an example from the diagnostic field -- we founded the innovation to ask how good were the diagnostics. of the first 100, only about 1/3 were working the way they should. that information went back to the global fund and other founders. that becomes a basis for credible diagnosis at the field level which was necessary for adequate and appropriate use of drugs. the quality systems -- the same thing can be said for it insecticides. do they really last three or four years? these systems are really
important to the ongoing credibility of the program and need to be part of what is maintained. >> let me thank you very much. we will certainly continue to focus on this issue thursday of this week. we will be co hosting an event andon rollback malaria where there will be a discussion about malaria vaccination and that continues on. i was pleased to the 15th anniversary of aivi for mr. gates and some of his folks are asked a month ago about the question of dealing with the vaccine. i think that is the goal that we really need to continue to move forward on and then we won't have the debate about should we
spend money on trying to prevent or should we put it on research. we get a vaccine and we don't have to worry about it. let me thank you all once again and i yield back to the chairman. >> thank you very much just a few follow-up questions. doctor, can you discuss more of a single dose malaria that was in your report? >> in favor 2a, we are getting ready to do a bigger trial, and the projection is if everything goes smoothly, that product could potentially be available around 2016. >> doctor, you and your
testimony said four countries are having a limited malaria and how are the first countries in 20 years to do this. are there other countries that may be getting close to that distinction? are any of those countries in sub-saharan africa? which countries in africa are doing the best across the whole broad range of combat malaria and who are the laggards? >> thanks very much. this issue of eliminating malaria is where many nations have put that in their current
plans, that is what they want to do, in the discussions that led to the updated rollback malaria goals for 10 countries to eliminate in the coming five years, they did that because there are nine countries that are in the who european region. this is not western europe. this is a set of relatively small countries that have almost no malaria but they have little pockets of it. those are slated within the next five years to hopefully eliminate their malaria. armenia was part of that group and just declared elimination two months ago. yes, there are a number of countries in that state. in terms of other places, you ask specifically about africa. as ambassador green has mentioned, a small part of tanzania, the islands off the
coast, are not very far away and this is the case of making a decision if you go for it and when did you go for it? because there are islands, clearing island steen -- tend to be easier and something you continue to sustain. the other places in sub-saharan africa still have transmission but in focal areas along the borders with the zimbabwean and youziland and mozambiquee have people moving across those borders. they are trying to pay attention whether or not they can eliminate a malaria. this is a pretty important discussion. that's of a cone of africa, once it gets beyond its political strife and allows -- it has an incredibly strong health system.
it has been hampered in recent years particularly from the political strife but that could turn around and give it does, you could have namiobia, botswana, and swaziland close to eliminating. just north of that, there are parts of zambia where you can now count cases in district on your hands and maybe hands and toes. that is no. new. the speed of innovation has got us thinking about what it takes to do elimination. the other area of sub-saharan africa is west africa including san magaw --senegal which has districts over the past year were they have had trouble finding any malaria.
this elimination happens in these countries step by step, district by district of but both senegalk and gambia are talking about how they can work across their borders. outside of africa, in the americas, there has been incredible progress. if you look country by country particularly in central america but also in south america, we're not very far away. we're talking about a few debts left. --deaths left. mexico is a huge place for u.s. visitors to go on holiday and will use to identify that we would recommend from the u.s. that our citizens take prophylaxis when they go to mexico and that was the largest number use of prophylaxis for members of our country.
that malaria in mexico is almost gone. the possibilities out there and the progress are really exciting. they take attention but that group of south american countries, they have formed a coalition to try to do this. and they are close. whether it is just moral support and applause from the sidelines are ways of figuring out how to emphasize that would be hugely helpful. lastly, back to the island issue in the western pacific, there are a number of violence working toward elimination. while we have not called those countries out for the next five years, and this is what is in advance here. if the global community backs off of malaria as a priority, then you can imagine that these places will say they are not
sure where that help is coming from. that might have to do something different. >> thank you very much for that extensive answer. we have talked a lot today about the importance and the implications of insecticide-tree bed nets and preventive treatment for pregnant women. i am reminded that bed nets helped kill mosquitoes which it is important. it reminds me in the fight against the pandemic of a chevy as the entire retrofire arv reduce the viral load which becomes a way of defeating that terrible virus as well.
you are defeating the actual parasite and the carrier parasite. how can whom our decision h whodgeow and by whom -- a makes decisions? is it the health department? >> there is a global process. who is entrusted with assessment of the data and making recommendations for the country's but then there are regional who offices and the responsibility sets with the country to figure out how it is and what they will implement. malaria is not a single disease. it has different patterns of transmission. there are different things that must be emphasized in different places. trying to segment that into a pattern would make it easier to
attack. it is really a partnership between the many partners include who, the rollback malaria partnership, and most important to the countries. that is where the key decisions at the national level and down to the district level must be made. it is complicated but it works. >> this is an example where the u.s. president malaria initiative sets with the country where they work and they look at their plants and look how they can implement those plans. it has been that set of years where there is very little money where people spent a lot of time figuring out what the strategy should be that got us a solid set of national programs that could speak to this strategy.
those evolves over time as we get new information. if we got a new vaccine or a new drug that was a single dose therapy with a c-ure rate, those of the rapidly discussed and rapidly discussed with the regional offices and then country by country experience has shown that we now have enough people with enough knowledge at country level that the uptake of that information is both thoughtful and relatively expeditious. >> the immediate approach in reaction to malaria is procurement, optimizing the current interventions' you have and in country activities and all those are critical and have made a huge impact. the long game will clearly come from research and development. it has to be a long, sustained, expensive process. most of the people would agree that without that the endgame
won. you are saving lives today with the tools we have now, you won't want a lawgame without sustained -- you won't win blanc without game research and development. >> in 2004, the budget was $89 million. it went up to $111 million in 2007. it was 391 in 2009. in 2010, it went up to 594. it is a bill out that needs to be sustained and i think all of you have major cases extra in persuasively and backed up by your knowledge and expertise. my final question -- ambassador
green, getting back to your original point about leadership and the importance of it -- you talked about how coca-cola is partnering with the global fund on technical assistance for the supply chain i travel often to africa and elsewhere and to places that are way out of the way. all of you do even more so. i am always amazed because once i and jet lag, i drink a coca- cola for breakfast and there is always one available at the hotel wherever i may be. their supply chavis' second to none. kenya will leverage how well that is working -- their supply chain is second to none. can you describe how that is working? >> you can get almost anywhere in the world. certainly all over africa. it is not just coca-cola.
another remarkable project that is currently run by barbara bush in which she came up with the idea that we have lots of business expertise in the u.s. and we have lots of young business executives who are dedicated to changing the world so we've got expertise, and challenges, what do we do? the global health fellows which is the name of her organization matches up young business executives with development opportunities overseas. in zanzibar, a young executive from the gap spent one year helping the ministry of health and zanzibar doing supply chain management in eds and was able to put his expertise into use in remarkable ways. coca-cola is doing things and a grand scale and young under
bourse, business executives, doing it on a micro scale and the combination is truly uplifting. at the end of the day, it will be leadership. that will make all the difference. >> i really appreciate the fine work that all of you do. i agree it is the will of the individual country and the community. three or four years ago, i went to rwanda where they were starting a big initiative. they started in the churches and community centers and i had someone discussing it every week that this event was going to start. i happened to be there when we were out in the village where they were starting and everyone had to take their furniture out of the house and put curtains oup. i put on a suit and a new local
guy was supposed to do the job and i thought i came and bombed him out. i put on my suit and we did the spraying around the house. it was just like a community event, everyone was involved and they knew what was going on. they knew when they had to have things out. they had to have the kids out while the spraying was going on so it is important how we work on the very local communities. another issue that shows how it is catching on -- i was in jabooti, at a military in spallation and there was a border dispute with the other country. they denied there was a border dispute but there were 21
prisoners of war from the opposite country and wanted to meet them to see how they were being treated and they were being treated the ok. the thing that was most impressive was that i went to their housing facility and lo and behold, a be a hadd nets and that said something. -- lo and behold, they had bed nets. it was important to have this around prisoners, they knew it was an important issue. it was the same thing in rwanda. i talked to a man in newark, new jersey and he talked to go -- about going to pediatric wards in rwanda or they used to be packed with kids and now they have virtually no one there. that shows it is working in
certain parts. what you are doing is fantastic and i commend the chairman for having this important hearing and we will keep pushing for elimination with a vaccine. thank you very much. >> and a final comments? this could not come in a more timely fashion. thank you for that. >> on behalf of this group, i would like to thank you for holding this session. we are but a fraction of the partners involved in this. as i think about the rotarians in zambia and a principal recipients, exxonmobil talking about malaria at the olympics, n thing butets, bringing -- a n nothing butets, under the partnership model, this has been an incredible decade but
there's so much more that needs to be done over the next decade. when i visited gambia 10 years ago, there were three children to a bed and it has almost disappeared. it is possible but it takes the kind of partnership to give its steadfast attention to make it happen, thank you. >> on that final very wise now, the hearing is adjourned. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] [no audio] [no audio]
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in new york city yesterday following a meeting with donald trump. this is about 15 minutes. some of you look familiar and some of the look different. we were partially coming to new york to make the case that if i become the nominee, we will run a 50-state strategy because the .ap will be ridwide we will literally have an opportunity to have a dialogue in every single state of the country. i was delighted this morning to meet with donald trump. i have been talking about the
importance of work particularly as it relates to people who are in areas where there is public housing where there are relatively few people who go to work. this has been distorted. i was talking about people who come out of neighborhoods where they may not be working. how many of you earn some money doing something by the time you were 10 years old? was a babysitting or cutting grass or doing something? it is fascinating to me when i talk too successful people that might of been their parents or grandparents or their neighborhoods, at a surprisingly early days they began to learn something about the relationship between work and income. that pretty rapidly accelerate their understanding of it so
we're looking for methods to help the poorest children in america have a bridge to learning to work and have a job. i suggested to donald trump that he adopt a program of apprentices and take one of the poorer schools in new york city and create a 10 apprenticeships that would be paid for part-time work and he liked the idea of a lot. he understood what i was getting at. he mentioned his own experiences in his childhood and said he would be glad to do that and i hope within the next few weeks to convince a number of other major businesses and small businesses that may be able to hire one person and create a model that says we want to create a pathway to work. when you have 43% black teenage unemployment, that is a severe challenge of making sure people get the work that and learn the skills and requirements of being successful. i thought that was a positive
step forward and i am pleased to be here and i will take your questions. >> [inaudible] >> i used to run a program called earning by learning. i paid for children $2 per bop for every book they read in the summer and we did it through the 1980's. we had a young lady in georgia who was eight or nine years old and she read 83 books that summer and that $166. if you look at the largest urban housing projects, you don't find areas that are remarkably few people that have work experience. yes? >> [inaudible] >> the way i am approaching so
security which is to create a younger americans right to choose a personal social security savings account which is built on chilean experience. it is dramatically bolder and more oriented toward individual empowerment and individual choice. i would say that the paper we have issued on rebalancing the judicial branch and the fact that i am prepared to call for abolishing the office of judge barry in san antonio because he is such a bigoted, anti religious judge violates the
american tradition and the american system. i think that as a boulder position than romney would take. if you compare my platform and is, i think you will find a number of differences. i am for abolishing the capital gains tax and he capps is cut at $200,000 which would be a lower cap that obama. which it thought was unusual. >> you have said there's not many differences between you and romney. [inaudible] you shouldknow that count running for the senate in 1994 and running for governor and then running for president for six years. i don't know if that makes him a career politician or not. he has been a successful candidate a number of times. as a citizen, i have been proud of the fact that i started
working as a citizen at 15 years of age. i think citizenship is very important i would hope that governor romney would think of himself as a citizen. >> governor cuomo held the line on taxes. his talk about raising the tax on the wealthy. it would be attacks in, i income earners. can you comment on that? >> if i was in the chamber of commerce, i would encourage him to do it. somebody did not say why. >> [inaudible]
>> we have all these articles about how businesses are getting leaner and they are flattening their hierarchies. there are people work from home. all the cutting edge ideas and they knew of a group of consultants who believe you have to be slow, cumbersome, and expect -- and expensive. we wrote a very decentralized campaign for the two top people in our financial operation had not seen each other for 11 months and get together today in new york. it did not affect them all because they know what they look like and they call each other as often as they want and e-mail each other 400 times per day and the system works. i have run offices and
operations i ran in recent years before i decided to run for president, we have extended offices in atlanta, miami, charlotte, st. louis, and washington and one time in california. it did not bother us at all. we kept moving forward. i'm used to running a very extended operations. we certainly fly by the seat of the pants in the sense that when we saw that the american ambassador to belgium had given an anti-semitic speech attacking israel, we shifted and talked about that. i had a chance to ask donald trump to be generous and make the point about work, we shifted and moved to that topic. in other areas, there has been much confusion about what we are doing in his or which was not a mistake. we have never participated in beauty contests.
the missouri primary does not have any delegates attached to it. this was a conscious decision. this was not an oversight. >> nancy pelosi said she would [inaudible] >> i want to thank speaker pelosi for what i would regard as an early christmas gift. if she is suggesting that she would use material when she was on the at this committee, that is a violation of the senate. it tells you how capricious that committee was when it was -- when she was on it and how tainted the outcome was and what she said today should explain a great deal about what happened in the ethics process when nancy pelosi was at the heart of it and is prepared to abuse the
house process. that is a useful education for the american people to seek what a tainted ethics operation nancy pelosi was engaged in and i would hope the house would immediately condemn her. if she uses any material that was gathered while she was on the ethics committee because it would be a violation of the committee. we tend over 1 million pages of material. we had a huge report. 83 charges were repudiated as false. the one mistake we made was a letter written by a lawyer that i did not read carefully the outset that was the only mistake made. every other charge against me was found false. the work we did with the foundations were totally legal. >> [inaudible]
>> i think that being a student is not good preparation for trying to run a country. the president has done three years proving he kills jobs in energy, manufacturing and every part of american life. the only reason the unemployment rate has gone down is because people -- twice as many people dropped out of the employment pool as a number of jobs created. at this rate, the ideal obama economy will have 11 people looking for work and the other 304 million people won't count. just look at the record. more people have gotten on food stamps under barack obama than any other president in american history. >> [inaudible]
>> yes? >> [inaudible] >> i am suggesting that maybe if they have a job -- rc hammond did not get paid but he went in early in the morning as a volunteer and he was used by the school to reprogram computers and he used -- any learned most of his skills by being a student volunteer. take some of those kids who are in danger of dropping out. what they were the assistant clerk of the front office? what they helped in the kitchen? what they did the lighter work? i do not suggest that children 14 or 15 years old do have a dangerous janitorial work. there are a number of things done to clean buildings that are not heavy or dangerous. what you took kids in danger of
dropping out and said if you will stay in school, we will give you a four-hour per day job and allow you to work after school and you will have cash and be able to go do things. this is how people rise in america. they learn to work. i'm very proud of that. i have a similar parallel for adults because i believe the only way they should extend unemployment compensation is to attach a training requirements and say you cannot find a job and you need unemployment, you have to sign up with a business and learn a trade why you're being paid because we should i give people money for doing nothing. thank you all very much. >> in a new iowa poll from saturday, mr. gingrich won support from 25% of likely republican caucus goers followed by congressman ron paul with
18% and former massachusetts governor mitt romney at 16%. >> hear what the candidates are saying from the campaign trail with the newly designed cspan website. >> in my view, this is a time for america to get serious about our challenges. the big one that i started with is our budget and spending. >> if investment is not landing in your marketplace, it is landing somewhere else. it will flee wherever it perceives risk in the marketplace and if it is not landing in your marketplace, it is going somewhere else. >> i think it is an interesting concept of a consumption-based tax as opposed to an income tax. it makes sense but we need to do something now. >> read the latest comments from
candidates and political reporters and link to our media partners in the early primary and caucus states at c- span.org/campaign 2012. >> president obama encouraged congressional support yesterday for extending unemployment insurance. the latest payroll tax proposal by senate democrats scales back the original amount to $180 billion paid for by a temporary tax on those making $1 million per year. this is about 10 minutes. >> good afternoon, everybody. my number one priority right now is doing everything i can every single day to create jobs faster and provide more security for middle-class families and those trying to get into the middle class. at this moment, this means making sure that nearly 160
million hard-working americans don't see an increase in their taxes on january 1. one year ago at this time, both parties came together to cut payroll taxes for the typical american family by $1,000. as soon as this year ends, so is that tax cuts. if congress fails to renew this tax cut before then, that same family will see a tax hike of about $1,000 per year. there are many folks either in the middle class or those trying to get in can't afford to give up $1,000. that's why congress must act. the unemployment rate went down last month, our recovery is still fragile. the situation in europe has added to that uncertainty. that is why the majority of economists believe it is important to extend the payroll tax cut. those same economists would lower their growth estimates for
our economy if it does not happen. not only is extending the payroll tax cut important for the economy as a whole, it is obviously important for individual families. it is important insurance for them against the unexpected and will help families pay their bills and will spur spending and hiring and it is the right thing to do. that is why i proposed not only extending the tax cut but expanding it to give the typical working family tax cut -- a tax cut of $1,500 next year. it was paid for by asking a little more from millionaires and billionaires. it was a few hundred thousand people paying a little bit more. it would extend the existing payroll tax cut but also extended. many republicans have sworn an oath never to raise taxes as long as they live.
how can it be that the only time there is a catch is when it comes to raising taxes on middle-class families? how can you fight tooth and nail to protect high end tax breaks for the wealthiest americans a barely lift a finger to prevent taxes going up for 160 million americans who really need the help? it does not make sense. the good news is, i think the american people's voices are strong -- starting to get through in this town. last week, speaker john boehner said the tax that helps the economy because it allows every working american to keep more of their money. over the weekend, senate republican leaders said we should not raise taxes on working people going into next year. i could not agree more. i hope that the rest of their republican colleagues, rather than join democrats to pass these tax cuts and put money back into the pockets of working americans. some republicans who have pushed back against the idea of
extending the payroll tax cut have said that you have to pay for these tax cuts. i point out that they have not always felt that way. although last decade, they did not feel the need to pay for massive tax cuts for the wealthy americans which is a reason why we have such large deficits. when the republicans took over the house of the beginning of this year, they frequently change the rules to say that tax cuts don't have to be paid for. forgive me when i hear folks insisting on tax cuts being paid for. having said that, we all recognize that we have to make progress on the deficit and i am willing to work with republicans to extend the payroll tax cut in a responsible way. what i am not willing to do is to pay for the extension in a way that hurts the economy. americans are well aware that i signed into law nearly $1 trillion in spending cuts with
another $1 trillion in cuts in the pipeline. it would be irresponsible to now make additional deep cuts in areas like education or in ovation or our basic safety nets that are critical to the economy to pay for an extension of the payroll tax cuts. we will not do that nor will we under the budget agreement that i signed a few short months ago. finally, for millions of americans still looking for work, it would be a terrible mistake for congress to go home for the holidays without extending unemployment churn. if that happens, in january, they will leave 1.3 million americans out in the cold. for a lot of families, this insurance is the last line of defense between hardship and poverty. taking the money out of the economy would do extraordinary harm to the economy. if you believe government should
not take money out of people's pockets, i hope member of congress realize it is worse when you take it out of the pockets of people who are unemployed and out there pounding the pavement looking for work. we are going through what is still an extraordinary time in this country and in this economy and i get letters every single day and i talk to people who say that this unemployment insurance is what allowed me to keep my house before was able to find another job. this is what allowed me to still put gas in the tank to take my kids to school. we cannot play games with unemployment insurance when we still have an unemployment rate that is way too high. i put forward a whole range of ideas for reform of the unemployment insurance system and i will work with republicans but we need to make sure that gets extended.
this is not just something i want. this is not just a political fight. independent economists, some of home have in the past work for republicans, agree that if we don't extend the payroll tax cut and we don't extend unemployment insurance, it will hurt our economy. the economy will not grow as fast and we will not seek hiring improve as quickly. it will take money out of the pockets of americans just at a time when they needed and it will harm businesses that depend on the spending just at the time when the economy is trying to get some traction in this recovery. it will hurt all of us. it will be a self-inflicted wound. my message to congress is this -- keep your word to the american people and don't raise taxes on them right now. now is not the time to slam on the brakes. now is the time to step on the gas. now was the time to keep growing the economy and keep creating jobs and keep giving working
americans the boost they need. now's the time to make a real difference in the lives of the people who sent us here. let's get to work. thank you very much. >> on our companion network c- span 3 -- at 10:00 a.m. eastern, the senate judiciary subcommittee on the court will look at allowing television cameras in the supreme court. at 2:30 p.m. eastern, it is a hearing on the proposed merger between pharmacy benefit managers express' scrip's and medco. in a few moments, today's headlines and your calls loss "washington journal on." and the house of representatives is back in session for general speeches at 10:00 eastern with legislative business at noon. legislative business at noon. in about 45 minutes, we will talk about the debate over extending the pro