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goodwill. i am wondering how you see that balance play out. about america moving away from those who served because the war is over. i do see this sea of goodwill filled with great americans who want organizations in local governments throughout the country that want to figure out how to do this. we have got tens of thousands of these organizations chasing the same dollar. we need to consolidate efforts. that is hard. passionate people about their organization have to figure out how to either incorporate other leaders from other organizations that are focused in the same way so that we can reduce the overall overhead with respect to and have an impact of the dollars that are out there.
once you get into philanthropy a little bit, there is a lot of it. there are a lot of causes. how does the veterans' piece of this fit in? the colonel that used to work for me started the dixon center here in town. he is focused on these kinds of issues. i don't think there is anybody in the country that knows more about this space then he does per se. it is that consolidation that we see. i will give you a specific example. we convened a group that focused on scholarships for kids, for military kids. 30 or 40e organizations there. there were some organizations that couldn't figure out how to get a scholarship. there were some organizations that had nothing but fellowships and didn't have the money to get it. of these people. how do we get them to work together? that was the idea.
you can do that in education, health care, employment, all of those kind of things. -- i think leaders in the community and these charitable organizations need to figure out how to help us get to some consolidated level. thank you -- >> this is jane. -- is a gold star [applause] thanksain, i want to say for all the sacrifice that you and your husband made for our country. i promised you before that we will never ever forget. >> thank you. >> now ask me an easy question. [laughter] >> that means the world to me
and thank you for your support of the goldstar community. admiral mullen came to my husband's burial at arlington. one of my favorite things that you read about is the civilian military divide. as a war widow, it has been something that has been very close to me, trying to relate to -- civilian can't relate to any of us and there is a huge divide. i want to ask you as the war think --a end, how you it has got me a little emotional here, i apologize -- how do you think we can close that divide? >> mama the things that i wasned as a senior officer about our culture. the reason what jane is doing and others who are working to support goldstar families is because i found that our culture
is a culture of, if you are here, we love you. onyou are not, please carry whatever it is. the best and worst example of that were goldstar families. my wife in particular the would families --ldstar and i would as well -- found that the support for them was stunningly thin. wasmain line of connection the military member who had passed away. we have tried to keep focus on that and jane and others have now put themselves in positions to remind us to make sure that we don't ever forget those who paid that baltimore -- ultimate sacrifice. a -- i am a vietnam vet so i grew up in a draft. i remember all of that and how
bad it was to be disconnected from the country in terms of being politically blamed for the , the quality of the force was almost not comparable. compared to the quality of the force we have today, it is night and day. all volunteer. people -- we are out of neighborhoods. we are not teaching in schools. we are not coaching teams. people in the northeast don't know us anymore. there is a good reason that we did that but that is overhead i think you have to pay as opposed to becoming more isolated. wars, i get to these worry that america has paid us very well, the compensation is very good, please go off and fight our dirty little wars and
let us get on with our lives. one of the lessons i have learned is, we need to figure out a way to get americans to buy into those, into them. i don't know. i don't have an answer for that. i am not a fan of going back to a draft but i am a fan of creating national service for every 18-24-year-old for two years because i just haven't that hasn'tear-old benefited from that kind of service and commitment. then they can get on with their lives. i like the effects of the draft meaning it affects everybody. i would like to keep the quality up and that is a challenge. is a real inflection point in terms of how we do that in the future. i think the outcome of the military becoming more and more isolated from the american people is a disaster for america. >> on that note, since we are out of time, i think it is
appropriate to let jane have the last question. one reason we have been pleased to partner is precisely out of this concern. they are not active-duty anymore. trying -- i being , i think you're doing a great job of trying to tie together what has become a worrisome divide between those who serve and have served and the rest of us who observe from afar. i want to thank you so much for taking the time to be here. [applause] thank you all for coming. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute]
>> in a few moments, today's swearing-in of new jersey governor chris christie. in a little less than hour, a discussion of terrorist threats at the winter olympics in russia. after that, we will air the comments of retired admiral mike mullen. >> on the next "washington journal," we will focus on the u.s. auto industry with live coverage from the detroit auto show. i guess will be david shepardson and david strickland. membersalso speak with of general motors, ford, and toyota.
join the conversation on facebook and twitter. >> i would like to add a personal word with regard to an issue that has been of great concern to all americans over the past year. to the investigations of the so-called watergate affair. as you know, i have provided to the special prosecutor voluntarily a great deal of material. i believe that i have provided all the material that he needs to conclude his investigations and to proceed to prosecute the guilty and clear the innocent. i believe the time has come to bring that investigation and the other investigations of this matter to an end. one year of watergate is enough. five decades of notable state of the union addresses from lbj
to george w. bush. part of american history tv this weekend on c-span 3. that is all leading up to president barack obama's 2014 state of the union address on c- span, c-span radio, and c- span.org. >> new jersey governor chris christie was reelected to a second term last november. he was sworn in today. this is a little less than an hour. >> good morning. i am the cochairman of the inauguration, along with my partner, todd kristi. i want to thank you for braving the elements to join us this morning. as i was driving down here, my job this morning is to introduce our master of ceremonies, as you can see by your program.
i was driving down here, the master of ceremonies and i were, telephoning and texting back and forth among making sure one of us will be here. i want the record to show i beat him. when chris christie and i were practicing law for many moons ago in cranford, new jersey, there was a young lawyer at the end of the hall who was always there before we got there and always there when we left. it is a great lesson to you young warriors out there. the lawyer at the end of the hall went on to be an assistant u.s. attorney, general counsel to the governor to my attorney general of the state of new jersey, and is now the former united states senator for the state of new jersey. it is my honor to introduce our master of ceremonies today, the honorable jeff. [applause]
>> good morning, everybody, and thank you, bill, but you did not beat me by much. ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being here today. it is my honor to look at new to the inauguration of governor chris christie and the lieutenant governor, kim guidano. it is my pleasure to introduce to the state, lieutenant governor and the family. [applause] [applause]
>> to introduce the pledge of allegiance, it is my pleasure to welcome the president of the new jersey state senate, senate president, steve swinney. [applause] >> governor, a heartfelt congratulations and i get the honor of calling up the governor's youngest daughter bridget to lead us in the pledge of allegiance. bridget? [applause] >> [all together] i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
to deliver the invocation. [applause] >> as you can tell, patrick, by that applause that your dad got, that he is loved. let us now bow our heads and pray for god's blessing. lord, we gather today to ask your blessings on our governor, lieutenant governor, senators, and members of the assembly, jurists, and all citizens of this great state of new jersey. we ask your blessings on all who serve the common good for the people of this state. we ask you, lord, with the author of the first book of
kings, to give your servants an understanding mind to govern your people, able to discern between good and evil, and to seek justice and peace and security. we ask your blessings on all who govern and protect us, and all who serve us in any way in public office. we ask your blessings on all gathered here. on our families, on the christie family and on all families in this state. and lord, we ask your blessings on those most vulnerable, and on all the children of this world. may the lord bless you and keep you. may the lord make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you. may the lord lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace.
amen. >> please, be seated. it is now my honor to introduce stuart radnor, the chief justice of the supreme court of the state of new jersey, who will administer the oath of office to governor christie. [applause] >> i, chris christie, elected governor of the state of new jersey do solemnly promise and swear that i will support the constitution of the united
states and the constitution of the state of new jersey, and that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and to the governments established in the united states and in the state under the authority of the people and i will diligently, faithfully, impartially, justly, and to the best of my knowledge and ability execute the said office in conformity with the powers delegated to me, and that i will to the utmost of my skill and ability promote the peace and prosperity, and maintain the lawful rights of the said state, so help me god. [chris christie repeats] congratulations. [applause]
constitution of the united states and the constitution of the state of new jersey and that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and to the governments established in the united states and in the state under the authority of the people and that i will faithfully, impartially, and justly perform all the duties of the office of lieutenant governor according to the best of my ability, so help me god. [kim guidano repeats] [applause]
today, once again, the people of new jersey have given me the opportunity to serve. [applause] and i thank each and every citizen for that honor. and once again, i have taken an oath where i have sworn to promote the peace and prosperity of our great citizens, and a long oath it is, a long one. it is an oath i have lived by for the last four years, and it is the oath i will live by for every day i am privileged to call myself your governor. [applause] the oath, though, is just a symbol of the bond that we have created with each other over the last four years. we have endured the worst
economic recession of our lifetimes, and we have begun to triumph over it. we have confronted entrenched interests and their stream of money that have previously stood in the way of fiscal sanity for our state and educational excellence for our children. together, we have pushed those interests back and put our children's interests first. we have survived the worst natural disaster in our state's history and we have worked together to restore, renew and rebuild the state that we love. [applause] each of these challenges have been met by a new unified force in public life, by new jersey setting the tone for the entire nation, a tough new jersey, a resilient new jersey, a proud new jersey.
[applause] a new jersey that has put aside political partisanship on the important issues to our people to take advantage of the opportunities each of these challenges has presented us with every day, a new jersey that has brought pride to our people and leadership to our nation. finally, this past november, new jersey has had the chance to decide if the bonds we have formed were strong enough to endure the heat of today's political campaigns. would our elections confirm that the change we said had arrived on this stage four years ago truly had been beneficial for all of our citizens? because you see, elections are more about tv ads, debates and rallies. each vote cast is an act of
faith and trust, faith in the strength of the bonds we have built, trust in the hope that tomorrow will bring a better future for our people, better education for our children and a better day for all citizens. [applause] now the people have definitively set the course for the next four years. they have affirmed the decision to take on the big problems. they have validated the idea that our answers to our problems must be bold. they have rewarded the principle that we must tell the truth about the depths of our challenges and the difficulty of
real solutions. and it wasn't just some of our people who affirmed this course. it was not a vocal plurality like four years ago. this time, it was the largest and loudest voice of affirmation that the people of our state had given to any direction in three decades. [applause] suburbanites and city dwellers, african-americans and latinos, women and men, doctors and teachers, factory workers and tradesmen, republicans and democrats, and independents, together, they have demanded that we stay the course. the course they have helped set. to stand up for what is right. [applause] to fight the fights worth fighting, and most of all, to
work together to make government work for each and every one of those voices of affirmation, for each and every one of our people. you see, the people of this state know that the only way forward is if we are all willing to take on what is politically unpopular, if we are willing to share in the sacrifice, if we are all willing to be in this together. we have no moral option, in my view, but to heed the voice of the voters, and that is exactly what i intend to do. [applause] today, i thank all of those who have once again placed their faith and trust in me and i make this promise. i will not let up. i will insist we work together, and i will make this government
truly work for those who pay for it. you see, i do not believe that new jersey wants a bigger, more expensive government that penalizes success and gives opportunity to a few. they want an equal chance at the starting line, not a government guaranteed result. why? because through hard work and being rewarded for that hard work they know that they are part of their own success. we should make sure that government creates policies that reward the effort and talent of everyday people, not in the almighty power of government to fix every problem, real or imagined.
so, let's be different than our neighbors. let's put more money in the pockets of our middle-class by not taking it out of their pockets in the first place. [applause] one of the lessons i have learned most acutely over the last four years is that new jersey can really be one state. this election has taught us that the way we divide each other, by race, class, ethnicity, wealth and political party is neither permanent nor necessary. you see, our dreams are the same, a good job, a great education for our children, safe streets in our neighborhood and core values which give lives
real meaning. those dreams are not unique to any one group in our state, and while government has a role in ensuring the opportunity to accomplish these dreams, we have now learned that we have an even bigger role to play as individual citizens. we have to be willing to play outside the red and blue boxes that the media pundits put us in. we have to be willing to reach out to others who look or speak differently to us. we have to be willing to reach out a helping hand to a neighbor or a friend suffering from drug addiction or depression, or the dignity stripping loss of a job. new jersey came together as one community when it mattered most,
and now we must stay together. people of every background and beliefs, the government, and our people, to help our fellow citizens reach their dreams. there are times when we need to get along to just get things done because as joe carter said just this morning at the new hope baptist church, all of us may be one yes away from our own miracle. that is true for our state and our nation. one yes away from our own miracle. the fact is that every person, no matter what challenge they are facing in their lives, must believe that they have inside of them all of the god-given ability to be happy, and they will not believe that if all they hear from us is that life is unfair and that only
government can fix that unfairness. they must first believe that self worth comes from inside each of god's beings. [applause] government cannot solve every one of these problems. government can only be one part of the solution. the unity our people have felt in the last year plus as we have confronted tragedy and challenge must be a unity that we build on to give every person a chance to reach their dreams. those dreams begin for everyone with a growing economy. this growth will not happen by following the path our neighbors seemed to prefer to pursue. for those that are for government redistribution and higher taxes, i have this to say.
come to new jersey. you will be welcome here. in addition to a growing economy, here is how our government, our government, our government will lead the effort to create opportunity in new jersey. we will make it a priority to have every child in new jersey get a good education, no matter what adult you have to offend, where you came from, what sacred cow we must slay, how we have to change the conventional thinking, we will no longer stand for the achievement gap that exists between our best and least educated children. [applause]
this government, our government, we will end the failed war on drugs that believes incarceration is the cure for every drug abuse. we will make treatment available to nonviolent offenders when we can and we will partner with our citizens to emphasize this truth. every life has value and no life is disposable. [applause] this government, our government, we will fight to continue to change so that we value our differences and we honor the
strength of our diversity, because we cannot fall victim to the attitude of washington, d.c., the attitude that says i am always right and you're always wrong, the attitude that puts everyone into a box that they are not permitted to leave, the attitude that puts political victories ahead of policy agreements, the belief that compromise is a dirty word. as we saw in december regarding the dream act, we can put the future of our state ahead of the partisans who would rather demonize than compromise. as your governor, i will always be willing to listen as long as that listening ends with us being willing to compromise for the people who sent us to do our job.
because you see, in the end, i have had no greater honor in my life than having twice been elected to be the governor of the state where i was born and raised. with that honor come solemn obligations to make hard decisions, to raise uncomfortable topics, to require responsibility and accountability, to be willing to stand hard when principals are being violated, and to be willing to compromise to find common ground with all of our people. to work every day, night and day, to make new jersey all it can be. in short, to be the governor. [applause]
to my fellow new jersians, we started this journey together at a dark time when hope was at a premium and had been squandered by a government unwilling to tell you the truth. today, we enter the final leg of our journey together with more hope than we have had in years and with the trust that comes from partners who have shared with each other the hard truths that come from decisive action. we are at the dawn of the new age of pride and growth in our state and its people. let us move forward with the strength that comes from the belief that we have in each other. i believe in you, new jersey, and i always, always will. [applause]
it is only fitting that in this administration, with more hurricanes, snowstorms, flooding and disaster of the natural sort than of any administration i can remember in my lifetime, that we begin the second term in the same way. [laughter] [applause] so, to the folks who could not quite make it down the new jersey turnpike to be with us this morning, i understand. to the hardy souls who are here, you have my thanks, and i end by saying what comes directly from
ladies and gentlemen, please welcome sister pat. [applause] >> thank you, sara. heavenly father, today we celebrate and commemorate another chapter in the history of new jersey. we acknowledge your sovereignty over our lives and our nation, and our state. help us to remember that freedom does not perpetuate itself, that we as a society have to work at it, nurture it, protect it, and pray for it. help us to renew our loyalty to this great state.
empower us to rededicate ourselves in faith to you and to one another. from the beginning of time, you have preserved us as a people and helped us emerge as a nation and continue to lead us in numerous and wondrous ways. make us reverent in the use of freedom, just in the exercise of power, and generous and the protection of weakness. inspire and bless all who have been elected and invited to lead. we especially pray for our governor chris christie. we are grateful for the steadfast service rendered to the people of new jersey. continue to give him the wisdom necessary for the work at hand, fortitude and courage for the challenges that lie ahead. protect and bless all who serve
with him. in jeremiah, we read, "for i know the plans i have for you, declares the lord, plans to prosper you and not harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." the prophet isaiah reminds us that those who hope in the lord will renew their strength. they will soar on wings like eagles. they will run and not grow weary. they will walk and not be faint. loving father, as we conclude today's ceremony and move forward with hope, we pray, may the strength of god sustain us, the power of god preserve us, the hands of god protect us, the ways of god direct us, and may the love of god be with us this day and forever.
amen. [applause] >> good afternoon, everyone. i am andrew christie. on behalf of my family, i would like to thank all of you for coming this afternoon. once again, i would like to congratulate the lieutenant governor and my father on their respective reelections. [applause] once again, thank you all for coming and this inauguration ceremony is now adjourned. [applause] ♪
worth of gifts from johnny williams, the ceo of a dietary supplement company. had four years in office. virginia law limits governors to one term. moments, a discussion of terrorist threats to the winter olympics in russia. in a little more than an hour, the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, retired admiral mike mullen, talks about how the debt affects national security. after that, the swearing-in of new good -- of new jersey governor chris christie. on c-span tomorrow includes the 44 -- the 41st annual march for life from the national mall in washington. at 2:30 p.m., health secretary kathleen sibelius is expected to provide an update on the affordable care act.
>> did i feel prepared? yes. , so it did noted make that much difference. i did notice the difference between being the vice president's wife and the president's wife was huge because the vice residence wife could play anything. nobody cares. the minute you say one thing as the president's wife, you have made the news. that was what i had to learn. >> watch our program on first lady barbara bush at our website , c-span.org. or see it saturday on c-span at 7:00 p.m. eastern. monday, our series continues with first lady hillary clinton. >> now, a forum on terrorist threats to the winter olympics
in russia and the political impact of the games. the center for strategic international studies hosts the event. >> thank you for being here. we have some weather coming into washington so it is great to have an excellent turnout. this is obviously a very timely briefing and we will get right to it. i am joined by my dr. andrew kutchins and jeff minkoff. juan was the deputy security advisor in the bush administration, a key arson on counterterrorism and many other issues. -- a key person on counterterrorism and many other issues. we will open it up to your questions. thank you for coming. >> good morning, everybody.
as andrew said, you braved the rumor of a snowflake in washington, d.c. later today coming in this morning. it is always wonderful during a press briefing to just check the news. so i checked "the moscow times was good and the title of the story was potential suicide armor in sochi. you globally have already heard this story. there is video that was produced by [indiscernible] which is a part of the caucasus emirates headed by the maybe- alive or maybe-dead [indiscernible] supposedly, this is video of the two suicide bombers who took out who conducted the acts in volgograd.
maybe. i don't know. maybe. i don't know. guys,ou look at these they look a little bit like "saturdaygarth in a night live" skit. i wonder if some of this is a hoax conducted by folks. imagine yourself in a dorm room in a university. i don't want to take this lightly at all. but when i look at this, this is the first far ahead. and then the story of the , ruzannaomber ibragimova, who has been spotted , how serious this is is hard to say.
but when you read the story, you kind of scratch her head. it says it is unclear whether anygimova was carrying explosives with her. and it is unclear how any terrorists could get into russia's olympic capital in height and security. -- in heightened security. the letter describes ibragimova as somebody who "lips slightly. .er elbow does not bend and she has a scratch on her left cheek.
oh is this really true or could this be a hoax? if it is not a hoax, how could someone who obviously looks like couldremist shaheed kia get through security. it doesn't give one great confidence. anyway, we can talk more about that later. -- these unusual things are unusual. many times has csus held -- has csis held a press conference before an olympic event? never. this is a rather you unusual me start by saying that these games are very personal for vladimir putin. gamesyone to role of the
-- has any winter olympic games been attached to a national leader as these games are to mr. newton -- to mr. putin? in 2010, was anybody talking about mr. harper much in vancouver? games, if they were politicized for anybody, they were a base for mitt romney. who was running the games at the time. but this is really unusual. you probably have to go back to the 1936 summer games in berlin, hitler's games, the not see gains, to have games that are attached -- that are so politicized anyway. mean in any respect to compare vladimir putin to adolf current rush with not see germany.
seeurrent russia with not with nazi russia germany. for putin, he has said this said this on numerous occasions. to host the olympic games, you have to be a country, to put it in layman's terms, that has its act together. you have to be a major country. this is not a small undertaking to put on an olympic games.
so this represents. this is not rush of the 1990s that was the wild, wild east. where we had the images of the russian mafia running the country to the extent that it could be run. -- or as i refer to it, disorganized crime. this is where he has restored a sense of order and stability to the country and the country finds itself much more wealthy than it was. the timing, now, in 2007, this is after russia became financially solvent. in 2009, russia pays off its debt to the imf. in 2006, it pays off its debt to the paris club. so russia is financially sovereign, which means russia is politically solvent. we are actually a real independent country again.
so the timing that he can go down to guatemala city and do this is significant. remember, it was 2006 that russia held for the first time the g-eight meeting in saint petersburg. , probably if russia's hosting the sochi games, that should have been a big and that vladimir putin would be running russia in 2014. didn't quite put that together at the time but i should have. so thinking into the future, well, russia has also won the 2018 world cup, fee for world world cup. that will be after the 2014 national election. so my guess is that vladimir putin will also be presiding over the world cup in 2018, assuming that everything goes well in 2014.
he spent a lot of time down and so cheap. of the discussion club, a group that jeff and i have met annually with mr. putin and other leaders, we have gone down to sochi two meet. it is a nice spread down there, shall we say. it is kind of like a rush in california. you can swim in the sea in the morning and then you can go to are onlyains, and they 45 mins away -- you don't have to drive three hours or four hours or five hours or eight hours if you go to tahoe -- and you can see. -- and you can ski. the really significant thing itst sochi geography is
progeny to the northern caucasus. the us is also a very personal issue for vladimir putin. lyrical stardom in russia, to the national caliber, took place when he was initially premised her in the the second9, when chechen war started. the first chechen war was a representation of the humiliation of russia, where russia lost the civil war on their own territory. in the second war, particularly in the beginning, russian military forces, the security forces performed better than they had and the perceived success of those early strikes on the terrorists in opposition 'sechen war was to boost putin popularity. it is where putin also bonded with the russian people, which
is his much away being. i'm going tosly wipe them out in the outhouse is. you know what? well, guess what, russia, get what russiaar of was saying. russian is a very rich language. it is a rich language of four letter words. what he said is basically i'm going to f them up in the blank houses. i mean, really, that is what he was saying. yeah, i am going to miss these dudes up. and he saw this as part of his mission, that he was going to deal with the separatists and in theerrorist groups
caucuses. literally a mortal threat to the russian nation. is that he brought stability and hopefully on olympic games for the first time in history can be held in such close proximity to a conflict zone. low levellatively insurgency going on in much of the northern caucasus today during again, these are totally unique aspects about these olympic teams. that is why we are having this press conference here. if you can successfully hold these games next to this area, which putin saw as his mission as russia's leader to bring he hasty to, then, yes, been successful. so he has a lot riding on it. about theck word controversy over the lgbt
legislation, which has attracted so much controversy. the long and proper diet -- the law on propaganda and the files and homosexuality. -- the law on up again and pedophiles and homosexuality. ofimplement this he said legislation on these of this big international event when they ofw it will attract a lot negative attention and press, you know what, the legislation in my view is really not addressed to the international community. putin doesn't really care friendly what the international community things about this. also, he will defend it in comparative terms. look, legislation is quite liberal when you compare it with most of the rest of the world i'm etc., etc. it is aimed at a domestic audience.
let me say a quick word finally about the terrorists. threat is very real. regardless of what is true or andtrue about this video etc. a ibragimova, the terrorist attacks in vogo that.d attest to talking about establishing a separate islamic state in the caucuses, that is not really the ideology that motivates these people at this point. motivated by ae global jihadist ideology, comments by al qaeda and others in the world. this is what motivated the tsarnaev brothers in boston who
were also from the northern caucasus. he may have been a chechen but helist 30 years ago, is is a global jihadist ideology. this is what you will see in his -- it goes back to july 13, threatening the games and with other subgroups kind of affiliated loosely with the emirates, this loose network. jputin --l that, putin has a lot riding on the games. sochi is the holy grail for a separatist, jihadist group to go after. so no way, we have the ultimate showdown. it.n has a lot riding on this is a very juicy target.
this is sort of an american vernacular high noon at the ok corral. in russian terms, it is [indiscernible] you know, who is going to get whom? in spanish terms, it is mano a mano. it is richard sherman versus michael crabtree last sunday. who is going to prevail? the question though, and this is where i leave it to juan who these groupsabout and individuals, is one of operational and -- operational give abilities. -- operational capabilities. you don't necessarily have to hit sochi to spoil the games. ons is my concern when iris -- us is my concern in my lgograde to the vo bombings.
finally just a word about imarov . is he dead? i'm skeptical about that. reports have been many in the past. one would think in particular that, if you were taken out by the russian authorities, they would want to show the video of his dead body to bring greater sense of calm about the games themselves. , you know, whether he is dead or not, i'm not sure how much that actually would make a difference. in that i don't and think -- i don't think that umarov as much as capacity 10 years ago. the network is so loose itself that may be the absence of his leadership would lead -- with the mothers, ok, -- would leave
claim, ok, competing to this possibility for carrying out the act, which would gather all the attention. but let's all pray that that doesn't happen. thank you very much. for any difficult questions, my colleague jeff man cough will address them. will addressff them. d.c. schools are closed. maryland schools are closed. her children, when they are switching back and forth from spongebob this morning, will learn to curse in russian. so that's great. >> it is a real pleasure to be here. great to be here. art of the reason you get great attendance is csis has great expertise. what i wanted to address more
specifically the terrorist threats and give you some perspective. in particular from my vantage wind when we word about security olympic games since 9/11. whether they are in the united states or in london or athens or sochi, they become a principal concern for policymakers around the world because the olympic becomes such a target-rich environment for terrorist groups, including those have designed notches globally but designs not just globally but perhaps locally and regionally. the terrorist groups led by the caucuses emirates but not solely asianeir affiliates and affiliates have the clear intent
to try to disrupt the sochi olympics or at least to try to embarrass the russians, in particular vladimir putin. the intent has been declared. past summer has been very clear about the desire to have major attacks on the olympics or at least major disruptions. significantly, in july, he lifted the punitive ban on the attack on civilians, which in many ways opens up the target set on terrorist groups and civilian sites. and they clearly have a desire to engage in these attacks. as seen through their video postings, blogs and communications. the intent is clear and it would have been obvious even absent there opened up a ration. but the open declaration has made it very clear for authorities. capability.ve the
we have seen that in three sinces in volgograd september. we have seen that in past sinces directed by umarov 2009. the high-speed attack the twin moscow and st. petersburg. the airport and other attacks that have rebated. what is interesting and important is the caucuses emirates and their various groups ann arbor -- and demonstrated multiple modalities in their attack record. that is to say they can use a variety of means to attack, not just a variety of targets to focus on. bombersve used suicide to include the now famed lack windows. they have used teams of operatives. they have used assault teams. nes, have vectored pla metros and hospital sites. so the modalities and capability
sort of match year. they have a target-rich environment and they have demonstrated the ability to organize different types of attacks based on the opportunities available to them. that's why the reports of a singular black widow getting into sochi becomes concerning. in part because you have the potential that she is a singular actor intended to disrupt. but it also could be that she is part of a broader series of suicide bombers who been -- who have been dispatched to attack different sites. no doubt, the russians are following reports of not just a singular actor, but also multiple threats and individuals that they are concerned with. olympics, as we all know, centerstage. the world media will be trained on the olympics. the activities, the social activities around it. in addition, you have the proximity. rather brazen on the part of putin to lace the olympics so
close to the caucuses and to who the terrorist actors are used to operating in this environment the opportunity to plan attacks, not just in sochi, but in the immediate environment here in -- environment. and as andy riley said, -- as don'tightfully said, you have to get into the rings of sochi to declare terrorist attacks. the only need to create a sense of terrorist -- a sense of terror to create a sense of instability. if you sawesay that a successful attack significant enough, even in the far abroad from sochi, you would begin to see debates in delegation circles as to whether or not to withdraw athletes and stop it is
a patient in the olympics. and that would be disastrous for the success of the olympics. a final point in terms of why this threat is so unique at this time and i think it has gone relatively unreported, but i think it is critically important as an accelerant to the threat. that is the fact, as andy said, we are talking about a movement, a set of actors who view themselves as part of a global jihad movement. this in many ways is born out of the session conflict in the 1990s and early 2000's. at these groups have been populated by global jihad he actors, many of whom have have interacted with the leadership of the caucuses emirates, many of whom have gone on to fight, even now like in places in syria. i think it is critically important to keep in mind that the russians have kept an open and active role supporting assad
, which has brought russia back into the center as a far enemy for the global jihad he movement. and you began to see that narrative layout in some of the .errorist discourse i think that becomes important as an accelerant. insia is not just an actor the insurgency or five, but also a global actor in the context of the globe jihadi narrative. and syria is a real accelerant to that in key terms and ideological terms. you start to hear more and more about this from u.s. lawmakers and the security officials to they are three hold -- sacred officials. they are threefold. this is a real threat here. one are not just imagining
off threats that need to be chased down as often as they use has had to do. , threat that exposes athletes sponsors, u.s. citizens who will attend the event. two, you always have the question of event security. a very goodsed question about how secure is the rings of security around the sochi venues and sites. but how well are they secure secure? you can secure the venue, but can you secure well enough where the athletes and sponsors are staying? the transportation in and out? the raw security question emerges -- the raw security question murder is very important questions -- the raw veryity questions merge important questions.
you start to hear, including from chairman rogers, concerns cooperation from the russians. as i was mentioning to jill before, we started the remarks, usually when you have in the olympics, most countries very prideful wanting to secure the olympics, manage it themselves, to succeed for national pride and other reasons. for the u.s. offering support in a variety of ways. most countries don't except of the support initially because they can do it themselves. the dayou get closer to of the event, most countries begin to accept more and more the assistance because the reality of the daunting task of and the the olympics threat to athletes and sponsors becomes more real. that isn't happening in the russian context. the reverse is happening. the russians have grown more and more concerned over the threat
and are concerned over the perception of insecurity and therefore have not wanted to allow the united states and other security services in on the ground to assist. asan olympics like london, you can imagine, u.s. work very closely with british officials to create very cohesive command centers, respond plans, etc. that, in my estimation, is not happening in the context of sochi and that is very concerning. that is why you're hearing u.s. officials speak openly about those concerns. in addition, that's why you see reports today in the press about contingency plans the u.s. is making for potential worst-case scenario. transport aircraft, positioning enabled resources -- positioning naval resources offshore. in the worst-case scenario, if, for example, you had wounded athletes are citizens you need
to get them out. so you are going to see a lot more than that. the u.s. is try to vector and take the fact that we don't have on the ground cooperation and resources as we have in the past. for the russian and for the international community, any olympics is an international event despite the fact that it has been so personalized by putin and the russians. but the russians have to not only secure the sites as they're trying to do with physical security and intelligence and vetting of individuals, but they will want to disrupt as much as possible any terrorist activity abroad. this is why you have seen the reports of the death of umarov. it's an attempt to demonstrate that the russians are trying to do something to disrupt these activities. with agree with andy that, respect to the individual, it
matters much less as to whether or not he isve now with respect to the security of the old picks because all the terrorists groups who want to attack the sochi olympics will try to do so. they obviously need to secure the site and they need to worry about the perception of security. i think this is key because, again, you could have a relatively minor terrorist attack during the opening ceremony and the general environs and he begins to affect the sense of security for the olympics. in many ways, the terrorists begin to win that perception. a quick note, we often forget that it is squarely in the minds of security officials, you have not just the winter olympics in february, but you have the paralympics in march. so you have two sets of events that are critical internationally. toy require the russians engage in security, not just in
the month of february, but february through march. and i would dare say that the terrorists probably would prefer to us tack -- prefer to attack the sochi olympics in february could attack the olympics in march, they would view that as successful. these are real threats in real concerns for the russians, the u.s., and others who have olympians at the site. like tothat, we would open it up to your questions. questions, please. jil. >> thank you. i'd like to follow up on that u.s. side of it. dot does the united states -- to your knowledge, what is the state of play in terms of any type of cooperation in
potentially coming in and getting americans out of their? -- out of there? it are people who are competing or officials. if what does the u.s. do they do not have permission on the ground? how do they work that out in advance? you are mentioning that. >> yes. >> what is the next up for the united states? what is happening right now? >> in the olympics, you would have state department nomadic security officials, fbi, and other u.s. security officials who are cleared into the various venues or cleared into a command center or integrated into the on the ground security. i am no longer in government so i don't know what the status of that is. but i would dare say, given the public commons we have seen, that the u.s. government probably is not getting a lot of fromances for individuals the state department, from the fbi and others to be on the
ground at particular sites. that is different from security for individual teams and such. i would venture to say that we are doing the best of what we can on the ground. and what you've seen and have started to see publicly is contingency planning, which would be led by the state department, to try to determine what happens in the worst-case scenario. that is why you have seen reports of movement of u.s. military assets and personnel in this regard. so you would have the state department leading that planning, trying to determine how to best get citizens in and out in case of an emergency. and you would hopefully have forleared plans, clearances ingress and egress in the case of an attack in russia. but i would assume that the russians will want to control any of that. any security service in any country will want to have full
capability and control over what happens after an attack or a worst-case scenario. u.s.'s likely the case the doesn't have preclearance to move choppers in or assets in in the event of an emergency. that will probably have to happen as events unfold. >> this gentleman right here. if you could identify yourself come of that would be great. >> tell us a bit about what you an civil war.e syri there are reportedly groups fighting. there?y being killed i they being lumped with other
jihadist groups from other countries? that is a significant situation around the olympics. foreignnk the syrian fighter problem, in particular the flow of caucasus-based fighters in and out of syria amplifies the concern. is, again, thes ideological and narrative dimensions of what this does to animate the threat. but also populates sort of the environment with other actors who are trained, tested, and perhaps willing to attack. you can mind that the syrian conflict has now attracted more foreign fighters than we saw in and more thanict what we saw during the afghan mujahedin days and this is a very serious threat. you have seen a lot of a lot of reporting. very concerned about the flow of
fighters in and out of syria. one thing i would say is, concerned that officials should have is that the survival rate appears to be much higher in the syrian foreign fighter context. in the past, foreign fighters would flow in but they would not flow out. that is not necessarily the case havein syrian where you foreign fighters already starting to flow back. and what that means for russian services being able to monitor who is moving in and out of syria, i don't know, but certainly something that should be concerned about. foreignts about fighters from the north caucuses in syria itself. are actually there is impossible to say. but there are many there. this is one really big reason, and i think it has been
underestimated in the two plus years of her why putin has held his position on syria as he has. when he looks at who are the most effective fighters in syria , he sees the same kinds of --ividuals in groups sometimes literally the same individuals in groups -- that he has been dealing with in the north caucuses or that he and his central asian colleagues were dealing with back in the late-19 90s. in particular coming out of afghanistan. that is in particular why this is an issue that is deeply personal for him. and there is some -- i think, if recededan conflict had and foreign fighters were leaving syria, i think there's no doubt in my mind that that that increase the danger
those from the north caucuses or others who are not from the north caucuses would return there and increase the threat there. a friend of mine was a month or two ago at the airport in istanbul transferring. he heard russian spoken by people who clearly looked like you imagined a foreign fighter in syria to look like and it was rather unnerving since he himself at the time was transiting into -- not the northern caucuses, but the south caucasus. >> bill douglas. curious -- a lot of people don't know [indiscernible] counterterrorism or handling something of this magnitude. can
you all speak about their large-ities of handling scale events like this, whether they have had experience handling large events like this before? [laughter] >> well, putin, in his press conference just the other day, noted that, no, russia has not had the experience of securing an event of the magnitude of the sochi own picks. -- the sochi olympics. so the answer is no. you would have to go back to the moscow olympics in 1980. for an international event of this magnitude, which "russians clip quote -- "russians" had to
deal with. course, that is after having invaded afghanistan, which, of course, led to the essentially the creation of the muhajir dean -- of the mujahedin and much of the problems we have today. so the answer is no. can -- juan can speak to this more effectively. we never know the number of successes in preventing terrorist attacks. we only know about the failures by simply the fact that we saw significant failures in at the endhree times of last year, one in october and two december. -- two in december.
the daily bombings and problems that there are in the north caucuses, it's not the frequency that we are seeing in iraq right now. we listening -- we're listening to the radio and there are 25 car bombings a day, approximately. so magnitude, for sure, is a no. the capacity of the fsb is very, very hard to say. 's pointack to juan earlier, you know, the fact that the russians have been reluctant to embrace support from the united states, i think partly out of reasons intelligence operation is a very, very delicate matter in the best of times. pretty effective intelligence cooperation with the russians after 9/11.
i think at that time the russians were providing us more high-quality operational intelligence than we were able to provide them. thewe know that relationship and the level of trust between the two countries has deteriorated significantly since then. and that is a problem for sure. of --en there is the sort the nature of the russian psychology -- it's not just the russian psychology, but maybe more so we can do this on our own and we don't need your help. , this is suchutin a source but because we did not recognize, in his view, soon enough -- and i think he has a legitimate effect out this -- that the nature of the threat, even in the mid-1990s, in the first chechen war, when it was mostly a movement of national
liberation, there was a significant foreign element there. fighters, also sources of financing, and training for them. that factor was much more significant in the second chechen war. it really rankles him deeply, deeply that this was not adequately recognized. this is a harping on the double standards. some of thentuates chip on the shoulder, so to speak, about this for him. the state department did a very smart thing a few years ago in umaris onputting dok the list of terrorist threat individuals. some would say in russia that is too late. too little and too late.
finally, we have to look at what happened with the tsarnaev brothers. that there was inadequate communication between u.s. and russian intelligence services, tracking and following the elder, and when brother had gone to doug us down stan, which is really now the heart of the islamic threat region in the north caucuses for six or seven months. how attract -- how effectively were they tracking him? we don't know. and not knowing leads to increasing -- >> [indiscernible]
>> my suspicion is that it is both. >> i would just add two things on this topic area you have heard a lot of discussion about this in the russian press recently, in terms of the capacity of security services. they are essentially structured it from a from the way that security services in the west are structured. their main goal is regime security rather than public security, let's say. with a high-, profile, very politically significant even like the olympics, those two things are connected. but nevertheless, the goal of -- security state that putin security state that putin provides over and from which he came, pressures coming from outside rather than toward securing the public in general. challenges of the that apparatus faces is trying to pivot to do more of a public
security role because of the locals -- because of the political role. emphasize here, and this is something we haven't talked about, but i think it is very important and a lot of context related to the olympics is corruption. , it incussion in russia the lead up to the games, is hassed on this, money that been misappropriated, misplaced, gone into dodgy contacts -- dodgy contracts and offshore bank accounts. by all accounts, these will be the most extensive olympic games ever, upwards of $50 billion. as much of a third of that may have been embezzled or stolen. what does all this have to do with security? operationally, security services can be supremely effective. but they are only in the macro sense as effective as their we
guess link. in a lot of cases, the weakest link is corruption. if you think about some of the successful attacks that have been carried out in russia over the last decade or so, one that really-- that is striking, i guess, is when two female chechen suicide bombers blow up a russian aircraft in essentially, what women bribedthese their way through security checkpoints. they bribed the guards at the airport to let them onto the plane even though they hadn't gone through the proper procedures. they weren't searched. and then they detonated suicide bombs when they were on board. system can be set up in a way that is designed to focus on these kinds of threats.
,ut it only takes one person one corrupt guard to look the other way in exchange for a bribe of one kind or another to have the entire thing, part and for a successful -- entire thing come part and for successful attack to come about. of -- that is a very important point. just know that one of the planes that was targeted in the 2004 tec was headed to sochi. -- 2004 attack was headed to sochi. security services are ruthless and effective when they want to be. if you look at the history of u.s. designations of individuals , terrorists from the caucuses region or otherwise, most of those individuals and up and -- and up dead -- most of those individuals end up dead because the russians kill them.
they are ruthless. and i think they will be challenged here. >> my question is to anybody who takes it to -- takes it. took responsibility for volgo grad. connection in your opinion? thank you. >> part of this is building the perception of security. one'sve to modulate reaction to anything that terrorist groups in decay.
but you have to take it seriously. one of the concerns that russian and u.s. officials have had for a long time is the ability of groups in the caucuses to get , whether iton wmds is nuclear components. that has been a source of great concern for a number of years. is aact that syria cauldron of conflict and you have weapons available to the actors there, that certainly heightens the concern. but i have not seen anything in the open source reporting or otherwise to suggest you have a caravan of chemical weapons moving to sochi for attack. but is the kind that -- but it's the kind of thing you had to take mary searcy and something the u.s. authorities are looking at in terms of threat that are -- threat vectors. >> that's an excellent question.
it was very striking to me in the diametrically opposed responses of u.s. and russian officials to the august 21st brutal chemical weapons attack in syria. been --est one that had that has been perpetrated by a long shot. lot.zzled me a it, tried tobout think of what can be a plausible actuallyw, case where the two sides are not fundamentally disagreeing so much. and the plausible case i suppose the -- youtually that the russian response
the assad forces had no incentive to use chemical weapons because they knew that was the only contingency which would awesomely bring upon an american military strike, you know, there is a logic to that for sure. but there is a corollary logic to that as well. somehow couldion gain control of some chemical and make ityria appear as though the assad forces had carried out that strike, there would be a huge incentive for them to do that. because, of course, that would bring on not only the american military strike, but american and other international support for them in their fight against
the assad government. knowing at the time that, before our agreement on the chemical weapons initiative, the diffusion of chemical weapons sites around syria, there are so seemed that,t just , again, would only take one person or one group to get a one site amongst 40 or even more than 40 that existed for people to have access to the weapons. we have to take this very, very seriously. trends -- the the transnational nature of the ,roups in sryia, -- in syria
this is the one moment where the u.s.-russia relationship started to turn around and subsequently in our talks about the iranian nuclear weapons program. whether it is true or not what it clearly has, to be taken at the utmost seriousness. good morning. roxanna scott from "usa today." could to they you elaborate on the hoax part of this. and what are your expectations for protests for human rights, anti-gay legislation, the kind of thing, particularly in the zone they set up outside the park, far from the park?
>> in my opening remarks i was a bit too flippant maybe. when i look at the picture, when i look at the video, it does make you think that this could be a total hoax, you know, someone just having fun. ktvu news inrn at seven cisco who fed the report to the helicopter -- in san francisco who fed the report to the help -- to the teleprompter the names of the pilots. someone trying to be funny, but not really funny. i would expect to see more reports like this for the reasons that juan elaborated, simply to enhance or increase
the sense of insecurity around the games. for that to really be effective, there has to be some terrorist attack to accompany it. but i would expect to see more of this in the weeks ahead. i am very,say that very relieved, at least at this point, we haven't seen any more attacks of the magnitude we lgograd that we saw three weeks ago. because a could be the beginning of a series of attacks that could take place on a weekly basis or even more frequently that would effectively destroy the games, whether or not sochi was attacked itself.
on the lgbt issue, you know, of course, putin tried to sort of deflectthat -- sort of that in his press conference. although in doing so, it kind of enraged many in the lgbt community more and their ,upporters more with the way he look, no one is going to get thrown in jail. this legislation is more liberal than many other places. and really we are only talking about how began to -- about propaganda about this that is being disseminated. but essentially, lead our children alone. the effect he was trying to
the problemdiffuse was not a very effective way, shall we say. all i can say is i hope the russian authorities have learned enough from the response they've seen to the issue over the last few months that they will handle it with the utmost care and do their best not to inflame the issue in responding to any kind demonstration or or statements that take place. after following russia for so long, sometimes i feel like you can never underestimate the capacity to cut their no nose of to spite their face.
maybe jeff has something more insightful to say on this. on this question of threats that may or may not actually be real. i think this gets back to the point that andy made toward the beginning. these are such an important ,olitical project for putin specifically, and for the russian regime, more broadly. ,hey are trying to get across in the olympics, in order to advance the narrative, about how russia has advanced on its feet. it has been a volatile area for the last two decades. insurgents,t that or whatever you want to call them, succeed in changing that area, succeed in getting the discussion not to be that russia
is back on its feet, that putin brought stability, but rather there is an instability and insecurity. that is what they are focusing on. they are undercutting be message that the government is trying to get across, regardless of whether they are trying to get -- whether there is a successful attack. if there is a successful attack, that changes the narrative even more. there is this low-level chatter that takes the attention of everybody's notice initiates who are looking at the olympics. it is to bolster the prestige of the regime. i would like to add something to that. -- putin hasere is been very successful, in the eyes of many in his party. olympec