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harm would extend far beyond just the loss of personal data. it could grind our national and areour economies to a halt. we must have a comprehensive new agenda for cyber security that protects every level of our society. to accomplish this goal, we must punish the skills of american engineers and scholars from silicon valley to fort meade in order to secure our networks and we must empower our national guard with a new mission. a mission of protecting our cyber networks here in the homeland on a state-by-state level. i have seen this firsthand as doug mentioned, a group charged by act of congress to work with the secretary of defense and the secretary of homeland security. i advocated for a new national initiative to recruit and to
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equip and to train up cyber units in every state. these are highly paid skills, highly sought after in the private sector and therefore very difficult to compete with in the public sector. the quickest and most cost effective way i believe to stand up to this needed capacity is in the citizen-soldier context of every state's national guard. furthermore, national guard cyber units are best suited under our constitution for the home admission of collaborating with public and private sector to protect vital networks. for security. it is a national security imperative. it requires a long-term commitment against the cause -- to advance the cause.
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all of us should take some pride in that. inspired are the -- the u.s. and partnership with the global community has cut extreme poverty and child deaths in half over the last 25 years. that is one of the greatest measurable leaps ever achieved in austerity and health. and yet still, or than one billion people in asia and africa and here in our own have us there in america live on less than a dollar $.29. -- $1.29. is it any surprise that in liberia, a country with just one medicals cool and meager hospitals the eyes that more than 10,000 people are infected with ebola? is it any surprise that in hunt doris, a country with the highest mortal rate and most
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brutal drug trafficking that thousands of people have fled for their lives here to our hemisphere? our leadership and collaboration with other nations is essential. to be successful, we must involve more americans from all walks of life. scientists and students and entrepreneurs and security experts and business executives and urban planners, we must better integrate our development and military teams and troubled hotspots and ensuring that we are tailoring our assistance to get things done within the local culture and local place. inject our values in emerging markets. particularly u.s. id and the state department.
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end extreme poverty and preventable child and maternal deathss within the next -- deaths within the next 15 years. by protecting the dignity of human lives in fragile states where not only building the next generation of political and economic leaders, but we're also reducing the threat of being drawn into more costly conflicts in the decades to come. as the former commander of the u.s. central command put it lovely, "if you don't fund the state department fully, and i need to buy more ammunition." development, defense diplomacy they all stand together as equal an essential part to our national security, or at least they should. there also critical to reducing
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threats and what might be the most volatile and dangerous area of the world today in the middle east. over the last several years, i have had the opportunity to talk with scores of future arctic americans -- patriotic americans. to protect our allies and prevent a legion of fowar and to provide humanitarian assistance. to prevent terrorist safe heavens and to prevent nuclear liberation and indeed a nuclear -- from nuclear proliferation and indeed a nuclear armed iran. i believe it is the best way to
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avoid even greater conflict in the region and the best to stop widespread nuclear proliferation across the middle east. it was for this purpose the u.s. forged a partnership, including russia and china, to have the strongest sense of sanctions iran has ever faced. those sanctions brought iran to the negotiating table. it cuts off pathways to a weapon and its ability to sprint to a bomb. congress would be wise to support it. on the other hand if iran is found to be cheating, its leaders must know we stand ready to institute the full array of sanctions that decimated their economy. no threat better illustrate the unintended consequences of a mindless rush to war and a lack
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of understanding in the emergin -- emergence of isis. it will require an integrated approach. an approach focused on military power and political solutions. the invasion of iraq along with the disbandment of the iraqi army and military will be remembered as one of the most tragic deceitful, and costly blunders in u.s. history. we are still paying the price of a world pursued under hall's pretenses. in the words of "dr. king -- in the words of dr. king -- we must be mindful that american boots on the ground can be
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counterproductive to our desired come. we would be successful integrating isis if the number of militants taken off the battlefield is exceeded by the number of new recruits replacing them. but we must also ensure that our partners have what they need to contain and wear down and defeat isis. in partnership with other nations in the region and around the world we must counter isis propaganda and use our own communication tools more effectively. you must do more to amplify credible and local voices in the region to reveal isis for what it is. the murders thunks who have perverted the name -- the murderous thugs who have perverted the name of islam.
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addressing threats like isis will require a new relationship and better intelligence. this is true in every other theater of engagement as well. there is no substitute for human relationships and the work of patriotic americans in foreign service and national security agencies. to succeed in the world of rapid change, we must adapt our national security institution to better anticipate these vast emerging threats. recognize there's a real message to be learned from that tragedy in benghazi. namely we need to know in advance is likely to take power once a dictator is toppled and not after. twitter and facebook are no such a to defer personal relationships and human
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intelligence. we must recruit and retain a new generation of talented american diplomats and foreign service officers. we must give them the tools they need to identify and engage with a new generation of leaders from different walks of life and often very hostile environments where we elect to start ties, where we lack relationships. that was the work, wasn't it? that was what ambassador chris stevens was about. he gave his life reaching out to those emerging from the rubble of qaddafi's leadership. in remembering him, his grieving father said, "he died doing what he loved most. working to build ridges of understanding and mutual respect between the people of the u.s. and the people of the middle east. chris was successful as he embodied the traits that have always endeared america to the world.
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commitment to democratic birds oppose any respect for others regardless of race, religion, or culture." the greatest power we possess as americans is just that. it is the power of -- we project that power around the world through our own example of the inclusive society and inclusive economy that we build here at home. the challenges we face today to rebuild the american dream to craft a new policy of engagement and collaboration to refocus our nationals purity strategies, these challenges. the process are all reinforcing of one another.
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i isn't money -- our economy isn't money. it is, all of our people. only with a stronger more inclusive economy can we maintain our security. and more inclusive american economy. pursue a more effective economy for the cause that we share in lead of a rising middle class free from oppression and fear. and thinking deep the about america's role in the world, i find myself drawing inspiration from the travel world that my parents and their generation tamed and the planet that they saved on the brink of nuclear annihilation. my parents were born during the great depression. they are part of that rate
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generation of american who is on to win the set and world where my submissions -- two in the second world war. my dad flew missions. they raise their children, the six of us. we must remember their success. our strength abroad depends on our strength at home. no fighter jet or true italian will keep us as safe as a vibrant economy strong democracy, and a growing and racing middle-class. by restoring an american economy that works for all of us again we will make ourselves and more prosperous and secure nation. give our children a future with
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more opportunity rather than less. we will make our planet a healthier, were peaceful and just place for all of humanity. these are the ambitions of the truly great people. this is why i'm turning your president of the u.s. thank you all very much. [applause] thank you. >> the governor will take questions. he will take a few questions.
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we have microphones in the audience. raise your hand if you have a question. this time is not exclusively for questions if you have answers. [laughter] we would like to hear your answers. yes, sir. >> a few years back i was in baltimore resident. you served as my governor. thank you for your service. we -- you talked earlier about having defense and diplomacy and equal levels. one thing that is unequal is -- is that something you would consider if you were president? governor o'malley: yes. that might qualify as an answer. [laughter] governor o'malley: yeah. i think that good will be lead
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to sustainable development. thank you for that. good one. i thought it would come to the truman project. [laughter] anyone else? >> i'm also a resident of maryland. you brought up a new reform national security act to replace the one from 1947. what would you change? governor o'malley: i think that we had not called the great
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minds of our country together to this task since 1947 really in a holistic way. threats that we face are different threats. i think that it is time. we shouldn't presuppose the outcome of that understanding and search for a better way to anticipate threats. a better way to maybe take agencies like the defense threat reduction agency or the centers for disease control and try to reimagine how we might create a more robust function when it comes looking over the horizon so we don't find ourselves outside of the turning radiance of these events. i'm thinking of the pandemic outbreak of ebola in africa.
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from the lessons i have learned as an executive, 15 years of exec at of service -- executive service and as a governor, it is important you be able to develop the capacity to anticipate threats before they rise to the level of crises. i don't think we are doing a good job of that. it seems the options left to us our military options before we focus on the things that need to be done. i also see the need for new alliances in places around the world. i mentioned some of them. the arctic. the south china sea. other areas of pandemic. i believe the national security act of 1947 lasted a good long time. threats are different today. we should get our heads around
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cyber. we are sometimes struggling to take -- catch up. >> thanks for being here governor. looking out at the future, what are the things you have done as governor -- one of the things are done as governor that is intriguing -- speaking of ways we could be talking about externalities to judge progress -- gdp would have indicated it is incredibly short term but don't take into account environmental and social factors that really matter to people's lives. this is worth something scaling
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up or at least starting a conversation about. >> absolutely. thank you for noticing. [laughter] sometimes you do these things and you think it is cutting edge and your whole cabinet get into it and he spent a lot of time and in terms of public opinion sometimes things nobody saw -- we were the first date to a top -- state to adopt an index. we looked at the quality of life. the health of the air we breathe. the rivers and streams. the time we spent in traffic when we could be with our families are doing for the things. we put all of these together. it is our hope that over time that genuine progress index will guide the decisions we make on our budget and the capital
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decisions we make. they're very important causes by the different types of sustainable development and not taking over the lad of the -- land of the chesapeake bay. the transit centers so you are able to improve the quality of life and reduce traffic congestion. the genuine progress index on the national scale would also be important. as i have talked to people who do a lot of this work, it seems to me that human nature is the same the world over. people want to be able to raise their kids and have them lived through adulthood and feed their. they need clean water. there are certain building blocks for that quality of life. as people see even in conflict
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prone parts of the world they're able to give their kids a better way forward. sacrifice. make that progress possible. it's a barrel be a tool at the national and international level -- it could very well be a tool at the national and international level. thank you for asking that. over here. the whole row. [laughter] >> you mentioned that it is neither an ally or true adversary. you also focused a bit on cyber security. russia has emerged as one of the greatest threats. could you comment on the it about your view on -- a little bit about your view on russia? governor o'malley: sure.
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we have all been reading in the newspaper and watching events with the russian expansion in ukraine. at the same time in that you run -- iran nuclear negotiations, russia was one of those states that was part of that effort. they were involved pretty deeply over a year ago in events in syria. no doubt there remain so. what i was underscoring is in some of these things and china as well, we confront china and other places as in partying -- partnering to scale of solutions in this world. collaboration with china could be the salvation of the planet. where russia is concerned, i'm also very aware of their
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capacity were cyber is concerned. a little known fact, maryland has had a national guard mission to estonia for some 20 years or more for nato membership. estonia met with their head of state and also two of the nato center events for cyber security. it is one of the few countries that has suffered a full-scale cyber attack and they shut down. that didn't stop them from using to knowledge he. instead they their defenses -- from using technology. instead they upped their defenses. get this -- they actually vote online. that is how secure they have been able to make their country. this is not the cold war anymore
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where we were facing opponents that were totally adversarial in every round. different interests and different alliances. we have to be adaptable and flexible, even as we are firm and understanding our commitments to allies and put in place as we have now with allies that sanctions that show russia that they have a choice to make. they could either harm the economy by harming nations around them, or they could respect the international norms and have a better quality of life and economic life for their people. >> 3:00. i had a question. the country that separates its
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warriors from the college -- from the cowards -- governor o'malley: to send a? >> -- who said that? >> i don't know, but i will take credit if no one else does. [laughter] >> it reminded me of an experience. i was reading classified from armored officer to a civil authorities officer. as army often does, without training. boom. you go there and figure it out on the ground. what i saw was frustrating. it is putting the military and a role of nation building without the integration without what you identified so clearly and accurately. have you anticipate being able to tie together the efforts of organizations in organizations
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is a very functional way to make sure that you do have a circumstance where you have military members that are wise in the ways of diplomacy and development and yet people that understand the fence and diplomacy and seeing that -- understand defense and diplomacy . how do you envision the ability to break dance -- break that down and cymer cross work within those agencies to make sure when we go in, we go in ballistic we do not as a coalition of cylinders of excellence, but it into operating group of the same mission from the u.s.? governor o'malley: terrific question. thanks for what you have done for all of us. the problem you described is not limited to the military a sustainable development. it is part of human nature.
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everybody likes a common platform as long as they can maintain their own. that is the way that human nature is. the pendulum has been swinging to specialization and other more cylinders of excellence, silos of excellence. in your day, governors used to be considered rate governors based on how many different departments they could break down into. separate station and specialization. now you see not only in today's topic, that you see in this as we look to raise up wellness rather than disease as the focus. you see this sauce so in education. you see this if you go on -- you see this in education. you see this on campuses.
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more more we're realizing it is not this the civilization or separation, but integration that allows us to be effect is as a team. on a football team, there is only so much an individual to do. i believe that the way to do this is to recognize that problem. i think we have to start in an intentional way. training. drilling. studying. working with each other long before we are displayed to a battlefield. i think we have the ability to do that better than any other. i think it will take conscious effort. this is the problem. we could solve that by creating collaborative team. teams trained together, deployed together, and together, work
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together. that is what i would envision. someone over here. there are still some over here. >> hello. thank you for being here. governor o'malley: human intelligence. i swallowed the second word. we do have to be better humans wednesday. [laughter] >> they do started telling us about it for people who want to join the effort. what would you do about that? how would you make that effort to make it safer practical, and pragmatic a short opm could not do it -- and pragmatic? opm could not do it. governor o'malley: before who
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took over? what's that? >> [inaudible] governor o'malley: we are rushing to catch up to this era of cyber threats and and personal information. in our state because of the location of nsa, we had a will trained unit that understood cyber security. we have a red team and blue team that worked through our larger departments. the personnel records and personal information. i could see every state doing that. i think the u.s. needs to do that as well. there are collaborative effort.
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it seems that we need to do a much better job of bringing in the experts in i.t. at private sector and private contractor work. in order to do better job of this -- one of the big challenges we have faced is a procurement of i.t. services. no offense. [laughter] no offense. are not terribly good at it. it is the capacity we need a task force to rapidly stack up. this sort of low bit thing that doesn't service very well. when it comes to i take, we need to look at cyber security much more as a service and a cure meant. -- van a document -- than a
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procurement. standards. responsiveness. things of that nature. rather than cross your fingers and hope it doesn't happen. we've got some people in the center. >> one more question. governor o'malley: who has the best question? [laughter] governor o'malley: there is a woman in the center who looks like she -- her eyes tell me she has a good question. [laughter] >> maryland resident. thank you for your support for civilians. we appreciate it. i wanted to ask you many of the challenges you mentioned whether it is that ebola crisis or the economy and countering violent
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extremism, all of these challenges where women could play a vital role in addressing them i'm wondering if in your vision of national security, there is a way we could elevate the role in encountering those challenges and how you might do that. governor o'malley: again to the question about integration. when of the reasons we are such an innovative economy, it is because of this notion he sometimes take for granted as americans with the full inclusion and participation exist better as a nation. it also allows us to develop human solutions to human problems because of the perspectives that are welcomed around that table. my father was a trial lawyer. he say, i never once lost a case because a jury made up of men and women made a decision.
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he would say he lost a brother reasons -- lost them for other reasons. [laughter] i do believe in military and sustainable development that the perspectives offered by teams of men and women is critically important. particularly when it came to public safety. in my same counterpart -- counterintuitive to some, but not to others. how do we do that? how do we lift up the role of women? look up to leaders. i think you get organizations to change and transform and do the best when you lift up the leaders and celebrate the success of women and men.
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they are doing incredibly difficult things and doing them with a tremendous amount of innovation, creativity, and excellence. that is how you do it. we do by lifting up examples of the many strong and effective and creative women out there. let me say in closing that i really appreciate what so many of you had done throughout our country. you give me a tremendous amount of hope from where our country is heading. as i travel around the nation and i talked to people under 40, i rarely ever me anyone who want to -- meet anyone who want to deny climate change is real for discriminating against a couples. that tells me the country is moving to a more compassionate and generous and connected
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place. drawing code and on amazon -- hope and optimism. that word foreign will become antique. there's nothing for and in our world. -- foreign in our world. we have a tremendous responsibility and power in this direction of growth and life on this planet. thank you for leading the way. thanks a lot. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
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>> wow. that was a wonderful discussion of so many of the problems and issues that the world and country are facing this group is going to be talking about that at this conference. thank you, governor o'malley for sharing your thoughts with us. you have really set the table for a very positive tone for this conference. i know good things will come out of it. i think about the issues you have raised and told us we should be thinking about, we will be thinking and talking about for both of the two days that come.
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as a token of our appreciation we would like to present you with this inaugural metal -- medal. i speak for many nsa and look forward to following your presidential campaign with interest. i hope you continue to be a champion for liberal internationalism that tonight's this community -- unites this community. maybe come see two great universities, stanford and the university of california. share your views with them. you will be formally receive. thank you for being with us today. [applause] governor o'malley: thank you. it is beautiful. [applause]
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>> next, louisiana governor and republican presidential candidate be gentle at a politics and eggs breakfast in new hampshire. after that, president obama's eulogy in south carolina. as the june 30 deadline for new era negotiations with iran approaches, c-span takes a look at iran, its government, culture , and views of the u.s. a look at iran tomorrow night at 8:00 eastern on c-span. >> this summer book tv will cover festivals from around the country. in the middle of july, we go to the harlem book fair. the flagship african-american
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literary event with panel discussions. in september, we are live at the nation's capital for the national book festival. those are just a few of the events on c-span 2 book tv. >> thursday, louisiana governor bobby jindal was at a politics and eggs breakfast in new hampshire. he to questions from the audience on trade immigration and income inequality. this is about 40 minutes. [applause] governor jindal: thank you very much. i would like to thank the institute of politics for being our host. this is indeed my very first
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announcing as candidate. i brought along my better half. it is hard to marry me. mrs. jindal. [applause] we have known each other since high school. i like to describe her as my high school sweetheart. you could ask for the real story. before i begin, i would like to tell you how glamorous it is to run for president. i will if you repeat the curtain -- a peek behind the curtain. yesterday in louisiana, where we lived before he moved to the governor mansion, we had 12 under people who saw me -- 1200 people who saw me there. families flew in from across the country for the announcement. it was live on television. i was amazed by the folks in the
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room and the intensity and response. as soon as i was done, i did an interview on one of the national news networks. literally had to go to the airport. had enough time to get on a plane and fly through charlotte to get to boston. where's posted wake up this morning at the crack of dawn and go and do seven different national tv interviews before coming here. can you imagine a world where we have three children, 13, 11, and 8. there are on life tv and they will behave? everything goes great. we get to the airport. if anyone has flown recently, i think you know what i'm about to say. of course there is a flight delay. no worries. we will make the connection. a little delay becomes a longer delay.
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then they canceled the flight. then it got on canceled. i didn't real -- it got uncance led. i didn't realize they could do that. [laughter] we get to charlotte. our bags are not in charlotte. you could either -- to morning tv and get on a plane and miss politics and eggs -- no. we made a commitment. walmart closes admin night in case -- closes after midnight. we are pushing a shopping cart. they made an announcement looking for shaving cream and toothpastes. as we are leaving, you know those greeters at walmart? you are on tv.
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what are you doing shopping at walmart? [laughter] if you see some selfies, those aren't fake. i'm thrilled to be here. thank you for your hospitality. we intend to spend a lot of time here. the weather's this nice, we will spend a lot of time here. incredibly beautiful day. my brother spent four years of his life going to college here as well. i have enjoyed being in the state before it not only as governor, but also for family visits did i want to talk to you -- family visits. i want to talk to you about what this campaign is about. i want to leave time for questions. i want to hear from you. i wanted to do's myself. i will tell you -- introduce myself.
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over 40 years ago, my parents came halfway across the world in search of the american dream. here is the amazing thing to me. to this day is still gives me goosebumps to think about. it is the first time i have ever gotten on a plane before. there was no internet back then. i didn't even know anybody that had been to baton rouge. the idea of freedom and opportunity. they came so my mom can be a student at lsu. they came so my dad could get a. -- job. my dad did not come her to be dependent on a government program. it came to work. he looked in the yellow pages and called after called looking
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for work. he had an accident -- accent. i don't know how many weeks or days or how many times people laughed at him. but a railroad guy took a chance and said you could work -- begin work on monday morning. do not do this when you interview for your first job after school. my dad tells him -- he hasn't even started -- that's great. i don't have a car. i don't have a job's license. you will need to pick me up on your way to work monday morning. who tells his boss that? the guy was so amazed with my dad's enthusiasm that he did it. six month later, i was born.
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i love the next part of this story. there was no obamacare. my parents insurance did not cover me. i love what my dad did next. my dad went to the doc and shook hands. i will send you a check every month as i pay for this delivery. i know how that would work today. i asked my dad, how do pay for a baby on layaway? if you skip a payment, do they check the eb back? -- do they take the baby back? he said you were such a bad baby, that was not an option. my parents came in search of the american dream. today president obama and hillary clinton worked on changing american dream into a european nightmare. they are trying to turn it into
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socialism. dependence. this is an important time for our country. the next election is the most in horton. i never heard any of them say -- -- the next election is the most important. we have a fundamental choice to make. there's a very generous introduction. the reality is what i was elected governor, my state was reeling from hurricane katrina. there were still trying to get back on their feet. one of the worst public school systems in the entire country. indeed, they wondered if they could come back or should come back and rebuild. i got elect it. we got elected to be making big changes. we did it. we cut our budget by 26%.
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we got 30,000 less bureaucrats. the best credit ratings in a decade. top 10 state for private-sector job creation. seven years in a row, more people moving into louisiana rather than leaving it. statewide school choice is to making a child hollow that dollars -- instead of making a child to follow that dollars. didn't raise taxes. when you do that, you see results. more people working than at a time before in our state. highest ever per capita state. when he did, people complain.
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-- when you do that, people complain. what we did in louisiana we will do in d.c. we showed we don't measure prosperity by the success of our government did we measure prosperity by how people are doing in the real world. that is a choice we face in d.c. you cannot have both. you and i measure success by how real families in new hampshire and louisiana are doing and across the country of ours. we have got a lot running. there's a difference between talking and doing. have given great speeches. things would be great right now in america. one term senator -- we need
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sound who will do something and not just talk about it. every republican will get appearance a day will cut the size of government. we're not just talking. we did it in our state. protect the unborn. fight isis. repeal obama care. we'll get it done. i'm running for president to do something. it is time we replace talk with action. i served in washington, d.c. and congress. i was in the senate for two terms. here the difference. in washington, they say certain things and do another. it is not hard. if you want to be -- one him to write nice things about you, it is not that hard.
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you to go along to get along. you meet the smart folks. you cannot really do anything about it. we all say we are going to repeal obama care, but you cannot really do anything about. prior lake, the president is declaring victory today. the supreme court has ruled that one part of the law is not unconstitutional. they said it was not a constitutional question mark that is a success? i don't agree with the court is nevermind the fact that obamacare decreases our freedom. nevermind it forces us under the threat of law to buy insurance we may not want. nevermind that it creates a new apartment program for we cannot afford the ones where we already
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-- it will saddle our children and grandchildren more and more. i think it is time for conservatives to make a case of how to replace obamacare? i'm the only candidate who details how should do that. the court had spoken today, i think the people of america are ready to speak. we could do with the president said he wanted. he said he was opposed to the individual mandate. you could talk about securing the border, but you cannot do it. i think the american people are sick and tired of the candidate
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saying one thing and doing another. i think voters are saying we don't want them to clear the field. you see an unprecedented assault on our freedoms. they think they know what kind of health insurance you should buy. one of the most egregious assault is he assault on our first amendment rights. those of us were pro-life say we need our religious elites changed? -- beliefs changed? that is between me and god.
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we separate the fact that people could live their lives according to their conscience -- we believe in the fact that people should be able to live their lives according to their conscience. unfortunately, that is unreasonable now? a religious liberty rights fundamental while freedom of speech and association -- even hillary clinton could understand this. the u.s. of america did not create religious liberty. religious liberty created the united states of america. there is a reason we are here today. too often the left has forgotten the history. one of the things that concerns me is the effort by hillary and president obama to divide us. there are trying to divide us by
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race gender, younger free, income. -- younger free, income. i'm tired of -- geography income. i'm tired of this. i. one of to raise their -- if my parents wanted to raise their child as indian, they would have stayed in indian bit of there's no more african-american or any other kind of american. we are all americans. i will think it makes sense to allow people to come into our country and use our freedom to undermine those freedoms for others. for me, it is just reasonable to say if you want to counter country, come legally. learn english. learn and share our values. work. roll up your sleeves. go to work.
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make our country stronger. we turn our attention back to the campaign in this election. you'll hear some -- jeb bush said we have got to be willing to lose the primary in order to win the general election. i couldn't disagree with that more. he is basically saying -- we have got to make the media like us. the fine who we are and what we believe. -- define who arewe are and what we believe. why don't we embrace our ideas and interests? what are we tell the american people what we stand for? help every child do better in america.
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the army can grow the private sector in the economy. every zip code will have a test to get a great education. we will leave debt for our children and grandchildren. why not provide a real alternative for the american people? stop hiding who we are in what we believe. stop believing if we could just get the media to like us we will somehow be successful. it is time breast to stand for our principles and stand for our ideas -- it is time for us to stand for our pencils and stand for our ideas. repeal and replace obamacare -- stand for our principles and stand for our ideas. repeal and replace obamacare. secondly, we will also restore our nation's defenses.
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the unafraid to identify the enemy as islamic terrorism. governor jindal: the president has declared war on the crusaders for medieval christianity. i have made a deal with the president to protect my own kids from microwave popcorn and oreos , he will protect us from islamic terrorists. the third thing i would do is grow our private sector economy. fourth, we will secure or borders. they all talk about that, but they never actually do it. i want to close with this observation. containment is not a strategy for the united states. general patton famously said that americans like to win every time. that is the strategy we have to
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adopt going forward. i am asking people to join a cause. to join the movement. this is bigger than a campaign. america is the light to the world. people aspire to be free everywhere, it is time we started to act like it. i know our best days are ahead of us but it is not inevitable. we must not be the first generation to mortgage our children's future. to me, that is what this election is about. it is nothing less than the future of america. it is nothing less than restoring the american dream. so that our children can say my mom, my dad, my grandparents fought hard so i could live in the greatest country in the history of the world. thank you all very, very much.
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[applause] >> we have a few minutes for questions. if you have a question, identify yourself. >> you mentioned obamacare. you have been unbending in your critique of obama care, that it should be repealed. in light of the ruling today and upholding the voucher funding mechanism, how realistic is it to go forward to address that issue? governor jindal: i think it is realistic for it people don't want obamacare. they won election in purple, red, amply stays campaigning on this. it has not done what they said it was going to do. forget keeping your doctor -- he
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told us he was going to cut our premiums and he did not do that. i put forward a straightforward plan. the first principle, let's make it affordable. let's give everybody a standard tax deduction so they can buy it on their own. second, let's bring voluntary purchasing tools. third, let's create the opportunity to buy insurance across state lines. fourth, let's expand access to wellness and savings. we must crack down on frivolous lawsuits. we can absolutely drive down the cost of health care. analysis shows that we can reduce premiums on average by $5,000 for a family. let's help those that are vulnerable. there are people that because of pre-existing conditions cannot afford health care. my plan would give $10 billion a year to the states for high risk
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individuals. third, let's give affordability and choice to consumers. we have specific ideas about premiums, as well. i think that senator obama was right when he told senator clinton, the issue is not an mandate, the issue is affordability. his plan does not fix that, doesn't address that. here is where i think republicans have made a mistake. before the court ruling, they should have voted on alternatives. it is great they voted dozens of times to repeal obama care, but we have to show americans what we are for. we can't simply just be against things. obama's policies will be on the ballot but secretary clinton -- we have to say that this is what we are for. the court has spoken, now it is
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time for the people to speak. >> thank you for being with us. i would like to ask you about social security. not for my generation -- i came through world war ii so i want tell you my age, but i am on the down slope. i am talking about social security for future generations. they pay for social security. i was questioned the other day will it be there for me? how would you strengthen social security? governor jindal: that is a great
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question, thank you. if we don't do anything, everybody knows a dirty secret that social security is not sustainable. they all pretend like it's not true that you look at the liabilities -- they make $18 trillion in debt look small in comparison. we want this to be a campaign of ideas, not just her's analogies. we will put a detailed ideas on social security. we have to take steps to make sure that we keep the promise that seniors and others who have been paying in continues to be there. i have young children, i wanted to be there for them, as well. we will put a detailed plans. i spent a year of my life as the director of a bipartisan commission on the future of medicare.
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we had a bipartisan majority that recommended premium support. we can do that in a way that helps taxpayers and beneficiaries. we need to look at social security to protect those who have come to depend on the program and at the same time, protects it for future generations. doing nothing is not an option. >> i am with a campaign called first budget. you spoke about young people and as a young person, you mentioned the $18 trillion in debt. many of us understand that if this debt grows, we will be the people who have to show to it. what are your plans to reduce the deficit? how would you do it with a bipartisan approach? governor jindal: that is a great
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question. the folks will pay this -- the folks who will pay this will be the future generation. we have to shrink the size of government. we put out specific ideas and specific departments -- for example, the federal department of education spends billions of dollars on teacher quality programs that have not been shown to improve teacher quality. we have to get rid of that wasteful spending. same thing is true with title i dollars. i think epa can be reduced in terms of trying to micromanage the economy -- we will have to deal with social security and medicare and entitlement programs. we need to make fundamental changes to the way washington, d.c. works. we have had republican and democratic rid majorities
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run at the debt. we have specific structural changes. the only way he will balance the budget is a combination of cutting government and growing the private sector. right now we have this 2% growth rate. that cannot become normal. in terms of the structural changes, i would like to see a balanced budget amendment in the constitution, a super majority vote before raised taxes, a supermajority vote before they can grow the federal government spending faster than the private sector, i would like to see in louisiana -- i would like to see -- in louisiana, we pay our legislators a per diem --i would
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like to pay members of congress a per diem for every day they stay outside washington dc the problem is we have a permanent governing ruling class who thinks the rules do not apply to them. if you live in a bubble, it appears fine. seven out of 10 of the fastest growing counties are in the washington d.c. area. i campaigned for a lot of republican candidates. i am glad the republicans took over. i don't think having one party control doesn't mean we will address problems. you ask about cross party lines -- we had a democratic majority in the house and senate in baton
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rouge. we had no majority until the second term. we did in income tax cut, we cut our budget working with democrats. i think it takes leadership. one of the mistakes obama has made is that he elects people but doesn't work with people. it takes the american people saying enough is enough, saying that this is important, this election really isn't about who can tell the best jokes, it is about what opportunities are we leaving for our children. >> welcome to new england. you represent a seaport state. the importance of our ports and waterways are important to the new england economy. the current administration has talked a lot about the importance of funding for our ports. in reality, has only dedicated about half of the funding that
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comes in which are paid for by shippers for harbor maintenance. congress has expressed a desire to dedicate 100% of that funding that is paid for by shippers for its intended purpose. would you support a similar pathway? governor jindal: absolutely. you may have seen all the flooding you saw in texas and oklahoma and you saw the horrific scene south of boston and all the damage -- south of austin. that water comes through northwest louisiana. we have historic flooding. part of the reason, the national weather forecast cap getting revised overnight.
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they had not dredged. the last time they had a major flood, projections were based on faulty data. we saw the loss of property and what that did. we see the economic damage. the mississippi is routinely not dredged to appropriate levels as a result. in some instances, we are competing with mexico and other countries for work that we should be doing in our country and can -- they can't get into those channels. i am very well aware and absolutely support and there is actually of ill in congress that was sponsored by louisiana's delegation -- that is one of those solutions and folks understand the federal government charges a user fee for the people that use the ports and infrastructure and that fee is supposed to pay for dredging and instead, that money
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sits there to mask deficits, so it is used it to help claim they are closer to balance than they really are. they use it to pretend the deficit is not as big as it really is. no wonder people get cynical. no wonder they say, when a minute, we paid a fee, it should at least be used for the purposes you told us. i will tell you one other example. in louisiana, they dredge the mississippi river, they call them dredge spoils, and a dump it on the continental shelf. then, the same engineers turn around and goes and minds elsewhere to help rebuild the coast. elysee and asked -- louisiana asked, why are you paying more
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money to get new silt? wouldn't it be better to build a pipeline and rebuild -- as a taxpayer, it seems like he would make sense. the answer they came back with was yes, it would save money, but it wasn't cost-effective. they looked at it in isolation. forgetting the fact that the next day, the same agency was going to buy silt to rebuild the coast so the state put up the money in some cases to show them -- we call it beneficial dredging. they are not spending the money they should be on ports and infrastructure. when they spend it they are not spending it in the most effective way. so absolutely, we would support efforts to dedicate those dollars to where they are intended to be which is to maintain our infrastructure which is good for our economy and you were talking about manufacturing jobs earlier, good for those as well.
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>> there are two economic issues that congress has been debating. the trade pacific partnership and the bank that is about to expire. your thoughts on if we should be in a trade negotiating position. do you like the way it was developed? xm bank is about to close down and there were some people of the new england council very concerned about the bank losing their clout. governor jindal: on the tpp. i am opposed to giving this president fast-track ability. i think trade can be good for our country. i think tpp could be important. you have south korea, taiwan
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japan, traditional allies looking for american leadership. you have india and vietnam looking for american leadership. they will not wait forever. this president said he was going to pave it to asia -- pivot to asia. it is a great opportunity for our country if done right. the reason i oppose it for this particular president is i don't trust him. he has violated the constitution before, he has chosen which laws he wanted to enforce, i don't like the deal he's is negotiating with iran. that is not an argument against trade or. i am for fast track authority, it is particular to this president. i and not saying abandon tbp, i
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am saying don't give this president fast-track authority. if it is that good, why not let us see it? in terms of exports and imports i am for the winding down of this tank. i think the government picking winners and losers is a mistake. people argued that the bank is self-sustaining and profitable. the reality is, if there is money to be made, the great thing about america is that we are not shy about folks wanted to make money in this country. you have to argue, no, it is about helping countries to make sure they don't become hostile to america. if that is true, it should be part of the foreign aid budget -- this idea that the governments can take and choose which businesses to help to me we need to get away from that what we really need to do is not have the highest corporate tax rate in a developed world purely
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want companies to compete internationally. that means both democrats and republicans have to be willing to give up their special treatments and say old sides are going to come to the table and have an honest tax reform debate and the last time we did that was the 1980's under reagan. it was a bipartisan initiative and that is the kind of tax reform that can help our companies save hundreds of billions of dollars overseas that could be invested here. we have companies making investments overseas and that of hiring americans. i talked a little bit about louisiana. i talked about the 90,000 jobs. our competition is not new hampshire or texas, our competition is other countries. a south african company spending money here instead of canada. the list goes on and on and on.
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we cannot compete. every one of those companies looked at epa regulations and skilled workers and we have to win the competition. they came because we were able to win the competition. i will close with this. it was a pure act of faith that probably parents here. they had not visited. my mom was pregnant. there was not a plan b. they had confidence that this was a place where you could have freedom. i am that optimistic about our future. we have to make the right choices. reagan reminded us that every generation has to renew those visible's of freedom. -- those principles of freedom. i am asking people to join our campaign to learn more, go to bobbyjindal.com.
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thank you for your hospitality. >> well done, governor. announcer: next, president obama's eulogy at the reverend pinckney funeral. live at 7:00, your calls and comments on washington journal. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] announcer: on washington journal, we will talk with jess bravin and take your calls. live at 7:00 on c-span. announcer: while congress is not for the july 4 break, book tv takes over prime time, featuring a different subject each night. monday, the war on terror. wednesday, the digital age.
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friday books on science and technology. watch our special primetime edition starting monday, june 29. tune in every weekend for the latest in nonfiction books. announcer: president obama and attended the funeral service today for reverend pinckney. with him were michelle obama joe biden, and congressional leaders. reverend pinckney was the senior pastor of the emmanuel ame church in charleston, one of the ninth of them's and last wii's shooting. we will show the president's eulogy and the entire service. [applause]
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president obama: giving our praise and honor to god. the bible calls us to hope. to persevere. and have faith.
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they were still living by faith when they died. [applause] they did not receive the things promised, they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance. admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth. we are here today to remember a man of god who lived by faith. a man who believed in things. a man who believed their where better days ahead. off in the distance. a man of service who persevered knowing full well he would not
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receive all those things he was promised because he believed his efforts would deliver a better life to those who followed. to jennifer, his beloved wife his beautiful, wonderful daughters, to the mother emmanuel family, the people of charlson charleston, the people of south carolina. i cannot claim to have the good fortune to know reverend pinckney well, but i did have the pleasure of knowing him. and meeting him here in south carolina back when we were both a little bit younger. back when i did not have visible
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gray hair. [laughter] the first thing i noticed was his graciousness. his smile, his reassuring baritone, his deceptive sense of humor, all qualities that helped him where so effortlessly a heavy burden of expectation. when clementa pinckney entered a room, it was like the future arrived. that even from the young age, folks knew he was special. anointed. he was the progeny of a long line of the faithful. a family of preachers who spread conn'sgod's word.
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he did not forsake their teacher. he was in the pulpit by 13, pastor by 18, public servant by 23. he did not exhibit the cockiness of youth nor insecurities. instead, he said an example worthy of his position. wise beyond his years. in his speech, his conduct, in his love faith, and purity. as a senator, he represents the low country. a place that has long been one of the most neglected in
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america. a place so wracked by poverty and inadequate schools. a place for children can so go hungry. and the sick can go without treatment. a place that needed somebody like him. [applause] his position in the minority party meant the odds of winning more resources for his constituents were often low. his calls for greater equity were too often unheeded. the votes he cast or sometimes lonely. but he never gave up. he stayed true to his convictions.
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he would not grow discouraged after a full day at the capital. he would climb into his car and head for the church to draw sustenance from his family. from his ministry. from the community that loved and needed him. there, he would fortify his faith and imagine what might be. reverend pinckney embodied a politics that was neither mean nor small. he conducted himself quietly and kindly and diligently. he encouraged progress not by pushing his ideas along, but by seeking out your ideas. partnering with you to make things happen.
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he was full of empathy. able to walk in somebody else's shoes and see through their eyes. no wonder one of his colleagues remembered him as the most gentle of the 46 of us. the best of the 46 of us. clem was often asked why he chose to be a pastor and a public servant. but the person who asked probably didn't know the history of the ame church. [applause] as our brothers and sisters in the ame church know, we don't make those distinctions. our calling clem once said, is
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not within the walls of the congregation, but the life and community in which our congregation resides. [applause] he embodied the idea that christian faith demands deeds not just words. that the sweet hour of prayer last the whole week long. that faith is more to the just individual salvation. it is about collective salvation. to feed the hungry, close the naked, and house the homeless. is not just a call for isolated charity, but the imperative of a just society. what a good man.
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sometimes, i think that's the best thing to hope for when you are eulogized. after all the words recitations, resumes are read, to just say somebody was a good man. [applause] you don't have to be of high station to be a good man. preacher by 13, pastor by 18, public servant by 23. what a life clementa pinckney lived. what an example he set. what a model for his faith.
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and then to lose him at 41 slain in his sanctuary with eight wonderful members of his flock each at different stages of life but bounded together by a common commitment to god. susie jackson, ethel lance, the middleton dr. danielle simmons myra thompson. good people. decent people.
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god fearing people. [applause] people so full of life and so full of kindness, people who ran the race, persevered, people of great faith. to the families of the fallen, the nation shares in your grief. our pain cuts that much deeper because it happened in a church. the church is and always has been the center of african-american life. [applause]
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a place to call our own in a two-often hostile world, a sanctuary from hardships. over the course of centuries, black churches served as places were slaves could worship in safety. praise houses where they could gather in shout, hallelujah. rest stops for the weary among the underground railroad, bunkers for the foot soldiers of the civil rights movement. they have been and continue to be community centers where we organize for jobs and justice. places of scholarship and networking, places were children are loved and fed and kept out
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of harms way. and told that they are beautiful and smart and taught that they matter. that is what happens in churches. [applause] that is what the black church means. our beating hearts. the place where our dignity as a people is not violated. there is no better example of this tradition than mother emmanuel. a church built by blacks seeking liberty, burned to the ground because it's founders soft to and slavery, only -- sought two and slavery, only to rise from the ashes.
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when there were laws banning black church gatherings, services happened here anyway in defiance of unjust laws. when there was a righteous movement to dismantle jim crow, dr. martin luther king jr. preached from its pulpit and marches began from its steps. a sacred place, this church. not just for blacks, not just for christians, for every american who cares about the steady expansion of human rights and human dignity in this country, a foundation stone for liberty and justice for all, that is what the church meant. [applause]
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we do not know whether the killer of reverend pinckney and eight others knew all of this history. but he surely sensed the meaning of his violent act. it was an act that true on a long history of bonds and arson and shots fired at churches. not random, but as a means of control. a way to terrorize. [applause]
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an act that he imagined would incite fear and recrimination violence, and suspicion. an act that he presumed would deepen the fishers that trace -- the figguressures. oh but god works in mysterious ways. [applause] god has different ideas. he didn't know he was being used by god.
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blinded by hatred, the alleged killer could not see the grace surrounding reverend pinckney and that bible study group. the light of love that shown as they opened the church doors and invited a stranger to join in their prayer circle. the alleged killer could have never anticipated the way the families of the fallen would respond when they saw him in court in the midst of unspeakable grief. he could not imagine that. [applause] the alleged killer could not imagine how the city of charleston, i do good and wise leadership of mayor riley, how
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the state of south carolina, how the united states of america would respond not merely with her devotion at his evil act. and more importantly, with thoughtful introspection self-examination that we so rarely see in public life. blinded by hatred, he failed to comprehend what reverend pinckney so well understood. the power of god's grace. this whole week, i have been reflecting on this idea of grace.
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the grace of the families who lost loved ones, the grace that reverend pinckney would preach about in his sermons, the grace described in one of my favorite hymnals, the one we all know. amazing grace. [applause] how sweet the sound. that saved a wretch like me. i once was lost, but now i'm found. was blind, but now i see. [applause]
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according to the christian tradition grace is not earned. grace is not merited. it is not something we deserve. rather grace is the free and benevolent favor of god. as manifested in the salvation of sinners. grace. as a nation out of this terrible tragedy, god has visited grace upon us, for he has allowed us to see where we have been blind.
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he has given us the chance where we have been lost to find our best selves. we may not have earned it, this grace, with our rank or and complacency and shortsightedness and fear of each other, but we got it all the same. he gave it to us anyway. he has once were given us grace. but it is up to us now to make the most of it. to receive it with gratitude and to prove ourselves worthy of this gift. for too long, we were blind to the pain that confederate flag stirred into many of our citizens. [applause]
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it is true, a flag did not cause these murders, that is people from all walks of life now acknowledge, including governor haley -- his recent eloquence on the subject is worthy of praise. as we all have to acknowledge the flag has always represented more than just ancestral pride. [applause]
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fourr many, that flag was a reminder of systemic oppression and racial subjugation. we see that now. removing the flag from the state capital would not be an act of political correctness, it would not be an insult to the valor of confederate soldiers, it would simply be an acknowledgment that the cause for which they fought the cause of slavery, was lost. [applause]
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the imposition of jim crow after the civil war, the resistance to civil rights for all people, was wrong. it would be one step in an honest accounting of america's history, a modest but meaningful -- it would be the expression of the amazing changes that have transformed this state and country for the better. because of the work of so many people, people of all races striving to form a more perfect union. by taking done that flag, we
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express god's grace. [applause] but i don't think god wants us to stop there. for too long, we have been blind to the way passed in justices continue to shape the present. perhaps we see that now. perhaps this tragedy causes us to ask the tough questions about how we can permit so many of our children to languish in poverty. or attend dilapidated schools are growing up without prospects for a job or a career. perhaps it causes us to examine what we are doing to cause our children to hate.
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perhaps it softens hearts toward those lost young men tends and tens of thousands caught up in the criminal justice system, and beat us to make sure that that system is unaffected with bias that we ande embrace changes so that the trust between law enforcement and community makes us more safe and secure. maybe we be allies the way racial bias can infect us even when we don't realize it, so that regarding against not just racial slurs, we are guarding against the sudden impulse to call johnny back for a job
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interview, but not jamal. [applause] we searched our hearts when we consider loss to make it harder for some of our fellow citizens to vote. by recognizing our common humanity, by treating every child is important, regardless of the color of their skin or the station into which they were born and to do what is necessary to make opportunity real for every american. by doing that, we express god's grace.
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[applause] for too long, for too long we have been blind to the unique mayhem that gun violence inflicts upon this nation. sporadically, our eyes are open. when eight of our brothers and sisters are cut down in a church basement, 12 in a movie theater 26 in an elementary school, but
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i hope we also see the 30 precious lives cut short by gun violence in this country every single day. the survivors crippled, the children traumatized and fearful every day as they walk to school , the husband who will never feel his wife's warm touch. the entire communities whose grief overflows every time they have to watch what happened to them happen in some other place. the vast majority of americans the majority of gun owners wanted to do something about this. we see that now. and i am committed that by
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acknowledging the pain and loss of others, even as we respect the traditions, ways of life that make up his beloved country, by making the moral choice to change, we express god's grace. [applause] we don't earn grace. we are all sinners, we don't deserve it. but god gives it to us anyway. and we choose how to receive it. it is our decision how to honor it. none of us can or should expect a transformation in race relations overnight.
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every time something like this happens, somebody says we have to have a conversation about race. we talk a lot about race. there is no shortcut. we don't need ormore talk. none of us should believe that a handful of gun safety measures will prevent every tragedy. it will not. people of good will will continue to take the merits of various policies, as our democracy requires -- it is a big raucous place america is rid there are good people on both sides of these debates. whatever solutions we find won
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't necessarily be complete. but it would be a betrayal of everything reverend pinckney said for, i believe, if we allowed ourselves to slip into a comfortable silence again. [applause] once the eulogies have been delivered, once the tv cameras move on to go back to business as usual, that is what we so often do. to avoid uncomfortable truths affects our society. symbolic just as without following up with the heartbreak of more lasting change, that is how we lose our way again. it would be a reputation of the forgiveness expressed by those
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families if we slipped into old habits. whereby those who disagree with us are not merely wrong, but that. where we shout instead of listen. where we barricade ourselves behind preconceived notions or well-practiced cynicism. reverend pinckney once said, across the south we have a deep appreciation of history. we haven't always had a deep appreciation of each other's history. [applause] what is true in the south is true for america. clem understood that justice grows out of recognition. of ourselves in each other.
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my liberty depends on you being free, too. that history can't be a sword to justify injustice, or shield against progress. it must be a manual for how to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past, away toward a better world. he knew that the path of grace involves an open mind. but more importantly, an open heart. that is what i felt this week. an open heart. that, more than any particular policy or analysis is what is
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called upon right now, i think. what a friend of mine, marilyn robinson, calls that reservoir of goodness beyond and of another kind, that we are able to do each other in the ordinary -- that reservoir of goodness. if we can find that grace anything is possible. if we can tap that grace everything can change. amazing grace, amazing grace.
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♪ amazing grace, how sweet the sound? that saved a wretch like me? i once was lost, but now i'm found. was blind, but now i see. ♪
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[applause] clementa pinckney, found that grace. susie jackson found that grace. sanders found that grace. daniel simmons, sr. found that grace. taranda singleton found that grace. myra thompson found that grace. through the example of their lives, they have passed it on to us. may we find ourselves worthy of that precious and it's what every gift -- extraordinary gift. may grace now leave them home

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