tv House Democrats Say President Trump is Diving the Country CSPAN January 31, 2017 7:31pm-7:59pm EST
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that's what's really fun about it. we weave it all together. >> for our complete american history tv schedule go to cspan.org. >> earlier today, house democratic leaders held a briefing with reporters at the capitol. they discussed president trump's recent executive order on refugees and immigrants. and labeled it a muslim ban. his is half an hour. mr. crowley: we were told during the campaign not to take president bannon, i'm sorry, president trump, seriously or literally. but he's follow through on most
extreme campaign promises he made. quite frankly, we have to take him seriously and literally at everything he's doing. we know that president trump and his cronies in the white house, steve bannon and steve miller, want to force their extreme views on the american people. what is really more chill something that more than 80 congressional republican members have come out in support of the muslim ban and we're calling it what it is. a muslim ban. that dwarfs the number of g.o.p. lawmakers in both the house and the senate who have had the courage to stand up for american values and come out against president trump's ban. there are only 24 who have done so. quite frankly, that's not enough. the vast majority of our republican colleagues have stayed silent. they've ran away. and she's shameful. let's be clear. i've said this before. immigrants are the best, the
brightest, and the bravest coming to our nation. they are brave. president trump is a coward. president trump, steve bannon and his cronies are cowards. and anyone who doesn't stand up against this ban joins the ranks of cowards. you'll hear from my colleague on how this combecktive order creates a grave security issue for diplomats and for service members. the issue is just on a muslim ban. trump has issued a series of executive orders. we also have another congressman we hope to have join us, and if not, i'll speak to the issue of american safety. how we must be -- continue to have a haven for people looking to come here to make a better way of life for themselves. i was in new york over the weekend and attended a rally at a park, as well as j.f.k.
airport. i spoke to the customs and border folks about individuals who were detained at j.f.k. the stories were shameful. individuals were handcuffed. during that time period. there was a 5-year-old child detained. at dulles airport. a journalist in chicago. in new york, students and refugees were detained. along with an iraqi immigrant who had risked his life in the cause of helping american soldiers and american interests in iraq. that is shameful for that individual to have been detained at j.f.k. for a moment, let alone a day and a half. so with that, let me recognize the gentlelady from california and the vice chair of the democratic caucus, linda sanchez. ms. sanchez: good morning, everyone, and thank you, joe. well, as you might imagine, for donald trump, the honeymoon did
not last long. donald trump has essentially stepped into office and shredded the constitution. and i searched mightily to try to characterize what the first 10 days of his president i have have -- presidency have been like and the only words that come to mind are dumpster fire. the whole world saw a second weekend of protests all across the united states with millions of americans taking to the streets because they are concerned and angry with the direction in which he's taking our country. from a 2,000-mile border wall to his reckless muslim ban that was not properly vetted by the department of state, defense or justice, the president's actions have sparked global outrage and concern. that's why yesterday house democrats fought back, led by congresswoman lofgren of california. we introduced legislation to overturn the president's unconstitutional muslim ban. now we are looking for courageous republicans to stand
up and speak out against these hateful, anti-refugee, anti-immigrant executive orders. i implore my republican colleagues to join with democrats and stop these dangerous and dictatorial missives that donald trump keeps signing. now is not the time for us to stay silent and hope for the best. if we fail to change course, history is not going to be kind to those who stood by and did nothing and allowed this to go on. the world is watching us. and waiting for us to act. democrats are ready to push back against unconstitutional executive orders and courageous , people e sali yates are standing up to this governance by bullying. so i urge my republican colleagues to stand with us and push back against a power grab by a man who doesn't really have
an understanding of how our immigration laws work or our government agencies work. with that i will turn back over to joe crowley. mr. crowley: the cubs won the world series and biff did become president. we know he's a bully and most bullies are cowards. to shed more light on how these executive orders make us less secure, the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. moulton: i just want to be very clear that donald trump's executive orders, his muslim ban, absolutely make our country less safe. they make our troops less safe overseas and they make us less safe at home. there are two fundamental reasons why. the first is that our terrorist enemies will use this propaganda to further their idea that america is at war with the muslim faith. isis has already used the executive order as propaganda to
recruit more terrorists, and organizations across the world, terrorist organizations, will use it to insight attack against americans, both at home and abroad. the second reason why this is so dangerous is that it makes it much more difficult for us to work with our critical muslim allies overseas. those translators, those intelligence sources that are absolutely essential to our fight against terrorism. the people that i had to work with on the ground, that i trusted with my life, and in turn they trusted me with their lives, and now we're abandoning them. you have to be smart and tough in the fight against terror. when i served in the first marine division, our division motto was, no better friend, no worse enemy. the united states marines. that's about being smart and tough. everybody knows what the second part means. you don't want to be the enemy of the united states marines. but the part that comes first is that if you are willing to put
your life on the line, not just for your country, but for our i -- but for ours, we'll be your best friend. we will protect you from the terrorists who are our common enemies. donald trump's national security policy and his executive order are dumb and weak. dumb because it alienates the very allies that we need in the fight against terror, and weak because it shows that he's putting partisan politics ahead of our national security. with that i'll turn it back to joe crowley. mr. crowley: hoping to have congressman here to talk about the executive order dealing with sanctuary cities. seth just mentioned the fact dealing executive order with the ban on muslims in these seven countries send as message to our allies -- sends message to our allies that we're not your partners. the same thing happened -- ok, thank you. the same thing happened with the issuance of the executive order
on sanctuary cities. here to talk about that is the congressman. >> thank you. and good morning to everyone. my name is ruben. i represent the fourth congressional district of nevada. this basically covers north las vegas and one of the most diverse areas in the state of nevada. mr. kihuen: i am the proud son of a housekeeper and former farm wore or -- worker. my family came to the united states when i was 8 years old and pursuit of the american dream. i was once undocumented in this country. my family came here with a visa, we overstayed our visa. like many other immigrant families who come here to this country. and eventually, thanks to a republican president, ronald reagan, i was able to become a citizen and today i'm a sitting member of congress. it goes to show you that this country is great. that this country is willing to give an opportunity to an
immigrant family that is willing to work hard for it. but what we're seeing right now by president trump is a hateful, anti-immigrant, anti-muslim, anti-refugee, anti-woman, anti-gay and lesbian agenda. and i'd be more than happy to sit down and talk about a compromise immigration reform bill. that can help solve the entire problem of immigration in the country. we know part of the reason why people are coming here illegally and crossing the border is because we have a broken immigration system. so my family is the embodiment of the american dream. we are the perfect example of what can happen when you give a family an opportunity to succeed here in america. today we're here to speak up, to speak out, that we are not going to roll over. there are certain things where we can compromise on, if president trump wants to talk about job creation, about coming up with a solution to immigration reform, about the
affordable care act, i'd be more than happy to sit down with him. but there's also things that we just don't compromise on. we don't compromise on our values and our beliefs. and when you're talking about deporting 11 million people, when you're talking about building a wall that can cost up to $20 billion, and by the way, those $20 billion can put people back to work, we can invest it in our infrastructure and create jobs, a lot of people in the fourth congressional district today are still without jobs. i'd be more than happy to sit down. but there's certain things we don't compromise on. these daca students, these refugees, these immigrants, they deserve an opportunity to succeed here in america and what we're seeing right now is illegal, unconstitutional and unamerican actions by the president -- un-american actions by the president. these are some of the most un-american actions i've ever seen by an american president. we're here to say, we're not going to take it. and we're going to push back. and we're going to defend the rights of our constituents of all backgrounds. thank you, everybody. mr. crowley: let me just go a little bit deeper in terms of the issue of sanctuary cities
and what impact this will have. my city of new york, i was proud to stand last week with commissioner o'neill of the nypd. he talked, and i also talked, about what message this sends to the immigrant communities in a city that loves immigrants like we do in new york city. it's part of the fabric and the foundation of what new york city is today. it says to that immigrant population, don't cooperate with the police department. don't cooperate with them because if you do, you could be subject to deportation. that does not make new york any safer. we know that new york city -- because -- the fear that the nypd would lose federal funding if we don't -- if we don't unwind this sanctuary city provisions in new york. as someone who experienced 9/11, lost a first cousin on 9/11, i harbor no love in any way, shape or form for anyone who wishes us ill will. i recognize, though we need to have open communication with all
people in new york city, so that the criminal element within the undocumented population can also be recognized and maybe dealt with and deported from the united states. so, when you look at the fact that the president would have to cut the urban area security initiative, which i helped to put together with someone about 15 years ago after 9/11, those are specifically funds to cities like new york at high risk of a terrorist attack. new york i think gets the argest amount. i would suggest that a building on fifth avenue called trump tower, that three or four months ago was not a security risk, today is. the notion or idea that he would threaten to reduce federal funding in new york city because of its sanctuary city status
would actually diminish the ability of the nypd to do their job and keep new yorkers safe, including protecting trump tower. so with that we'll be happy to take some questions. reporter: obviously you guys disagree with the policy. but what do you think led to the policy? we've read thing about bannon, we've read things about miller. and do you think that what is really here, when they perceive this, regardless of if they handled this in a hand-fisted manner, didn't vet it properly or say, there are reasons we think we ought to do this, but when you know the background there, do you think that this is really a veiled effort or a not so veiled effort, people of color, people from other countries, regardless of whether or not they should have legal status here in any capacity? mr. crowley: i have mue own views on. this i think dismissing this as ineptitude is a mistake. i think this has been well planned out. i don't think that donald trump has the bandwidth to do this
himself. that's why i made reference, if you didn't watch cache it, to president bannon -- catch it, to president bannon. it's unprecedented. the access that he now has. i made reference to the fact that george w. bush would not let karl rove be on the n.s.a., but instead we see karl rove 15-fold more in terms of bannon having that position. and diminishing the other intelligence officers within the white house as a price to pay to have him on there. i think it's unprecedented and it's scary, to say the least. i think as well that this is a test to how far they can go, they're like judging -- they're testing waters out there to see what response they get or don't get from our republican members of congress. just how far a leash they'll let them have. unfortunately, as i mentioned earlier, over 80 members of the house republican conference have
signed on to what donald trump, including, including speaker ryan, who during the campaign said he was against the muslim ban, and he's come out in favor of what donald trump is doing. you talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth. i guess when the unexpected happens, like when donald trump gets elected president, i guess what you said before doesn't count anymore. it's a whole new world. do my colleagues have anything they want to add to that? ms. sanchez: after trump was first elected there seemed to be two school of thoughts with house democrats. reporter: one is that this guy isn't a traditional republican. maybe we can work with him on stuff. the other one, this guy, we need to resist him at every turn we can. it just -- talking to rank and file members, it seems that people are shifting more towards resistance. you have seen that and do you think that there's still any hope that you can work with him on certain policy areas? mr. crowley: who's really running the show? as i said before, four years ago
donald trump was a pro-choice liberal. oes anyone disagree with that? today, if you look at it on its face, he's a right wing nationalist radical. by what he's doing. so as i said, i don't think he has the bandwidth to do what he's doing. this is a coordinated effort behind the scenes by steve bannon and steven miller and others to do this. quite frankly. reporter: is there an opportunity for you guys to work with him or are you shifting toward, let's fight this guy at every chance we can? mr. crowley: i think it remains to be seen just what happens after hell week. and how long this will continue. it's unprecedented, in my 30 years of elected office, both the state and the federal level. i've never seen a president act
like this. or an administration act like this. to unsettle the american population in a way in which they have, understanding that some actually agree with the policies he's taken, and they're excited about what he's doing, so-called following through on his campaign promises, but clearly there is incredible unrest and the unnerving of many within america. i would suggest even in his own party, as reflected by senators mccain and graham and others and 24 republicans in the house and the senate who disagree with the ban on muslims. the anxiety level is incredibly high. in this country. unnecessarily. and changing the values of the american way. a week and a half ago we were a different country in many respects. and that's not what the american eople voted for.
ms. sanchez: i would just add as a candidate trump was all over the place with what his positions were, coming into a new administration we didn't know what to expect. and i think we have learned a very valuable lesson over the last 10 days, even those of us who had hopes that we could find some common ground, because i will tell you, democrats are invested in the success of this country above all else. so if there are positive, good policies that president trump would like to work on us with, i think there isn't a democrat who with a say no. but we are learning not to take him at his word. we are learning to watch his actions and to see what his true policies will be and what we see , we cannot sign on to. signing executive orders without
clearing them through the department of defense or justice or state to see if they're constitutional tells us he's not interested in sitting down and working cooperatively with the agencies that exist -- it's almost like it doesn't matter if -- matter if these agencies exist or not. we're watching his actions and thinking to ourselves, there's -- very little chance, i think, at this point that there's anything positive and productive that he's sincere about wanting to work with democrats on. we are very wary. again, joe said, very unsettled. we are watching in horror as they swee a man who walks in understand -- as we see a man who walks in and has no understanding of how government runs and wants to govern by missive. that's not the way our government works. our government has a legislative branch for a reason. we have independent agencies for a reason. and yet he seems to be ignoring that and just full throttle
ahead. reporter: how much do executive orders like this re-emphasize the need for article 1 powers, which have been pretty much diminished for the past decade or so? mr. crowley: i think many of us are looking for who that individual or individuals will be that will stand up for the congress right now and our role and the separation of powers. many of us are suspect as to whether or not this administration after the executive order was signed, put in place by a federal judge in new york, whether that was fully complied with and whether or not there was a disregard for that stay. only time will tell. i think the experiences were different at airports around the country. we know that individuals who had the right or the visa, green card to come to this country were denied, and were held in theirport of entry. -- in their port of entry. these are issues that need to be delved into. i'm looking for a champion.
i'm hoping that one of my colleagues on the other side in the house steps up. and says enough. i think the american people will appreciate that. in the long run. i think history will look kindly on that individual, or those individuals who stand up to this bully. >> i'll add briefly that conservative thought leader tweeted this weekend that today democrats seth moulton stands for my values, not senator mitch mcconnell. mr. moulton: bill crystal and i disagree on a lot of issues. but i know that bill crystal believes in the constitution. and that's why he said that. we both believe in the constitution. it's very clear that this administration, led by the most unpopular new president in american history, does not believe in the constitution. so when you see democrats responding over the past few days and you see millions of people taking to the streets to protest donald trump, they're
not protesting just because he was elected. they're protesting him because of things he is doing. mr. kihuen: i just got off a very competitive race where i've on the ground for the last two years listening to people all throughout and throughout nevada. if you look at my district, it including urban and rural nevada, republicans and democrats. and one thing is for sure. people want to see solutions to the problems right now that we're faced with in this country. they're hoping that both republicans and democrats can come together and put them back to work and make sure that those folks who now have health care keep their health insurance. so for me to see this type of rhetoric, and these actions by president trump, and with the republicans not having the courage to stand up to him and say, this is immoral, this is illegal, this isn't constitutional, it's very disappointing.
because that is the reason, that is part of the reason why congress has an 8% approval rating. that is why people are frustrated with the system. that's why people are frustrated with their elected officials. what we need to do is we need to put our parties aside, we have to come together. but it all begins with the leadership. the responsibility of a president is to unite the country. not to divide the country. and what we're seeing right now is president trump is dividing this country. that's why you're seeing protests in every single airport. we had almost 500 people at the las vegas airport. people want solutions to the problems that they're faced with today. we're here to try to come with sthose solutions. i'd be more than happy to sit down with the republicans, with the president, if they were to have reasonable solutions to the problems that we're facing. all we're seeing right now is just this hateful anti-immigrant, anti-refugee, an tim women, anti-gay and lesbian, anti-worker, anti-american pieces of legislation. that's very disappointing.
mr. crowley: let me follow up as well. i was here during the bush years. i think, linda, you were as well. i never would have said what i'm saying about then president bush. i didn't agree with him on a lot of things. i liked him as an individual. i got along with him fairly well. and it hurts me to speak in the way in which i am about this president. nd we're only in week two. this is going to be a long four years. but unless i see radical change i'm going to continue to speak out against what he's doing. reporter: several of you have mentioned, you've raised constitutional questions about what president trump's approach has amounted to. tonight we're going to get a supreme court nominee. how is the nature of the court going to handle this? are we going to have a heavier task load, i guess you would assert? but suppose somebody like mr. scalia? mr. crowley: this is obviously an issue the senate is going to have to deal with and our
democratic colleagues. we asked before about when can you start to get along or is there an opportunity that maybe we'll have a better opportunity to work with the president. i don't think any time soon. certainly not today. if there's any indication by the rumors of whom we hear may be offered this evening as a supreme court nominee. not knowing who that's going to be, i can't comment on them. but i suspect, i'm pretty sure i'm going to be right about this i bet the house that it would be scalia-esque type of individual. i suspect there's not much an appetite on democratic side of the aisle to supply the votes, the 60 votes, to do that. so i think president trump should discuss this with his sister a little bit more and have a person of balance and approach that will not be a scalia-s iesque. -- scalia-s remain --